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USA Tmobile User Rejoice "Picture Inside"

Got this from a rep, phone looks cool. Thought I'd share.

cool? o.o ... i have to disagree.. it looks like crap. The front buttons annoy the piss out of me.

What's wrong with the buttons? Other than the color, I like the design, very simplistic.

I would have to agree, I took a crap about 10 mins ago and could have swore I saw exactly that same device floating about an inch under the water. Dont get me wrong, I dont want to kill your excitement over the phone and all. But call HTC they are going to make a US 3g unlocked and it will be released very soon the rep told me so last time I talked to him, he said now that theres a larger market over here they are gonna start forcing the US stores to have the ability to fix the higher end phones and hopefully by 2010 we will have ship dates that are the same if not a week later than overseas. (for unlocked versions that work on our bands). Call a rep, be nice talk to him like a human being and you could find yourself in a 30 to 45 min conversation and a lot of info.

Don't have the business or professional looks compare to the original one :> (Just my opinion)
Glad I did not wait for this phone and get the unlocked one. Phew!!!

Justin241982 said:
But call HTC they are going to make a US 3g unlocked and it will be released very soon the rep told me so last time I talked to him,
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ill believe this when i see it. Im waiting for my non-3g unlocked to get here as we speak, but i dont have 3g in my area nor do i plan to use data off Wi-Fi anyway, so i dont care. But if they do start to offer it here, good for them.

Lyian, that's alot of money to spend for a phone you know won't ever have 3G in the states.

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Tmo is 1700/2100 and ATT is 850/1900 right? So does this mean the TMo version can do 3g on both networks? I wonder if the ATT version will work the same way?

Yep, the tmobile version will work on both. My guess is that the ATT version will support 850, 1900 and 2100 since these are the most common. tmobile US is the only carrier to start using the 1700 frequency so my guess is that you'll only see phones with this band from tmobile.

the buttons do not look that bad on an actual phone.
http://forums.tmonews.com/index.php?topic=10034.0
*quoted from their site because it sucks, and keeps crashing*
I went into my local store today to ask about the Touch Pro 2. Amazingly the rep I asked about it reached in his pocket and handed it to me. He allowed me to use it for 45 minutes and take as many photos and videos as I wanted, I took a lot. Unfortunately I only had my iPhone on me so the picture quality is not the greatest, but I did my best to get sharp shots. I even remembered the fingerprints on the recent batch and cleaned the phone off for my last few shots. One last thing, I have the original iPhone so I had to install a video app while I was at the store to get the videos, that is why they are low resolution-I figured they are better than nothing!'
The phone is nothing short of amazing and gorgeous in person. All my concerns about color are now gone, I love it! The phone feels like a precision instrument, build quality is off the charts! It also felt amazingly slim in my hand, no concerns about being a brick at all! It was thinner than my iPhone I had with me in its leather case. Absolutely incredible device.
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I have a LOT more footage and photos. If there is something specific you want to see let me know and I will see if I captured it.
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more from that link.
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Meh... I'm glad I got the Euro version. The buttons on the front of the TMoe device are sticking up higher off the device and I like the silver keyboard a whole lot better than the black keyboard. Plus the big logo splatted on the front of the device is just an eyesore.
But other than that it is still a very nice device.

flyboy009 said:
Lyian, that's alot of money to spend for a phone you know won't ever have 3G in the states.
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I also didnt want to wait for them to get to my carriers, or be forced into getting the higher plan if i wanted it at all, and at the time i ordered it, it didnt look like they were going to make a US 3g Unlocked version.
Also, as my sig states. 3g isn't even in my area, so getting one that worked wouldn't do me any good.
The t-mo version i just dont like. The buttons sticking out are an eye sore andi dont like how they sharpened the edges. on the entire thing.

When I first saw the TMo TP2 in a video, my appreciation of its aesthetics went way up compared to the still pictures I'd seen.
I still think it's the ugliest of the American units, but at least it isn't chromed. With the info that it will work on ATT 3g, I'm almost certain I'll get the Tmo version. I'm about to go TMo prepaid, but I'd like to have the option to come back to ATT. While I certainly don't want data any time soon, I plan to have this phone for LONG time, and things might change a couple of years in, so I at least want the option.

But here's a point I'd like to bring up:
if indeed these specs are correct and the Tmobile version can roam on ATT, that means it can also roam worldwide. Now when we think of Tmobile we only think of the US division. We forget the rest of the world covered by the rest of Tmobile's divisions. ATT folks can roam on those networks and vice versa. Unless say for instance Tmobile UK is getting a piece of the roaming fees they reimburse ATT for their UK customers roaming in the States, then it would make sense for all Rhodiums global Tmobile sells to its customers worldwide to have the same exact radio config as the Tmobile USA ones. It would also make sense for HTC to build 1 version of the phone with all radios present then based on carrier exclusivity disable or enable them as needed via ROM.
Which would mean, once we get a ROM dump of a Tmobile USA phone, that could potentially be the stepping stone in enabling all of the frequencies in a stock Rhodium and/or carrier flavors of the device.
This is purely speculative of course...

I'm pretty sure the 850/1900MHz frequencies listed on those specs are part of the GSM bands it will cover, as it has Quad-band GSM, and not part of the 3G frequencies it will use.

You're right, but the specs sheet doesn't differentiate between the bands.

Release date being pushed back
http://www.wmexperts.com/t-mobile-touch-pro-2-rumored-be-delayed
Bad news for you T-Mobile fans waiting patiently for the HTC Touch Pro 2. TmoNews is citing an anonymous source in saying that release has been moved from July 22 to Aug. 12. Hey, you've waited this long. What's a couple more weeks?
TMN is still going with the July 8 launch date for the Dash 3G, as well as the $170 price point (ouch!) with a two-year contract.

WTF!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omJhBPU-4WY
it has a 3.5MM headphone jack!

http://wmpoweruser.com/?p=5767
Yeah, the Telus and apparently Verizon Wireless phones have 3.5mm jacks. And of course VW forces you to get a data plan for all new smartphones..
(An issue if you're a wi-fi only guy)

[Q] Verizon Network Extender

I assume the Galaxy Nexus works with this.
I had the Sprint Airave and it was great. But the AT&T Microcell + iPhone was horrible.
Verizon wants $250 but they are $90 on eBay? Is the Verizon one a newer model?
http://www.verizonwireless.com/verizon-network-extender.shtml
http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-VERIZON...369418?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item2c6161f00a
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Call verizon, I got mine for 125.00 and it works great.

Does it do LTE?
Brian

circlebar when did you buy it, and what model # did Verizon give you?
Brian it doesn't do LTE.

The most you will get out of it is EVDO.
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The extender only does voice no data at all its a pain in the ass because it will not use your wifi to send mms messages. So if you have no reception at home you still cant send mms messages. P.S it works off your existing wifi.......

This looks like it needs an Internet connection AND reception? Most people don't have access to both. Honestly the home phone setup seems like a better deal for most people.
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It needs internet connection AND GPS reception for the initial setup. If one of the two goes out afterwards it will still work.

I have both.
The one at the Verizon link is the newest - 3G - version. It does both voice and data. It requires an internet connection, and a GPS signal. It does not need cell reception - that's the whole point. Cell signal in my home is terrible. This device utilizes your internet connection, and broadcasts its own signal that your phone then picks up and uses. Works quite well.
It is *not* 4G.
The older one is 1x - voice only. It also works, but I'd have to say that I think I get better performance with the new one.
You can Verizon and sometimes get them to pay for some or all of it, if your home signal is poor, and you therefore may have to get a different provider, etc.
If someone is interested in the original one, just pay for the shipping, and I'll send it to you. It's just gathering dust for me. Tried to Craigslist it, but got no response.
Email me at dlcphoto at gmail dot com if you're interested.

If you need a signal booster for your car, the company Wilson makes an assortment of them. I don't have one myself, but a friend does. When i've been in the car with her I have noticed an improvement in signal strength on my phone. The one she has though is some fancy unit she got for like $600 so I am not sure if the 'inexpensive' ones do much.

I've heard from a few people (friends) that if you call enough to complain, then they will give it to you for free.
I've also heard (magazine article) that if you tell Verizon that you are moving to an area with no service they will let you out of your contract (and they don't really follow up). So, it makes sense that they would rather spend the less than $250 it actually costs them for the unit, to keep your business for 2 years.
I say try that route - call them up, complain, etc. Tell them that they are not providing coverage - maybe they can send out a tech to see this problem on your phone in person(?) and then if all else fails, pay for one.

I got one of the 1x extenders from Verizon a while back. I complained a bit, and got it for $50. It works quite well in the house, and even in the driveway. For under $100 I'd say it's worth it. No way I'd pay $250 for it though.
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voxigenboy said:
If you need a signal booster for your car, the company Wilson makes an assortment of them. I don't have one myself, but a friend does. When i've been in the car with her I have noticed an improvement in signal strength on my phone. The one she has though is some fancy unit she got for like $600 so I am not sure if the 'inexpensive' ones do much.
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Interesting that you mention this. Engadget has a post this morning about a 4G Signal Booster, for Verizon LTE, to be available sometime next year:
Wilson 4G Signal Booster
Apparently only $150. Looks interesting!

I had one of those network extenders, but it was for Sprint. I had gotten it for free just by asking for it because I was in a low coverage area. I switched to Verizon and now I don't need it

Ebay VZW extender
No need for a 3G extender unless you have no wifi. The older model on ebay works great for my phone calls. I can send sms/mms easily. And the wifi takes care of the rest.
I tried like crazy to get VZW to subsidize a new 3G extender, but they didn't budge, even after opening a tech case for poor signal. I live in a known "black hole" of reception so I thought they might be a bit more willing. The rep mentioned they get a lot of requests for free/subsidized extenders, so I think this has been over used. Happy with the old tech model for $60 brand new.

At home I get good 3G signal but LTE is a little weak.
To solve the problem I got myself a second router and made it a repeater bridge. Now I get solid 3G signal for calls and strong wi-fi signal through the entire home for data.

http://www.engadget.com/2012/01/03/wilson-electronics-introduces-the-worlds-first-lte-signal-boost/
The device, with an MSRP of $149.95, boosts all LTE, 3G and 2G cellular signals on 700 MHz, 800 MHz and 1900 MHz frequency bands. Designed for use in a vehicle, the Sleek 4G-V can also be used indoors with the purchase of an optional accessory kit...
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In areas not served by Verizon Wireless LTE, the Sleek 4G-V will amplify any existing signal on 800 MHz and 1900 MHz bands. This allows the user to enjoy a strong, reliable cellular signal even when no 4G service is available.
The Sleek 4G-V delivers more than 20 times the power of a typical cell phone, but weighs only three ounces (85 grams) and measures just 2.5 by 4.5 by 2.5 inches (6.4 x 11.4 6.4 cm). Simple, do-it-yourself installation is done in a matter of minutes.
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sstang2006 said:
At home I get good 3G signal but LTE is a little weak.
To solve the problem I got myself a second router and made it a repeater bridge. Now I get solid 3G signal for calls and strong wi-fi signal through the entire home for data.
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Verizon's 3G is good enough for my phone no matter where I'm at. I can stream anything I want. I think I've only turned on the wifi on my phone like one time, just because I downloaded an app that required wifi to fully download the app.
Going into a 4G area is just icing on the cake.

[Q] T-Mobile data speeds on HSPA for GSM Nexus

Hey everyone,
What kind of data speeds are you getting on HSPA+ with your Galaxy Nexus? For some reason mine won't hit more than 3mbps, even though my old G2 can. I know I've seen people hit much higher than that on their Nexii. At this point I'm wondering if there's problem with my phone or if I'm overreacting.
What have other people been seeing? Have your speeds been better or worse than your previous phone?

I had a G2 previously on T-Mobile, and my HSPA+ speeds are about 50%-75% faster overall on my GNexus (ie 5mbps/2mbps on G2, 8mbps/4mbps on GN).
There are huge threads on this already though, with people specificially reporting T-Mobile speeds in different areas.

martonikaj said:
I had a G2 previously on T-Mobile, and my HSPA+ speeds are about 50%-75% faster overall on my GNexus (ie 5mbps/2mbps on G2, 8mbps/4mbps on GN).
There are huge threads on this already though, with people specificially reporting T-Mobile speeds in different areas.
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Interesting... Sounds like I need to track down those threads and read up then. I just thought it was weird that I always seem to cap at 3.

I'm Galaxy Nexus has very unimpressive speeds on T-Mobile too.
Most of the time I'm around 2-3Mbps. Once in a while it does reach up to 6MBps, but that's more the exception. Most of the time it's no faster than my Vibrant 3G. Except the Galaxy Nexus also has latency about twice as high, about 150-200ms (when it's not getting 1600-1800ms from the 3G to H flip).
Here's the other thread on the subject. Seems we are not alone.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1436279

What radio are you using? and what Ravyn said. Mines is in there, but I'll post here again.
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I'm satisfied with the speeds. Using XXKL1 radio now though....... and yes that is on T-Mobile.

I get pretty decent speeds here in Philadelphia. Using xxkk6
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I flashed UGKL1 tonight. I'll see how it does at work tomorrow since the area my office is in has historically had the best speed for me.

zephiK said:
What radio are you using? and what Ravyn said. Mines is in there, but I'll post here again.
I'm satisfied with the speeds. Using XXKL1 radio now though....... and yes that is on T-Mobile.
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Not to change the subject where did you get the 4g icon?

Update here with some screenshots for you. Definitely not my best speeds, but really good ping times. This is stock 4.0.2 w/ xxkk6 radio.

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Not to change the subject where did you get the 4g icon?
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I modified it in SystemUI.apk because I didn't like the "H" icon.
Just replace the _h with _4g

Here in NYC it looks like they finally uncapped the upload and 5.76mbps max theoretical is now the limit versus the old 1.8mbps.

I"m in Brooklyn and my speeds are awful.
They aren't much better in midtown/uptown.
I don't even break 2mbps.

Recent T-Mobile San Francisco result.

mototireguy said:
Recent T-Mobile San Francisco result.
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This is in line with the speeds I'm getting in So Cal.

mototireguy said:
Recent T-Mobile San Francisco result.
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Man, 2.5mbps in San Fran is abysmal compared to what I was getting when I was out there last October. I was pulling 8 down and 2 up consistently on my G2.
I flashed UGKL1 and the results are slightly better than XXKK6, but nothing noticeable (hit 3.04 instead of 3.00). At home I was hitting 1.5 to 2, where I could only pull down 0.5mbps in the past.
I also tried flashing XXKL1, which was beyond terrible (0.09mbps up, 0.04 down). I also tried UGKK7, which was also unusable pulling down only 0.40mbps and 0.20 up.
So, I'm back on UGKL1 for now. I'm going to bring my G2 to work tomorrow and see how it fairs as well.
Additionally, I'm using the same SIM card that came with my G2 in the Nexus; could that be a problem? I know for the G2 it was imperative that I upgraded since my old sim was 4 years old. Have things changed enough in the last year and a half that my SIM could be restricting this phone?

Connectivity for me with my Galaxy Nexus on T-Mobile is horrendous. I've looked at maps loading for at least 2 minutes or more. High ping, timing out. etc.
Anyone have a good radio update that works well for them? It's especially bad when moving. I don't have problems with my Galaxy S 4G or Galaxy S II (which is dual cell so the radio works a bit differently)

no offense against anyone on T-mobile but this thread is dissapointing in that it seems T-Mobile will never be a option for me (and I was thinking about trying them vs. ATT) on ATT with the Nexus i average 8-12Mb what you guys are getting are about what i got on my old IPhone 3gs on ATT's 'basic 3g' service.

sluflyer06 said:
no offense against anyone on T-mobile but this thread is dissapointing in that it seems T-Mobile will never be a option for me (and I was thinking about trying them vs. ATT) on ATT with the Nexus i average 8-12Mb what you guys are getting are about what i got on my old IPhone 3gs on ATT's 'basic 3g' service.
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Enjoy AT&T
Also, here's a few more screenshots to show T-Mobile speed on the GNex. Just did these downtown.

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Enjoy AT&T
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The 3GS isn't capable of full 7.2Mbps speeds due to no HSUPA so of course they enjoy their AT&T.

sluflyer06 said:
no offense against anyone on T-mobile but this thread is dissapointing in that it seems T-Mobile will never be a option for me (and I was thinking about trying them vs. ATT) on ATT with the Nexus i average 8-12Mb what you guys are getting are about what i got on my old IPhone 3gs on ATT's 'basic 3g' service.
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I'm disappointed with the 3G speeds I get on T-Mobile, my Galaxy Nexus gets even slightly slower results than my 18 month old Vibrant 3G on Speedtest.
But I just got T-Mobile's $30 a month plan with 5GB of data. Which sure beats the AT&T plan with 3GB of data for about $60 (including the employer discount). So I guess I'll tolerate the slower speeds for the lower price.

Cellular strength and throughput

We know how much you like to stream, ahem, "videos", and so cellular data is mega-important. Rate this thread to express how you think the OnePlus 3T's LTE performs. A higher rating indicates that it's fantastic: throughput is excellent and signal strength is top-notch.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add.

Returning mine because of lte T-Mobile network issues

I've gotten better signal with my 3T than any other phone on T-Mobile. Now get service in areas where I never have in the past. Don't seem to have the issues that others are talking about, but enough people are reporting them it seems to at least consider that.

On Cricket which is AT&T. Limited to 8mb download. And yet I got 10mb once. I check oil wells, and drive all over. There are places where you just know that you are going to loose your signal. How ever I have not had even 1 dropped call since purchasing the 3t. I usually change phones every couple of weeks. But I think I may just keep this one.
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T-Mobile is very hit or miss with the 4G+ issue--sometimes it gives me great speeds, others it's awful. However they have already addressed that it will be taken care of in a patch, so I'll give more insight when that rolls out.

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whats the patch and what did they fix? I noticed that sometimes my call drops randomly on T-Mobile.
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There's a post on the Oneplus forums in the bugs section, as well as a link in the Q&A section here referencing the bug and support. Don't think the patch is fully out yet, only to a select few.

OP3T on AT&T
Took this speed test indoors. If I did some speed tests out and about I'm sure I could get way better. But no issues or complaints with data speed for me.
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Hey There,
I was wondering if someone had an update regarding the T-Mobile experience with the new Oxygen 4.x.. I am waiting for delivery of the phone and wished I had checked here first before ordering....

agonzalez1010 said:
Hey There,
I was wondering if someone had an update regarding the T-Mobile experience with the new Oxygen 4.x.. I am waiting for delivery of the phone and wished I had checked here first before ordering....
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I'm on T-Mobile in NY and currently on 4.0 with no issues
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The cellular experience is pretty mediocre on this device. When comparing other flagships, this device gets up to -12 dBm weaker signal on RSRP for LTE and also has worse SNR ratio thus resulting in slower speeds. Unless you're right next to a tower with a strong signal, other flagships outclass the OP3T in this area by a noticeable margin.

Using t mobile get great speeds for streaming almost never buffers (unless I've used all my data) downloads are fast and I love the lte aggregation to get faster speeds.

I'm in upstate NY on at&t and get alot better reception than my lg g3 did and surprisingly slightly better than my gs7

Haven't had any issues here with signal strength. Though often it felt like it would take to long to switch down to 3G when the LTE got weak, resulting in 10 to 20 seconds with no throughput whatsoever. But that seems to be fixed on tge latest firmware.
Otherwise I've been able to get some nice speeds with CA.
Indoors in my apartment:
http://www.speedtest.net/android/2634362920.png
(other phones get about the same)

one question though, i just had a speedtest between the stock s7 and stock Op3T i was wondering why there's a big discrepancy between the two in terms of download speed where both of them had a full bar of signal. any thoughts about this?

RE910177 said:
one question though, i just had a speedtest between the stock s7 and stock Op3T i was wondering why there's a big discrepancy between the two in terms of download speed where both of them had a full bar of signal. any thoughts about this?
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S7 has Cat9 450/50 Mbps and 3CA while OnePlus 3T is having Cat6 300/50 Mbps 2CA

I get better TMobile signal and speed indoors with the 3t than the opo and le s3 (also band 12).. So far signal seems better overall than any other device I have had so far. Liking it.
WNY

sai444 said:
S7 has Cat9 450/50 Mbps and 3CA while OnePlus 3T is having Cat6 300/50 Mbps 2CA
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yeah! but should it be op3t should somehow reach atleast 10-15mb rather than 4mb of LTE? because s7 has an average of 25MB
and btw theyre both on the same ISP and same APN settings

RE910177 said:
yeah! but should it be op3t should somehow reach atleast 10-15mb rather than 4mb of LTE? because s7 has an average of 25MB
and btw theyre both on the same ISP and same APN settings
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i guess those two might be connecting to different frequency bands during your testing. for me my s7 edge and 3t give almost same speeds around 20mbps when on band 40 ( India )

sai444 said:
i guess those two might be connecting to different frequency bands during your testing. for me my s7 edge and 3t give almost same speeds around 20mbps when on band 40 ( India )
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hmm.. how would i know if my op3t is connecting on the frequency band same as my s7? (excuse me for being a noob )
or do we have to unlock some sort of frequency band to make it the same as the s7 has.

RE910177 said:
hmm.. how would i know if my op3t is connecting on the frequency band same as my s7? (excuse me for being a noob )
or do we have to unlock some sort of frequency band to make it the same as the s7 has.
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i dont think we can choose to be connected to a specific band on either of them.
you can use lte discovery app to check which band you are connected to.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.simplyadvanced.ltediscovery&hl=en

5G in NYC Sep 26th!!!!!!

https://www.engadget.com/2019/09/19/verizon-5g-new-york-city-september-26/
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Show off for UN convention, which just happens to be this coming week in Manhattan?

Has anyone tried it where there is 5G? Can they post a screen shot of SpeedTest screen while connected with a strong signal?
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Ok folks, don't say I didn't try. Was driving back from Pelham Manor, NY to Ridgewood, NJ - I stopped in and drove around the Bronx for a while in the Pelham Bay area - Verizon - disappointing, 4G was even faster sometimes than the 5G...
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KruseLudsMobile said:
Ok folks, don't say I didn't try. Was driving back from Pelham Manor, NY to Ridgewood, NJ - I stopped in and drove around the Bronx for a while in the Pelham Bay area - Verizon - disappointing, 4G was even faster sometimes than the 5G...View attachment 4831409View attachment 4831411
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Shocker there. Buying a 5G phone right now is a waste unless you're doing it for the cool factor. The rang me for uwb 5g is so short. Consistent signal is just not there. Hopefully that improved. That sub 6 stuff seems the way to go, too bad speeds aren't quite there.

chetly968 said:
Shocker there. Buying a 5G phone right now is a waste unless you're doing it for the cool factor. The rang me for uwb 5g is so short. Consistent signal is just not there. Hopefully that improved. That sub 6 stuff seems the way to go, too bad speeds aren't quite there.
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Consistent speed definitely not there even though the signal is very strong. The problem is that anything almost can block the signal and they are going to have to have antennas all over the place (and very close together) to cover all locations. Buying a phone with 5G is not a waste now, frequencies to be used will not change (why would they change after the phones are already sold and they're starting to roll out the antennas and they're already set up in various cities, that's a ridiculous assumption), people on this forum already told me it'll take years do even get the test, and here I am already testing it. The newer version of the antenna and receiver is not some experimental thing that will have to be changed; and in Chicago people already got wireless speeds over 1GB.
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Frequencies will not change but better directional technology will develop that current phones will NOT be able to take advantage of. And frequencies will be added as they expand range. Again, current phones will not be able to take advantage of any of that.
At the moment, 5G NR supports 2x2 MIMO and 64 QAM, or two layers and six bits per symbol. But the technology supports 4x4 MIMO on handsets and even massive MIMO at the base station level, as well as more efficient types of coding. We just have to wait for devices and capabilities to evolve.
So I repeat, pointless to purchase 5g phones that will become antiquated within a couple years. Especially since you can barely use them now.

chetly968 said:
So I repeat, pointless to purchase 5g phones that will become antiquated within a couple years. Especially since you can barely use them now.
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LOL I change phones faster than shoes here, no worries!
HOWEVER, where I live I don't think 5G will be relevant for a while like a DECADE or more. 700Mbps both ways on wifi is good enough.
Finally, after seeing over 200Mbps on LTE in places, it doesn't really make that much difference to most folks. I'll be interested when I can see 500/500+ on 5G WITHOUT the need for looking for a charger by lunchtime. Guess that's going to be a while.

cpufrost said:
LOL I change phones faster than shoes here, no worries!
HOWEVER, where I live I don't think 5G will be relevant for a while like a DECADE or more. 700Mbps both ways on wifi is good enough.
Finally, after seeing over 200Mbps on LTE in places, it doesn't really make that much difference to most folks. I'll be interested when I can see 500/500+ on 5G WITHOUT the need for looking for a charger by lunchtime. Guess that's going to be a while.
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Decade. Yep. How about this afternoon?
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KruseLudsMobile said:
Decade. Yep. How about this afternoon?View attachment 4843471
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That's fine but I guarantee you those speeds aren't going to be there every time you run that. Walk a block over and, yep, gone!
The upload is quite slow. And see there lies the chief issue. If I'm out and about taking pics and using dropbox to u/l in the background the 30-40mbps upload I get *not* in non 4G area prevails. And like a muscle car, one sees the fuel needle dipping with every burnout. (5G KILLS battery life!)
TBH I'm kind of fed up with all this push for 5G when there are a lot of areas that barely get enough signal to make a call! I'd rather have solid LTE coverage with BIG backhauls serving cells. Then they can worry about 5G. JMHO of course.

cpufrost said:
That's fine but I guarantee you those speeds aren't going to be there every time you run that. Walk a block over and, yep, gone!
The upload is quite slow. And see there lies the chief issue. If I'm out and about taking pics and using dropbox to u/l in the background the 30-40mbps upload I get *not* in non 4G area prevails. And like a muscle car, one sees the fuel needle dipping with every burnout. (5G KILLS battery life!)
TBH I'm kind of fed up with all this push for 5G when there are a lot of areas that barely get enough signal to make a call! I'd rather have solid LTE coverage with BIG backhauls serving cells. Then they can worry about 5G. JMHO of course.
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Agreed. There other tests I did where the upload was much higher... But it is all over the place (inconsistent)
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