Hi there,
I would like to use google navigation on my desire in a different country.
I'm not entirely sure how GPS and navigation works really, can I:
Set the route before my journey, then put the phone on airplane mode so I don't 'roam' and the GPS will still function and guide me?
Or does navigation require data and therefore I have to pay the ridiculous data roaming rates to get directions?
Advice would be greatly appreciated
thanks
In order to use google maps you need constant data connection. If you turn on airplane mode mas won't work. If you don't want to pay for roaming data transfer you should search for other navigation map that stores maps on the device. Free ones are AndNav2, TrekBuddy and maybe some more.
I think is wrong, sort of. When you get a route it is cached, you don't need a constant data connection.
thanks, I'll try the cache thing with other maps as backup
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Is there a way to cache google maps of say London on my P3300, so that when I'm outside away from my wifi connection (I have no data connection) I can turn on google maps and use my GPS to navigate the streets of London.
It would be so great if you could download maps for google maps, turning it into a competitor for TomTom.
If you're reading this and didn't know, now google maps let's you use your GPS device (built in for us using Artemis) to locate yourself on the google map. Before it could only use cell phone tower info to provide an estimate of where you are. So now it really can be used for accurate navigation directions, if I can cache the maps on my phone.
Anyone know a work around?
There is software for this. Google Navigator. Did you see it?
Take a look here: http://www.pdafun.net/features.htm
In feautures they say:
Map is transferred via network and save permanently until you want to delete it.
Is this what you 're looking for?
But it 's not free.
YES, perfect, thanks. I'll give it a try.
Today, I took my wife to work and took my TP2 and turned on GPS with Google Maps knowing full well that once I got her to her job, I would have no T-Mobile service. The moment I lost the signal, GPS continue to plot me correctly up to the point it needed updating my maps and I got "Network Unavailable". I have an 8GB microSD card installed. My question to all is can GPS run independent of the network and if not, is there a 3rd party software that will run on the Windows Mobile OS? I like to know if I lose service I still have GPS. I can't imagine what dumbass came up with the idea to tether data services to GPS knowing there will be situations where service might not be available, for example severe weather knocks out a tower. Wasn't the idea into GPS to be independent. I get needing data services if I don't have a memory card; I don't get the logic that says, the moment I lose my cellular provider's service I'm SOL; thanks!
This is an unfortunate limitation to Google Maps. Although there is a workaround of sorts. If you cache the map data by doing all the stuff while you are in a good service area, when you are there it won't need to download all the stuff. This is a pain I agree, but it works.
yes, that is a GoogleMaps feature, but it has nothing to do with GPS - it has to download maps as it goes. if you install other software with built-in maps, e.g., tomtom, you will be free from your networks.
gehzumteufel said:
This is an unfortunate limitation to Google Maps. Although there is a workaround of sorts. If you cache the map data by doing all the stuff while you are in a good service area, when you are there it won't need to download all the stuff. This is a pain I agree, but it works.
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Yes, works nice, used this 'workaround' for my past holidays. The only drawback is that Google Maps does cache the maps in the device memory and not on the memory-card, thus filling up the device memory pretty fast
Anybody knowing how to change this behaviour?
MeCry
Ahh I was unaware of that. I assume then that it would be solved by installing Google Maps to your SD card instead of device memory.
SnittyKitty said:
Today, I took my wife to work and took my TP2 and turned on GPS with Google Maps knowing full well that once I got her to her job, I would have no T-Mobile service. The moment I lost the signal, GPS continue to plot me correctly up to the point it needed updating my maps and I got "Network Unavailable". I have an 8GB microSD card installed. My question to all is can GPS run independent of the network and if not, is there a 3rd party software that will run on the Windows Mobile OS? I like to know if I lose service I still have GPS. I can't imagine what dumbass came up with the idea to tether data services to GPS knowing there will be situations where service might not be available, for example severe weather knocks out a tower. Wasn't the idea into GPS to be independent. I get needing data services if I don't have a memory card; I don't get the logic that says, the moment I lose my cellular provider's service I'm SOL; thanks!
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A-GPS is dependent on the Carrier. No other solution to access GPS according to Wikipedia.
kable said:
A-GPS is dependent on the Carrier. No other solution to access GPS according to Wikipedia.
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NO, you completely missed the point. There is a real GPS in the phone.. Fairly daft, but actual GPS chipset which gets data from satellites, not entirely dependent on cellular coverage.
But he's trying to navigate based on Google Maps, which requires constant data. The answer is to get something with maps.. iGO, TomTom, etc.. Earthcomber is another free one that'll do "Google Map-like" routing and it's free, but not sure it's worth it.
^agreed
you guys are using pretty strong language to describe something that's, imho, user error. a small problem with free information on the interwebs is that, unless you can articulate exactly what you're looking for, you may not find the answer... making you the perfect customer for the sales clerk selling you $70/month data plan.
GPS is different from aGPS(assisted). the TP2 has both. that is, it has the GPS chip that can receive the satellite signal, and it is aGPS capable in that it uses cell tower triangulation and other wifi IP info. in both cases, you'll need maps on your device so it can place the satellite coordinates for you to see. GoogleMaps does this by downloading maps a-la-carte.
like Mesquire said in post3, if you buy independent maps and install them on your SD card (TomTom,Garmin,IGO,etc), your phone can be in FlightMode and still receive the satellite signal with the GPS chip, and still plot the coordinates on YOUR map, without WIFI, without Data plan, without Cell signal. but you'd have to turn aGPS off so it doesn't interfere. Keyword here is to use Your Own map, and turn aGPS off.
i'm no expert in this, and the above is my humble interpretation, but i just wanted to say, take a deep breath, and see if it's not user error that's causing the frustration.
aGPS also includes atmospheric aberration correction data to make the GPS coordinates more accurate. People seem to leave this out and think it is just internet data. This is false.
gehzumteufel said:
aGPS also includes atmospheric aberration correction data to make the GPS coordinates more accurate. People seem to leave this out and think it is just internet data. This is false.
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Best post of the day
i'm off on hols tomorrow (cuba) and want to log a few trecks with gps. mobile data will be off and airplane mode on.
in that scenario will gps count as data usage? i assume not but want to be sure
i plan on using mytracks or jogtracker to track my course. it'll only store gps data afaik but will be overlayed on google maps once i've uploaded it after coming home, or if i find wifi over there.
That won't work, It has to download the maps themselves from Google Maps and the GPS uses the web to assist it.
I used OpenGPS abroad (which works in very similar way) with Mobile Network disabled and was only collecting GPS data.
The app tracked my positions, drew the line but and Google Maps were not loaded.
So yes, it should work - as long as you keep Mobile Network disabled you will not be charged for pure GPS data usage.
And you can download the Google Maps layer once you come home.
ferus said:
I used OpenGPS abroad (which works in very similar way) with Mobile Network disabled and was only collecting GPS data.
The app tracked my positions, drew the line but and Google Maps were not loaded.
So yes, it should work - as long as you keep Mobile Network disabled you will not be charged for pure GPS data usage.
And you can download the Google Maps layer once you come home.
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Ignoreme - completely misread that...
thanks guys.
ferus, sounds like jogtracker/my tracks that doesn't it? i guess they all just show you pretty much the same info anyways
off to a fair few places and want to be able to look at maps when i got home and see where i trekked across.
hope this works
GPS abroad
I turn off roaming data while abroad as very expensive but I do use GPS and Mapdroyd for location based apps. Mapdroyd stores maps on SD card. Some countries have better detail than others. Works on aircraft as well.
David
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That won't work, It has to download the maps themselves from Google Maps and the GPS uses the web to assist it.
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No, GPS will work fine offline and My Tracks will be fine without any data connection. I've personally tried that, you just won't get an overlay but it'll record the tracks. You can see the track later with an overlay on My Tracks or on a computer.
what may happen is the google maps crying "need data connection" though. So you'd be better off installing the brut.mod anyway
got the brut mod.
anyway to download maps for a place before i actually go there? ot my sd card i mean so brut has all the maps anyway
I am thinking of purchasing a Motorola droid with a car mount/media station for cheap (probably around 100$) and i was wondering if i could use it as a gps without cell phone service?
i wouldn't see why not... gps is simply a signal just like wifi(if its free of course) it would be just like buying a tomtom i would imagine... try putting ur phone into airplane mode and testing the gps
Of course, do keep in mind that both Google Maps and Sprint Nav need a data connection at least initially to download the route information. The new GMaps is supposed to be able to work offline once it does the initial route, though you may need a connection if you veer off course.
There is at least one app that works off maps on the SD card, but I can't recall its name right now.
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i wouldn't see why not... gps is simply a signal just like wifi(if its free of course) it would be just like buying a tomtom i would imagine... try putting ur phone into airplane mode and testing the gps
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I will tomorrow.
bkrodgers said:
Of course, do keep in mind that both Google Maps and Sprint Nav need a data connection at least initially to download the route information. The new GMaps is supposed to be able to work offline once it does the initial route, though you may need a connection if you veer off course.
There is at least one app that works off maps on the SD card, but I can't recall its name right now.
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If you think of it, please let me know!
CoPilot Live lets you store the maps on your SD, or so they claim. The reviews on the market aren't too great though.
http://www.alk.com/copilot/android/
There are others as well, a quick search yields:
http://www.mapdroyd.com/
http://www.ndriveweb.com/products/product/96/
http://www.sygic.com/index.php/en/how-to-buy.html
Perhaps others too. But I can't vouch for any of these. I'm fine using GMaps even with the data connection requirements. Especially now that you don't need a data connection all the time -- only when generating a new route. I'm not sure whether it can handle simple missed turns without a connection or if it doesn't cache anything outside the route. I haven't tested that yet.
I've never found a maps or navigation program that I like other than Google, and I've tried pretty much all of them. They're a hassle to get maps for. The new GMaps does cache tiles, though I haven't tested it extensively, and I don't know that it caches maps in the Navigation program (which I use all the time as well).
GPS will lock even with no cell service. But unless you find a good offline map app, you'll just have your nice little blue arrow showing you exactly where you are on a plain gray featureless map.
I placed this question on the nexus portion, only because I have a nexus and it might effect the answer (even though the question is more general)...so here it goes
With the new option to download maps (or part of them), do you need to use your dataplan to use navigation? Am I correct in thinking GPS is separate from your data plan? I mean, I dont pay for my garmin. It just picks up a signal and uses maps already installed.
The thing about android is that the maps ARENT installed. But wasnt there a new option to pre-download certain parts of a map in JellyBean?
Yes, you need data for navigation. You can use Wi-Fi and cache the needed maps before you travel, then no need for the network data
You can download the maps before leaving the house, and you can start navigation route guidance before you leave and it'll be downloaded, but if you change the destination or go off the path and need recalculating, it won't work. It doesn't have all of the maps and turn-by-turn data downloaded, just the map tiles/vectors for the area you cached. If you need true offline maps and navigation you'll have to consider one of the paid apps that let you download everything ahead of time.
So to answer your question plainly: you can cache large portions of maps (several square miles in size), but you can't download huge areas or navigation information.
Also remember that without an active data connection, GPS takes a damn long time to lock on.