HDR10+ videos conversion in Gallery app - Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Questions & Answers

Hi all,
I've been using my Galaxy Note 10+ 5G model shooting 4K HDR10+ videos and using the Gallery app to share them (or use the Instagram button to upload) and it converts it (though it says it is "compressing video") to standard SDR (so that people won't see a washed our HDR video on their non-HDR screens). So far, it's been good and works fine.
However, today I hit upon a problem where I was waiting for a video to convert/compress and it got stuck, so I cancelled it and tried it again and now the video won't share to Instagram properly, it says the file is not supported. I tried sharing the same file onto my cloud and downloading it onto my PC from there and the video is corrupted, so from what I can see is the SDR converted video file outputted by the gallery/video player app got corrupted during conversion and is useless as a converted video, but the original HDR10+ video in gallery is still fine and I can watch it in the Gallery app, but I can't RE-convert it as the gallery/video player app thinks it is already converted and if I try to share it, it just shares it fine without trying to convert it (again, as it thinks it has already converted it).
I double checked the original video file by downloading it onto my PC and since my monitor is not a HDR monitor, the video plays all washed out, showing that the video is still indeed a HDR10+ file.
I think my main question then is: where are these converted SDR videos actually stored on the phone? If the gallery/video app is converting these video files to SDR to be shared, are they stored somewhere? Or is it some kind of look-up table applied to the video file by the Gallery/Video player app and then shared out (but the original is still untouched as a file)?
I even tried clearing my cache in all the apps to see if it will re-convert the video but nope, as far the app is concerned, the video has already been converted.

Try converting another vid. May be just that one is mistagged. Clear data too if clearing cache doesn't get it done and my favorite cure; try clearing the system cache.

blackhawk said:
Try converting another vid. May be just that one is mistagged. Clear data too if clearing cache doesn't get it done and my favorite cure; try clearing the system cache.
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Other videos are fine, it was just that one video! I tried clearing cache, didn't work, so I'll try to clear data on the Gallery and video player app. If that doesn't work then I'll try clearing the system cache.
So no one knows where these converted files are stored or whether it is just some kind of lookup table applied to the file to convert to SDR? Surely if I am converting hundreds of videos, it should be taking up space on the phone's storage?!

Ah! I cleared the Gallery app's data (because clearing cache didn't work) and it reset the Gallery app and now I can convert that video file again and it works now! So the metadata or converted data is stored by the Gallery app somehow...

Paiong said:
Ah! I cleared the Gallery app's data (because clearing cache didn't work) and it reset the Gallery app and now I can convert that video file again and it works now! So the metadata or converted data is stored by the Gallery app somehow...
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Yah. I was fearing it was the maybe video's metadata that was screwed up...
I really don't know how people who don't play with their Androids get by.
It's unnerving how easily Androids sometimes seem to pick up bad habits out of the blue. A lot of bugware out there.
Usually it's a simple fix if you play with it for a bit.
I loathe the "techies" who always fall back on the hard reset option in a blink of an eye rather than actually trying to find the issue.
I've had a lot of trouble with photo gallery apps since migrating to the Note 10+, you're not alone.
I don't use Samsung's... the native one worked so much better on my stupid S4+.
Progress? MS style maybe... I had to replace many of the Samsung apps that use to work fine on the S4+ with 3rd party ones to get the functionality I needed.
One of Samsung's subtle failings.

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Yah. I was fearing it was the maybe video's metadata that was screwed up...
I really don't know how people who don't play with their Androids get by.
It's unnerving how easily Androids sometimes seem to pick up bad habits out of the blue. A lot of bugware out there.
Usually it's a simple fix if you play with it for a bit.
I loathe the "techies" who always fall back on the hard reset option in a blink of an eye rather than actually trying to find the issue.
I've had a lot of trouble with photo gallery apps since migrating to the Note 10+, you're not alone.
I don't use Samsung's... the native one worked so much better on my stupid S4+.
Progress? MS style maybe... I had to replace many of the Samsung apps that use to work fine on the S4+ with 3rd party ones to get the functionality I needed.
One of Samsung's subtle failings.
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I know what you mean! I'm always fiddling around with my phone's settings. This feature of converting HDR to SDR videos bugged me for a while as I never knew how exactly it did it (coming from a PC video editing world, files obviously need to be stored somewhere and outputted somewhere if they are being converted) so it seems like the converted files are somehow stored inside the Gallery app, which is a bit strange but it would explain why once a video has been converted, it never needs converting again if you share it more than once (unless you clear the data like I just did now!). But I've had this phone since August 2019 and this is the first time the conversion messed up somehow...
I never liked the default Samsung gallery apps before, this is the first time I actually use it because I actually find the Gallery app on the Note 10+ to be half decent as it integrates with the video player, the conversion etc... and also the pics and videos actually look kind of decent in this app vs past apps, but in the past, on my S3 and Note 4, I've always used QuickPic as my gallery app (until they got bought out and went downhill from there). The only thing I miss on this default Gallery app is when you're scrolling through a lot of images and videos, on other apps if you hold the scrolling sidebar and scroll, it will bring up the date of the file so you know how far back you are scrolling (sometimes I need to go back to last year or even further back depending on the folder of pics I'm looking at) but the Samsung Gallery app doesn't highlight the date so you just have to find the file without help...

I use DV Gallery a lot. No ads.
Like the options it has for files it shows and more importantly ones it doesn't. Scanner images aren't what I want to see in my photo browser.
My biggest issue is with imported pic folders I loss the picture order. It's maddening. I have thousands of images with no easy way to restore them in date taken sequential order.
My PC based Canon apps can probably do it, maybe... stupid Android!!!

blackhawk said:
I use DV Gallery a lot. No ads.
Like the options it has for files it shows and more importantly ones it doesn't. Scanner images aren't what I want to see in my photo browser.
My biggest issue is with imported pic folders I loss the picture order. It's maddening. I have thousands of images with no easy way to restore them in date taken sequential order.
My PC based Canon apps can probably do it, maybe... stupid Android!!!
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Ah yeah, frustrating! I know QuickPic used to be able to "fix" the date (although sometimes temporarily) and sort it in date taken sequential order. Doesn't the default Gallery app sort by date taken order? There's never one perfect app that covers all needs! I feel your pain.

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I have researched all over and have downloaded and tried several different ripping software, but I cannot get movies to play full screen. I also can't get mp4 to play, the only movie I've been able to get playing on the defy is one that I converted into 3gp...but it wasn't full screen and was crappy playback.
Can anyone please help! Right now I am on the stock 2.1. Thank you!
I reckon you could try 'super' as it has some wide options to choose from to fit your creteria. Google it should find the download site.
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Sweet - works great! Thanks a bunch!
Hi, don't know about Droid players --> but it seems that you found one that works for you anyway.
But regarding re-encoding softwares, I strongly recommend "handbrake".
IMO, it is the best one I've tried by far because it is really easy to take a 4:3 format video files re-encode them to 16:9 mp4s. So cropping is very easily done and videos will be played without stretching on your phone.
If you want to try it for your Defy, select the "iPhone Legacy" format setting on the right side of the main screen and uncheck "large file size".
To crop:
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--> so choose "custom" cropping and then remove that much from top and/or bottom.
Choose where to save the reformatted video and start - done!!
This software is awesome and fast; it keeps my two cpu usage at 100% (for the 2 cores...) so no time wasted for conversion. And there is batch conversion as well..
Hope you try and enjoy!
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thanks..and as far as setups go.... I am not running any modifications, roms, roots, flashing or whatever other tricks that most are. My sprint samsung galaxy s epic4g sph-d700 is NOT moified ANY different than the day I purchased it. 100% factory settings, not even an ota upgrade done. As far as what's happening, the music player/ers don't seem to remember some 200 tracks I've been playing since I found my mp3 download capabilities. No files exsist, even after I play them from the file, in which they only exist, through the players their instantly gone once I close the player, although they still remain in the original file they were downloaded to. The media, movie, player is doing the same with the handfull of movies I've installed. My movie player was full , like music players were, yesterday, now "no files exist", says the according app. To add all of my camera pics and image downloads are wiped clean from the gallery. If I snap a new pic it will show up in the gallery, until I close it. When I return their gone, but again still exist in its folder. I don't get it and need a bit of advise on my next move to fix. Thanks people. I hope I've explained my issue good enough for diagnosis.
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Back up everything on your sd card and format the card. See if that helps
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thanks..and as far as setups go.... I am not running any modifications, roms, roots, flashing or whatever other tricks that most are. My sprint samsung galaxy s epic4g sph-d700 is NOT moified ANY different than the day I purchased it. 100% factory settings, not even an ota upgrade done. As far as what's happening, the music player/ers don't seem to remember some 200 tracks I've been playing since I found my mp3 download capabilities. No files exsist, even after I play them from the file, in which they only exist, through the players their instantly gone once I close the player, although they still remain in the original file they were downloaded to. The media, movie, player is doing the same with the handfull of movies I've installed. My movie player was full , like music players were, yesterday, now "no files exist", says the according app. To add all of my camera pics and image downloads are wiped clean from the gallery. If I snap a new pic it will show up in the gallery, until I close it. When I return their gone, but again still exist in its folder. I don't get it and need a bit of advise on my next move to fix. Thanks people. I hope I've explained my issue good enough for diagnosis.
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interesting problem u have there.....I would try to back up all the music and format the sd card, then try it again if that fails then I would reccommend using a friends sd card to make sure its ur epics software and not the sd card. Also if u want to try a great music player app, winamp is free and works very nicely. Good luck I hope everything works out for u.
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[Q] Does anyone know how motion shots work/are stored?

I took a bunch of photos this morning for work.
Here is a screencap of the DCIM->Camera directory on my Pixel 2 XL. The thumbnails folder in this location is empty, and the .inflight folder (which I've never seen on an android device before) has a .nomedia placeholder file in it.
https://imgur.com/a/0ImKZ
Some of these are normal "IMG" shot, and some of these are obviously "MVIMG" shots which I believe are supposed to be the motion type. As you'll notice, the size of some of these images are ridiculous (upwards of 9 megs in some cases).
Also strange, I have three different video files (.mp4) that are reporting 0 byte sizes. Since I did not record any video this morning, I assume these have to be related to the motion photo feature of the phone but I'm not clear on how any of this works. If I was to pull these off my phone for a storage, how I do I tell which part is "motion" and which part is just images? Will the motion part be kept if I move the mp4s too, or do I lose that feature if I don't back up the empty mp4 files? I honestly don't like the idea of backing up 9 megabyte photos so I may just turn this functionality off in the future.
tl;dr: How does this work and how can I pull it off the phone and keep the functionality?
Does anyone know how to keep the functionality of these files and view the motion on a windows 10 PC stored locally.
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Help Changing Album Art

I have a few albums where the album art refuses to change no matter which program I use.
Based on some searching I found that if you delete all files in "com.android.providers.media\albumthumbs" that the phone should stop forcing its art on specific albums. However after doing so you also have to change the folder to read-only.
I did this on an old s5 neo and it worked.
However on my current s9 I don't have the option to delete files in this folder. So, I found the folder by connecting my phone to my pc and deleted all the files... but I can't change the permission of the folder either on my phone or pc to read-only, so the album art is still not changing.
Tried a bunch of different apps, and in the apps the art is ok, but in the actual music player it's not.
Is there any work around for this? Or any other way to force the album art to change? Any way to change the folder to read-only?
Thanks!
It seems strange that art wouldn't change. Are you sure there isn't art embedded into the files? Download a music tagger, I recommend Mp3tag if you're on Windows, and open the files in there to see if there's any art embedded. Also make sure there isn't a hidden folder.jpg anywhere. If you can't figure it out maybe upload one of the files and I'll have a look to see if I can find the problem.
Hey sure thanks so much if you could help that'd be great.
Here is one of the files. I just opened it in mp3tag, deleted the album art, added a high quality pic. Yet when I uploaded to my phone it still shows some low quality crap as album art.
https://ufile.io/2polz
mkmossop said:
Hey sure thanks so much if you could help that'd be great.
Here is one of the files. I just opened it in mp3tag, deleted the album art, added a high quality pic. Yet when I uploaded to my phone it still shows some low quality crap as album art.
https://ufile.io/2polz
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I've taken a look and the file appears to be OK. Did you happen to check if the previously embedded pic was low quality? Because if it was you might just need to clear albumthumbs again, then recopy over the album with the high quality art embedded in each file (you might also just be able to put it as folder.jpg in the same folder with no embeds on any files, not certain if that works) and let the cache regenerate.
If that doesn't work then I have a couple more questions - how low quality are you talking (a screenshot would be helpful), and what music player are you using? Because testing the file in Samsung Music looks fine to me. You could also have a look at another music player with an option to ignore mediastore's cached covers (which are usually compressed more) and reads the art directly from the file. There are a bunch available that can do this like Retro, Shuttle, Phonograph, Poweramp, and probably tons more.
I've attached screenshots of what it looks like for me on Retro (with mediastore disabled) and Samsung Music.
Hey no I didn't check the previously embeded pic. I did however clear albumthumbs and then recopied the song, but still didn't work. Don't know what the f is up with this phone lol.
I'm not sure what you mean with the folder.jpg. I'm supposed to name the album art file folder.jpg?
Ya mine doesn't look like that unfortunately. Here's a pic of how mine looks on Samsung music player. Also here's the pic I'm trying to use.
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Hey no I didn't check the previously embeded pic. I did however clear albumthumbs and then recopied the song, but still didn't work. Don't know what the f is up with this phone lol.
I'm not sure what you mean with the folder.jpg. I'm supposed to name the album art file folder.jpg?
Ya mine doesn't look like that unfortunately. Here's a pic of how mine looks on Samsung music player. Also here's the pic I'm trying to use.
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Welp, my last idea apart from trying a different music player is to clear the data of Samsung Music. If that doesn't work, I probably can't help sorry.
By the folder.jpg thing I mean instead of embedding the file in every MP3 on an album, which takes up more space (say your album cover is 700 kilobytes across 10 songs, that's 7 megabytes), you can just put it in the same folder as the files (like the attached image). It could also take priority depending on the app, not sure how Samsung Music handles it.
That's alright thanks so much so far.
How do I clear the data from samsung music?
In terms of putting the album art in the same folder as the files... do I do that on my phone or my computer?
mkmossop said:
That's alright thanks so much so far.
How do I clear the data from samsung music?
In terms of putting the album art in the same folder as the files... do I do that on my phone or my computer?
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Open Settings, then go to Apps, find and tap on Samsung Music, then tap Storage, and Clear data. And you can do it on either.
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Open Settings, then go to Apps, find and tap
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on Samsung Music, then tap Storage, and Clear data. And you can do it on either.
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Oh man thanks so much... it finally worked. There are still a couple albums which it didn't work for but it worked for most. Maybe clearing albumthumbs again will work.
Also there's another problem, lol. The mini album art at the bottom of the screen shows up as the old one instead of the new one. I'm gonna try clearing albumthumbs and samsung music again and hopefully that fixes it.
Hey so I (or better you) figured it out finally. If you change the album art right before you clear samsung music then after clearing it will show up with the correct album art in all places. Some of the older ones I changed didn't show up, but if I changed them right before clearing they all showed up perfectly.
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Hey so I (or better you) figured it out finally. If you change the album art right before you clear samsung music then after clearing it will show up with the correct album art in all places. Some of the older ones I changed didn't show up, but if I changed them right before clearing they all showed up perfectly.
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Glad to hear you got it working!

no way to refresh Samsung (native) Music app really?

Someone said to place all new music in internal and then it will be recognized.
Another way is to clear app's data.
Really? No refresh option? Cmon Samsung.
Well I had started the phone over at the time of my prev post..right now thats 3+ hrs ago and that shutdown / startup was after a total data clear in the apps settings Samsung Music app storage, and a unmount of the ext sd.
I just think it is interesting to see the difference in the Samsung indexing compared to the vlc indexing for my music. VLC takes upwards of a half hour. Samsung however has taken over three hours and is not nearly done yet. Of 7 or 8 newly added music folders, still only 3 have showed up (folders tab allows for sort by recently added).
It looks like a 6 hour indexing job or at the very least 4. Probably 6 as I just happened to look down and saw the tail end of some kind of toast notification of passing the first 10000 song point of loading.
Pretty tarded app. REALLY needs a refresh button if it is this slow to index.
But it does look good scrolling thru all the albun covers.
Just had a thought...hope it isn't screwing with my custom created artworks. That would be totally uncalled for.
No checking on a jpg file it remains at its original shape and size.
I have been watching this indexing of the music by the Samsung Music app, very closely.
It returned both positive quantities and negatives so far.
I consider this to be one of the best sets of native apps of any phone so far, but the music app being the only AOD enablable app for lockscreen music has me baffled and disappointed. Though not entirely.
On one hand it is really blows it in that it has taken over 6 hours so far and only 3 of 8 of my newly added folders have been loaded.
Additionally it misses the ball on SEVERAL of the artwork configurations which VLC (not supported in AOD) picks up easily.
First the pro column, it looks good in album view and scrolls real smooth, without using 7 GB for APP Data (which is what vlc takes to run my music collection) (where is it storing the data? is my question here); refer to screenshots 1, 3 &4 &8.
However, there is a small number of album arts missing, and more than expected albums in the 'Unknown Album' position of the 'U's in the alphabet. Which indicates to me that there could be some id tag misrecognition or unrecognition someplaces;
refer to screenshot 15 &16.
Finally the Samsung native music app sees the artwork as different in albums where different songs have different artworks, but only in instances where those arts and songs are nested in separate folders. Such as my version of the Pulp Fiction soundtrack.
In cases where the artworks were embedded separately in the songs of a compilation to show their original album arts, which is how I did the Word Of Mouth compilation, (which I also screenshotted here from the Samsung file manager which displays that in the file manager we can see the individually embedded songs embedded arts in its little file manager thumbnail) there is no individually embedded artwork recognition in the AOD enabled samsung music app. The lockscreen displays show that VLC will have these Word Of Mouth albun arts as different.
Seen in the remaining screenshots:
It's not the only AOD enabled music app. Good play music works just fine as do others.
James.Miller said:
It's not the only AOD enabled music app. Good play music works just fine as do others.
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I am of course speaking of the following always on display as seen in the following screenshot
(though I haven't tried those other apps) ...and not the screenshots in my prior post which are lockscreen shots.
Meanwhile after a decharge today from 100% down to now 44%, it has still not indexed my music files completely as at least one folder is still not seen atop the latest folders list. Most of them just showed up in the last hour or two though. About 24 hours so far since it started.
Presumably it must be storing all these artworks in the system, they are all there as I scroll the lists.
As my sd isn't formatted to the phone but only external.
Man, just buy a better sd card and dont blame the phone for this or atleast try to format this one and try again.
Man. Maaaaan haha. Don't tell people what to do. Aggression indicated stupidity thats just stupid you know. Literally. Loser. I bet you don't even keep any music on your phone. Probably using Spotify. Not me I'm from a different generation. We used to buy physical copies of our music albums, and carry them around with us. The music then was better too.
The phone must be using some sort of sdcard block by block scan eh. It still finding items on the thing. Not exactly a normal method to find files. I'm guessing it locates the head folder, but in my case it's a complex tree.
So if it is the sdcard being 500 GB card. That's a pretty good sized card anyway.
But it is still finding stuff screenshotted it then left it over night (after charge and restart) and it added some 10 more albums or so to the list.
It's not about size of card, but read/write speed, the slower the card the longer it takes for the phone to update the album arts.
I have no problem with this app. I have 6 GB music files in my SD card and it loads all albums and album arts immediately when I open the app. My SD card is Samsung Evo+ 128GB.
Slowly now. Latest rate appears to be finding about 1/hr. Samsung card. Singly written. Couple months old. EVO.
Also it is really fast to load those arts once it finds the absolute block in the SD cards file system.. VLC has always been ultra slow at loading all the music. If one were to attempt to enter an artist heading in VLC or album heading, it could take minutes to resolve the artist or album.
This app has its negative points, but it also has its positive points. I am not here to criticize the app. I am here making a point to observe it. Really pleased with the Samsung apps as I said in the op. The keyboard and the file manager I especially like. The points where the music app slips in finding some arts are probably gonna be repairable by changing out the few non functional music files on a case by case basis.
Seriously fast app for loading the musics and arts. real time jump anywhere in the list by track or albun. Very pleased.
VLC vs Samsung data usage stat for 300 GB of music. this app is like a window to my SD card.
Samsung s native music app is trash honestly.
I would recommend a alternative like vinyl player or black player.
Not pleased again. Used Smart Switch to do a phone backup, took out the sd card, put back in, restored the backup, and now it is re-indexing the music again. So once again my latest added folders are not here. Once again can't listen to my newest adds like Madonna's GHV2 for example, if I wanted to (with the Samsung music app, at least). Which blows.
I thought once it built its music index it would store it in the permanent. now back to square 1.
I'm glad i don't mess around with this stuff any more. I uploaded all my music to Google Play Music and never looked back. Available anywhere, on any device with internet and i can always download music from Play Music if i really need to. I don't have any need to carry thousands of albums in my pocket.
James.Miller said:
I'm glad i don't mess around with this stuff any more. I uploaded all my music to Google Play Music and never looked back. Available anywhere, on any device with internet and i can always download music from Play Music if i really need to. I don't have any need to carry thousands of albums in my pocket.
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That's cool. is that a sharable playlist or what? I can't say as I've heard of that one how does it work? You pay a subscription fee or what?
I have purchased a few albuns off of Google play store but I don't like the feeling of staying connected to the internet. So I can't rely on the internet.
Really ridiculous this app is slowly reloading those folders again. This all started cause I heard from the Samsung store that they could replace my carrier version of the software with something from Samsung. Which they then failed to do. Not something I would do very often.
Massive deceleration curve for this indexing thing. Been screenshotting the progress over the past several hours. The window over thr albums holds it's viewpoint above the list. Say it was started in the 4th quarter of the Alphabet (by albun population) at album number 1200, after 400 albums are added it enters the third quarter by going through first the T's backwards from Tzolkin Date to T Rex.Then on into the S's rising towards the top but staying at a viewpoint of album #1200 in the list, which now would have over 1600
While the population happens over a graph of time on the x axis. The y axis charts the speed of albums added. The curve is hyperbolic deceleration over time.
Last time the indexing was being completed, I saw a few albums still being added. (before the restart happened today).
Between 5 or 1 (guestimated but def. odd numbered amount) entries appeared sometime after noon today as shown in the following two screenshots. Seen by the shift of the Title on the upper left into the right column. This happened around 60 hours after the start of indexing Tuesday evening.
I think send feedback to developer of app and till they fix the problem try another app , i use Poweramp for years for all my music needs

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