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just signed up through here, found the link at mobiletechreview.com
http://www.cellstores.com/r.aspx?Referringdomain=pdagroove&p=HTC+Touch+Pro2+Mocha&c=T-Mobile
for my zip code, it came out to be $200. Hope you all get the same promotion!
UPDATE
i ordered mine friday night at 6 PM, and it was at my door saturday at 9 AM
i charged it, and messed around with it a bit, but my service hasn't started yet. will post again when i can give it a full test drive!
walmart.com got this deal too.
Is this legit, if so I am taking mine back today and just ordering from here.
Has anyone received it from this store yet?
wirefly.com has the same deal. I am getting mine today.
and what tmob plans do you have to buy? phone & data prices? 2 year contract?
So, we can´t just buy the phone without any contract like in Europe?
That really sucks...
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So, we can´t just buy the phone without any contract like in Europe?
That really sucks...
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You can, just not for that stellar price.
Free phone ftmw!!!!!:d
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So, we can´t just buy the phone without any contract like in Europe?
That really sucks...
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We can't, but we have one massive advantage over Europe. Actual plan costs. We have one of lowest price-per-minute ratios in the world. Japan is another that has similar costs to the US. So, while phones here are more expensive, voice and data plans are cheaper.
$200 a piece from Wirefly, got one for me and one for my wifey Due to arrive on Monday and I can't wait for that big beautiful screen! Looking forward to using NRG's rom on the TP2 as his were the only I like for my Fuze.
Looks like it is now up to $229 with a 2-year extension
gehzumteufel said:
We can't, but we have one massive advantage over Europe. Actual plan costs. We have one of lowest price-per-minute ratios in the world. Japan is another that has similar costs to the US. So, while phones here are more expensive, voice and data plans are cheaper.
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Really? You want to go with that? Canada, the US, and Spain are THE most expensive countries for cell phone usage.
Check this out:
http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2009/08/12/us-canada-and-spain-win-the-battle-for-most-expensive-cellph/
According to that post the US equivalent of an $11 dollar plan in the Netherlands will run around $53 in the US (don't know which carrier but yeah).
Yes, you CAN buy a TMo TP2 without a contract (though still locked), for somewhere between $500 and $550. Alternatively, the unlocked US Edge-only Euro version ran about $720 (minus VAT) when it first debuted.
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Really? You want to go with that? Canada, the US, and Spain are THE most expensive countries for cell phone usage.
Check this out:
http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2009/08/12/us-canada-and-spain-win-the-battle-for-most-expensive-cellph/
According to that post the US equivalent of an $11 dollar plan in the Netherlands will run around $53 in the US (don't know which carrier but yeah).
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I saw that headline before, but what I'm curious about is whether they compared apples and oranges--for example, did they compare subsidies? Someday I'll actually read the source material and see. Not today though.
They don't take into account subsidies.
My point was that gehzumteufel said that the US had among the lowest plan costs. Which according to that is just not true.
Subsidies do soften the blow, but only if you're buying a new cell. If you're the type to keep the same cell for years (maybe you're an environmentalist, maybe you just like the model) the plan prices just seem expensive as they're the same price whether you get a new cell or not.
Personally as I'm on pay as you go/prepaid, I always pay full price, so the plan prices are important.
And yeah, the US has the TP2 for less than the European price. I am actually considering getting the US version, but then I'd have to find a way to unlock it...
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You can, just not for that stellar price.
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Thanks, can you pass me a link please?
gehzumteufel said:
We can't, but we have one massive advantage over Europe. Actual plan costs. We have one of lowest price-per-minute ratios in the world. Japan is another that has similar costs to the US. So, while phones here are more expensive, voice and data plans are cheaper.
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Thanks,
But I am not interested in buy any plan, I already have mine with Telcel and it´s really good, I just need the device @ a reasonable price, nothing else
Bought for $542+ $50 tax from T-Mobile....still worth it.....
This is the full buy out price.....dont think you have to be a customer to buy it from them.....but the phone will be locked though.....you will hav to find other means to unlock it....
i ordered mine friday night at 6 PM, and it was at my door saturday at 9 AM
i charged it, and messed around with it a bit, but my service hasn't started yet. will post again when i can give it a full test drive!
orb3000
If you bought it from the US where would you plan on unlocking it? I am thinking of getting it from Tmo as well to use on Movistar, but I don't have any idea where I'd unlock it.
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Really? You want to go with that? Canada, the US, and Spain are THE most expensive countries for cell phone usage.
Check this out:
http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2009/08/12/us-canada-and-spain-win-the-battle-for-most-expensive-cellph/
According to that post the US equivalent of an $11 dollar plan in the Netherlands will run around $53 in the US (don't know which carrier but yeah).
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Good job on being a massive fail.
http://gigaom.com/2007/10/21/ctia-2007-how-far-behind-is-the-us-vs-europe/
No-Commitment TP2 Pricing
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So, we can´t just buy the phone without any contract like in Europe?
That really sucks...
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I asked a T-Mobile sales rep about this. They said you have to pay $700 for the HTC Touch Pro2 if you want the no-commitment pricing.
Hi Everyone,
I was thinking that given the size of our community, I might be able to negotiate group discounts on new devices (especially pre-orders of upcoming devices). My goal would be to get the cheapest price possible from a reputable online retailer. I know lots of sites all over the web use stores or affiliate links to make a few extra bucks; this would be more about getting the best deal for you... if xda were getting anything out of it, I would make sure that was 100% clear.
Does this interest you guys at all? I have no idea how large of a discount I could get (maybe only 5- 10%), but I wanted to gauge the interest before I tried.
How many of you actually plan on pre-ordering one of the new HTC devices? Which one?
Thx!
Well, it depends on if AT&T decides to carry this phone or not. There's no point in ordering it if AT&T will eventually subsidy it for a lower cost. I have two lines that are (both) out of contract-- and I'm looking to make a major upgrade for me & the wife.
So, if AT&T doesn't hook me up, sign me up for two. But, seriously, send me a message if you make any progress.
I want this phone extremely bad. I can't make any commitment until I know it will be offered on Tmobile in the US with our goofy bands and whatnot.
I would be interested if the device would be released on ANY North American 3g bands.
I just can't live without data on my phone for much longerr
here in germany u can preorder it on amazon for 499€...a few days ago it was there for 419....but i saw it too late
I just pre ordered mine from clove..
Coatezy said:
I just pre ordered mine from clove..
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Ditto! ...ordered mine a week ago. I haven't told the wife yet as I haven't found the right time to break it to her as we're supposed to be clearing our credit cards and paying her parents back this year!
I actually go out of may way to be different and yesterday stumbled across the silver version on PDAshop.nl/.be and Smartphoneshop.nl/.be and took a fancy to it - they're the only places in Europe offering it too. I asked for a quote to ship to the UK and was all set to cancel my order with Clove but they refuse to ship outside the Netherlands or Belgium. Then I realized they are both the same company and their sites are mirrors of each other which instantly raises my suspicions ...why would the same company trade as two different competing entities if they didn't have something to hide I think.
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Then I realized they are both the same company and their sites are mirrors of each other which instantly raises my suspicions ...why would the same company trade as two different competing entities if they didn't have something to hide I think.
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Because then one site can claim to be cheaper than the other. Very clever.
Coatezy said:
I just pre ordered mine from clove..
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Do they charge you immediately for pre-orders?
djet said:
Do they charge you immediately for pre-orders?
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No they take payment when the stock is available.. This happened when I purchased my hd2 and I also emailed Clove to confirm this would be the case with the Desire.
Amazon.co.uk just dropped the price on Desire... 429 £ =)
Just to let people know...
Lysin said:
Amazon.co.uk just dropped the price on Desire... 429 £ =)
Just to let people know...
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Much cheaper from Amazon.de.
sindrefyrn said:
Much cheaper from Amazon.de.
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How 494€ is cheaper than 424 £???
I've just sold my HD2 and I've just bought a Desire!
I'm crazy.
Lysin said:
How 494€ is cheaper than 424 £???
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Ops. Sorry. My bad.
ghale said:
I've just sold my HD2 and I've just bought a Desire!
I'm crazy.
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Done the same..
gizz68erz said:
here in germany u can preorder it on amazon for 499€...a few days ago it was there for 419....but i saw it too late
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I was lucky and fast enough to preorder it for 419, but still dont know if I should keep my X1 and send the Desire back or replace my X1 with it - as I surely will be an early adopter of the first WP7S HTC phone
Am thinking of ordering one of these phones. Currently own a 3GS on O2.
Can pre order with mobiles.co.uk . Looking at T-Mobs Web 600 tariff at £30 per month.
Can I ask what, if any, limits T-Mob have with regards to data usage.I currently use Slingplayer on my 3GS, along with radio streaming, use Youtube a fair bit.Would I have any problems doing this with T-Mob(I understand they took the YT app off of their HD2s?), assuming of course that Slingplayer gets released for Android?
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Am thinking of ordering one of these phones. Currently own a 3GS on O2.
Can pre order with mobiles.co.uk . Looking at T-Mobs Web 600 tariff at £30 per month.
Can I ask what, if any, limits T-Mob have with regards to data usage.I currently use Slingplayer on my 3GS, along with radio streaming, use Youtube a fair bit.Would I have any problems doing this with T-Mob(I understand they took the YT app off of their HD2s?), assuming of course that Slingplayer gets released for Android?
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When I swapped my 3GS for HD2 I bought the HD2 so I could put my o2 sim straight in it.. Didn't want to loose the o2 data allowance from the iphone contract. And will be doing the same with the Desire.
Yeah, suppose I could do the same.Just get a cheaper tariff .Or else wait and buy a locked one?from O2?
Am currently on the £20 Simplicity for iPhone tariff.I thought they knew if the SIM was being used in a phone other than an iPhone?
Does anyone have any experience buying the HTC Desire from China?
I read that the Nexus One has been cloned. I see no official report that the HTC Desire has also been cloned, but I have noticed a lot of suppliers selling the Desire through Alibaba. I am wondering if these are clones too.
Today I bought an HTC Desire off eBay from China which is supposed to be brand new in the box.
It was rediculously cheap - 50-60% cheaper than the cost of an HTC Desire from a US seller.
Now I am worried it's a clone.
I have protection from eBay PayPal so I should be ok, but I am curious to hear what people think.
Also, does anyone know of a program which will read and tell me the hardware specifications of my HTC? I'm looking for one of those apps like Intel provides to give you the model and serial number of your processor on your PC. I figure this is one way of confirming whether I have a real HTC phone when it arrives.
Any link to the eBay auction?
The "clones" of these high end cellphones in China are pretty fake. They resemble the real ones, but one can easily tell the difference. They definitely don't run android, and run some variation of Linux that is skinned to look like iPhone/WinMo/Android.
Once you have it in hand, it would be very obvious to you whether it is fake, either from the hardware or from the software, so there is no need to use any software to check the hardware specification.
There is no Nexus One/Desire clones that runs real Android or equipped with Snapdragon. Again, if it is a fake, it will be VERY obvious.
Thanks for your reply.
Here is the link.
I will ask the seller to send me pics he took instead of the ones he copied.
http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=260611334391&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT
$170 US for a Desire!! from a zero feedback seller in China.....id never go near such.
I know.
I am betting on eBay and PayPal buyer protection to save me if needed.
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I know.
I am betting on eBay and PayPal buyer protection to save me if needed.
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Judging from the fact that the image is just ripped from some blog site and not even an HTC press release shot, combined with the sellers score: 0. So no sales or even any buys to the account...
I would be very surprised if this guy has even seen a Desire in person, forget you receiving one in the mail from this seller
Is it really worth the trouble?
I can tell you with no doubt, its a fake one! Because even in China, you won't get a real 2nd hand desire at that price.
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Judging from the fact that the image is just ripped from some blog site and not even an HTC press release shot, combined with the sellers score: 0. So no sales or even any buys to the account...
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This alone does not convince me.
When I sell items, I am lazy and rip images and descriptions from other listing.
However, add this to the fact that the seller has no scores...so maybe.
Hmmmmmmmmmmm
If it's too good to be true, it definitely is.
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Are you serious when you said you bought it? HTC desire for 170 unlocked..really?
Where I live, I can barely get a dumbphone unlocked for that money.
Well, the picture was taken from some blog and the spec were copied from HTC website. That page alone can't tell whether the phone is real or not.
But as I said before, those Chinese clones of high end phones look really fake, and those Chinese sellers are not trying to scam people into believe that they are real. There is a market for cheap look-alike phones in China, and that market is what those "clones" are for.
People, the $170 final price is the result of an AUCTION, not a buy-it-now price. My bet is that this phone is real, but the fact that the seller is from China, together with the fact that he has 0 feedback, making no one wanted to bid on it. I highly doubt that he will ship you the phone, given how low the final price is. He will probably make up an excuse not to ship you the phone (out of stock, wrong listing, blah blah blah), and then refund you (I you had paid already). If he did ship you the phone, you win. If he shipped you a super fake clone, Paypal will get your money back. The only thing you will lose is time.
I took a chance on a simular "deal" for a HD2 and I was sent a small pink noname brand(actually works, my woman loves it) and a FAKE Iphone 3G. Get you paypal refund info ready.
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Well, the picture was taken from some blog and the spec were copied from HTC website. That page alone can't tell whether the phone is real or not.
But as I said before, those Chinese clones of high end phones look really fake, and those Chinese sellers are not trying to scam people into believe that they are real. There is a market for cheap look-alike phones in China, and that market is what those "clones" are for.
People, the $170 final price is the result of an AUCTION, not a buy-it-now price. My bet is that this phone is real, but the fact that the seller is from China, together with the fact that he has 0 feedback, making no one wanted to bid on it. I highly doubt that he will ship you the phone, given how low the final price is. He will probably make up an excuse not to ship you the phone (out of stock, wrong listing, blah blah blah), and then refund you (I you had paid already). If he did ship you the phone, you win. If he shipped you a super fake clone, Paypal will get your money back. The only thing you will lose is time.
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I had the same thoughts.
I will see what I do.
I have not paid yet and can back out if I like by cancelling my transaction before payment.
I emailed the seller and asked for real pictures, why he is selling, what the serial number is, etc. I will see if he answers.
Unfortunately the seller's English is pretty bad so communicating is difficult.
Thanks everyone for your replies.
HTC doesn't sell cellphones in China offically
ebay buyer protection isn't worth ****. I got screwed when buying a PDA a couple years ago. ebay contacted me and told me not to send payment as his account was suspended. Unfortunately, I already had and received a box with a small rock in it which weighed what the PDA should.
I got about $200 back from ebay but I paid the guy $600.
USE YOUR CREDIT CARD AND YOU'LL BE FINE. THAT'S THE ONLY WAY.
Here are my golden rules for ebay, I hope this helps ....
NEVER buy a 'brand new' phone from ebay. You probably wont ever be able to return it, and might not have any kind of warranty.
Never buy anything from a seller with zero feedback. You simply cannot trust them if they do not have any reputation.
Never buy anything from China (unless you are sure about the seller).
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Here are my golden rules for ebay, I hope this helps ....
NEVER buy a 'brand new' phone from ebay. You probably wont ever be able to return it, and might not have any kind of warranty.
Never buy anything from a seller with zero feedback. You simply cannot trust them if they do not have any reputation.
Never buy anything from China (unless you are sure about the seller).
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Add to this list only buy form China if you think the money is worth the risk
But 170 bucks isnt worth it for me maby for you then take your chances
0 feedback seller from China...
I bought a while ago a Sony headset from China (was dead cheap so gave it a try), the seller had plenty of feedback and I eventually got the headphones. They looked so good, very real. But the sound... was worse than the cheapest pound store ones!! Funny thing is the seller disapperaed from Ebay straight after the paypal payment... no refund for the fakes. I def learned my lesson.
I have seen a lot of this fake seller in china, all of them have 0 feedback or some fake feedbacks. Usually the sell all phones they can in a short period of time, and after that you get nothing and they will delete their ebay account.
I hope this one is not like it
It's one of either two things.
You got scammed and will be sent nothing (Which is what i'm expecting)
Or
You're going to be sent a very very bad nexus one clone.
I already have one, and I love it. So does my family, they all want one. I've been asked to search for one for my mother.
I got mine from Clove when it came out for 330, which ended up being roughly $600 Australian, a fantastic deal. I'm just curious to know, after a few months, where people have been getting them and whether they've been cheaper elsewhere.
Also, if possible, where I might find a cheap Silver model for around the same price (it would make it easier to tell the second one apart). All the expansys models end up totaling $700-$800 which is way too much.
Thanks in advance.
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I already have one, and I love it. So does my family, they all want one. I've been asked to search for one for my mother.
I got mine from Clove when it came out for 330, which ended up being roughly $600 Australian, a fantastic deal. I'm just curious to know, after a few months, where people have been getting them and whether they've been cheaper elsewhere.
Also, if possible, where I might find a cheap Silver model for around the same price (it would make it easier to tell the second one apart). All the expansys models end up totaling $700-$800 which is way too much.
Thanks in advance.
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checkout Handtec.com, i found their prices to be the lowest, and they ship worldwide!
Ok cool the handtec shop has the phone for a tiny bit less.
How about the silver one? I found one on a European website and I couldn't read the shipping information but the phone was ~$700 AUD. Anyone know of a better price getting around?
I think you mean pdashop.nl and they say that they have an exclusive deal with HTC for that, but I don't think they ship to Australia
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My contract expires in a weeks time, and I will be changing carriers and upgrading to a new LTE handset (most likely a Razr HD). I am trying to decide if the DZ is worth putting on ebay or not, I have watched a few DZ auctions and they are lucky to go for $100 these days, and that's for stock rom handsets, mine is probably worth even less as its running CM7.2.
I can't believe I paid $650 for the handset 24 months ago, talk about depreciation. What is everyone else doing with their DZ handsets? keeping or selling, I don't really need another old phone sitting in my draw but $100 seems like such a waste of a great qwerty smartphone.
I would keep it myself but I'm also the type of person that would snatch up that phone for $100. I'm Happily using a 3 yr old N1 I paid $115 for a few months ago from a member on here.
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My contract expires in a weeks time, and I will be changing carriers and upgrading to a new LTE handset (most likely a Razr HD). I am trying to decide if the DZ is worth putting on ebay or not, I have watched a few DZ auctions and they are lucky to go for $100 these days, and that's for stock rom handsets, mine is probably worth even less as its running CM7.2.
I can't believe I paid $650 for the handset 24 months ago, talk about depreciation. What is everyone else doing with their DZ handsets? keeping or selling, I don't really need another old phone sitting in my draw but $100 seems like such a waste of a great qwerty smartphone.
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I would say it depends on your phone's condition. If it looks fine then you should sell it. If running on stock make it more desirable, then maybe unroot the phone if that's not too much work for you?
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I can't believe I paid $650 for the handset 24 months ago, talk about depreciation.
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it's more like overly marked-up. The Nexus 4 and the iPad mini is sold for about 150% hardware cost and they are still at half of that $650 price.
Dude would be willing to trade for a G2?
I have two htc G2's, and want to trade one for a Desire Z??
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350Rocket said:
I would keep it myself but I'm also the type of person that would snatch up that phone for $100. I'm Happily using a 3 yr old N1 I paid $115 for a few months ago from a member on here.
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Interested in buying my Desire Z? Its an unbranded and unlocked GSM model which I purchased outright from Handtec in Nov 2010, it has heaps of accessories such as:
Desktop dock charger
Additional original HTC battery
Black rubber case
Authentic PDair leather case
Original HTC earphones and charger (UK plug like all handtec stock)
I still have the box and receipt
I would sell it for $100 (AUD) plus freight, which is fair I think considering the above accessories cost me well over $100.
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I would say it depends on your phone's condition. If it looks fine then you should sell it. If running on stock make it more desirable, then maybe unroot the phone if that's not too much work for you?
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The condition is not bad, like not perfect the rear battery door is a bit scratched but you can replace them easily and there is a couple scratches on the corners and a few surface scratches on the gorilla glass as I didnt use a screen protector over the last few months, you can only notice them on certain angles though.
I dont really have the time to unroot the phone, if it was worth more I would probably find time.
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Dude would be willing to trade for a G2?
I have two htc G2's, and want to trade one for a Desire Z??
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Nah mate not interested, I thought the G2 was the same a DZ anyway?
I think shipping would be expensive as I'm in Canada. But I will check.
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What if your new phone will broke up?
Dont sell DZ You can also give a cool gift to someone
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