[Q] htc hd2 android vs htc desire - Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I am deciding to buy a phone: between hd2 and desire. I would prefer hd2 as it can have multi-os. I am a developer and it's a plus to have a phone support multi os so that i can develop and test on these os without having to buy multiple phones... i am planning to use android as my main os but i am wondering if it worth it..
I have been reading a lot of threads of android roms on hd2 and posting quite some questions lately about flash 10.1 support, battery etc..
the more i read about the android roms on hd2, i keep finding more and more issues(with some constantly repeating):
like robot voice where some people say it's fixed in one thread and in another more recent thread someone else says he still has the issue (and has to enable loudspeaker and turn it off or some say the phone freezes when they get robot voice and have to reboot); that's pretty annoying imo..
there's also low volume issue that i always see in every rom thread i read..
then there is vibration problem or phone not ringing, missed calls issues, battery drain issue, etc... (the list is quite big )
my question: do these issues exist in htc desire sock rom or desire's custom roms (i am a fan of customisation and will probably be flashing custom rom on desire if i buy a desire instead of an hd2)?
My primary concerns are
calls, sms (I will be using it for my work; so missing a call or having bad call quality or missing sms are not acceptable)
camera (should react quick a bug-free to take photos with default winmo quality)
music player (just need decent sound)
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is there an android rom having all these 4 functionalities stable and bug-free (haven't found any yet.. been doing a lot of research and reading a lot of android rom thread)...
sorry for the long post and thx for reading it... waiting for your responses... depending on my needs. Hopefully, i will get the necessary advice to make my final decision. Thanking you in advance

u've said it all in ur post, if android is not running as it should on hd2 (as hd2 is primarily designed for WM) and u need android as ur first OS option, there should be no question which of these 2 to chose.
as for custom ROMs u have a thread about each one so take a look. basicly they all do the work.

but then u have multi os on hd2 and like i am asking in my post : is there actually a stable android build on hd2 that do not have the issues i mentionned? maybe i missed it... would be glad if a user with both phones could answer me

There are many great roms for desire. As long as you choose a stable one and not a rc. All have different pros and cons. Personally defrost & oxygen my favorite. But I change all the time currently running ReDux. Which is the most stable gingerbread rom I've found. Anyway any stable rom should consistantly deliver those 4 thing u want. Can't speak for hd2 as never used 1. But I really rate my desire. .
P.s get a case straight away as camera cover gets scratched up easy.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

Do you want to run WinMo? If not.. desire all the way
Why struggle to make something run Android when you can get a proper native android device? Seems like a no-brainer to me

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So Desire questions

Just thinking of getting a Desire as my upgrade cycle has brought it into my sites
However - a couple of questions. I have a Hero at the moment, and have Cyanogen's recovery - and have been flashing away various roms - currently on Villain 5.2
SO:
- Is there a recover app for the Desire ( or will there be one soon )
- What is the future of Rom development to be - ie. I feel the Hero is approaching legacy status, so hope the Desire is the future.
- How is everyone finding the Desire?
- Anything bad on the Desire I should be aware of ( battery life, camera etc etc. )
cheers all
Since Desire have not been rooted yet, there is no fancy recovery images available yet.
There are already a few of the bigger ROM Devs from Magic and Hero who have a Desire on their desk, but once again we're all waiting for Root. Paul from Modaco showed a semi-rooted Desire and Legend before taking of on a holiday, from which he should soon return, if not trapped by the vulcanic ashes that are troubleling the european airspace.
I have upgradede from a Magic w/ Cyanogen on it, and are quite pleased with that upgrade.
It's so good i still havent seen the need to flash another rom
Contrary to all the bad everyone says about the battery life, i find it very usable (coming from a HD2) and from experience i've found that after a month or so the battery life becomes fantastic.
As for recovering, although i've not had to use it yet there is an automatic backup feature which backs up contacts settings messages etc right to your storage card which i find very convenient
cgrec92 said:
As for recovering, although i've not had to use it yet there is an automatic backup feature which backs up contacts settings messages etc right to your storage card which i find very convenient
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I reflashed my Orange-buggered phone with a generic ROM, and the automatic backup to SD card had saved pretty much everything except apps.
J-Zeus said:
Just thinking of getting a Desire as my upgrade cycle has brought it into my sites
However - a couple of questions. I have a Hero at the moment, and have Cyanogen's recovery - and have been flashing away various roms - currently on Villain 5.2
SO:
- Is there a recover app for the Desire ( or will there be one soon )
- What is the future of Rom development to be - ie. I feel the Hero is approaching legacy status, so hope the Desire is the future.
- How is everyone finding the Desire?
- Anything bad on the Desire I should be aware of ( battery life, camera etc etc. )
cheers all
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Mate, I had a Hero this time last week and was using Amon Recovery and had been flashing Villain ROMS for ages.
Let's just put it this way, battery life is no worse than the Hero, I flashed mine with the generic ROM, the responsiveness of the phone is amazing, you can really tell that this processor means business.
The display is so nice, sense runs like lightning, network speed in my opinion is better, getting stuff down from marketplace in no time at all.
I suppose the main thing for me though is that you have Android 2.1 running on a phone that it's designed to run on, the Hero is a great phone and I loved it but now I am fully converted to the Desire, simply wonderful phone.

Newbie to TP2..Asking Some Genral Ques..

Well Hello Fellows...
As u ppls can see on my Sig...i just returned my Htc G1 due to some keyboard issue..and i m ready to do some nasty work for my TP2 but i need some answers before doing something with my TP2..
1st-- y we need some custom rom like 6.5.5...while we are already getting everything on the stock rom..and custom roms are same as stock rom some of the difference that the apps tab icons are big(as i am seeing on Custom Rom )<---- Prove me if i m wrong about it
2nd-- i m sooooooo exited to see android on HP2 and i really appreciate the hard work of the developers but i will wait till complete rom comes out ...and my main cause was to buy that machine is to use android on it but i need some user experience.....
3-- i want to know that difference between dual boot ..
3a --- as i saw that a dev created an app that we can directly boot android when we turn on the phone without booting in to WM...
3b---other is that 1st we need to turn on windows mobile then android ...
4--i will ask later when i get my other answers
i want to know which process is best like which process drain minimum battery and run android kinda normal speed...i know that its not that fast but come on ..
these are the main ques that are like dancing all time in my mind..Plz ignore my dictionary and answer my ques
ThankYou..
1. Different ROMs provide different experiences. For instance, the 6.5.x ROMs have a more finger-friendly navigation altogether, with the Windows Start button being at the bottom of the screen instead of the top.
Different ROMs will also give you different benefits. NRGZ ROM comes cooked with a radio app that doesn't need headphones (but of course, if you have a CDMA TP2, you won't have a radio to begin with). Deep Shine ROM makes the most of the Zoom Bar down at the bottom of the screen of your TP2. And Valkyrie's ROMs (the one I use) provides the most stability.
Note though that 6.5.x ROMs tend to be slower than most stock-ROMs.
2. You should just try Android for yourself. In my experience, Android was good. I actually downloaded the Facebook app with it, right after I downloaded the Facebook app for WinMo. So it was funny to see those two updates on my Facebook.
Regardless, sound doesn't work, and Camera doesn't work. When those two functions work, I myself will probably be using Android more than WinMo. I don't care much about BT. Look in the Android section of this sub-forum, find out for yourself.
3. Dual-boot simply allows you to boot one operating system first. So say you didn't want to boot WinMo first, then Android, the dev's app allows your to just boot Android first before WinMo. Simple as that.
Ask anything else, but take a look around first.
thanks buddy for your quick reply
well i have Vodafone Tp2..idk that is Cdma or not right now i using stock rom for windows mobile 6.5.5..that what the device says it have Sense UI i think TF3d 2.5...so i saw not much difference between my stock rom and the custom rom..and for the android ques well i was asking that which way is better ot use android like i think if i boot throught windows mobile then windows mobile will also take some ram else if i directly turn on android then android will use all the ram.and atleast runs better for this direct process and drain less battery....thats what i think and well i watched alot of videos and surfing web for this like 2weeks before asking these ques....
4---well for some games i want to use fpecse emulator...so any way to overclock the tp2..becoz i saw some of the videos of the emulator on Hd2 .. it runs the game pretty smooth...
5--App2SD..well can we use ap2sd on TP2 while using android?? <---Dump ques
4. There isn't a way (yet) to overclock your TP2. Oddly enough, Android on the TP2 is overclocked. But overclocking it via WinMo isn't possible as of current.
Regardless, playing certain games on FPSCE like FF7 works just fine. The more graphically enhanced the game is, the more the phone will lag. Every game I've loaded onto my phone (including the graphically beautiful Call of Duty 2) has worked just fine. Certain games are only in VGA, so download the WVGA fix (it's located in the "Programs to Download for your TP2" thread in the sub-section "Themes and Apps").
5. I wouldn't know about that, but if you want to put programs on your SD card, I believe they have a fix for that in the Android programs already. So, see that thread in "Android Development."
thanks mate for your quick reply .. well what about ram consuming?? speed effects.. direct android boot or android through windmo??
i know that i need to test it my self but also want to know the ppls expreience about android

[Q] Possible 3d/cpu hardware issue? Need help with diagnostics

Hi,
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I'm totally new to android and even to embedded systems and new to this forum. There are plenty information about everything, but there are no simple answers for my needs.
First of all, I'm quite happy as a linux developer to have android system. I've imagined it quite different (NDK is without GUI api, only SDK is good for application development and this means Java, not C++, rooting without exchanging flash and so on), but I'm still happy after using Symbian and WM6. The only two things I would like to do with the phone right now are:
1. 2 way call recording
2. permroot
But why I'm posting this...
Ad 1. Only easy solution I've seen for two way call recording is to flash everything with LeeDroid for example. There are big disadvantages - no further updates of the system (android 2.3), some reports that LeeDroid isn't perfect (I don't know that those rumours are true, but I've seen speed complains and some strange behaviors) and so on.
Ad 2. Here I would like to ask that AMT is a good way to do it (I mean "automagically") with below device description:
Device Model: Desire HD
Bootloader Version: 0.85.0007 SHIP HBOOT
Radio Version: 26.03.02.26_M
ROM Version: 1.32.405.6
Android Version: 2.2
CID: HTC__032
and secondly - why should I bother about S-OFF (what is this exactly? I dodn't get it right after reading about flashing), what is HBOOT, how exactly booting works, I mean... not for noob, more clearer for adv. linux user.
Best thing to achieve for me would be rooting (with r/w on the system mount) and a driver for two way recording without messing with the rest of supplied system/kernel/roms/etc... Or alternatively - can any of you convince me that LeeDroid or other "flashing package" is better than nandroid and won't beak anything in my phone?
I'm sorry for (as I suppose) another doubtful/stupid post, but I really need to know what all this means for the phone before doing anything smart/stupid, and the thousands of posts around are not very helpful yet (few days of reading).
I had the same problem, well almost I didn't think about any specific advantages of rooting my DHD and flashing custom ROM, I was just affraid that I might break sth. Seriously, LeeDroid is an awesome ROM, I use it on a daily basis with no problems. For now everything has been working way better than on standard stock ROM. If you need convincing than, let me tell you this. With LeeDroid you get all the stuff you have on stock ROM + many many many more and the OS doesn't lag like the standard one does, you get Rosie, HTC Sense 3.0, CPU OC...and the list goes on. If you read enough about rooting and flashing ROMs than belive me, it's easy. Also about updates, these are available through ROM manager which is included in the ROM.
krzych said:
The only two things I would like to do with the phone right now are:
1. 2 way call recording
2. permroot
But why I'm posting this...
Ad 1. Only easy solution I've seen for two way call recording is to flash everything with LeeDroid for example. There are big disadvantages - no further updates of the system (android 2.3), some reports that LeeDroid isn't perfect (I don't know that those rumours are true, but I've seen speed complains and some strange behaviors) and so on.
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LordMOD's kernel for AOSP allows for two way recording without all the SENSE crap that comes with LeeDroid, if you want a ROM with LordMOD kernel you could do worse than try HydrOG3n MOD
krzych said:
Ad 2. Here I would like to ask that AMT is a good way to do it (I mean "automagically") with below device description:
Device Model: Desire HD
Bootloader Version: 0.85.0007 SHIP HBOOT
Radio Version: 26.03.02.26_M
ROM Version: 1.32.405.6
Android Version: 2.2
CID: HTC__032
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Follow instructions here
krzych said:
and secondly - why should I bother about S-OFF (what is this exactly? I dodn't get it right after reading about flashing), what is HBOOT, how exactly booting works, I mean... not for noob, more clearer for adv. linux user.
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Your /system is currently in read only mode, without S-OFF (Security off) you are unable to change that and thus are unable to make permanent changes to /system, you can make changes but they are cached in RAM thus a reboot reverts them. Achieving S-OFF allows the /system to be written thus changes are permanent
HBOOT is analogous with BIOS on a pc, this controls the security status of your DHD, thus to achieve S-OFF you must replace the HBOOT with one that allows the security to be deactivated, there is a similar system protecting the Radios (there appears to be a backup radio, thus if flashing goes wrong the radio can run off the backup) hence you can also have Radio S-OFF.
krzych said:
Best thing to achieve for me would be rooting (with r/w on the system mount) and a driver for two way recording without messing with the rest of supplied system/kernel/roms/etc... Or alternatively - can any of you convince me that LeeDroid or other "flashing package" is better than nandroid and won't beak anything in my phone?
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I wont recommend LeeDroid, and you need the Kernel modules to allow two way recording so either install cm7 or another AOSP based ROM and then one of LordMOD kernels or HydrOG3n MOD
krzych said:
I'm sorry for (as I suppose) another doubtful/stupid post, but I really need to know what all this means for the phone before doing anything smart/stupid, and the thousands of posts around are not very helpful yet (few days of reading).
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A good starting thread is this one and don't worry we where all noobs once.
May I ask why exactly wouldn't you recommend LeeDroid? I've been using it for some time now with no problems whatsoever. Unless there is sth about this ROM that I don't know. I'm happy with Sense 3.0 (Rosie), it's smooth, doesn't lag, looks nice unlike some custom launchers.
Ghostofcain, thank you very much for quite a nice introduction. I can only ask the same thing to clarify what's really not nice in LeeDroid as haerigrek mentioned, and one of forgotten thing yesterday:
Can you describe me exactly how it works and if it's possible to completely backup whole hboot, radio and system to be _sure_ I can reverse all changes at any time assuming I won't brick the phone? (I think it will be something about clockwork, but I'm still confused)
And maybe anyone can post me most terrible or most often done brick reasons... to be more aware and maybe to be sure it's... safe if done right.
And in the meantime I will read all the links supplied here, so be sure any further posting will be read by me and is needed, but it will take some time before I speak again (busy week/weekend/next week but still, I plan to know something next weekend).
krzych said:
Ghostofcain, thank you very much for quite a nice introduction. I can only ask the same thing to clarify what's really not nice in LeeDroid as haerigrek mentioned, and one of forgotten thing yesterday:
Can you describe me exactly how it works and if it's possible to completely backup whole hboot, radio and system to be _sure_ I can reverse all changes at any time assuming I won't brick the phone? (I think it will be something about clockwork, but I'm still confused)
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Problem with LeeDroid, in one word SENSE! If i wanted bling that slowed my phone down I'd have bought an iPhone, seriously a decent AOSP based ROM comes in at 70-80mb LeeDroid (and other SENSE polluted ROMS) 230-260mb and most of that is bloat I don't want. If you like SENSE and use all it's features by all means give it a whirl, but if you don't go for something a little lighter.
Depending on what ROM your currently running (OUK, Vodafone etc) your best bet if anything went wrong would be to restore with the appropriate RUU, which will put your phone back to Stock i.e Hboot, radio etc. Bricking the phone is actually very hard , even intentionally and until you've flashed the HBoot is prevented by S-OFF, when you have S-OFF be sure to carry out a NANDROID backup (which takes a system snapshot which can subsequently be restored reverting all changes you have made since) before you flash anything which will allow you to revert to your stock rooted ROM. In the main have fun
I agree with ghostofcain 125%.
Paradoxxx's 1.3.1 Benchmark Edition weighs in at an amazing 53MB. I have larger audio files. And yet it still does everything I need- Phone, email, sms, web & XDA.
So what you guys say is that it's a choice between a SENSE/NON-SENSE ROM. I mean seriously, I like SENSE, it does e'thing I need and more, and it looks nice, and I can't say anything bad about LeeDroid ROMs apart from the 3.1.7 Kernel which didn't have 2way call recording.
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So what you guys say is that it's a choice between a SENSE/NON-SENSE ROM. I mean seriously, I like SENSE, it does e'thing I need and more, and it looks nice, and I can't say anything bad about LeeDroid ROMs apart from the 3.1.7 Kernel which didn't have 2way call recording.
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if your a fan of SENSE stick with LeeDroid and you wont be disappointed, but if you regard SENSE as a disease to be eradicated look elsewhere.
Ok, now big picture looks more clear, but one thing to ask yet - where to find a page/thread that compares functionalities of some (most decent) mods if I decide to say good bye to HTC Sense...? I think it is crucial to have a good mail client, move/sound player, calendar, messaging, dialer, sliding gui, home screen with widgets (or something at least like start screen in WM - capable of informing, having status icons/bars etc.) or maybe even alarm clock ;-P :-D. I don't know what's inside Sense and what's outside (or what's possible to install free(ly) in android without Sense) and wikipedia says that all major apps are in it which I pointed out above.
There should be free conferences with possiblity of touching mods by yourself in person ;-D
From my experiences with Touch HD - yep, TouchFLO was slow, but it was also somehow better than bare WM. I used phone without, but at last, I turned it back on just because of missing convenient way to use all of the phone features. I hope not to flash a phone with something not convenient, coz flashing will scare **** out of me (no matter of a knowledge while doing), and I would prefer this situation happened only once :-D
PS. I hope that saying "sense" by you had nothing to do with proximity sensing? (or other sensors ;-) )... noob... noob... noob... :-D
krzych said:
Ok, now big picture looks more clear, but one thing to ask yet - where to find a page/thread that compares functionalities of some (most decent) mods if I decide to say good bye to HTC Sense...? I think it is crucial to have a good mail client, move/sound player, calendar, messaging, dialer, sliding gui, home screen with widgets (or something at least like start screen in WM - capable of informing, having status icons/bars etc.) or maybe even alarm clock ;-P :-D. I don't know what's inside Sense and what's outside (or what's possible to install free(ly) in android without Sense) and wikipedia says that all major apps are in it which I pointed out above.
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If you flash a decent AOSP based ROM, the only functionality that you will lose is internet pass through (that is the ability to use your pc as a modem for your phone to connect to the internet) and the sense.com features but my experience and comments from others lead me to believe that sense.com is still very flaky. All other features are working as in the standard rom, granted SENSE widgets are not available but AFAIK they are all replicated by others, mainly, freely available on the market. All the examples you quote are still filled with the standard google apps, if there is any app / widget you need a definitive answer on PM me and I will have a look.
i don't know why I believe you just like that, but it's the fact ;-P :-D
Ok, to be completely sure, the interface (mean sliding, widgets and so on) is not HTC created or not part of a Sense UI? I'm digging this because on WM phone the "manila.exe" was the whole UI, not just a part of it and only way to speedup anything was to block it permanently. As far as I understood you till now, this is not the case of android UI, removing Sense will have no visible consequences as you suggests, right?
And I will ask again, anyone have a clue where can I go to see those roms in action? Pictures/videos/dunno... anything
Many thanks to you Ghostofcain
krzych said:
i don't know why I believe you just like that, but it's the fact ;-P :-D
Ok, to be completely sure, the interface (mean sliding, widgets and so on) is not HTC created or not part of a Sense UI? I'm digging this because on WM phone the "manila.exe" was the whole UI, not just a part of it and only way to speedup anything was to block it permanently. As far as I understood you till now, this is not the case of android UI, removing Sense will have no visible consequences as you suggests, right?
And I will ask again, anyone have a clue where can I go to see those roms in action? Pictures/videos/dunno... anything
Many thanks to you Ghostofcain
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Not quite, stopping SENSE will stop the SENSE widgets from functioning but a quick look in the market will let you find widgets that replicate the SENSE widgets function, and also there are many android widgets built in that do not rely on sense.
Video's
CyanogenMOD 7
LeeDroid
RCmixHD
Android Revolution HD
iOS, sorry Miui
Virtuous Fusion
Kingdom Gingersense
CoreDroid
Official Gingerbread
Comparison betwixt cm7 v Stock
Now you're my hero :-D. I'm still burried under applications (tons of it, just found VNC server which is a must for a almost-blind man as me ;-) ), but since this is almost enough what I already have, next step will be reading alot and watching alot as I see above. And those widgets are not important. Some may be even quite good, but still - the applications are what matters, even if I had only app links it would be enough with some of them, and with those more important I bet there are many substitutes maybe even better.
You're my local hero now . I hope I will have a chance to get even some day :-D
PS. Yup! I've even found "thanks" button! ;-D
No worries mate just trying to help a fellow user out, actually I was quite shocked at the lack of info on the videos that I could find on XDA, oh well that's sorted anyhow
Had leedroid earlier on my desire, but went for a aosp rom and i dont regret, its so much better.
Cyanogenmod is a very popular rom.
Sent from my HTC Desire
Hmm, its bad. After watching those movies, I think, I really like Sense. I'm not a speed freak definitely, but I like to have nice interface with as low power consumption as possible, but not at the sake of convenience. I've not decided yet, but as far as I watched it seems that Non-Sense ( ;-) ) mods has not quite mature GUIs... I have to google more videos, but not right now.
There's a thread which points out how to save power in which the author says to install CurrentWidget to see current output and he guarantees that this CurrentWidget does not drain the energy. In the same post he claims that Sense drains much if you don't remove your HTC account. It's funny coz I still have this account (only disabled sync, but with sync enabled it's not much a difference) and checked what he said. The results were VERY funny. Sense drains less than CurrentWidget, and CurrentWidget drains MUCH more than Cellphone in a standby! :-D I think I won't listen to this thread. Am I only person who noticed such a behaviour? (just to recall everyone - still on froyo, decided not to upgrade until permroot)
I need to have an info how to _really_ discover my actual froyo before I do a mod to have real data to compare gains and loss. As far as I see even here, most of the opinions are rather not authoritative I think (coz I can proove that my phone does not match).
Anyone has the idea about really good software package (I mean few really tested applications) to log system activity, power consumption, network activity and so on? I would be really happy to know anything _for_sure_. Best would be all in one app to save cpu processing while logging things.
Anyone had issues with Google Earth resetting phone? 8-O i was shocked, reset occured to me once but as far as I remember, i did that time much suspicius things, but yesterday, Google Earth reset my phone just like that (not much apps in background, only "strange" thing was that battery had 15% which is a limit to shout on me to connect charger, but whole system was fresh and steady).
Ok, I've decided that this weekend will be the last of the original unstable software. Some apps can reset the phone, so I hope that LeeDroid will help. Why LeeDroid? I just like the way of Sense, but I will not prefer it. If LeeDroid will not be enough, I will try best without Sense, but not without tests of Gingerbread and new Sense.
The results will be described here (I mean results of flashing), and then some time will pass to evaluate and then I'll be happy or I'll be describing a new try ;-). So, wish me luck this weekend ;-P :-D
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Done. Radio S-OFF, Eng S-OFF, SuperCID, ClockworkMod. Ready to flash LeeDroid HD to check if it's what I want.
If anyone knows that there is better mod incorporating Sense 3 in more elegant, original or so, way then I would be happy to hear about it. I'm considering checking Android Revolution HD too, but I don't know that I will have time for this... (setting up everything again is a pain...), so I need opinions. Any opinions. And don't tell me that it is a matter of preferences - just strict facts like "AR has this, LD hasn't" - I can judge by myself that it's a feature or a bug ;-).
But I'm already grateful to all people that helped me to understand what I just did to my phone. Thank you all .
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Now I know, maybe it's good for other noobs, so I will say loudly what I've read or heard and is hard to find here in one place... (correct me if I'm wrong)
* Eng S-OFF is not necessary for all. It just enables USB flashing as far as I know comparing to Radio S-OFF (but both enables flashing roms).
* Radio flashing has nothing to do with call recording (if I was told correctly), it's just an upgrade for hardware, can improve few things like power consumption or range.
I still do not know how permroot was achieved (I just ran Visionary+ - it "rages" the cache - exploit, but I do not know how it achieves permroot in contrast to temproot - probably it has something to do with mounting /system r/w and changing 'something', but I'm not sure - just deducing).
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Hi again in this newbie thread. I'm not a newbie already, but I still have a problem. And if I'm not wrong, it's a bigger one. I told you already about google earth rebooting my phone. I just noticed AndroidKnight did the same and came here to recall if this was like same situation. Almost. When 3D goes mad, phone reboots...
Now... what I think and why some roms were instable... A hardware issue? Too low voltage because of faulty cpu or something? Anyone can help me diagnose this?
To be continued...

[Q] Suggestions for a fully functional rom that works with latest hboot

Hi everyone,
For last few months I've been on a journey through many roms on my gf's Virgin cdma one V. She wasn't happy with the performance of stock rom as it was really very slow at times, sometimes taking up to 8 seconds for a response to a keypress.
Anyway, I (in my foolish way) said "don't worry babe, there's bound to be a lot of roms out there that will speed your phone up nicely". Well, there are, but so far each one has some sort of issue that causes my gf to complain to me lol. As i stated the phone is on the latest hboot, 1.57 i think it is, so I know there are bound to be issues because of that.
But can anyone suggest a rom or roms that will work reasonably smoothly and are fully functional? Her favorite thing to complain about is that some roms work perfectly, but the camera is useless or it will not record video. I installed one rom that seemed perfect, only to find the camera crashed if there was a face detected in the image lol. Have tried roms with 3rd party camera programs, but none seem to work reliably.
I'm not asking for the "best rom", just want one that I can install on her phone and with a straight face say "everything should work now, camera and video recording too"
Thanks in anticipation,
Gonna post here because I'm wanting suggestions as well. Recently installed Rythmic ROM and it's killing my battery
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I've moved back to Lloirs excellent Slim Bean, smoooooooth as silk
even more unobtainable I'm afraid. I would advice bumping your hboot down and going with sphongle
i think he's askin for a cdma rom :silly::cyclops:

[Q] [4.2.2] PARANOIDANDROID v3.60 | HALO |

Hello guys i have few questions about this rom from WoH, at the moment i am using 4.2.2 rom based on CM 10.1 from VJ, but his version will not have update soon, so i decide to check install new rom from my topic. I have few question if You can answer it will be nice:
*1* Does work properly the sound of messages? For VJ roms i usually use low sound fixer, but without luck. So rom have any issuess about sound? Works fine? Sound is loud and i can hear the sms sound? (Everybody who have VJ rom know about this problem)
*2* Does work the headset or earphones without any problem? (Now when i plug in my headset i always have soft reboot)
*3*Can You compare to VJ rom based on CM 10.1? (Speed, performance, battery drain, soft reboots etc.)
*4*It is possible to disable HOLO - i mean thing like quick menu
*5*Could You write Pros and cons of the WoH rom? Any problems issuess and possible fix or some tips?
Thank You guys!
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Easiest way would be to nandroid backup your current rom, then install this ROM and try it out for yourself.
1 - don't know
2 - don't know
3 - this will be very different for different people and setups, again you are the best judge based on your setup and usage, not someone else's
4 - yes, I use PA on my nexus 7. It's disabled by default I believe.
5 - pros and cons will be quite subjective, read the thread to see what's working and other people's responses. Again you'll be the best judge if you install it.
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Easiest way would be to nandroid backup your current rom, then install this ROM and try it out for yourself.
1 - don't know
2 - don't know
3 - this will be very different for different people and setups, again you are the best judge based on your setup and usage, not someone else's
4 - yes, I use PA on my nexus 7. It's disabled by default I believe.
5 - pros and cons will be quite subjective, read the thread to see what's working and other people's responses. Again you'll be the best judge if you install it.
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Well, thanks, but You don't help me so much. I found on the forum few things, at first i want to compare to HTC DESIRE in DESIRE thread not to Nexus 7 or any other device. For example few things work perfect on nexus 4, not on Desire like Camera. About pros and cons it will be for example, good performance, but fast battery drain. Many other things. So You don't know so much. I ask people which got experience with HTC Desire and have this rom on this phone.
So BUMP please
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Well, thanks, but You don't help me so much. I found on the forum few things, at first i want to compare to HTC DESIRE in DESIRE thread not to Nexus 7 or any other device. For example few things work perfect on nexus 4, not on Desire like Camera.
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The ROM is still a port, and I've used it for a different device true. However Halo is part of the ROM, and it can be disabled. Other things can be found out by reading the thread, or better yet....just installing it and trying it.
About pros and cons it will be for example, good performance, but fast battery drain. Many other things. So You don't know so much. I ask people which got experience with HTC Desire and have this rom on this phone.
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I may not have experience in that exact ROM, but trust me I know enough to help you as I have helped many other people here
"Good performance, but fast battery drain" is subjective....how exactly do you define "good" or "fast" in this case? Some people define good as "stable...but has a few random reboots", but is this ok for you? Others don't mind lag, but might find it good as it's latest android with a few more features.
Fast battery drain varies massively depending on how you use the device, no two people use them the same way. You have not told us how you even use your device, and what you define to be "good" or "fast battery drain"
From bumping it, you could get some replies from a limited number of users. Some saying it's AMAZING / LAGGY / OK, some saying it has amazing battery / poor battery / suitable for medium / light / heavy usage...but you have no idea how they use their phone, how many ROMs they've tried for comparison, or the age of their battery etc. And again their perception of good or fast battery drain is different from yours. You may think getting 'reviews' from others is useful, but I'm merely warning you they can be very misleading for various reasons
In all this time you have waited for replies...you could have easily made a nandroid backup and just tried the ROM yourself. This is always the best way of testing for your usage and setup like I said, not from other people with completely different usage...then you make up your own mind and see if it's suitable for you
If you don't like it, you have a nandroid backup to go back to, so I don't see why you're waiting...
Well, You suggest to better install before ask about sth. At the moment imo i am using a good rom. I create topic to not spam thread in developers section. I have time to change rom, but i want to do it in future. Some people, used other roms and maybe have experience and they can share opinions.
So at the moment few questions:
- is here in WoH roms a soft reboots? How often?
- as i know all JB roms got problems with camera, what about recording? In VJ rom my video playback, which i record is lagged and broken, what with WoH rom?
- there is some issuess with headset or earphones, when You plug into the phone?
- is here a low sound notification problem? Any fix?
I am asking, because i don't want to spend time to testing, i can install or sth, but not have too much time for reinstalling and finding the best one. Few questions give me an answer what i am looking for
For me it is better to ask, than shouting about problem.
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So at the moment few questions:
- is here in WoH roms a soft reboots? How often?
- as i know all JB roms got problems with camera, what about recording? In VJ rom my video playback, which i record is lagged and broken, what with WoH rom?
- there is some issuess with headset or earphones, when You plug into the phone?
- is here a low sound notification problem? Any fix?
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-Yes. A few times a week.
-Same problem.
-No.
-No. The ROM comes with LowSoundFixer.apk
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