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text entry options don't work with Touch HD (on Orange UK)

Hi all,
I apologise if this is not the right place to pose this question, but I just got a Touch HD on an Orange contract a couple of days ago, and I can't seem to be able to change the text entry method on my handset. It always stays as 'Phone Keypad', no matter which method I select, from the several methods listed: Block Recognizer, Compact QWERTY, Full QWERTY, Keyboard, etc. It's the same whether I try to make the selection by pressing the "OPTIONS" button on the phone keypad, or whether I go through Start->Settings->Input
All the software/hardware configuration on my handset is exactly as it was when I received it from Orange, so far I haven't even installed a single new program.
Any help? TIA

Hi.
Can't offer any advice as such, but can tell you that I got my HD from Orange just over a week ago, and I can change the keyboard without any problems.
I originally had a Touch Diamond, so I knew how I wanted it set up. I just brought up the menu from the keyboard at the bottom of the screen when it first popped up and did it from there.
Sorry I can't be any help, other than to tell you that you should be able to do it!
Good luck mate.

Hi,
I had the exact same problem but i wasnt too bothered but then I installed Gyrator and everything started to work.

Hi,
I had the exact same problem but i wasnt too bothered but then I installed HD Tweak and Gyrator and everything started to work. I have no idea how it worked though.

I got this phone yesterday, and I too was confused as to how I selected the different input method. Then I worked it out
It must be a bug with their firmware. You have to HOLD DOWN the centre button, keep your finger pressed and slide it up the screen to select the preferred input method. I think I did this when I was in the Compose SMS screen.
Since then, mine's stayed as I selected it - on Full QWERTY.
Hope this helps!

langauld said:
I got this phone yesterday, and I too was confused as to how I selected the different input method. Then I worked it out
It must be a bug with their firmware. You have to HOLD DOWN the centre button, keep your finger pressed and slide it up the screen to select the preferred input method. I think I did this when I was in the Compose SMS screen."
Same happened with mine. If you click on the options then you cant change it, however if you click on the box in the middle of the screen at the bottom, you can change them.. Bizarre!
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Thanks for the replies and suggestions, guys. I've got it working for me too: by pressing the 4x4 grid-like icon at the bottom centre of the screen to bring up the keyboard, and then pressing the small upward-pointing arrowhead that brings up keyboard options. I guess that's what ultrazonixe probably means... although I couldn't get it work by sliding my finger upwards off the centre button as langauld suggested (except if incidently I did it from the arrowhead icon).
Thanks for the help!

Yes this is quite tricky till you get the idea.
Press the bottom middle button (icon of keypad) to get the keypad up, if its not already up.
Then the bottom icon changes and adds a small up arrow just to the right of the keypad icon. (nothing to do with the four arrows just below the keypad)
you have to press this small up arrow just to the right of the keypad icon and a menu pops labled "touch input settings".
its not the same one that comes up when you press the options tab which does not work.
Press the right choice eg full qwerty or whatever, and hey presto the keypad changes instantly.

same here
Yes I could change it .. via selecting the arrow next to the mini keyboard on the bottom ... but it used to reset it self every time I starsted the phone...
Now I have TouchPal.. I have never looked back.

Repurposing the volume up/down buttons?

i really miss hardware scroll buttons.
on the rhodium there are two little side buttons for adjusting the volume. i'd really like to repurpose these as scroll up/down. For example, to work inside a browser. Unfortunately, there is no standard option (i can find) to redefine the purpose of these buttons.
i'm hoping there's another way. eg registry hack etc.
thanks for any help,

Use AEBPlus
I am doing exactly the same thing with my Volume Up/Volume Down, I've turned them into arrow keys. The lack of these is my biggest annoyance with the TP2.
That said, I have noticed a little flakiness - most of the time they work fine, but sometimes I hit them and they don't scroll as I expect. Then a moment later they start working.
Anyway, it's much better than not having them re-assigned.
Incidentally, AEBPlus has a cool feature where you can tell it not to remap the Volume keys when you're on a call, so they can still be used then.

Thanks for the tip, i'll give it a go!

AEBPlus works? I'll try it. heard from another TP2 user that it caused his device to freeze up resulting in a hard reset...

Putra said:
AEBPlus works? I'll try it. heard from another TP2 user that it caused his device to freeze up resulting in a hard reset...
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Been OK for me so far

Yes, AEB Plus works (no hard reset), but I can only add the windows button. The <-- (back) button does not work when mapped using AEB Plus.

Also, if you're using the JBed Midlet manager, the arrow keys automatically scroll up and down. It works well with Opera Mini.

AEB plus does nothing for me... i just have a list of buttons I can't do anythign with, a giant memory leak and crashing.

julienrl said:
AEB plus does nothing for me... i just have a list of buttons I can't do anythign with, a giant memory leak and crashing.
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Yeah there appears to be no way to open an entry from the list using touch alone - must be a bug.
Highlight one of the buttons in the list, flip out your keyboard and then press enter/return. It will open the Edit menu where you can assign that button to something.

tjobbins said:
Yeah there appears to be no way to open an entry from the list using touch alone - must be a bug.
Highlight one of the buttons in the list, flip out your keyboard and then press enter/return. It will open the Edit menu where you can assign that button to something.
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ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! lol, I was wondering why people were talking so much about an app that does nothing

Did you guys install to main memory? I had no problems with AEB Plus on my 1.19.707.2 ROM.
I could assign the vol up/down keys and could also add the windows key. It is a bit tricky using the windows key as the first press brings up the programs tab.
I added the back key also, but couldn't get it to work. I didn't touch the send and end keys.
BTW, I used AEBPlus v2661

Putra said:
Did you guys install to main memory? I had no problems with AEB Plus on my 1.19.707.2 ROM.
I could assign the vol up/down keys and could also add the windows key. It is a bit tricky using the windows key as the first press brings up the programs tab.
I added the back key also, but couldn't get it to work. I didn't touch the send and end keys.
BTW, I used AEBPlus v2661
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This all is my biggest concern upgrading from a Tilt.. I REALLY like hardware buttons, and make extensive use of AEButtonPLus as it is...

tjobbins said:
Yeah there appears to be no way to open an entry from the list using touch alone - must be a bug.
Highlight one of the buttons in the list, flip out your keyboard and then press enter/return. It will open the Edit menu where you can assign that button to something.
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Press the entry in the list and keep holding for a few seconds more.
I've been using it since I had my touch hd and it works perfectly and I haven't found it to cause any issues.
Personally i assign one volume button to a task switcher (spb ms3 task manager) which makes multi-tasking far easier. You can then map double clicking to the original volume functions and even long hold to something else useful such as comm manager.

Awesome Tip. AEBplus Confirmed to be working fine on TP2 from T-Mobile (still stock rom for now). I made the volume buttons map to up and down like suggested but also made a long hold for volume up do "enter/activate" and a long hold for down do rotate the display.

my phone (telus rom) keeps getting screwed up when I install AEBplus and gets back to normal when I undo it.

Button Assignment Nightmare

Originally, this was posted by someone else at the following link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=432342
The problem is, in this forum and in ppcgeeks, there is no clear cut answer. Truthfully, I dot really want to assign buttons, however, there are other options that are available for personalizing. Following this paragraph is my situation:
Phone: Sprint HTC Touch Pro 2
ROM: Stock - Windows 6.1 & Manila 2.1
I have a few apps, but none that should have messed with these settings (MS My Phone, Resco File Explorer (has the ability, but I didn't change it through it), Resco Radio, Resco Picture Viewer Pro, a few games, Office Mobile 10 beta, etc... The rest are all stock, coming with the phone)
When I go into the button config here is the settings:
Send Key(Hold) - Voice Command
Button - <Context Menu>
Button - <Today>
Button - <Context Menu>
Button - <Context Menu>
Button - <Context Menu>
When I try to goto any other tab in the setting program, it tells me "Each program button must have a unique button assignment" and then goes back to the button assignment tab. When I try to exit, goto the today screen, or open any other program it does the same.
There are three possible ways of dealing with this:
1. Deleting these other button assignments - The problem here is I don't know what buttons these refer to and if deleted could pose problems.
2. Changing the names - Not really changing the names, I guess to me, it seems that the system is assigning five separate possible tasks to "Button." Again, not knowing what these buttons refer to, if changed, I could have to press volume up to hang up a call and press the power button to send a call.
3. Hard reset - I thought about this, but there are a few places where there have been cases of people trying this and it didn't do anything. I guess I would rather try alternatives before going through this drastic a measure.
If anyone has ideas on how to do any of these (save the hard reset, as I know that), I would be very much appreciative. Also, if any one has any other suggestions, besides those above, I would be more than happy to try them.
Thanks.
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Thought it prudent to add, most of these apps (save of course Office 10 beta) that I now have, I have had through three phones (Mogul, Touch Pro, touch pro 2). The first two never had any problems with these apps and as they are all HTC phones, I don't see why it would cause these kinds of problems in this phone and neither of it's predecessors.

Sorry.. haven't heard a reply, so Bump it up.

such an story,, such an answer..

the best way to assign app/programs to buttons is with this program!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4434797&postcount=1

I was just about to post that link!
OP, whatever it is you're using to remap keys, drop it and use the linked keyboard controller. It's ridiculously good.

'OK'ing and 'X'ing an application from the keyboard.

I find it frustrating when I've been working in the keyboard that to accept it or close it down that I have to move up to the top right of the touch screen.
Is there a way to do it from the keyboard (my old mda 2 had its own ok button). Assuming not can code be written that does the job via the Fn key. Say Fn then X.

you can probably use rhodium keyboard controller and map something. everyone swears by that program but i never got it working. the att version has an ok button anyway.

Of course the hardware button on the front of the phone does "Ok" but if you want to specifically close, yes you need something else.. I still use AEButtonPlus myself for stuff like that, but the keyboard controller would likely be able to do it too.

"Rhodium keyboard controller" works excellent!
And yes, it is possible to remap so that a button works simililar to an "Ok"-button. I use the letter-symbol-button as "Ok". The Ok often works as closing the program ("x").
I haven´t found anything corresonding to "x" but haven´t really missed it either with the above solution. But it would be interesting to know it there i such a function.
Good luck!

[Q] Can you wake up/unlock Xoom with keyboard?

Was thinking of ordering one, curious how unlocking the Xoom worked with the keyboard. Thanks!

I just checked and no, you cannot unlock with the keyboard. You can switch the screen on duration to fit your needs.
Sent from my Xoom using XDA Premium App

Actually, yes you can. if you have a keyboard with the "menu" key (usually on the right side of the keyboard near the Ctrl+Alt keys) it will work. I tried it last night and from sleep, one press takes to the unlock screen, one more unlocks the Xoom. Even without the Motorola Android specific keyboard, I found a lot of amazing shortcuts on a normal keyboard, do a google search, there are a lot, from opening Gmail/the browser to composing e-mails, etc. Just typing on the home screen brings up the search, which is great, and you can navigate most things, including going between home screens with the arrow keys. It convinced me that using the Xoom as a mini laptop replacement is relatively possible.

Hmmm, I tried every key on the moto keyboard and it will not wake it. Interesting that a generic keyboard would have that function.
I really do like the official keyboard however, I wish there was some way to map some of the keys. Its not really optimized for 3.0. Some of they keys do nothing and I haven't found a way to access the app drawer. A bit disappointing.

I think you modify the keylayout file so the button you want to wake has the "WAKE" attribute.

any idea on how to modify the keylayout on the motorola BT keyboard?

Half-way there
Actually, you can bypass the lock screen by hitting the "settings" button (or whatever it is called) 2 keys to the right from your spacebar on the Moto keyboard. However, I still can't get it to actually wake via a keypress.

Edit the /system/usr/keylayout/Vendor_22b8_Product_093d.kl file, assuming you are rooted.
On line 99, add the word WAKE beside MENU like this:
key 125 MENU WAKE
Save it and reboot. Be sure to make a backup of this file first in case you have any issues. Press Menu button once to bring it out of sleep and a second time to unlock it.

Thanks. I'm actually not rooted. Maybe I'll give that a try as well...

this worked perfectly! thanks very much

I have gotten my Xoom to wake up by pressing and holding the power button on the keyboard. It doesnt always work. It seems to depend of if the keyboard is awake itself. I have gotten them apps menu to open using the keyboard as well - its not an easy task. It depends on your ability to navigate to the top line on the home screen. Pressing enter will allow you to see if you have selected the top line (the top line is the row with the apps button, text and voice search, and the plus button). I can press alt+tab to select row, and then can cycle through the 4 options using tab. It is really hard to know which option you are on since it does not highlight as you cycle through. You simply press enter when you think you have it right. I think its much easier to just start typing the name of the app you wish to use and allow the xoom to search for it.

anthony_m_king said:
Edit the /system/usr/keylayout/Vendor_22b8_Product_093d.kl file, assuming you are rooted.
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Is there any way to find out what file will be used for a keyboard? I bought a generic BT keyboard from eBay that has lots of Apple-specific keys. I wanted to remap them to take advantage of Android commands. I got the scancodes for each key and modified the Generic.kl file. In this file, however, it recommends to create a separate file for each device but I have no idea how I would make HC aware to use the specific file. Any ideas?