Creating a SPV Digital Camera driver for the XDA - Windows Mobile Software Development

The digital camera attachment that comes with the SPV Smartphone fits into the XDA. The next step is going to be to write a driver for it. Some poking around with the port should reveal something.
I would expect the camera to be returning a constant stream of data in a strange format which I would then have to interpret. Does anyone know what this format may be? Has anyone tried anything ilke this before?

i noticed palm also have a camera for the sd/mmc slot, wonder whether this could be used for the xda..

Somebody might want to try the downloadable drivers for the XDA's Camera, found at: http://www.gaborvision.com.tw/
Gear

Probably not the right sort of driver as this cam uses the SD interface (NB /not/ SDIO), rather than the expansion port. Incidentally, this cam's not too bad, and the s/w is excellent.

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Is it possible to disable the camera in a IIs?

Our team has recently purchased some XDA IIs devices and we have just found out that the security people don't like us carrying around camera enabled devices.
Is it possible to disable the camera so that even is the user does a hard reset they still can't use the camera?
Not a good idea I know, we don't like it much either. But it is either that or give up the devices.
Can anyone help?
take a look in the windows\startup folder, there is one link the that is supposed to initialize camera.
or:
overwrite or delete camera.exe that is the program that communicates with th cam hardware
You can buy Siemens SX66, it has no camera.
You can disable camera by editing registry and deleting [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Drivers\BuiltIn\Camera] key, flashing SX66 ROM or my cooked 1.33.51 ROM. These ROMs does not have builtin camera app. But the camera program still can be installed by user or device can be reflashed with a correct ROM. The only 100% working method is to disassemble the device and physically disconnect camera.

PDA2K camera as WebCam

Hello,
can i use my pda2k cam as webcam ??
Thanks in advance for your replies...
No. I have read threads on this before (like on other forums I think) 'cos I got sick of carryin so many devices. It would be wicked if it could but I think the problem lies in the fact that the USB connection isn't quick enough.
I'm sure my SE P800 worked as a webcam :\ Perhaps I'm imaining things.
There is a way to make your Blue Angel work similar to a web cam. The program uploads a new image every x seconds to an FTP server using the integrated camera software.
You can create your own solution such as an HTML page that refreshes periodically to update the image. I think the software supplying a sample file. However, you cannot obtain a true live webcam experience.
If you need the software, PM me or I'll try attaching it here.
mike freegan said:
I'm sure my SE P800 worked as a webcam :\ Perhaps I'm imaining things.
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I got a USB camera for my girlfriend. You can get enough throughput from USB to support 640x480, but USB really does have to be at full throttle then. Anything more (like DV) and you're way out of the region USB can handle. You might well have managed it on your phone.
I can't see any reason why the Qtek 9090 *couldn't* support that, but I'm thinking it's a problem with how Pocket PCs are made accessible by Windows. I very much doubt the default ActiveSync drivers have an interface for it, and I don't really see the market for writing your own PPC driver for what is a niche request, especially when you can get very good web cams like the Logitech Quickcam 4000 for 60 quid.
Chris
I got several requests to send the software I used for webcam on PPC.
There are 2 programs I saw. One I tried and the other I didn't.
The program I tried is called Webcam for Pocket PC (PpcWebcam.zip) and its free. The other one is (MobileHomeCamPPC.exe).
I recommend you try the first one first, and it works great.
I attached the 2 files in one zip file.
The download page for PpcWebcam is http://www.zone1.de/latest.html and I guess there's a newer version but I provided a 100%-working one.
i get an error saying its not a valid win32 application, how do i get round this?? :?:
run
you must run the program in ppc NOT IN PC
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indra9110 said:
you must run the program in ppc NOT IN PC
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Sure, unless it's a setup file that installs thru ActiveSync.
try this one.... :wink:
RAGO :lol:
RAGOv
i have a PPC-6600 i know its not BA but i cant seems to get that one to run? any clue?

Messenger for Linux/WM5/WM6... (Video-Conferencing, voice calls)

I Wonder if there is any Messenger software for Linux/WM5/WM6 and can do voice calls/Video-Conferencing using the build in Video cam as a web cam without using the 3G Video Call ?
I mean like doing Video call with yahoo, and MSN, but use build in Video cam as web cam? Because I think it's such a waste to have a Video cam on the Universal but not be able to use it as a web Cam doesn't matter about FPS though, at least get to use it....
J
If you want to use your pda as a webcam (and still use msn/yahoo/etc from your pc), check out Ateksoft WebCamera Plus here: http://www.ateksoft.com/webcamplus.html
It works both when ppc is cradled, and through wifi. Although I haven't managed to make it work on a Qtek9000 with WM6, on WM5 it worked like a charm
akpidis said:
If you want to use your pda as a webcam (and still use msn/yahoo/etc from your pc), check out Ateksoft WebCamera Plus here: http://www.ateksoft.com/webcamplus.html
It works both when ppc is cradled, and through wifi. Although I haven't managed to make it work on a Qtek9000 with WM6, on WM5 it worked like a charm
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thanks ~ I will try it out
SOG said:
thanks ~ I will try it out
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Note that it requires a desktop computer.
As far as purely WM-based applications are concerned, Portrait 3.0 (check out my review posted to the General forum) is able to use the built-in camera - but only the rear and not the front one on WM devices with two cameras. That is, it's pretty much useless unless you use a mirror
Unfortunately, there're no messenger apps with camera capabilities (see my IM Bible, crossposted to the General forum, for more info if interested)
Menneisyys said:
Note that it requires a desktop computer.
As far as purely WM-based applications are concerned, Portrait 3.0 (check out my review posted to the General forum) is able to use the built-in camera - but only the rear and not the front one on WM devices with two cameras. That is, it's pretty much useless unless you use a mirror
Unfortunately, there're no messenger apps with camera capabilities (see my IM Bible, crossposted to the General forum, for more info if interested)
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ya, that require a computer, and somehow I can't make it work too... it just won't display anything after selecting the driver.
anyway, ya, I am trying to find a software that will do "purely WM-based applications with web cam capabilities" thanks for the info on Protrait 3.0
I will certainly check it out kind of doesn't matter if it uses only the rear camera, oh well if it can use both, it would be great but things don't always work out the way we want it now searching for Protrait 3.0, hope I can use it to connect to desktop. and Thanks for the info !!
Menneisyys said:
Note that it requires a desktop computer.
As far as purely WM-based applications are concerned, Portrait 3.0 (check out my review posted to the General forum) is able to use the built-in camera - but only the rear and not the front one on WM devices with two cameras. That is, it's pretty much useless unless you use a mirror
Unfortunately, there're no messenger apps with camera capabilities (see my IM Bible, crossposted to the General forum, for more info if interested)
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Thanks Menneisyys, it works ! it works ! it works ! it works !
the video is good, but the interface is slow though, maybe I should flash the ROM or something, since I am still using the original ROM; most of the phone operation delay for 2 seconds or more....
For those who are interested... here is the link -----> http://research.microsoft.com/mcom/portrait/ But somehow firefox and opera can't download the file, but only IE... Is this the best M$ or Bill can do to get people use IE ? heh heh
i'm using a wm6 rom and it's works perfect
i have tested it over wifi and sync cable and both work
i didn't have to change a single setting plug and play
I't even works on my c500
Jasjar/Qtek 9000 owner lets rally!!!!!
SOG said:
I Wonder if there is any Messenger software for Linux/WM5/WM6 and can do voice calls/Video-Conferencing using the build in Video cam as a web cam without using the 3G Video Call ?
I mean like doing Video call with yahoo, and MSN, but use build in Video cam as web cam? Because I think it's such a waste to have a Video cam on the Universal but not be able to use it as a web Cam doesn't matter about FPS though, at least get to use it....
J
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Hi every one. I believe I'm pretty much like most of the people on this forum, a proud owner of a Imate Jasjar. unfortunately I use it in the US with T-Mobile. Needless to say that under such conditions the jasjar is almost useless because of the abscence of a reliable 3G network. I was wondering why there isn't any developer or company working to develop an Instant messaging software that would support the use of the front camera on the Qtek 9000/Jasjar? I completely understand that represent a lot of work and certainly don't expect it to be free. I'd find it normal to pay for it. I believe if we can afford a $700 phone we could certainly afford a $30-50 application without causing serious harm to our wallet. I would think the market would be significantly big enough concidering that the Jasjar and the Htc tytn both have a front camera, and I don't mention all the Nokia phone with comparable features.
So I just wanted to share my views on the subject and hope, since this forum gathers quite a few brilliant people that my message would be heard. So if anybody is willing to take the plunge!!???
frenchyjohn said:
Hi every one. I believe I'm pretty much like most of the people on this forum, a proud owner of a Imate Jasjar. unfortunately I use it in the US with T-Mobile. Needless to say that under such conditions the jasjar is almost useless because of the abscence of a reliable 3G network. I was wondering why there isn't any developer or company working to develop an Instant messaging software that would support the use of the front camera on the Qtek 9000/Jasjar? I completely understand that represent a lot of work and certainly don't expect it to be free. I'd find it normal to pay for it. I believe if we can afford a $700 phone we could certainly afford a $30-50 application without causing serious harm to our wallet. I would think the market would be significantly big enough concidering that the Jasjar and the Htc tytn both have a front camera, and I don't mention all the Nokia phone with comparable features.
So I just wanted to share my views on the subject and hope, since this forum gathers quite a few brilliant people that my message would be heard. So if anybody is willing to take the plunge!!???
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seriously, I willl pay like $20 for it... alot more fun if we can use th cam

alternative Bluetooth input device possible?

Hi guys,
i just want to discuss an idea I just had.
Im using my PPC mostly at the university. And since some time i was searching for an Input device I could write with and have the written stuff in a digital form when Im finished (e.g as a pdf File). This would not just minimize my paper consumption it would have some other benefits too (easy sharing etc.). Now, all the devices i`ve found use the mini USB Plug of an PPC. Since the Artemis is not capable acting as a USB Host these solutions do not work. I added a picture of such a device for better illustration.
Now the idea:
Yesterday a hack has been presented on www.hackaday.com (the direct link is below) to use a WiiMote (is a Bluetooth Device) as an Input device for an electronic Chalk-Board. Now this is an very impressive hack indeed. But could it be possible to use this particular hack in a small version for PPC`s to let the WiiMote work together with the Artemis (or any other Bluetooth equiped PPC) as an "electronic Paper" device. Just for your imagination:
- connect wiimote to Artemis then use an SMD IR Equiped Stylus to write on a paper
Im no good in coding so this is off for me... But maybe soemone could give a statement on if this can be done. I mean the software for Desktop Pcs does exist (follow the links on hakaday.com) they have "just" to be rewritten for WM6 PPCs.
Link to www.hackaday.com:
http://www.hackaday.com/2007/12/09/wiimote-projector-whiteboard/
Sorry for my bad english i hope you guys understand what I was trying to explain. Here is the picture of an conventional "electronic paper" system (found on www.pearl.de)
Regards
Jabami
I bought a Wiimote this week and a LED-array to do exactly that but for a desktop computer instead of a ppc. I've done some research on that topic and found no solution yet. Seems as if nobody is interested enough that has the knowledge and skills for porting or recompiling it for ppc.
Of course it's not really a cheap solution but you could buy a tablet pc. I bought one for my studies and I can write down my stuff and share it later on my website in "hand-written" format as mhtml, pdf or whatever. I got a Compaq TC1000, this model and the TC1100 are the only I'm aware of that can be used as slate and convertible tablet pcs at the same time. I installed my bluetooth stick on the TC1000 and it was too slow for the wiimote, or maybe the bluetooth stick, but I doubt that.
There are some reasons why I wouldn't use the wiimote for writing at university:
-As soon as the wiimote moves you have to calibrate again
-You need a good spot for it so it can see you hand all the time
-Probably needs 800 "Pentium" Mhz or more to work perfectly
In the videos I saw at johnnylee.net the wiimote was mounted over the guy that wrote on his e-paper. If you are not sitting in the middle of a room with hundreds of students then this might be a solution.
All the things you said are true, plus theres is one thing lee mentiones at the end of his YouTube Video. Its about the resolution you get. So all in all the conclusion is:
using the WiiMote as an electronic paper device will not work due to resolution restrictions.
Well but maybe there is some other way to tweak an Input device into the Bluetooth Interface of the Artemis....
Best regards
Jabami

Videochat software?

Ok, windows Live messenger mobile doesn't support it, neither skype... so the frontal cam of the trinity is useless?
Is it possible that the only way to make a video connection is a videocall? Doesn't really exist any software able to establish a videochat messenger like?
You can't say "it is useless except for video call" since this is exactly what it was designed for: 3G video call.
I understand that you prefer to use it for free, or cheaper through wifi connexion etc. and I wish I could do the same too.
Nevertheless, as far as I know, there is so far, only one sof which can allow you to make 'Instant messaging with video' on PPC, it is called Microsoft portrait. Something between Live Messenger and net-meeting...
There are two things which are not going to make you happy though.
1)
Video go through the rear camera, not the front one.
2)
Sounds as for other messengers, go through back speaker, not the ear-piece.
I had it installed a year ago on my wizard, but since I knew nobody using the same soft, I've never been able to test it out so far.
I'm ready to reinstall it on if you or anyone on this forum is willing to make some tests with me.
There is a version for PC, of course, so it is possible to test it on your PC too.
I heard it can work along with MSN, but both sides must have both softwares installed Live Messenger AND Microsoft Portrait.
You may ask: so what is the big deal about this software? the big deal is that this soft is optimised to use a very small amount of band-width, either 9600 kb (regular gsm connexion) wich gives a quite grey image, or broad band, wich gives you then full colors effect.
http://research.microsoft.com/resea...37d6-b663-45c3-ad4f-a1a500562c9d/details.aspx
maybe ms will change that in a later msg release
maybe in 2009 or 2010
with the efford they put into the platform :S
Rudegar said:
maybe ms will change that in a later msg release
maybe in 2009 or 2010
with the efford they put into the platform :S
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Actually, technically, it is already possible in a messenger application, from Tencent in China: QQ2007. And it uses the front camera.
The problem is that Tencent want to make a living out of this service, therefore, you have to be connected through the 3G service of a Chinese Telecom Operator, otherwise, it doesn't allow you to sign in...
Unlike previous version of QQ, when you are connected through wifi it doesn't work on the windows mobile version. There is a walk-around for nokia version, but nothing for windows mobile...
It's really a pity cause the technology is there, it's just a matter of that they don't want to provide it for free.
There are a freeware software for videochat: packetbone (an old release)
Another option is iFon from http://www.tabletmedia.com/ifon.html , seems the best solution for now
Best Regards Happy New Year!
APOLO_br said:
There are a freeware software for videochat: packetbone (an old release)
Another option is iFon from http://www.tabletmedia.com/ifon.html , seems the best solution for now
Best Regards Happy New Year!
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I've not understood whether this app can videocall msn contacts or not, and what kind of contacts is able to videocall...
the front camera isn't useless....
i use it instead a mirror to shave myself... hehehe

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