Hi all.....elsewhere on this forum is a thread concerning high capacity replacement batteries and whether they "really do what's printed on the tin"....so I thought I'd look at this from a different angle......
How can we extend the life of the 'stock' battery?
Does anybody have any tried and tested tips to share?.......
We all know how to do the usual....things like adjusting screen brightness and turning off wifi when it's not needed.......
It's fair to say that the majority of users on this forum will be rooted and/or have custom ROMs installed. Are there any system tweaks that unrooted phones don't allow? Are task killer apps any use at all? Is playing with the CPU speeds beneficial, or potentially more trouble than it's worth?.......
Let's see if we can make this thread a "one stop shop" for anything power saving related.......
I'll start.....though these tips will probably have only a marginal effect at best.....
1) I use Gemini app manager to view all my Installed apps to (1) see which apps are running and (2) freeze the running apps that I don't need.....less CPU usage = more power.....
2) I use LBE privacy guard to view the permissions that my apps require....if they require access to the internet via 3G or WIFI, and I see no reason for it, I'll use LBE to deny the permission.....less data sent and received = more power....
3) going back to Gemini App Manager, I look at the apps I DO need, and configure their "autorun" status. If I don't want/need them to start up at boot, I'll prevent them from doing so....they're still available to me, but they remain inactive until I need them....fewer running processes = more power......
(Lol....just realised I said "more power" 3 times.......
Jeremy Clarkson would be proud)
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Hey all. Just wanted to get some input on getting the best bang for your buck when it comes to battery life. Though I've never been one for task killers and battery saver apps, recently I've been testing out a few different apps. Avast (uninstalled as I've never seen the need for anti virus on Android personally), Battery Doctor, CleanMate (I think It was called) and a few other battery saver apps. However, I cant seem to come to a conclusion on whether they help or hinder. Or if I'm even using them right.
The thing is they all seem to tell me different, conflicting info so I can't really make heads or tails out of it. They all seem to tell me different apps are running in the background and all suggest I do different things like kill apps, clear cache, free up memory, etc. What I have always used is system panel to kill a malfunctioning app if needed, cachemate, and SetCPU to underclock when the device is not in use. Now I am on a stock ROM with root and dont have a kernel that supports over/under clocking.
So I was just wondering what any of you guys to to both increase performance and save battery. Some kind of balancing act. And I don't want my experience to suffer, ex- I like my screen bright so am not going to turn it down to 30%. Stuff like that. I am kind of with the thinking that I should just use my tablet and let the system do its own thing, but then I kinda get that ocd thing going and want to have total control. So anyway, would love to hear what you guys think and use. Also, i would love love love to try out tasker but am unemployed and broke so that cant happen anytime soon. Thanks.
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Out of curiosity, how long does your Note 8.0 last?
You know, I couldn't really tell you right now. I inherited it from a friend about a week ago. He thought it was bricked and junk. I just loaded up some stock firmware, rooted it and since it's new to me I have been playing around with it lots so haven't experienced "normal use" yet. I wasn't really asking because I thought the battery was bad, but I just like to have total control and wondered what everyone was doing these days. I used to be big in the android scene, as a power user not a dev or anything, but have been out of the game for awhile. So far the battery seems to be really good when it's on standby or say if I have spotify running or netflix or playing an audiobook. But it seems to drain pretty fast when im using it more actively- emailing, switching to facebook, switching to internet etc. Again, I'm not really having battery problems, and it's a new tablet to me, but I just wanna stay ahead of the game. Sorry I can't give you any numbers right now, but I'm sure you understand.
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Do a search about battery.. there are a dozen threads in the Q&A thread.
I am a minimalist and don't like any so claimed Battery Booster, Battery Enhancer, or Battery Calibrator apps that are all over the google play apps site. Most of the time I leave power saver on, and have most all sync settings and apps set to automatically update and poll info and retrieve email. As I do not like to jump through hoops to get some thing to operate as expected.
Security 360 does a great job with antivirus and memory consumption with apps. You may think that you may not need an Antivirus, but this one thoroughly checks apps if you decide to turn off Google's app checking, or use private party apps from forums or developers linking them to sites.
I use Xposed framework, mainly because of the ability to turn off functions without needing to install a custom ROM. I have been there done that and am not impressed with custom ROM of any type, over stock.
Turning off DVFS, thumbnail cache, and leaving Boost Mode alone as it is defaulted off... Is my primary setting with Winam Xposed module.
I use the app Greenify, Substrate, and its experimental plugin to Xposed. It has some nice features to complement Security 360.
Since Google has corrected some issues with some of its apps, and a few other apps have updated recently. I get 2% drain with 12 hours of standby.
Also under normal use, I get 8 to 9% drain per hour, and 6% per hour browsing.
For speed improvements, I have a 633X SD card that has been tested around 93MB/S and 44MB/s write on my laptop, there are some rated double but are about less in real life performance.
I use TweaksterMod Pro from my past custom ROM experiences, only to boost read a head cache to double the default. This only helps with super fast SD cards, the slower the SD card or having congested internal RAM the boost must be greatly increased.
With online video and media, I get about 12% per hour drain doing both streaming and miracasting to tv.
GT-N5110 & GT-N5120 - 64GB 633x on board, Status Official on SafeRooted OEM ROMs with Wanam Xposed and RootCloak. The only way to fly 8+ hours!
This badboy don't play with Play & Triangle away!
update to 4.4.2 and battery calibrate resulted in 30hr+ battery life
good to read from you andr0id23 and gooberdude. I'm a little sensitive from my battery. since I bought two n5100 for me and my sister,I compare them in many aspects like performance,physical keys (volume,home,..) quality,battery life,... first I thought there's a problem with my battery.I used to test a lot of apps (some you mentioned,battery doctor,task killer,clean master,..) on my 4.1.2 stock ROM.the result was disappointing. my note hardly lasted for 8 hours with normal use (browsing,email checking,no games).it was better on my sister's tablet.
so I updated to 4.4.2 stock rom. things were like before UNTIL i did a battery calibrate.using a method almost like this link.by deleting battery stats after full charge.
I've attached the result.
notice that i have done a full wipe before update and i don't have that tones of app from 4.1.2.only the stock bloatwares and 25 harmless apps and games.this is the best result.the battery was so stubborn to live on its last 3 percent. approximately 3 hours on 1 present and the turned off.
misunderstanding some terms
gooberdude you made it nice but I just didn't get some of these thing you said.would you please explain more?
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Turning off DVFS, thumbnail cache, and leaving Boost Mode alone as it is defaulted off... Is my primary setting with Winam Xposed module.
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which modules did you used and what is DVFS,boost mode
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I use the app Greenify, Substrate, and its experimental plugin to Xposed. It has some nice features to complement Security 360.
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what is substrate
gooberdude said:
GT-N5110 & GT-N5120 - 64GB 633x on board, Status Official on SafeRooted OEM ROMs with Wanam Xposed and RootCloak. The only way to fly 8+ hours!
This badboy don't play with Play & Triangle away!
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can you link me to the safe rooting note 8 OP please?why dont u use google play and triangle away.
sorry for lots of question.I googled them before asking but I gained not a good result.some leaded to good result like RootCloak.
thanks in advance.
norits021 said:
gooberdude you made it nice but I just didn't get some of these thing you said.would you please explain more?
which modules did you used and what is DVFS,boost mode
what is substrate
can you link me to the safe rooting note 8 OP please?why dont u use google play and triangle away.
sorry for lots of question.I googled them before asking but I gained not a good result.some leaded to good result like RootCloak.
thanks in advance.
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OK, if you rooted...
I recommend getting Xposed Framework installed, then install Wanam Exposed. It has a ton of mods to adjust about anything. Though depending on model and firmware, some stuff wont work.
If you want minimal... you can get Wanam Disable DVFS... Samsung's Touchwiz has a feature to assist with games called Dynamic Voltage File System. It seems to be the root of the evil with samsung devices. Google has made it clear that battery calibration tools don't do anything to calibrate the battery. By clearing the battery stats file, all you are doing is a temporary patch. DVFS does not play well with Androids battery stats, and corrupts the data for stats, thus giving bad battery status. Once DVFS is disabled, android will properly calibrate the status of the battery. It may take a few charge cycles or manual deletion of the battery stats file and a reboot.
Again if you root, you may want to add RootCloak to allow apps from detecting root. It does it automatically once you select the troubled app. It requires Substrate and allows you to click on a link to install. Once substrate is installed it will allow rootcloak to function properly
Saferoot.zip search for it in the note 8.0 threads... I placed my copy as a file in one of the requests.
It will allow a proper root without having to flash. So no need for triangle away unless you plan on a custom ROM.
If you use saferoot, you can always upgrade to 4.4.x at a later time without having to unroot or do any trickery.
Play is messed up... never worked right on my tablet, both with stock ROM or custom ROMs
Play music does not like a large amount of media on SD storage, let alone full Mp3tags... can't handle the data or just too many files.Also music does not stop when you reboot. after some time it starts up and plays again. Gallery is messed up with image caching. So I used Wanam to disable scroll cache. I use Nokia Music Player as it is the most robust player that is small and works well on a tablet.
Freezing google music will keep battery consumption down if you have a lot of media. as I have over 4,000 files and if any one of them has an odd character in the name, the media server goes ape and cycles a lot of CPU time into trying to index. Thus sucking power like it is cheap gas.
My sig shows what a stock ROM is capable with just a few add on apps to help get things sorted out with battery power. Right now I am in a fight with Security 360... they boogered up the app with Soccer Ads in splash screens during boot and starting the app. Other wise it is an excellent app for what it does. I use it to clean out krapp that usually is not monitored by other cleaning apps, and to tweak boot blocking apps and apps that are running in background after wake up.
Greenify works fine but you may find security 360 an added app cleaner for sleep / wakeup cycles.
great user
mmm.it worthed more than a simple thanks to me.
by the way you use it in a good way.it s about 1gb of used ram on start up for me.and 970 when killed processes.
I'll try those you mentioned.seems very usefull
gooberdude said:
OK, if you rooted...
I recommend getting Xposed Framework installed, then install Wanam Exposed. It has a ton of mods to adjust about anything. Though depending on model and firmware, some stuff wont work.
If you want minimal... you can get Wanam Disable DVFS... Samsung's Touchwiz has a feature to assist with games called Dynamic Voltage File System. It seems to be the root of the evil with samsung devices. Google has made it clear that battery calibration tools don't do anything to calibrate the battery. By clearing the battery stats file, all you are doing is a temporary patch. DVFS does not play well with Androids battery stats, and corrupts the data for stats, thus giving bad battery status. Once DVFS is disabled, android will properly calibrate the status of the battery. It may take a few charge cycles or manual deletion of the battery stats file and a reboot.
Again if you root, you may want to add RootCloak to allow apps from detecting root. It does it automatically once you select the troubled app. It requires Substrate and allows you to click on a link to install. Once substrate is installed it will allow rootcloak to function properly
Saferoot.zip search for it in the note 8.0 threads... I placed my copy as a file in one of the requests.
It will allow a proper root without having to flash. So no need for triangle away unless you plan on a custom ROM.
If you use saferoot, you can always upgrade to 4.4.x at a later time without having to unroot or do any trickery.
Play is messed up... never worked right on my tablet, both with stock ROM or custom ROMs
Play music does not like a large amount of media on SD storage, let alone full Mp3tags... can't handle the data or just too many files.Also music does not stop when you reboot. after some time it starts up and plays again. Gallery is messed up with image caching. So I used Wanam to disable scroll cache. I use Nokia Music Player as it is the most robust player that is small and works well on a tablet.
Freezing google music will keep battery consumption down if you have a lot of media. as I have over 4,000 files and if any one of them has an odd character in the name, the media server goes ape and cycles a lot of CPU time into trying to index. Thus sucking power like it is cheap gas.
My sig shows what a stock ROM is capable with just a few add on apps to help get things sorted out with battery power. Right now I am in a fight with Security 360... they boogered up the app with Soccer Ads in splash screens during boot and starting the app. Other wise it is an excellent app for what it does. I use it to clean out krapp that usually is not monitored by other cleaning apps, and to tweak boot blocking apps and apps that are running in background after wake up.
Greenify works fine but you may find security 360 an added app cleaner for sleep / wakeup cycles.
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Anyone know a comand line to run in terminal emulator for reset the fuel gauge chip battery?
I cant find the folder in sys/class/power_supply/
fuel gauge reset via terminal emulator
PauloRMag said:
Anyone know a comand line to run in terminal emulator for reset the fuel gauge chip battery?
I cant find the folder in sys/class/power_supply/
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have a look on this topic.it for galaxy tabs but I guess it works on Note 8 too,although it is on your own risk(seems no risk,nothing gets worth than current state )
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2398663
additionally,as I'm searching on batteries a few days,i found that there are different fuel chips out there.so we must do fuel gauge calibration method that fits our chip.If you found that please describe it here.
So guys I now have my new shiny LG g3 and Its spanking awesome except for one little issue. I can't get more than 4:30 screen on time? I've only had the phone for 3 days though so I'm not sure if that is the case or not. I heard the phones battery increases as time passes but I have not seen it yet. So I'm wondering, is it because I'm running stock? I am rooted but have not installed xposed or debloated my phone since there is no lag. But can it save battery if I do? And what are the best debloating apps out there. I tried greenify but it doesn't seem like it does anything. I don't think I know how to use it either. So far I'm happy with this phone and I'm looking forward to the future custom time coming out. Mmmmmm cant wait ?.
Also is there anyway to turn off the screen over sharpning? It hurts my eyes a little.
Four and half hours screen time is about right.
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There's no way to disable or reduce LG's oversharperning effect. Yet.
As for debloating, be sure to remove Carrier IQ, as that does use up battery and CPU with constant monitoring and sending, also, just for the sake of privacy.
You can try disabling other apps you don't use or need, such as some of the LG stock apps and Tmobile apps as well (disable or uninstall).
You can also freeze or disable certain other services that you might not want running.
You should download a CPU monitoring program (such as CPU Monitor) that tracks what's using your CPU and gives you an overall top 5 of process users, so you can track what is using your CPU (more CPU = less battery time).
Also check out a battery monitoring app as well (such as Battery Mix, amongst others), that tracks your battery usage (all uses of it, charge, discharge, modes, etc). and shows you the top users and apps that are tasking the battery.
There's also several threads in the T-Mobile section on debloating your G3 and removing Carrier IQ.
Oh yeah, don't forget to backup your phone before committing any changes.
JustLok said:
There's no way to disable or reduce LG's oversharperning effect. Yet.
As for debloating, be sure to remove Carrier IQ, as that does use up battery and CPU with constant monitoring and sending, also, just for the sake of privacy.
You can try disabling other apps you don't use or need, such as some of the LG stock apps and Tmobile apps as well (disable or uninstall).
You can also freeze or disable certain other services that you might not want running.
You should download a CPU monitoring program (such as CPU Monitor) that tracks what's using your CPU and gives you an overall top 5 of process users, so you can track what is using your CPU (more CPU = less battery time).
Also check out a battery monitoring app as well (such as Battery Mix, amongst others), that tracks your battery usage (all uses of it, charge, discharge, modes, etc). and shows you the top users and apps that are tasking the battery.
There's also several threads in the T-Mobile section on debloating your G3 and removing Carrier IQ.
Oh yeah, don't forget to backup your phone before committing any changes.
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Could you possibly post a link to the carrier IQ thread? I cannot find it. I have titanium installed and have froze/uninstalled some apps but do not see anything called carrier iq.
Thanks for your help
jimmydigital00 said:
Could you possibly post a link to the carrier IQ thread? I cannot find it. I have titanium installed and have froze/uninstalled some apps but do not see anything called carrier iq.
Thanks for your help
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Carrier IQ Removal <----- I used that link to do it manually, making copies then deleting the originals, reboot and then continue on to the next folders. I had no problems with it.
But, I did freeze all those processes before deleting them, as I heard those that did not kept getting popups saying it wasn't found.
And use Voodoo Carrier IQ Detector, as that not only shows you if CIQ is still there, but also its file path so you can track it down and delete it. Keep running it after you finish a section or think you're done so you can find out if any are still there or running.
That link is the post I used to get rid of CIQ successfully with no problems.
As always, make a backup before you make any changes or commit!
JustLok said:
Carrier IQ Removal <----- I used that link to do it manually, making copies then deleting the originals, reboot and then continue on to the next folders. I had no problems with it.
But, I did freeze all those processes before deleting them, as I heard those that did not kept getting popups saying it wasn't found.
And use Voodoo Carrier IQ Detector, as that not only shows you if CIQ is still there, but also its file path so you can track it down and delete it. Keep running it after you finish a section or think you're done so you can find out if any are still there or running.
That link is the post I used to get rid of CIQ successfully with no problems.
As always, make a backup before you make any changes or commit!
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Your the man. Thanks!!!
Hello!
Previously I told you about a way to increase battery life on the battery-hungry S3 Neo (and just about every other Samsung device ).... Here we come!
The following items are to be noted before you proceed:
1. Results may vary depending on your device, your firmware and how you use it.... I did this method on a rooted phone with stock firmware. However, it can be made on a non-rooted one with any available firmware, but the results are not so guaranteed... Give it a try nevertheless!
2. If your life or business depends on live notifications from so many messaging and calling apps and services and keeping your device online 24/7/365, this method may disrupt your life... Don't say I didn't warn you!
3. In some rare instances, improper application may render your phone partially or completely useless, if it weren't bricked! I have absolutely no responsibility for any damage that might occur to your device, data, business or even life..... USE IT AT YOUR OWN RISK!
4. Some apps here are paid ones. If possible, please suggest free alternatives for everyone to use here.
Your inventory for this method:
1. A Samsung phone, or probably any other Android phone (Mine is an S3 Neo)
2. A rooting method (highly recommended) - DO NOT ROOT IF WARRANTY IS A CONCERN TO YOU!
3. A few useful apps: Clean Master, Du Battery Saver Pro, BusyBox, YAAB, Xposed Framework, Greenify (Donate package), JuiceDefender Ultimate
Steps:
1. Root your device by any available method (Just do a search here for a method that works for you!)
2. Install BusyBox
3. Install Du Battery Saver Pro (or Battery Doctor as a free alternative here) and set it to kill apps when the screen goes off.. Put the apps here on the ignore list to keep them alive
4. Install Greenify (Donation Package) and hibernate just about every app you installed, except for the messaging ones (if you use them frequently) and any other app your life depends on. For the system apps, just hibernate the Google apps (except for Google Play Services) and any other bloatware you may find and activate all experimental features (You will need Xposed Framework for the hibernation of System apps)
5. Install JuiceDefender Ultimate and set it on the "Balanced" profile... You can customize it later
6. Install YAAB and set it on the Auto mode. Don't forget to keep it on the Foreground from the settings to keep it running
7. Install Clean Master, set it to kill the apps on screen off and put the apps mentioned here on the ignore list... Clean your junk files every now and then
The results: From 8 - 10 hours of battery life to more than 20 hours, including plenty of time of active use
Again, be careful when you use it... Wrong application means damage, so keep backups ready at all times!
Let me add something else to adding more battery life for our I9301I Beauty -> Decrease battery drain
As the title says, since i installed Oreo on my Nexus 5X, every time i switch apps they get killed. Trying to fill out forms in apps by copy pasting stuff from other apps, activating apps with sms codes and all that it's GONE completely, there is just no way to do that anymore.
- I disabled battery optimization for all the apps
- Phone is rooted with Magisk and all that. Rooted or non rooted does the same anyway. That's why i rooted, at least i get some other functions i like with xposed.
- Plenty of ram for apps to run, like it was on Android 7
- No other apps that can make this happen, everything is clean and nothing that i don't use or anything agressive. Automate-it Pro for sure doesn't do this.
I searched on them webs for so long and nothing, no one has any ideas how to disable this function or fix it or anything. So any help would be extremely appreciated.
There's not much we can do to help with the ram management on this phone besides buying a custom 4GB motherboard like these guys here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-5x/general/4gb-ram-upgraded-nexus-5x-t3588743
You could also try to change the LowMemoryKiller values so apps aren't closed as quickly. Here's the directory and some values I've grabbed from Franciscofranco's kernel(These values are the same as the Nexus 5) that you can use:
/sys/module/lowmemorykiller/parameters/minfree 18432,23040,27648,32256,36864,46080
Hopefully this helps you out dude.