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Best WM6 Rom

Sorry to be a pain, however there are lots of WM6 roms for the p3600 and i am looking for a good one. I know that they all have thier best bits but i am not sure which one to go for, i need it to be WWE
Is there somewhere where they are listed with a few notes as to any issues with each one
I have done a search and not found anything that lists them or compares them
Any help much appreciated

the reason why there are soo many is that people pref various roms because of the various programs they contain
all comes down to openions

There is no list with pro's and con's but if you read my signature you will find the wiki where most of them are listed.
You have to try a lot of them and decide by your own, and maybe later you will make some sort of list with pro's and con's
In my personal experience i've tried more than 15 different rom's
Good luck with your search...

Personally I like Mary 2.02 or PVAVIET Roms everything seem to work on these with having to tweak etc

mary 2.02 for me...well at the mo anyway
now using AX3L

I personally have tried all roms produced by all rom makers and I do not think I am going to stop trying new ones, each rom version I have tried had something different, but they all have good speed and stability, evey new rom would have something new (OS, HTC stuff, com managers,.....etc)
The strange thing is as the trinity is used all over the world and thus users are using different connections and therefore rom builders have to take into consideration all unique local connection methods -- which is impossible.
For that reason a lot of the bugs reported in many roms are not seen with many users.
To cut long story short, there is no best rom, but there is a good rom that works fine on my device where I live.
You have to find out that rom yourself. (once found; back it up on your SD and consider it your safe rom to revert back to)
Taiseer

Many thanks for the help and the replies, i will get testing the roms
Many thanks

Im using the PDAViet ROM and its SO stable and fast and it also looks great, its my personal choice, i cant remeber what ROM i installed before but within 10mins if annoyed me by hanging. So far (touch wood) this ROM has work WITHOUT fault.

My favorite by far is the one found HERE.
It is the AUS HTC Version with WM6. Works excellent in California, USA on ATT.
VERY rare to crash.
I've then added PocketCM's software, and the whole world is good...

"Bepe" the best
better than all the rest.

Mary 3.x is best for me
For me it's the latest Mary rom... stable quick not to much not to less within...

Adewidt ROM the Best ROM
"Adewidt" vers. ENG en NL/ Dutch -the best
better than all the rest.
(Maja)

This is all down to personal choice,
I have tried AX3L,mUn,Mary,PDAVIET,Karmba_a thing the only one I have not had ago at is Bepe and hes are all used as the baseroms,
Its all about the look and feel, and everyone of these works great,
people deciede which one to use of whats included in the rom and its look,
personally I like the bog standard roms and then I can choose what to add.
Personally I dont like the HTC Home screen but most people do, but I will admit as soon as a new one come out I am hooked and have a try.
In short they are all great, but I do prefer the thread that also include the cab files then use, makes it easier to have a go at cooking our own.
We are sploit for choice, I am pleased that there is no official WM6 for my device else maybe these people would stop thier great work...!!!

New Phone - best ROM

Alright everyone. Finally upgraded my phone from a hermes to a diamond. I knew basically everything about the hermes, and now I'm back to square one (almost) with the Diamond.
I've had a read through the Wiki and the forms, but I'd like to know which ROM's/radio versions out there are best for the Diamond.

Extinguishers at the ready! a popular question indeed. I use Dutty's it rocks.

I use Bepe's ROM, 1st because they are really stable, 2nd because I can manage my own language

Fallen Spartan said:
Alright everyone. Finally upgraded my phone from a hermes to a diamond. I knew basically everything about the hermes, and now I'm back to square one (almost) with the Diamond.
I've had a read through the Wiki and the forms, but I'd like to know which ROM's/radio versions out there are best for the Diamond.
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Anything based on the 1.93 roms are good. I used one of the stock roms on mine.
Generally it is considered that the .05 radio is the best, but I found the .11 gave me slightly better 3G coverage. I think there might be a .16 on the way but I dont know when that will be released.

I'm just using the latest official ROM (1.93). For once I find the official Diaond ROMS quite stable and usable. I've flashed a few ROMS such as Diamond project and Elite and find more annoyances on these ROMs than the original: things like modded splash screens I don't like and web links opening with I.E. instead of Opera.
I recommend just using the latest generic HTC ROM for now, unless you have particular cause to change, though to be fair you could just try all of them and see which you like best!
It's all good fun.

OK thread cleaned up. Stay on topic please people.
@ Reb0rn - lose the attitude, if you dont like the thread, dont post in it ....simple.

I use the TLR 3 ROM, it runs on 1.93.xxx.2 and i like it coz it keeps most of the stock features/look but with upgrades and tweaks to make it faster + its very stable - It is also one of the very few (if only) ROM's that includes the AppToDate application which allows you to update the phone over the air and hence means you don't have to flash the phone too often to get the latest stuff.
The .05 radio is the best and also makes the phone quad band... (you may also want to check out the Gsensor apps page on the 'diamond' part of the forum some cool stuff their.)

Best recent ROM

Dear All,
I'm trying to upgrade my JasJam to a more recent WM6.1 build but lots of roms are available
What rom is fastest and most stable in your openion
Thanks in advanced
H.H

1.PdaCorner v23 Final ,
2. Dvha79_ddt v25 ,
3. CRC v13 or v14
Choose the Non Real Big Storage editions to avoid Hard Resets.

read the Benchmark 'sticky' thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=419530
good luck

as always
what's good for me does not always mean good for you !!!!

I know Zocster but people are ALWAYS gonna ask.....
I like PDACorner V18 or V25. PDAViet are also good as well. Most of the roms I find are excellant but there are a few that don't seem to like my Hermes. Apps I like or setups I use render them unstable. You REALLY need to try them out and see if you like them for yourself. Asking people is great but you are not gonna get the info you need, just personal opinions that are gonna leave you where you are now.
Read whats in them and see what people say on the threads and then
try the roms out.. If there is something that causes problems it soon is made apparent so the chefs can fix it later or others offer solutions.
Cheers...

well said Zocster
"wnat is good for me is may not be good for you"
Everyone needs to find what is best for his Hermis. All the so called best ROMs are not good for my Hermis 300. I go back to naked3d or MRH 8.4 again and again after testing CRC and PDAcroner pro.

Why deprive yourself of the hours of fun and entertainment, not to mention the learning experience of de-bricking your phone several times?
Try every ROM available and see which one you like.
Or just start with the latest and work backwards - they're all good.

I think the next...
As already been told the best ROM meens the custom ROM for you. Before times I used to have a ROM with as more function as I found. But now I prefer to have with less functions for not to overload ROM. After I install the programs I need. Overmore, I save "cab" files of programs I need in memory card. In latest days I use to have Device Update cab. Install it and use it. good one.

Although I agree that it is best to try as many roms as possible, it is not the real "best" option for all. I mean, not all people are as tech capable as the others. The risk of converting your phone into junk is increasing with every flash you dare. Only recently, my sister totally bricked her imate sp5. Only reason being the frequent and according to me the "unnecessary" flashes.
Therefore, I recommend the following path for anybody who doesn't want to risk his expensive toy:
* Read the recent ROM release threads. Try to read 3 or 4 recent threads. That is usually enough.
* Don't read the whole thread. Read the first few posts by the ROM chef. They usually include the pro's and con's of the ROM. Also the known issues. Also bug fixes. That is usually all you need to know.
* Decide whether you want a naked ROM or a bloated ROM. A naked ROM is simple, clean and has a lot of storage space for your programs. But it lacks functionality that you need to install yourself. A bloated ROM comes with oodles of software that you will possibly never use. But you will also need less time after the flash to get it working. Most things will already be there.
* Check the interface. Is it the stock WM6 interface? HTC Home? Manilla 2D? Which one do you prefer. Remember that Manilla 2D means beta, means less memory, means more freezes and crashes. But it looks awesome
* Plan ahead. What do you want to see in your today screen? Which ROM already has what you want? If you want your appointments in the today screen, then don't flash a Manilla ROM. You want a big digital clock? Go with HTC Home. Or try a naked ROM with Pocket Digital Clock. Although other programs do fancy things, such as flash, opera, htc album, etc. you end up using the today screen most of your time. So pay attention to the default today screen.
* Check the most recent posts in the thread. They contain valuable information such as recently discovered problems and their fixes. They also contain performance and stability related reviews of users.
* IMPORTANT!!! Decide whether you really need a new ROM. Don't just flash for the sake of flashing, if you can't afford a new device, then don't flash. Because at the end of the flashing process, you may have a brick in your hands instead of your lovely Hermes. This is rare, but it happens. Although there are ways for recovering a flash, these may or may not work for you. And even if they would work, they may be quite difficult to follow.

As usual my favorite Schap's 4.41!

best rom for hermes
crc's are good roms also herpes rom PC_Pro.V20 ( no i havent spelt that wrong!) just check out the benchmark page some are good some are bad its trial and error really get flashing

After trying several ROMs
I think that PDA Viet V25 is the best (for me), after using it for several days now I didn't need to make a single soft reset and it is fast
this is only my experience

hsalah72 said:
After trying several ROMs
I think that PDA Viet V25 is the best (for me), after using it for several days now I didn't need to make a single soft reset and it is fast
this is only my experience
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Dvha79_ddt v25 basic BS working great for me ..

Mick Smith's HTC Herpes Build 20755
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=431668

htc hd2 touchflo on at&t tilt2

I am a little new to XDA...but I cant really find a straight answer to a question I have.
I just purchased the tilt2...love it. Unfortunately, I watched videos on the new hd2, and while I don't want the phone....gotta have my keyboard....I think a couple of the touchflo tabs make MUCH more sense.
So basically, I am wondering if cooks on here feel that at some point they will be able to offer some of those features in .cab files?
I dont want a whole new rom, I tried that on my original tilt...and it just never worked perfect, gps problems, some menus didnt look right. I really just want the phone to work perfectly like at&t intended...but with the new contacts tab, email tab, and maybe the new home screen that allows weather backgrounds and I believe allows a couple contacts straight on it.
Anyway...based on how people have been able to pull apart software for these phones...does this sound possible? or is touchflo simply too complicated to only pull parts of it out? I wouldnt want to simply entirely replace my at&t tilt 2 touchflo version with the hd2 version because I have heard that you would lose landscape mode for touchflo?
Anyway...just wondering if I can hope for this...or if I simply need to accept what I have until the touch pro 3 comes out?
p.s. I am assuming I would need that new version for what I wanted..unless hacks are possible? Basically I love the new email tab that allows you to read your emails right from there instead of showing them in an envelope.
I like the new contacts tab much better....more functional than that rotating carousel thing.
New today screen is nice with the weather background...and I like the idea of contacts on that screen.

No, you aren't going be able to change your TF3D with a simple .cab file.
It would require the flashing of a new ROM.
the HD2 'Sense' interface is Manila 2.5 and is in many ROMs over at the development section. Since Manila 2.5 is only designed for the HD2, when using the interface there is no landscape support for when the keyboard is slid out.
No one in xda-deveolopers has shown the ability to be able to take some features from Manila 2.1 and mix them with 2.5. If they could, I'm sure HTC would hire them in a heartbeat. HTC has an entire team of paid workers that create the Manilas. It takes time and skill and LOTS of work.
I would recommend just flashing a good Manila 2.1 ROM. Get rid of your AT&T bloatware. NGRZ's Photon ROM (in my signature) is a good place to start. It is very fast, stable, and comes preloaded with a ton of useful apps.
You will have less problems with his ROM than AT&T's stock ROM.

skyler17 said:
No, you aren't going be able to change your TF3D with a simple .cab file.
It would require the flashing of a new ROM.
the HD2 'Sense' interface is Manila 2.5 and is in many ROMs over at the development section. Since Manila 2.5 is only designed for the HD2, when using the interface there is no landscape support for when the keyboard is slid out.
No one in xda-deveolopers has shown the ability to be able to take some features from Manila 2.1 and mix them with 2.5. If they could, I'm sure HTC would hire them in a heartbeat. HTC has an entire team of paid workers that create the Manilas. It takes time and skill and LOTS of work.
I would recommend just flashing a good Manila 2.1 ROM. Get rid of your AT&T bloatware. NGRZ's Photon ROM (in my signature) is a good place to start. It is very fast, stable, and comes preloaded with a ton of useful apps.
You will have less problems with his ROM than AT&T's stock ROM.
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Thank you for the response...I figured that was the case.
So let me ask you...I am very nervous about flashing the ROM on my brand new expensive phone. My main concerns:
1. Is their an easy way to go back to the stock setup?
2. When i flashed my first tilt, I had radio problems that never really got fixed
3. What advantage does that ROM have over the stock...other than space? I find the stock ROM has pretty decent speed honestly
4. My main concern: I don't like losing any of the functionality of the stock ROM...I actually like the default ATT opera page, etc.
5. If I could find a ROM that would simply remove things like the ATT mall, but otherwise leave everything else stock..and work just as good as stock...gps, opera, keyboard mapping, etc. I would do it. Oh...I wouldnt mind having custom wallpaper on all tabs.

acolona said:
Thank you for the response...I figured that was the case.
So let me ask you...I am very nervous about flashing the ROM on my brand new expensive phone. My main concerns:
1. Is their an easy way to go back to the stock setup?
2. When i flashed my first tilt, I had radio problems that never really got fixed
3. What advantage does that ROM have over the stock...other than space? I find the stock ROM has pretty decent speed honestly
4. My main concern: I don't like losing any of the functionality of the stock ROM...I actually like the default ATT opera page, etc.
5. If I could find a ROM that would simply remove things like the ATT mall, but otherwise leave everything else stock..and work just as good as stock...gps, opera, keyboard mapping, etc. I would do it. Oh...I wouldnt mind having custom wallpaper on all tabs.
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Here's some feedback:
1. Right now, no -- since the Tilt2 has just been released, many folks are waiting for someone to successfully dump the stock ROM in case we need to go back.
2. Many of the custom ROMs do not include a new radio -- you'll just have to read up and decide which ones you like.
3. Every custom ROM has a different advantage. In some cases its visual, in other cases speed, stability, and some are just highly experimental with features taken from other phones.
4/5. Again since the Tilt2 is so new, give it a little time. Usually there are some chefs who feel the same way you do and will use a stock ROM and just make minor tweaks like taking out some unnecessary bloat and adding some useful programs.
I would recommend if the stock ROM is working ok for you, to stick with it for the time being until some more ATT specific ROMs start getting developed and you find one that will suit your individual needs.

pinoymutt said:
Here's some feedback:
1. Right now, no -- since the Tilt2 has just been released, many folks are waiting for someone to successfully dump the stock ROM in case we need to go back.
2. Many of the custom ROMs do not include a new radio -- you'll just have to read up and decide which ones you like.
3. Every custom ROM has a different advantage. In some cases its visual, in other cases speed, stability, and some are just highly experimental with features taken from other phones.
4/5. Again since the Tilt2 is so new, give it a little time. Usually there are some chefs who feel the same way you do and will use a stock ROM and just make minor tweaks like taking out some unnecessary bloat and adding some useful programs.
I would recommend if the stock ROM is working ok for you, to stick with it for the time being until some more ATT specific ROMs start getting developed and you find one that will suit your individual needs.
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4/5. Perfect, thats a great answer for me. I think that's what I really want is a stock ROM with some tweaks for speed and bloat.
A. Does a stock tweaked ROM usually mean I dont need to worry about fiddling with radios? and the GPS and stuff works just like stock?
B. Any specific ROM chefs that you know of that I should follow that typically do these types of ROMs?
oh..this is unrelated, but does anyone know why I am having issues running software that seems to work fine on other touch pro 2's...I keep getting errors about .net versions being wrong. I tried installing the .net compact package from Microsoft..but it just says it fails during install. This is kind of a pain because I can't get some really common apps to install.

any benifts to 6.5 on jan 20

any benifts to 6.5 on jan 20 ...campared to 6.1

heh?
heh? can you give more details about your question?

He's talking about the WinMo 6.5 upgrade for T-Mobile that is scheduled for official release on 1/20. It's the same leaked one that has been floating around for the last week or so.
To answer the question, I was running it for about 4-5 days. It's a solid ROM, but it's nothing to brag about. It's actually a little slower than most cooked ROMs offered in this forum. If you haven't done HardSPL and tried a cooked ROM, I would suggest doing so. You can always re-SPL/lock your phone if you need to return it for warranty purposes, and now that there is an official T-Mobile ROM you can just re-SPL/lock and then flash the 6.5 T-Mobile ROM to send it back.

T-mobile already official released WM 6.5 two days ago, (it is the same one leaked few weeks ago), see here http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=1611377
It is a very crappy ROM

cgigate said:
T-mobile already official released WM 6.5 two days ago, (it is the same one leaked few weeks ago), see here http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=1611377
It is a very crappy ROM
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It's the official version, I'm sure, but it's not officially released until it shows up here: Windows Mobile Upgrade. The fact that the link is hidden -- i.e., it's not published on T-Mobile's website nor on HTC's website -- means that they haven't released it.
I don't think it's crappy. Sure, that's a matter of opinion...but I've been running custom roms for months that are well beyond T-Mo's WM6.5, and I have to say it's not bad.

I like the new Tmo rom out now but in time will look at some other roms. Just want to make sure that the official go gets my official go lol. I can tell some effort was put into it so its not bad at all.

Looks to be legit, I stand corrected.

kable said:
Its not the official T-Mobile Rom because it doesn't have the T-Mobile Logo on the Startup animation which means it still needs to be updated if only to add that. Who knows what else might be added or removed. Until then its a prerelease.
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The one I flashed from the hidden-official link (not the leaked link of 7-Jan) has the "Stick Together" boot screen...which is T-Mo USA.
My phone didn't have that boot screen...lost it months ago when I first flashed a custom (WWE) rom.

ive been running it now since it was leaked, and I love it.... Im staying on this rom more than likely, but I want to try a custom rom, as its been a while since I flashed any cooked ones........... Of topic but whats a good leo 6.5.3 rom with the least bugs???????? Anyone??????????

temperbad said:
ive been running it now since it was leaked, and I love it.... Im staying on this rom more than likely, but I want to try a custom rom, as its been a while since I flashed any cooked ones........... Of topic but whats a good leo 6.5.3 rom with the least bugs???????? Anyone??????????
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Keep flashing...keep reading...it all depends on what your taste is like, and what you use your phone for!

i hate hearing keep flashing and reading..... Lol read any thread on any custom rom and its nothing but issues..... Im not into taste, I want stability, if ya cant suggest that, please dont suggest the obvious which ive already done, just wondering if anyone could steer in the right bugless rom direction....... But ill do what I always do, read and get discouraged from all the complaints........ thanks

I've been running the leaked rom for about 1 week now and so far it's a little slower than the stock 6.1 rom. Probably because it consumes more resources. My memory is always around 60% when it used to be 50% on the old rom.
The bugs i've found were:
I'm getting will not wake from standby about 1-3 times a day.
Music will not play after a soft reboot or after connected to the PC in Mass Storage Mode. It seems the media is scanning in the background but there's no message saying so. It would take about 20 mins before a file can be played for 6gigs of music.

Looking to install the new Rom, it's official now.
I've been using Timor for the past month or so and I've loved it. Very fast and Very stable. I've only had a couple problems where it freezes in the transition from texting to the home screen. Other than that it's my fav so far.

temperbad said:
i hate hearing keep flashing and reading..... Lol read any thread on any custom rom and its nothing but issues..... Im not into taste, I want stability, if ya cant suggest that, please dont suggest the obvious which ive already done, just wondering if anyone could steer in the right bugless rom direction....... But ill do what I always do, read and get discouraged from all the complaints........ thanks
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The cooked ROMs off of this site have worked out better for me than the stock ones. If I find something that doesn't work I can complain about it and the chef get around to fixing the problem. Try getting T-Mobile to fix something and then post it in a decent amount of time.

In my view, cooked ROMS are way way ahead of stock roms, be they wm6.1 or wm6.5.
The stock built ROMS are too "flat", less imaginative and too much of light weights for devices with unlimited potential like my tp2.

I just gotta say that temperbad does have a point. As someone who likes to hear technical issues as well rather than personal thoughts, it can be a bit frustrating to be trying to get some real bugs, issues with a ROM and have to wade throught comments about colors of screens, and how nice the buttons look. I wanna know a) what goes wrong, b) how does it happen, c) is there a fix. Whether the start menu seems shinier than others is irrelevant to me. Perhaps others feel the same?

well i flashed the 6.5 ...its ok ,i like it ...but nothing extra special about it ...the 6.1 was almost the same...all they did was add a few extra features and colors...with my original 6.1 i could get the same cabs of this site,but it is stable...my next move would be flashing a cooked rom ...but i dont now which one till i read the bourd

Flash It!
I flashed it about a week ago and I really, really like it. The RAM usage IS slightly higher, but I would think that's to be expected. But IMO, the new ROM is faster than the old stock 6.1 ROM I was using. Very stable and no freezes and the like, and that is after adding a couple thousand contacts, syncing a gazillion text messages, and adding a boatload of programs. Plus WM 6.5 is negligibly better aesthetically than 6.1....but better nonetheless.
The plan was to try the stock ROM along with a couple other custom ROMs on the same day...but I've been really satisfied with the stock ROM. Which the exception of Sense 2.5, I personally don't know what I'm missing with the custom ROMs...but I'd love it if someone would tell me specifically what that is.
On the same note, as a new member to this site, I love the forum format for FAQ's and such, but I really wish the site was easier to filter through. For instance, I considered flashing a "Energy" ROM. After deciphering the thread topics and finding his kitchen, then seeing that that there were about a million posts in the thread, I just got lazy and stuck with the stock ROM What if each cook had a "store" that he or she controlled with multiple threads in his store for each ROM and iteration of them...? Though I'm new to this community, I don't believe you would sacrifice the essence of the site with more usability. I guess that would take some web developers and additional resources so it's probably wishful thinking. But since they're talking about bringing in non-HTC phones I don't think it should be out of the question.
I also didn't realize initially that a lot of the themes, task bars, ROM's, software, and etc that are compatible with the TP2 are actually in other phone forums that run WM 6.1+ and Sense UI. Then of course, there's the generic applications and themes forums. It can be a bit much at times if you're anal like me and you want a certain clock and a specific taskbar. I don't mind searching at all, but try a search for "transparent clock" or "htc taskbar" only if you're brave...
ANYHOO *back on the trail* I like the new TMO 6.5 ROM. I don't have any benchmark tests or anything, but it "feels" faster to me. And far as I can tell, some of the cooked ROMs are stock ROMs with built in themes, minus bloatware, added tweaks, and built in software. I do all that stuff myself anyways

Try b16b's roms, 6.5.3 leo is awesome least buggiest one for me, and I've tried them all (even the legendary energy roms). You just need to install leo 2g dialer I think because the dialer will be missing, oh and it uses x2 task mgr (no task mgr in others 6.5.1 roms) and Ms stock msg. You'll be missing alot of things but you can always add it, I did.

no thanks he needs to finish the rom ...so we dont have to add cab files