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I have been looking online to sync my s620 with my macbook, but I can't seem to get it to work...
Does anyone know if there is a program or anything to sync with mac?
thanks all
Missing Sync for Windows Mobile
The Missing Sync is your answer
Good thing you've decided to get into this now, and not a few months ago. Recently, The Missing Sync for Windows Mobile 4 (MS4) came out, which introduced support for Windows Mobile 6. It's got a slew of nice features, including SMS/MMS logging, importing pictures into iPhoto (though I haven't figured out how to make it work yet), video conversion, and folder synchronization. Also, it uses SyncML (Apple calls it "Sync Services") so you get the nice "more than 5% changes" notifications you get when you use iSync.
My biggest problems with Missing Sync is that it can be a little unstable and/or slow, fortunately it's very modular, so if a single component fails (which is actually quite rare) it doesn't affect the rest of the program. BlueTooth syncing with a removable BlueTooth module. But I'm thinking that this is due to the unique nature of using a USB BlueTooth module for a non-system protocol. I'm sure if you have a built-in BlueTooth module, you'll be fine. I also have an occasional problem where, while syncing the calendar, I get a notice that some large number of events in my calendar have been deleted (always more than 5%), but usually telling it not to sync the calendar, then syncing again takes care of the problem. It's relatively minor, when you consider that there is an pretty easy work-around.
The other thing isn't so much a problem with Missing Sync, but rather limitations of existing technologies. MS4 can't extract CABs from installers (EXE or MSI), though there are other tools to do that (cabextract, File Juicer), but even they have limited success. You also can't install firmware upgrades, so you better have an emulation (VirtualPC and Q come to mind), virtualization (Parallels Desktop or VMware Fusion) Windows API (Wine) or a Windows PC for that kind of stuff. Actually, now that I think about it, Q is incapable of performing firmware upgrades since it doesn't have USB mapping implemented yet, but if you don't want to spend money on VirtualPC (I don't blame you) and you want to support the open source community (besides Steve Baller and Bill Gates, who doesn't?), keep an eye on it.
Otherwise, I don't regret my purchase at all, and it makes WM5/WM6 syncing completely viable on a Mac. Now if only Microsoft would pick up on some of MS4's features for ActiveSync...
Hey,
got a Desire recently, which I basically love. The only thing that's giving me troubles is syncing Outlook (2007, will upgrade to 2010 shortly) contacts and calendar and the general way to use the Desire for legitimate PIM (especially calendar).
I used both an HTC Himalaya and Athena running Windows Mobile before, and the one thing that always worked smoothly was syncing with Outlook. Also, I really liked the way Outlook Mobile worked as a PIM solution (I used a today screen plug-in called Calendar+ I think to display my appointments for the next 10-14 days).
First of all, HTC Sync doesn't really work well for me. First time sync went just fine, but subsequent syncs put all my appointments of by one hour (I am in the GMT+1/CET time zone, that might have to do with it). This is especially annoying, as full-day appointments, birthdays, etc. are now displayed as lasting from 01.00 to 01.00 am.
Contacts get synced multiple times, so each phone contact is now available at least twice and as often as four or five times (all the contacts get linked into one by the Sense UI though).
Also, multiple groups are merged on subsequent syncs, for example if a contact is in the groups "Family" and "VIP" in Outlook, they are now in an Android-only "Family\;VIP" group.
Furthermore, Calendar (both from Android and HTC) really feely toy-ish, compared to Outlook Mobile. I was used to full-day-appointments being displayed as a general line of information with other appointments being display by time or length, including place and maybe conflicts with other appointments. The Android/HTC calendar just shows me a long list of things - I could use a spreadsheet or even a textfile if that's all I wanted or expected out of a calendar.
Is there an app, including widget(s) that is somewhat more like Outlook/Calendar+ on Windows Mobile?
Also, could my syncing troubles get solved if I decided to sync Outlook with Gmail/Google Calendar and sync the Desire with these (even though I'm not too keen to store these things in the Google Cloud).
Kind regards and thanks for any info anyone could provide!
Hi,
I have most of the sync working, but still get some odd things happen, like no GAL lookup and occasional duplicate entries. There is an app call Touchdown that is worth a look.
I am trying to get HTC to fix my issues, will let you know how I get on.
Peter
my HTC sync works fab!.. I have an Orange Uk .. slate colour !
I have office 2003 and at work 2007.. all works fine .
Contacts and calender works fine.. when you first sync you do get mutiple entry's for each user .. but the phone sorts this out for you ... re the mobile , facebook gmail etc
UK ist GMT, so maybe it's a bug in Sync that throws the appointments off by GMT±x hours?
It's OK that the contacts get merged, I jsut don't see it as desired behaviour to have every contact in my phone 8-10 times, even if the phone merges everything into one.
If I change any contact info on the phone and sync back into Outlook, who can guarantee the proper change is applied to the respective Outlook contact?
PIM - Personal Information Manager, what "smartphones" where soposed to be, what they used to be, what Android needs to become.
I CANNOT STRESS ENOUGH, the 3 most important features of any PIM device is:
1. UNIVERSAL SEARCH
Search of the entire phone (not the internet), search through all your personal data, thru the contacts, notes, calendar, spreadsheets, memos, to-do lists, word processing files, SMS/MMS, thru every native apps, thru every 3rd party app data, anything and everything on your phone (not the internet) quickly and completely the way Palm OS did. Fast information retrieval of your personal data and databases is the most important and single most useful thing on this planet as far as PIM’s are concerned. Not links to twitter, not cool little icon creation tools, not fun cutesy little play things, but real world useful things.
2. UNIVERSAL CUT/COPY & PASTE
The ability to copy an address or sentence out of a text message or email, (not the entire message, only the portion you need) and paste it into a contact, or paste it into a memo or task field, or it into Google maps. Or Copy part of a to-do list item and paste it into a spreadsheet, or copy a value out of a spreadsheet cell and paste it into an email etc.
3. DESKTOP APPLICATION to sync with.
A desktop application to sync with, to back up all your PIM information (contacts, calendar, to-do lists, memos, wordprocessing files, spreadsheet files etc, to your PC and vice/versa (without being forced to use Outlook). Not syncing to “the cloud”, I don’t want all my personal info spread out all over the internet for who knows who to snoop through. I want my personal info on my phone and my desktop PC only. A Desktop application to be able to do the bulk of your data entry from your PC then syncing it to your phone instead of having to type out and tons of personal data, such as useful formulas, extensive notes about people, long letters or ebooks you want to cut and paste into your desktop app so you can sync it to your phone so you can read it on the road at your leasure without trying to type all that data into your little touch screen pad. To be able to look up information and data stored on my phone without not having to wait on a slow connection as it stores and retrieves from the cloud. And to be able to look up the same information on my desktop app when I can’t find my phone. To backup my data or retrieve it without being dependant an internet connection. When I lose my old phone, I want to be able to sync the new phone to my Desktop application had have all my personal info and data files loaded on to my new phone putting me right back in business without skipping a beat.
Primary PIM Apps to be fully intergreated with each other on the phone and on the Desktop are:
* Calendar/Scheduler/with very flexible alarms (i.e. repeat every third Thursday etc.). Should have Day/Week/Month/Year views.
* Contacts/Addresses/People that will show the long names on the screen when you select it.
* To Do List (KISS applies here, just need to easily slide line items up and down on the priority list and/or give it a changeable priority level, and to be able to attach longer notes if need be)
* Memo/Notes/Flash Cards to store anything and everything you think to write down to take note down, any thought, idea, note, comment, list of items, what someone said – Any and all inputs instantly retrievable by the “Universal Search”.
* Media/Pictures/Video/Music sync between desktop and device.
* Third party attachment handler (to automatically sync spreadsheet files for instance).
Store, Retrieve, and Manage/Manipulate Personal Information, that’s what Personal Information Managers (PIMs) are for. Not for doing animated gifs or other cutesy time wasters.
This is something the Twit(ers) writing software today don’t understand, not everyone has the luxury of laying around drinking soda pop and twittering each other all day, most of us need to actually get some work done in the real world. To manage and access personal information as well as internet info.
I would have switched from Palm OS to iPhone a couple years ago but the iPhone had no universal search or universal copy/paste at the time which made the iPhone worthless game machine to me. So I stayed with Palm. Now that Palm OS is being replaced with WebOS, I see now that the “new blood” writing the new Palm WebOS software left out the 3 most important things, the very things that made Palm great to begin with. So I bought a Droid Incredible, it falls flat on it’s face as a PIM, now I am back to carrying two devices a Palm OS for an actual working PIM, and a Droid for all the other “cool” stuff. Don’t get me wrong, I love the Droid but it would be nice to get them back into one device again. The industry sometimes goes backwards instead of forwards. Now I see that Apple finally caught up to Palm by including a universal search and copy/paste into the iPhone finally, Android needs to catch up to Palm OS also, in a hurry, otherwise I may have to sidestep to an iphone when my one year contract is up.
PalmOS had a much more precise touch screen, all you had to do to select text was touch your fingernail, pen, or stylist to the letter you wanted to start with and drag to the end point to highlight the text you want, and then hit Menu/Copy. The new Johnny-come-lately touch screen phones do not have a precise way to select text directly, though the iPhone has come up with a good workaround for this, it’s not quite as fast and easy as the PalmOS but just as accurate at selecting only what you want, and it is universal just like the Palm.
If and when iambic ports Agendus to the Android OS it will be a great day for Android users, but the MOST IMPORTANT thing is we still need universal search & copy/paste across all 3-party applications. When I was a palm user I didn’t see the need for Agendus (a very robust PIM) because it seemed redundant on the Palm, but I could see the need for it on other platforms such as Windows devices, iPhone, BlackBerry etc. Now that I am a Droid user I see the need for Agendus for the Android. Agendus is starting to sound like a great Idea, a robust PIM application that can be ported to any new phone platform that comes out, that way you learn one app and keep it with you across platforms as the phone market keeps changing.
I'm coming from a Nokia 5800. Although the software was buggy as hell, Ovi Suite was still a great piece of software to sync all of my phone's data to a local copy of my PC (as opposed to Google's nosy cloud storage).
Ideally looking for something that could archive my contacts--as well as abilities to create/change/delete on my PC which would then sync with the phone. Also download all SMS's, photos/videos taken, and manage music.
If what I've read is true, google music should take care of this, its supposedly an itunes-like software
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Check out Double Twist. There is PC software and an app. Not sure if it would cover all your needs (ive never used it), but it appears to be a decent itunes clone for not just Android but other devices.
theres an app callled mybackup in the market. it will back everything up to the sdcard, then u can copy backup to pc if this helps.
Since people aren't too familiar with Ovi Suite: I need something like Palm Desktop for Android, and I don't want to pay $40 for CompanionLink.
Dude, you need to learn to love the cloud.
From GMail/GMaps/GVoice/GDocks/GCal/Picassa, I have every email, sms, voicememo, picture, video, call history, transcribed voicemail, task, appointment, map location, contact, document, etc. All from any webbrowser in any location, all damn-near instantly synced with my phone.
...but to answer you question, search for HTC Sync. I think it only works with Sense tho, so you will have to wait and flash the Z firmware once the hackers make the g2 flashable.
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Dude, I love the cloud.
But I also love having a local copy on my computers (which I back up regularly and save to my Dropbox). Being able to edit contacts and calendar entries without having to bring up a webpage is huge to me.
Different strokes for different folks I guess.
I live and work on the cloud. I never run any backups. I store nothing locally other than 4TB of pirated moves/tv. Being able to access everything from anywhere even if my house has no electricity is huge to me.
What's so bad about opening up a webpage? Opening outlook or whatever doesn't seem any different to me. Unless I am using my computer as a TV, all I ever need from it is a webbrowser, which is nice since every computer and smartphone in the world has one.
I do program ASP.NET/Win32/other and need that dev environment, but that too is all running on a VirtualPC in the cloud.
Not all of us always have constant data access, nor want to depend on it.
Plus, the difference between a webpage and outlook is MASSIVE.
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I know this is a pointless argument, but I am curious if you have ever given gmail with gtalk-desktop in your tray a real chance?
I used outlook at a job for work and personal for 6 years, then used outlook for work another 5 while using gmail for personal, and for the last 2 I have been gmail only. I always had the newest version on the newest os, but not in the last 2 years.
In outlook I was always sorting and running a search all was always dog slow. I can find anything in gmail as easily as finding any webpage with google. Gmail integrates with google calendar just as well as outlook and they can sync to eachother. Just sayin.
...anyway, did you look in to HTC Sync? Also, you could always run an exchange server at home and sync over the air.
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I'd probably choose services that keep the home PC synced with the cloud, keeping a local copy of what GMail etc use. Enough people do that that there are tools for that, and of course your phone syncs easily with the cloud. I think enough Android users drink the Google kool aid that there's not as much interest in syncing directly phone to PC without using the cloud as an intermediary. After years of wired syncing, I'm thrilled to have it work without any work on my part, personally.
But a search did turn up both The Missing Sync for Android and Handset Manager - both look to still be a bit buggy, but maybe they'll do the job or be worth watching.
We need HTC to make HTC Sync for non-Sense phones. Period.
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Different strokes for different folks I guess.
I live and work on the cloud. I never run any backups. I store nothing locally other than 4TB of pirated moves/tv. Being able to access everything from anywhere even if my house has no electricity is huge to me.
What's so bad about opening up a webpage? Opening outlook or whatever doesn't seem any different to me. Unless I am using my computer as a TV, all I ever need from it is a webbrowser, which is nice since every computer and smartphone in the world has one.
I do program ASP.NET/Win32/other and need that dev environment, but that too is all running on a VirtualPC in the cloud.
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Totally agree, That's the only way to go, really. When I moved up from my Moto Cliq to the G2 it took all of 5 minutes to get my phone the way I wanted. The hardest part was customizing my icon on the home screen. The data all synced from Google. My list of installed apps was backed up via "App List Backup" and I just re-installed them. Done.
So, thanks to a combination of dissatisfaction with AT&T and a desire to escape Apple's deathgrip, I've switched to Verizon and bought myself a shiny new Galaxy Nexus. Amazon has informed me that the phone will be in my grubby little paws by tomorrow evening, which is awesome; but now I have to port over everything that I've stored via Apple's methods for the last 4 years, which is less awesome.
So what's the best way to do this? I will be rooting the GN almost literally right out of the box, and while I haven't had a Android phone before, I have a Nook Color that I've used to run (via uSD) Nookie Froyo, CM7, and a pre-alpha of ICS/CM9, all of which I've synced with added GApps at least once. My primary Google account (I have two) has almost no contacts, so if at all possible, I'd prefer to overwrite that entirely with my Apple/iPhone contacts. And although I know it's highly unlikely, if there's a way to copy over SMS/MMS history I would be in heaven. I'd also like to copy as much of my music, pics, and videos (~25GB total) out of iTunes and iPhoto as I can, although if there's a way to sync Android with either, that'd be swell.
FWIW, I have both a Mac and a Win7 box, so I can use either or both for any of these processes.
zombieflanders said:
So, thanks to a combination of dissatisfaction with AT&T and a desire to escape Apple's deathgrip, I've switched to Verizon and bought myself a shiny new Galaxy Nexus. Amazon has informed me that the phone will be in my grubby little paws by tomorrow evening, which is awesome; but now I have to port over everything that I've stored via Apple's methods for the last 4 years, which is less awesome.
So what's the best way to do this? I will be rooting the GN almost literally right out of the box, and while I haven't had a Android phone before, I have a Nook Color that I've used to run (via uSD) Nookie Froyo, CM7, and a pre-alpha of ICS/CM9, all of which I've synced with added GApps at least once. My primary Google account (I have two) has almost no contacts, so if at all possible, I'd prefer to overwrite that entirely with my Apple/iPhone contacts. And although I know it's highly unlikely, if there's a way to copy over SMS/MMS history I would be in heaven. I'd also like to copy as much of my music, pics, and videos (~25GB total) out of iTunes and iPhoto as I can, although if there's a way to sync Android with either, that'd be swell.
FWIW, I have both a Mac and a Win7 box, so I can use either or both for any of these processes.
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In iTunes you can specify a Google account to sync with. See here. You'll have to pull your other data off and sync it with the phone through MTP using your Windows 7 machine or the Android File Transfer utility on the Mac.
You might want to take a look at using Picasa Web and Google Music for your music and pictures. Works for myself.
Just follow these instructions to setup google contact sync on the iPhone:
http://support.google.com/mobile/bin/answer.py?hl=en&topic=14252&answer=138740
When you activate your Nexus and put in your gmail information, you will automagically have your contacts.
Okay, synced and merged the Google contacts in 5 minutes flat. Thanks for the help, I think I'm looking good there. I am worried about things being overwritten by Facebook integration (which almost happened to my mom when she went from an iPhone 3G to a Bionic), but is that not a concern with the GN/ICS? And if I copied over all the contact info from my primary Google account to my secondary account, would it avoid dupes?
As for the music, I've been a member of Google Music since the beta, but the last time it synced with iTunes things got a little messed up (i.e., incorrect tags/ID3, missing artwork, etc). Could I blow my GM library away and start anew without running into storage or bandwidth issues? And could I set it up so that every time it syncs with iTunes it downloads a copy to the phone, or at least notifies me?
Thanks for the help, sorry if it's too many questions.
ETA: And here's another. Does this method/app(s) for SMS/MMS backup seem legit? I would love it if this worked too, since that would take care of the last of my major concerns.
I've got two kids, ages 6 and 8, and we keep their screen time limited, but they love audiobooks and for the past few years we have bought them cheap mp3 players and loaded audiobooks on them from the library using the Overdrive app on a pc which then syncs the mp3s to the mp3 player. However, Overdrive has been discontinued and is likely to be fully killed off sometime in 2023 (no doubt thanks to pressure from the publishing industry) whereupon the only way to get audiobooks from the library will be through the Libby app, but this of course requires an internet connected device. For obvious reasons I don't want to just give my kids an Android phone with access to Youtube, social media, etc. I have played around with LineageOS to breath fresh life into an old Kindle tablet and various older phones, so I'm thinking perhaps picking up some cheap old Moto phones and loading them up with LineageOS would be an option, but I'd want to strip out some of the functionality and remove the web browser, phone and sms, and basically just have a camera, Libby app, k9 email client, and if possible voice recognition. presumably Libby and k9 mail could be sideloaded. Not sure about voice recognition, but it seems like maybe Gapps pico or microG might offer a way to implement google voice recognition? But is it possible to have voice recognition without having the play store? As far as removing the browser, it appears that LOSdiet should work for that purpose.
Anyone embarked on a similar task?
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Why can't you use a guest account?
While I suppose using the Guest feature on a stock Android device might be an option, I'd prefer not to go down that route for a few reasons. First, it seems like it's mostly designed as a temporary option for loaning a phone to a friend, not as a permanent function, and I am afraid it would be easy to accidentally delete all the contents of the guest account which would result in a very unhappy kid. Second, if they know it can do all the things a "real" phone can do and they're just locked out of doing them, that will make them much more prone to nagging us to install random junky games and apps and fiddling around trying to access the main account. I'd prefer if it just wasn't an option at all.
Maybe try it out before you reject it.
Google Family Link
Yes, I have also the combination of google family link and LOS and IF it is working, it is working really great!
On some systems, you need to have two user profiles on the device, as the children account alone would lead to an FRP lock , at least on S4 and S5 neo.
I got it one time working by adding first the parents account and then afterwards adding the children account. In Settings, enable multi user and then add a PIN (or whatever) to prevent access to your account from the one your child is using.