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I was just wondering which version of WM6 people here have installed on their device. Please vote! I, myself, am currently using Black 2.5 and Radio 1.41.
Looks to me like "Once you go black, you don't go back!"
how many people are going to make the same thread over and over?
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how many people are going to make the same thread over and over?
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Same number of noobs it takes to screw in a lightbulb.
LVSW's support Chinese Plus better than others
I need to install ce-star to support chinese input and display,
LVSW's is the best for me,fast and stable.
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At least this one actually has a working poll, so the results can be viewed easily without having to read pages upon pages of opinionated views
Why is BLACK in italic?
panzer said:
Why is BLACK in italic?
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coz its frikken kikken!!!!
I use black 2.0 b4
and change to use LVSW now
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I didn't start the thread to decide what to install. It's just for fun to see how many people have what.
Just *bumping* it up!
Black is the best, hands down.
i use them all at one point,
Black is fast and quite functional. Support regarding installation is very good too.
CUSTEL's 2.5
The best ROM I have tried out of 10 in terms of stability and reliability.
Custel's is the most stable. Black has too many bluetooth and sleep of death issues.
I havent frozen up once with Custel, I use to freeze three or four times a day with black.
Has anyone lost their wireless/wired modem function now, I'm on Black2.5 and can't use my set as a modem for my lappy, tried BT,IR, USB...none work now? I really need this feature to log into work when in the field. Any ideas?
edit: I let my fat li'll fingers do the walking and found it...AWESOME site guys, well done to all. You put MS to shame!
Im going to use CUSTEL's roms from now on. Forget Black!
customise black
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Im going to use CUSTEL's roms from now on. Forget Black!
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hi jj i have customise ur black 3.1 with new bluetooth drivers and audioa manager and office 2k and its friigin killer. awaitng ur new release but i might be holding onto this for awhile.
cheers
well done to all the chefs
I must say i tried all the roms. they are really good custel is very stable lsvw is also great i only hate the ugly 3g icon and also i tried sleuths. i have customise my own black rom based on black 3.0.1 with new bluetooth drivers an so on and this one really works for me.
So hail to the chefs in the kitchen
Tmobile is sending me my 3rd Dash, I know this one is gonna be the same lagged out pos. They offered a shadow, but that phone is garbage. Should I just keep playing this send back the phone, get a new one and hope they offer me something better, or take this new phone they're sending and flash the rom right away?
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Tmobile is sending me my 3rd Dash, I know this one is gonna be the same lagged out pos. They offered a shadow, but that phone is garbage. Should I just keep playing this send back the phone, get a new one and hope they offer me something better, or take this new phone they're sending and flash the rom right away?
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If you flash the rom with one from kavana or rickwyatt you always have the option of putting the original rom if you need to send it back again.
word, now the tedious task of finding out the best rom and the instructions for installation, this forum is a mess lol
to tell you the truth is not too bad i upgrated mine in like 15 to 20 minutes last night, im ussing rickwaytt version 23 if u want to downloaded it have the link in my signature just make sure you unlock ur phone. if u got any question just post it here ill try to help but there is plenty of people willing to help around here
Do not get the Shadow, it is garbage... trust me...
Speed sounds more important to you than anything.
1) Use Kavana's ROM, or, even better, Ricky's Vanilla ROM
2) Do not install Voice Command.
3) Do not choose a CHome homescreen with the media goodies.
4) Install your most essential apps to the devince, never to the storage card. Install nothing non-essential.
5) Overclock it to 240. This is solid on any dash.
Do the above and your phone will be as fast as anything on the market, and as funtional, at this point in time. If it still doesn't suit your needs, get a different phone and a dedicated UMPC and 'tooth them.
p.s. I'm also on my 3rd dash,and Tmo has nothing else I would accept. I've checked. and tried a wing and a shadow first hand.
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p.s. I'm also on my 3rd dash,and Tmo has nothing else I would accept. I've checked. and tried a wing and a shadow first hand.
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Dash all the way man
so i read that my favs wont be there, does that mean those phone numbers will no longer be free for me? because i live off that
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so i read that my favs wont be there, does that mean those phone numbers will no longer be free for me? because i live off that
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There is a program install that I've read it works like My favs, but i dont use it as much so i cant realy say how well it works.
Don't Worry
It just means that the neat T-Mobile MyFaves interface won't be there. Whenever you call someone on my faves, the charges are still the same; their phone number hasn't changed so why would calling one of them by dialing their phone number change?
You can still add an app that will put a MyFaves like feature on your phone. Plus, there are ROMS with this feature built into it.
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so i read that my favs wont be there, does that mean those phone numbers will no longer be free for me? because i live off that
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so did your other dash's break???
cause i read online, before i got mine, that the screen would break if i dopped it, and i gotta tell ya ive dropped mine a few times and it doesnt even have a scratch on it.
I was wondering myself what the differences are between Rick and Kavana ROM. I have very successfully installed the Kavana 080408 ROM and it is awesome, but I hear a lot of people raving about Rickys ROM.
What version is the best (I dowloaded the v14 version)?
I love the way Kavana runs and looks. Speed is awesome and interface is fast (not overclocked).
What are the differences?
Thanks...
Run the latest Ricky's rom. I have it below. A lot of problems are fixed in this rom and its really nice. Ricky's rom is just an updated version of Kavana with the bugs fixed and all.
are there any images somewhere. I imagine it looks pretty much the same as kavanas. Right?
Thanks again. I'm downloading right now and popping it on in a moment.
Well, it is but there are some new applications and a lot of bugs fixed. Plus it has Chome slim which could be changed from the tools folder and then go to extras. (check it out you can change a lot of stuff from there and you can make it transparent and all). Check it out and mess around with it once you download it.
Yeah, I will. Cool thanks.....
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Yeah, I will. Cool thanks.....
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Let me know what you think once you start loading it ok.
nah my screen is fine, but the phone is just acting up like crazy and having a lot of lag problems etc..etc...
i just got my replacement today, so i'm gonna try this rom thing out, but my old dash isnt even starting up anymore, i wanna save the **** i got on there
I don't think I'm alone here when I say we need a new ROM. I'm thinking about making one for us. Any interest ?
This may be a noobish question, but how would it be different from the current ROM's that we have available?
not a noobish
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This may be a noobish question, but how would it be different from the current ROM's that we have available?
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thats a very good question as a matter of fact im intrested to know myself. good question buddy =)
I don't know.... Slim panels built in ? Chine crap gone ? Etc etc...
what about...
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I don't know.... Slim panels built in ? Chine crap gone ? Etc etc...
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what about built in diamond touch icons and features? like the clock and all that other good stuff? theres an idea to work with =)
I would personally like a rom without office mobile and orneta calculator built in as well as ricks extras folder. Have tried cooking my own unsuccessfully. Would go to kavanas rom but like the custom panels on ricks rom. If you are doing it then it would be awesome to have mini weather built into the rom since i'm a big fan of it!! Also you came out with a cab that adds a reboot option to shut down screen that i absolutely love, would be great if you could build that in as well org!!
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I don't know.... Slim panels built in ? Chine crap gone ? Etc etc...
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I'm not familiar with the China stuff... but what's the advantage of having slim panels built in versus adding it to Ricky's or Kavana's ROM...? Does it take up less space? Is it any more stable?
Stats would like Miniweather built in as well, but is there any advantage compared to installing your cab to one of the current ROMs?
I'm not trying to shoot down ur idea... I'm just trying to wrap my head around the benefits to be gained from building everything into a ROM.
That being said, I'd probably be interested... I know for me it's annoying knowing that there's a bunch of crappy .png files (like *****X, for example) on my phone that I can't delete...
Great plan NRG
I can see your point in that since the last ROM's there have been many tweaks in appearance etc, to which could be made readily available from the ofset, including weather app would be cool, would be good if this was a project for all users so with your knowledge we could all get the ROM we want?
Mind you would be another outlay as i'd have to get another Dash the last thing i'd want to do is change the look i have on Dash
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I'm not familiar with the China stuff... but what's the advantage of having slim panels built in versus adding it to Ricky's or Kavana's ROM...? Does it take up less space? Is it any more stable?
Stats would like Miniweather built in as well, but is there any advantage compared to installing your cab to one of the current ROMs?
I'm not trying to shoot down ur idea... I'm just trying to wrap my head around the benefits to be gained from building everything into a ROM.
That being said, I'd probably be interested... I know for me it's annoying knowing that there's a bunch of crappy .png files (like *****X, for example) on my phone that I can't delete...
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Hey yeah there is one benefit. When you reach 50 programs installed the remove programs list goes blank. It would be one less program to add to list freeing up a space for another program to be added without the above happening. Its just a personal request as well, seeing as org is thinking about doing it it makes sense to me to have his great weather app built in.
I like the idea because Im a modder..... I wanna try new ROMS, new ideas... bring it on!
I like Ricky's rom, and have been using it for quite a few months now. It does everything I need and more- but there are a couple things I would change.
-Multiple keymaps, for excalibur/dash/different language keypads
-undo the shortcuts back to original, so the ie button goes to ie, etc
-default a wallpaper in the call screen for an alphanumeric converter, or find a way to make it work properly like Tmo did
-Some sort of a reboot shortcut would be awesome! Even better- a program that reboots for you every day at a specified time
-am I the only one that constantly needs to close programs and free memory? If not, a shortcut there would be nice too!
Thats all I can think of, adding more neat programs and such is such a double edged sword- some will love it, some will hate it. Personally, I would like to see a weather program and I always load Live search and google maps, but others may just prefer to have more available memory. It seems like I have to go into celetask and stop everything, then run the free memory program twice to get enough memory to run skyfire
Are dash roms capable of UC? If they are, that would be way to go on many of the apps people are requesting.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=366333&highlight=user+customizations+roms
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Are dash roms capable of UC? If they are, that would be way to go on many of the apps people are requesting.
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ooooo! that would be nice!
im in... im all for it..
With out a doubt
id be very interested to see how this rom turns out you should make it
I would say man if you got the time and will power to make it go ahead. I am really interested in the outcome of this new rom.
is it done yet?
wmp
what about replacing wmp with a stream compatible player ?
Cooking....
NRG,
Looks like you got the thumbs up from everyone, how about a thread on what we would like to include in the ROM, software sugestions, tweaks etc, i'm sure all of us could provide you with resources towards your new ROM cook.
stylez.
the joke is on me
but i think it might b useful.
I guess what I mean to say I am sick of all these problems, with both stock and cooked roms, I just want a phone that works smoothly.
What I wouldn't give for ANY ROM that is reliable.
I have tried ROM after ROM, and I still have not found even one that is truly reliable. The stock ROMs, or ones close to stock are maybe better but not OK.
I am so sick of the slow HTC messenging client (I have tried the fix to disable it, but that doesn't work)
Even the regular windows messenging freezes.
In fact the phone seems to have a lot of fun freezing up all the time. It usually unfreezes after a while, but why would I want a phone that I have to wait 5 minutes for before I can do anything?
All I want is 1 reliable ROM. It doesn't have to be lightning fast, just something that doesn't waste my time.
It would also be nice to have something with a bit of cool graphics in it too, but that is not important.
I have read online about a lot of people having the same problems. Why can't we seem to fix this? I have a lot of faith in Xda-developers, so I know this can be done.
try cooking your own then maybe you'll see how hard it is to make a reliable rom. :|
Yeah, I don't mean to give any offense to the chefs, as I thank them for their effort, but I think the problem is deeper than that.
I just want to know what I can do? Or maybe how can I help to discover the root cause of these problems?
you know...i dont think its the ROMs...
honestly i think it's because the stuff that's on the phone (whether its a stock ROM or a cooked one)
it NEEDS more memory...
thats what i think at least...
well how can one build a ROM that is snappy and reliable?
Its not the RAM, its the Qualcrap MSM7200 processor. Same processor for 3 generations. Thats why.
Check my signature & words of Gandhi Ji, you will understand why we fail. Our greed always outgrows our technological developments & what we are left with in the end is nothing but frustration.
To be specific have shipped ROM & attain the nirvana.
Kind of same feelings here. I have been using modified ROMS and now I realized that some of my text messages don't go through to people. This is kind of bad because I already fired one person from our company because there was misunderstanding cause she never received the message but I didn't believe her cause I got confirmation from the operator that she got the msg
and JUST now the phone just suddenly went blank and now it says that has to reset the device completely. I didn't even touch the phone I just noticed that it had lost the wallpaper suddenly and then tried to reinstall the wallpaper didn't work. Then reset and the phone didn't get on anymore
Luckily after some waiting the screen came and said I can reset the device. Now has to reinstall everything again. Fuuuuck. Would have other things to do than this..
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I am so sick of the slow HTC messenging client (I have tried the fix to disable it, but that doesn't work)
Even the regular windows messenging freezes.
In fact the phone seems to have a lot of fun freezing up all the time. It usually unfreezes after a while, but why would I want a phone that I have to wait 5 minutes for before I can do anything?
All I want is 1 reliable ROM. It doesn't have to be lightning fast, just something that doesn't waste my time.
It would also be nice to have something with a bit of cool graphics in it too, but that is not important.
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have u tried my rom. i think i got them all covered
let me know here y it wouldn foot ur bill
cheers
Maybe we should start a quest to find that one ultimate ROM that makes this thing into a phone we can rely on.
I bought this phone because I use all of it's features heavily, I text and email and call and view documents, and surf the web and listen to music and watch videos and more constantly on this thing.
For it to be unreliable negates all the good functions it has.
How about we all work on finding/testing one ROM that is priority #1 Reliable?
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Maybe we should start a quest to find that one ultimate ROM that makes this thing into a phone we can rely on.
I bought this phone because I use all of it's features heavily, I text and email and call and view documents, and surf the web and listen to music and watch videos and more constantly on this thing.
For it to be unreliable negates all the good functions it has.
How about we all work on finding/testing one ROM that is priority #1 Reliable?
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lol...seems kind of a self defeating goal. Can there be anything such as the one perfect Rom when we each have our individual preferences and priorities? Also, we have to factor in the reality that the networks themselves are not reliable. So, if ATnT or Verizon drops calls and text messages, can we really say it is the Rom that is unreliable?
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have u tried my rom. i think i got them all covered
let me know here y it wouldn foot ur bill
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hehe, wonderful suggestion... but... this is the ROM I currently use and it has all the same sort of problems.
I really appreciate the ROM though, thank you for making it.
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lol...seems kind of a self defeating goal. Can there be anything such as the one perfect Rom when we each have our individual preferences and priorities? Also, we have to factor in the reality that the networks themselves are not reliable. So, if ATnT or Verizon drops calls and text messages, can we really say it is the Rom that is unreliable?
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I was thinking of making one that can be the basis ROM from which all others are birthed. Or at least find what formula or tricks we could apply to make the ROMs better?
lawlz. Good Luck finding the 100% perfect rom.
If you look at each rom's thread, each new rom they release more likely has a new OS build. Then each new build has their own issues, either from previous version or new issue entirely.
IF the rom the chefs release is just plain unusable, they normally release a FIXED rom with the same build.
Known issues are just that, chefs normally don't fix them because they just can't. So hoping for a new build of the software might fix it.
Each of the roms' issues can be fixed with patches, there are general patches that can be found all over or a patch by the chef when they sometimes forget to fix an issue unique to their rom.
From what i've been noticing, no chefs has cooked up the same rom more than 5 times to fix some issues until it is 100% perfect. By the time they do that, there's a new build of the software and they'll be cooking that instead. Not only just the OS build, they'll also add/remove some programs, change programs to newer versions.
All of these combined will introduce new issues.
Then the cycle continues...
There's about 20 or more Rom selection out there that you can choose from. There's gotta be one that is close to your preferences.
A rom that is deemed 100% reliable to others may not be the same to you.
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Check my signature & words of Gandhi Ji, you will understand why we fail. Our greed always outgrows our technological developments & what we are left with in the end is nothing but frustration.
To be specific have shipped ROM & attain the nirvana.
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Well the shipped 6.5 ROM on the Tilt2 seems to have the same freezing problem according to countless reviews on the web.
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Perhaps then we should deem what is reliable. Firstly, 100%, I know, is too much to ask for, but I want as close as I can get.
So reliability to me means: I can use the phone as it was meant to be used.
This means: no freezing, no need to reset constantly, when someone calls me I can see the caller ID, etc
Simple and easy.
Now is that too much to ask for?
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hehe, wonderful suggestion... but... this is the ROM I currently use and it has all the same sort of problems.
I really appreciate the ROM though, thank you for making it.
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really???
phony said:
1.I am so sick of the slow HTC messenging client (I have tried the fix to disable it, but that doesn't work)
2.Even the regular windows messenging freezes.
3.In fact the phone seems to have a lot of fun freezing up all the time. It usually unfreezes after a while, but why would I want a phone that I have to wait 5 minutes for before I can do anything?
4.It doesn't have to be lightning fast, just something that doesn't waste my time.
5.It would also be nice to have something with a bit of cool graphics in it too, but that is not important.
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1.i don have HTC clent cooked in to begin with.
2.source of sms hanging is the showcase suite, which is not cooked in
3.well i don share that with u
4.hmmm...let me think
5.hmmm...let me think
sorry i tried helping u out but i don think u are on my rom coz then u would know that leo sms client is not cooked in. nor is showcase suite
thnx for ur input though
Well there are Roms that are really reliable and very fast. I'm using the same custom ROM for a long time now... I never had to reset, no freezing. It just works.
It's more stable then stock even. Just search in the first 3 pages of the rom thread for the touch x roms.
So no it's not to much to ask. I think this thread should be closed because it's only about whining. Nothing constructive.
EDIT: and that's not the only ROM that is stable. And let me remind you that al cooks are doing it for fun and free willing. As end user you can't complain. You have no right. Asking and making requests is fine, but I'm getting sick of people saying nobody is listening or will respond on questions asked multiple times and awnsered multiple times. The same is for people screaming other people don't make them what they want while they have to knowledge about the subject at all.
This is not ment offensive in any way to anyone.
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Well there are Roms that are really reliable and very fast. I'm using the same custom ROM for a long time now... I never had to reset, no freezing. It just works.
It's more stable then stock even. Just search in the first 3 pages of the rom thread for the touch x roms.
So no it's not to much to ask. I think this thread should be closed because it's only about whining. Nothing constructive.
EDIT: and that's not the only ROM that is stable. And let me remind you that al cooks are doing it for fun and free willing. As end user you can't complain. You have no right. Asking and making requests is fine, but I'm getting sick of people saying nobody is listening or will respond on questions asked multiple times and awnsered multiple times. The same is for people screaming other people don't make them what they want while they have to knowledge about the subject at all.
This is not ment offensive in any way to anyone.
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Well, as I said in the first few post, it is not the fault of the chefs, and I appreciate greatly all their efforts. I never complained about the chefs and their ROMS, it is the system itself. Perhaps I am asking Windows Mobile to be better.
It think it boils down to Microsoft building a system that is not up to par, then HTC trying to hack on their software which creates a system that is is inherently flawed.
I fully support and am grateful for all the custom ROMs out there. At least it gives us more interesting choices.
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Kind of same feelings here. I have been using modified ROMS and now I realized that some of my text messages don't go through to people. This is kind of bad because I already fired one person from our company because there was misunderstanding cause she never received the message but I didn't believe her cause I got confirmation from the operator that she got the msg
and JUST now the phone just suddenly went blank and now it says that has to reset the device completely. I didn't even touch the phone I just noticed that it had lost the wallpaper suddenly and then tried to reinstall the wallpaper didn't work. Then reset and the phone didn't get on anymore
Luckily after some waiting the screen came and said I can reset the device. Now has to reinstall everything again. Fuuuuck. Would have other things to do than this..
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Wow dude you honestly owe her an apology. You sound like a total douche for ****ing up your phone and firing someone for it.
I'm just saying man, the rest of her life she's going to remember you as a douche for your own mistake.
Does it make any difference? I'm using TAEL on my ATT Fuze right now, but it's giving me real problems (actually, it's unusable at the moment. I'm 100% on android- until my battery runs out...) Should I go back to a WinMo 6.1 build? Which one do you use?
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Does it make any difference? I'm using TAEL on my ATT Fuze right now, but it's giving me real problems (actually, it's unusable at the moment. I'm 100% on android- until my battery runs out...) Should I go back to a WinMo 6.1 build? Which one do you use?
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Several people have done fairly extensive testing... and all we've found that WinMo does is initialize some hardware for Android - so any build of WinMo is fine. It really does not have any relation to Android at all.
With that said, if you want an easy way to go straight to Android, search for Gen.Y. That method is a sort of dual-boot of Android and WinMo (not a true Android ROM keep in mind.)
Thank you!
That's great- I'll just flash something simple and keep android up (love it BTW!). Does this mean that once android is running, WinMo is completely shut off? Does it make any difference if I have WinMo applications running before I start android?
BTW- Thanks!
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Does this mean that once android is running, WinMo is completely shut off? Does it make any difference if I have WinMo applications running before I start android?
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Basically, yes. Like I said, the only thing WinMo does is initialize hardware - for example, early on we had to make a phone call in WinMo before booting Android to get the mic to work. Devs fixed that issue. Same with hw3d, but they sorted that out as well. I think the only thing left is the display itself (I could be wrong) but there isn't any special app you need to run to initialize that.
I use that lightNHB winmo that is posted on the first page of the android release post. Seems to work good... and gets into Android boot pretty quickly
i'm using TAEL too, but it's quite stable, oh i'v instaled [prj][XDANDROID][2.2][AOSP][29.7.10] but i don't use lightNHB, i simply execute haret.exe on explorer
LightNBH2
No guys, you are all wrong. There's one ROM I'm on now, which automatically boots Linux and as well is very quick to boot (for those people who don't want to use WinMo at all)
It also lets you to use your device as the internal storage to (update/edit Android builds) I find this ROM the best to use with Android. It loads as quickly as possible and auto runs Linux which is surely the best decision so far. Here's the link.
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No guys, you are all wrong.
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I'm so glad you feel our opinions are wrong...
I could easily say you are the wrong one, because I don't want to run a ROM that only boots Android...
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I'm so glad you feel our opinions are wrong...
I could easily say you are the wrong one, because I don't want to run a ROM that only boots Android...
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Haha, that and I said I use LightNHB and works good, and that was also wrong
Come on now people, is this needed really??
I think to paraphrase the thread, try out some ROMs and see how you get on.
Really thats it.
Agreed; thread closed.