Innovative keyboard idea.... - General Accessories

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=58539&item=5120222928&rd=1
If anybody has seen one of these in action I would be interested in their comments.

i should be a little cautious here. this item was developed by iBIZ Technology Corp. they took pre release orders for the unit and then issued this letter http://store.yahoo.com/ibizpda/vike.html . these units are not available from the manufacturer yet. (according to there web site)
so it looks like these are development \ research units.
i belive the technology is developed and stable they just have manufacturing issue. ive been waiting for them to come to market for a few months now :roll:
Hope this helps
Regard
The Pilgrim

Virtual Keyboard
I have one - it works fine as long as you take a little time to get the sensitivity right and use the right surface.
(It's hard to see keyboard projection in bright sunlight obviously)
Its a pity there is no rack or stand to set the PDA upright - typing is tricky when screen is not in a easy to view position.
Hope this helps,
Barrance

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barrance said:
I have one - it works fine as long as you take a little time to get the sensitivity right and use the right surface.
(It's hard to see keyboard projection in bright sunlight obviously)
Its a pity there is no rack or stand to set the PDA upright - typing is tricky when screen is not in a easy to view position.
Hope this helps,
Barrance
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Hey Barrance,
Mind posting the store you got it from and how much it costs? very interested in this technology - it would be cool to use
Thanks in advance.

We recently reviewed this device. Innovative but not entirely practical yet.
See http://www.pocketgpsworld.com/itech-keyboard.php

Cool Thanks Griffog

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Stylus is really great for GT

I'm statimg the obvious here since the first generation of tablets(way before the ipad) were by default stylus-dependent devices.
But because of the nature of how one uses the tablet, usually on your laps on a sofa, or on a coffee table at home or a cafe, or in one hand reading an ebook, or even on the go walking around, it's much easier to use a stylus to tap with, rather than having to stick out your finger like a baby continuous reaching out for stuff. Unlike a phone which is in your hand so your thumb does all the work or because of the small screen you always hold close, the tablet is always a distance away, so the extended length provided by the stylus makes it that much more comfortable. Not to mention you also avoid finger marks on your screen!
I've had a stylus since last winter when I used it for glove-on solutions with my nexus one. But I found it rather cumbersome for a phone, the small screen spade leaving no margin of error. So since spring it was just siting on my desk without any good use, but now with the new GT I'd it's had a second life, and I carry it all around!
Anyone else found the stylus a great companion to tablets? Any recommendations on a specific stylus? (any one tried the ocrucial samsung one?)
see here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1147423
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see here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1147423
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Ah, thanks for the link. Wish I had seen that 3 dollar stylus beforehand!

[Q] Magnetic Floatation Holder.

Hi there, I am currently making a magnetic floatation holder compatible with any android phone. I recently came across these threads and was wondering if anybody knew how I could shield the internal apparatus from magnetic interference? The phones are currently floating in mid air within the holder box but they refuse to function correctly due to the immensely powerful magnetic field surrounding it. Any advise at all would be greatly appreciated?
Have you tried a rubber lining? That may help...
Tried many linings
Hi, thanks for the speedy response. I have tried everything from Aerospace Aluminium, plastic, rubber and Titanium. The only material that currently works is lead and that has to be 3mm thick which makes it way too heavy. If there is maybe anyone you know that could literally coat each mechanism and distribution board within the device with lead that would be great but also impractical for multiple cellphone compatibility. I am sooo close but yet soo far. I have managed to adjust the magnetic frequency to allow minimal interference but it still leads variable damage in multiple areas. I have recently applied for a patent but I pray I can find an unknown material. I am just missing something but cannot put my finger on it. Anyways thanks for your kind response but I am 2 minutes away from burning everything......Sooo frustrating. If you come up with any ideas pweeez let me know, my brain is fried.
Thanks Guys and Dols
Thanks for your help KT, I managed to get in touch with one of the guys responsible for Maglev train magnetic composite technologies and he agreed to help me for a small percentage of total profits. It will be ready about March next year for initial testing, maybe you guys at XDA can use a few 1hundred units for testing? It seems to me this is the best arena to get a feel for the product? Thanks anyway, I will be looking into it.
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I'm extremely confused to why u would need this... Even more confused about how u would market them...
Great Toy, Looks Alien.
Don't you just hate scratched cellphone/tablet screens. Well now(4months time in S.A) you can simply throw your phone into the invisible magnetic field and when there is no contact with the ground your face cannot be scratched. When you get into your car, simply plug it into your sig lighter and your phone etc can be held in mid air. No more key scratches, no more make-up marks on your device. And it looks really space age, your glowing Android etc phone hovering in mid air. And it will also charge automatically while in the magnetic spectrum. Use it as a night clock/light and place it on(or rather over) your night stand table.
Well at least I hope people would use this because I have spent an infinite amount of time and energy, not to mention hard capital, on this adventure of mine. The ride has been great and tough at times but hopefully the law of thermodynamics will ensure at least a 60% return on energy invested. The guys at Maglev where ecstatic so I am sure they would not help me out as they have unless they knew it was a sure bet. Anyways, thanks for the constructive criticism.
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Don't you just hate scratched cellphone/tablet screens. Well now(4months time in S.A) you can simply throw your phone into the invisible magnetic field and when there is no contact with the ground your face cannot be scratched. When you get into your car, simply plug it into your sig lighter and your phone etc can be held in mid air. No more key scratches, no more make-up marks on your device. And it looks really space age, your glowing Android etc phone hovering in mid air. And it will also charge automatically while in the magnetic spectrum. Use it as a night clock/light and place it on(or rather over) your night stand table.
Well at least I hope people would use this because I have spent an infinite amount of time and energy, not to mention hard capital, on this adventure of mine. The ride has been great and tough at times but hopefully the law of thermodynamics will ensure at least a 60% return on energy invested. The guys at Maglev where ecstatic so I am sure they would not help me out as they have unless they knew it was a sure bet. Anyways, thanks for the constructive criticism.
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My 2c (worth even less )
It sounds very cool, and very techy and geeky, however I don't know if I see the mass market potential for this type of device?
Also I have a couple of questions:
Does the phone hold its position once placed in the magnetic field? Or is it able to rotate freely?
What about the potential effects on wristwatches and other non sheilded devices? I don't want to put my phone in a mag field and have my watch go blank.
That being said I wish you luck - hopefully I'm wrong and you can retire on this idea
Spot On
You are absolutely correct, containment, extrapolation, dispersion on a lateral effect and cross intensification are issues that are currently being worked on. As of yet nobody in S.A has the mechanical techniques nor tools that I require to enclose the radial disturbance, only one company in Germany can manage the calibration needed. And this has only recently been developed through discoveries made on the Large Hadron Collider. Fortunately, the guys at Maglev's, ITSC, have a ready made and diverse magnetic operating coil for my device. With ought going into all the technical babble, I have got a free travel package to Germany next month and they say my mind will be blown away when I see the solution they came up with. And, retirement, no way, my brain could not handle being idle for 5 seconds. These guys are brilliant, I gave them blueprints a week ago and they already have a model I need to sign off on. So I am sure all your devices will not be affected in any way. Gonna hit the waves now, have not surfed in 3weeks. I hope I can count on xda to distribute a few working units when I get back? When you guys O.K a device, it's future is certain.....
I'm a novice so this might be stupid. Your focus seems to be on insulation. Have you tried going the opposite way? Maybe construct some sort of golden faraday cage?
Also, If I got one of those testing units, that would be tits.
im not certian a faraday cage would work. but it would definately be worth trying, not gold though (gold wont conduct magentic flux very well), ferrite, iron, anything that conducts magnetism very well with very little remaining magnetic field when the source is removed (there is a property specified for that, but i cant remember the name). had part would be covering the screen and not being an eyesore. im not gonna watch the thread so OP can pm me for a bit more info if they wish.
any snap shots i know it might be a no but i really want to see this very intrested
Hey sorry, been out of town for a few days. No problem, as soon as I got the reworked casings in place I can send you a pic. Just a tad dicey at the moment due to copy right etc. Oh and brilliant, the Faraday cage worked perfectly in my initial testing +-1year ago but it blocked the entire device off and stopped easy insertion of the phone. All the kinks are pretty much sorted, you can throw the phone from 3metres away and the field will capture it. Received a vid from MGLEV tests, it was lank hilarious, I am so stoked my baby is almost sorted. thanks guys for input, how can I get in touch with xda management, want to organize initial releases for +- 1000 members? Just require delivery reception details and a few agreements, no cost to you at xda at all? Thank you, God Bless.
I think this guy is screwing with us. He sound like a back to the future movie.
And you waited all this time to tell us? (read the last date it was posted).
I see what you mean though, kinda too good to be true or, at least, too expensive to buy commercially
This is not too good to be true. The magnetic levitation technique has been demonstrated even with living beings in lab. There are adornments in market that float in free air with magnetic levitation.
http://www.google.com/search?source...pw.r_cp.&fp=200a4278d8f8f451&biw=1024&bih=655
However, I guess it's far fetched to use it for cellphones since the inteference and damage to components will be too high. However, I doubt the authenticity of this post as MagLev trains have little in their design that'd help shielding a mobile phone.
If scratched surfaces annoy you, use a woolen holder.
hmmm any updates?
I'd love to do testing; got like 4 different phones to test with

[Q] keyboard cover

anyone find a decent slim keyboard cover?
I guess the price will be very high as the user base is small.
I purchased this one:
/itm/LG-8-3inch-G-Pad-Slim-cover-flip-single-stage-stand-Case-High-Qulity-Tablet-PC-/221320680238?ssPageName=ADME:X:RTQ:US:1123
...the forum would not let me post a correct link so add www ebay com before the link.
High price but i could not find any other that would ship to sweden. Amazon had some but the shipping price was higher (total cost more den 55$).
I did not want to wait any longer for my cover since i have a young child that likes to play around with my stuff . I needed a cover fast. I am sure that there will be others out there as soon as the sales of the unit increase.
That's just a case, I think he is looking for a combined case/keyboard.
Which I have not seen yet.
Is that what you're looking for? I cannot post link at the moment. It's from amazon.ca
/Asuxtek%C2%AELG-Bluetooth-Keyboard-Portfolio-Case/dp/B00EVNHQF4
yes. Exactly something like this. thanks for the information
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Is that what you're looking for? I cannot post link at the moment. It's from amazon.ca
/Asuxtek%C2%AELG-Bluetooth-Keyboard-Portfolio-Case/dp/B00EVNHQF4
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twemco said:
Is that what you're looking for? I cannot post link at the moment. It's from amazon.ca
/Asuxtek%C2%AELG-Bluetooth-Keyboard-Portfolio-Case/dp/B00EVNHQF4
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This looks great. How did it work?
I read the reviews and I just bought a similar case but bought a bluetooth keyboard separately. Its similar to Apple with the scissor keys and works well. This way I can use it for movies and not have to worry about a keyboard in the case.
RyanEJ25 said:
I read the reviews and I just bought a similar case but bought a bluetooth keyboard separately. Its similar to Apple with the scissor keys and works well. This way I can use it for movies and not have to worry about a keyboard in the case.
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I'm expecting one of these to be delivered on Monday. Unfortunately the reviews are for different ELTD products, without the keyboard included.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Bluetooth-K...eather/dp/B00DVGXNKO/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top
I'll try to provide an opinion once I've had a chance to test it out. I am concerned about the ergonomics as that tab sticking out in front of the keyboard looks like a major irritation, but I'll hold judgement until I have hands on experience. FWIW I already have the ELTD (branded "IVSO") Black III cover, which is pretty good for the price, so I hope this product will prove just as good.
tdodd said:
I'm expecting one of these to be delivered on Monday. Unfortunately the reviews are for different ELTD products, without the keyboard included.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Bluetooth-K...eather/dp/B00DVGXNKO/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top
I'll try to provide an opinion once I've had a chance to test it out. I am concerned about the ergonomics as that tab sticking out in front of the keyboard looks like a major irritation, but I'll hold judgement until I have hands on experience. FWIW I already have the ELTD (branded "IVSO") Black III cover, which is pretty good for the price, so I hope this product will prove just as good.
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The keyboard cover arrived on Saturday and I've had a chance to give it a workout. I'm using it now to type this.Here are some observations....
1. The overall impression is quite good. It seems well made and holds both tablet andkeyboard securely with good protection.
2. The whole package becomes quite heavy and bulky, not unlike a hefty Filofax of old.
3. The keyboard fastens into the cover with magnets. The strength of hold seems spot on - held firmly enough, but easily removed.
4. The keyboard part is very light indeed. The weight is in the cover.
5. The keyboard works well, but of course the keys are small and close and typing mistakes are made as I need to get used to it.
6. Unfortunately for the UK market there is no £ key on the keyboard and I have no idea how to access the key without turning off the keyboard, waiting for the tablet to release the connection and then using the on screen keyboard to input the character. It takes longer to drop the missing keyboard connection than to reacquire it.
7. The tab on the cover is soft enough to be tucked out of the way under the keyboard and will stay put fairly easily.
8. The biggest functional problem (bulk, weight and missing key aside) is that with the tablet secured within the cover the surrounding material, which covers the bezels, sticks up proud and make it quite difficult to touch the notification bar for a double tap or to pull notifications down. To a lesser degree there is a similar problem with the navigation buttons.
9. The cover does act like a smart cover, turning the tablet on and off when opened and closed.
10. If the tablet is rebooted the Bluetooth pairing is lost and manual reconnection is necessary.
Overall it's not a bad product, especially for the price, but there is room for improvement. I will continue using the keyboard in isolation, but instead of the heavy/bulky/awkward cover I shall use the cover I already bought, with smart cover, and use the keyboard loose and free from the tablet. That will allow me to grab the tablet for a low profile and light weight for mobility (pocketable) and just leave the keyboard back home on the desk (coffee table).
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6. Unfortunately for the UK market there is no £ key on the keyboard and I have no idea how to access the key without turning off the keyboard, waiting for the tablet to release the connection and then using the on screen keyboard to input the character. It takes longer to drop the missing keyboard connection than to reacquire it.
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I wonder if this app would help - I used it with another bluetooth keyboard and tablet when I had the same issue, though I haven't tried it with my G Pad yet. In my case, the £ sign was printed on the keyboard but despite this it was permanently set to US layout in the software somehow (despite the tablet language and default input language being set to UK), so I got # when I tried to get £, I think, and also " and @ were swapped. Basically the app lets you select a region/language and then your external keyboard should behave as if the keys are what you'd expect for that region - so if you press Shift+3 you should get £ regardless of what's printed on the keyboard itself. It doesn't display an onscreen keyboard, and the tablet should default automatically to the app settings when it detects your external keyboard, so once you do the initial setup it's pretty seamless. There's a demo version so you could see if it worked before buying. It's called External Keyboard Helper and is available from the Play store.

Keyboard case with trackpad

has anyone used this case
I haven't, but is that the same one as:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...ssories/tried-aluminum-keyboard-case-t3092851
Note10.1Dude said:
I haven't, but is that the same one as:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...ssories/tried-aluminum-keyboard-case-t3092851
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no its not the same one. sorry i didnt get a notification that you had replied sorry. my next pay ill probably pick one up and put up a review of it for people on here.
I'm currently using a modified one from Logitech, but I'd prefer to try a new one to couple it with my linux use: http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...-to-install-gnu-linux-samsung-galaxy-t3239809 (Lollipop support's incoming in a few hours)
So any kind of user (or even professional) review would be welcome.
i just got the keyboard in the very first post. I like it alot. the trackpad works nicely, but takes a very light touch to click. that hasn't caused and issues, I'm just used to tapping my laptop trackpad really hard.
it holds the Note very securely, which I like, but you can't charge it without taking it off the keyboard which I don't like. You could flip it around and put the tablet on upside down, but then you can't access the power and volume keys. but anyway, the keys are comfortable and I can type on it as fast as I can on any other keyboard. it's also substantial, a little heavy and solid. I like that.
I wish it had a "return to previous screen" to " button though. and I wish the '"sleep" button wasn't just above the back button. I've hit that a couple times which is irritating. Just something to get used to though. It does a very good job of making the Note into a little laptop. I paid around $40 on ebay and think it was worth it.
Hi thanks for your short review!
If you don't mind, I'd have a few extra questions:
1) How easy/hard is it to remove the tablet from the keyboard/case? Is it tight enough so it won't accidentally fall out if you hold it by the keyboard part when it's closed?
2) Sort of connected to the previous question, is it possible to use the tablet/keyboard combination in as a proper laptop, i.e. on your lap somewhat comfortably?
The other two questions concern the usability of keys, in case you happen to know.
3) Is there any key that can be used for AltGr? I've got a few keys in my keyboard layout that I have to access using this key. I was wondering if the key between Alt and Space - it's some Apple symbol, isn't it? - could function as AltGr? (just for reference, the pictures I'm looking at are here: http://www.ebay.com/itm/161704633039)
4) Do you happen to know, if there's a way of inputting F-keys, e.g. using Fn + number keys? This might only make sense for people who are using Linux on their tablet, but could make quite a difference in terms of how useful the keyboard is (depending on how much you use them).
5) Did I see correctly that there's a forward delete button above backspace (probably accessible in comination with Fn)?
addthere is a Fn key that you can use in combination with the number keys like the function keys on a full keyboard. I don't use them though, so I don't know alot about how they work or differ from a full keyboard. I see the other key you mention, but I don't know if or how you can remap it. Out of the box, it is a toggle for a google search bar.
I like the layout of the keys, it's pretty traditional, however, a big frustration has been that the "back" key is small and right below a "sleep" key. I hit the sleep all the time when I want back, and that's been irritating. But the more I use it, the better I get at hitting back when I want to intsead of sleep. As far as the feel and usability of the keys, I love it. I can keyboard as fast (as long as I don't hit the damn sleep key) on this little board as well as I can on my work laptop.
the track pad works really well, when I remember it's there I'm making the transition from touching the screen all the time to using the trackpad and I like it. I did have to adjust my thumbs a bit to keep from accidentally brushing it. However, there isn't a scroll function, so you still have to scroll by touching the screen.
Fitting the tablet onto the board is pretty tight, but it is getting easier as I use it (I've had the keyboard for about 3 weeks and use it everyday) It is VERY secure though and truly feels like a little laptop. No danger of the Note coming off accidentally. You have to flip the Note upside down to charge it while it's mounted on the keyboard and I worried a little about the pressure on the camera, but so far that doesn't seem to be a problem.
The keyboard is on the heavier side and works excellently on a desk or other hard surface. but on a lap or soft surface like a couch, the Note is still a little top heavy. I use it on the couch in front of the TV all the time at home though and haven't found this to be too much of a problem....but for actually on your lap, it doesn't work very well, at least for me.
Time will tell how well the hinge holds up. It seems relatively sturdy and stable, but it seems like the weak spot to me. So far it's holding up nicely, but in a year or so? We'll just have to see.
I hope that helps a little. Overall, I'm glad I got this keyboard and use it all this the time. My Note lives in it.
Since it came from China, it took a long time to get here, probably 3 or 4 weeks from when I bought on eBay, but well within the timeframe the vendor said.
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I just thought I'd try using this keyboard on my lap again, and actually, it's not too bad. I find I kind of rest the heel of my left hand to keep it upright and I can type quite comfortably. I guess it really makes a difference in how you sit and/or how big your lap is!
I do have another keyboard that I've used for a while, I also got on eBay. It is much lighter, but with no hinge. The note just sits in a slot. It works fine, but I wanted to try this one for the more secure mating of the two devices. This one really fills the bill in that regard, so I prefer it, even though the other keyboard had an Android key for "back" in addition to a true back/delete key. I miss that Android back key.
also, just to add, I have a glass screen protector on my Note...this may change the tight fit and also the protection. I do get marks on the screen (protector) from inserting and de-serting the Note. so far, they have not been scratches, but come off with some vigorous wiping with a cloth.
I have found this one while searching. Though it looks like a pretty cool accesssory, but only real world testing can prove that.
Keyboard withTouch panel for samsung galaxy note 10.1 2014 edition tablet PC for samsung galaxy note 10.1 2014 edition keyboard
http://s.aliexpress.com/FjieQvA7
(from AliExpress Android)
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addthere is a Fn key that you can use in combination with the number keys like the function keys on a full keyboard. I don't use them though, so I don't know alot about how they work or differ from a full keyboard. I see the other key you mention, but I don't know if or how you can remap it. Out of the box, it is a toggle for a google search bar. [...]
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Thanks a lot, that was quite helpful in terms of usability! Sounds like a versatile device, but I get the impression that for my use case it might miss some keys, at least/especially if I want to keep working with DE keyboard layout.
For people who can/want to deal with a German keyboard, this one seems to be pretty good judging by the reviews:
http://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B00..._rd_t=36701&pf_rd_p=585296387&pf_rd_i=desktop
Still no hinge, but they claim that it is usable on the lap. They might offer English versions on Amazon UK/US as well in case anyone's interested (vaguely remember seeing something like that).
I'm considering to try fixing together something myself with a simple case, some laptop hinges and a bluetooth keyboard. Don't know if I'll be able to build anything useful and not abhorrently disfunctional, or if/when I'll ever find the time...
sam_khan said:
I have found this one while searching. Though it looks like a pretty cool accesssory, but only real world testing can prove that.
Keyboard withTouch panel for samsung galaxy note 10.1 2014 edition tablet PC for samsung galaxy note 10.1 2014 edition keyboard
http://s.aliexpress.com/FjieQvA7
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In my opinion it looks good but is a bit expensive.

Screen Crease

Prior to the release of the Galaxy Fold I held a high interest in the device, it looked to be the next evolution in smartphones and in some ways it is on the cutting edge. On an International flight the guy sitting next to me allowed to examine his Fold Device. My first impression was this is pretty slick until I unfolded it. I had suspicions the display wasn't going to be the seamless beauty seen in the promotional videos Samsung distributed prior to it's release. I didn't ask the user how long he had the device but it had only been released a few months earlier. Maybe it's just me but the crease running down the middle of the display is very pronounced and tough to ignore. Here's Samsung's official statement regarding the crease.
"You may notice the crease at the center of the main screen due to characteristic of new Polymer material but it is a normal characteristic of device designed for the Infinity Flex Display. It will not affect the display’s quality"
"You may notice the crease" You'd be blind if you didn't notice it and I'm curious about their definition of the quality of the display.
I held off on acquiring a Fold and happy I did based feedback I've read. Also I was surprised to read Samsung is releasing the Fold Special Edition which is identical to the current Fold for $1,090 USD. That's close to half the price of it at release! A big price reduction is concerning but understandable since the device had a number of quality issues, hopefully Samsung has addressed most of these.
My biggest deal killer is the crease so my question is how bad is it for people using it as their daily driver? Any word the soon to arrive Fold 2 has improved on this obvious blemish? I know if I dropped two stacks on a smartphone I might be hesitant to throw shade on it but seriously, how bad is the crease?
no disrespect, but ill be blunt here.
you dont have a clue about what you're talking about, you're just scared to throw down "2 stacks". looking for small excuses to keep yourself from pulling the trigger.
you're letting all the stupid reviews from the big "reviewers" (most of them who are useless), influence your views.
it seems like you did less with it in your hands than at a samsung experience store which is a shame.
if you had actually turned on the screen, turned up/down the brightness to suit the atmosphere, it would be evident that the crease you call an "obvious blemish" is pretty much no where to be seen.
once you tilt the phone, then yes, you can see it, but who uses their phone tilted?
you sound so sure in your post, yet your lack of knowledge is all telling.
fyi, that special edition you talk about? its rumored to have the same design as the first fold, with this years processor. it has nothing to do with the z fold 2.
the z fold 2 should be at the same price as the fold, possibly a tad bit higher.
good luck with waiting for the fold to be perfect, quite a few years away, probably never id assume.
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no disrespect, but ill be blunt here.
you dont have a clue about what you're talking about, you're just scared to throw down "2 stacks". looking for small excuses to keep yourself from pulling the trigger.
you're letting all the stupid reviews from the big "reviewers" (most of them who are useless), influence your views.
it seems like you did less with it in your hands than at a samsung experience store which is a shame.
if you had actually turned on the screen, turned up/down the brightness to suit the atmosphere, it would be evident that the crease you call an "obvious blemish" is pretty much no where to be seen.
once you tilt the phone, then yes, you can see it, but who uses their phone tilted?
you sound so sure in your post, yet your lack of knowledge is all telling.
fyi, that special edition you talk about? its rumored to have the same design as the first fold, with this years processor. it has nothing to do with the z fold 2.
the z fold 2 should be at the same price as the fold, possibly a tad bit higher.
good luck with waiting for the fold to be perfect, quite a few years away, probably never id assume.
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"You're just scared to throw down 2 stacks"
Wow, a certified mind reader! Money is only a problem when you don't have any...
"If you had actually turned on the screen"
YOU have no clue what you're talking about, the device was powered up. I spent at least 20 minutes using controls and features.
"Once you tilt the phone, then yes, you can see it, but who uses their phone tilted"
The crease was visible regardless of the viewing angle.
"You're letting all the stupid reviews from the big "reviewers" (most of them who are useless), influence your views"
So the "reviewer's" are useless and I should disregard them and put my faith in YOU?
Next time you respond to a post do everyone a favor, stick to what you KNOW, not what you ASSUME! You contributed very little to my inquiry about the crease, instead tossing around childish insults. Very inappropriate in this forum, get a grip or zip it!
Easy now guys. While it's ok to disagree, lets do it in a civil and respectful manner. Thank you.
--Badger50
I you have the money and you are fine with the small front display, it will easily be your daily phone.
For me, it's also a perfect desktop replacement, too.
Samsung shipped my Fold 5G with free buds and an assurance for a display replacement with worldwide premium concierge service.
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the device was powered up. I spent at least 20 minutes using controls and features
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hmmm.. so you spend 20 mins with the fold, and in your eyes, now you've experienced the fold. YET, you still come to a forum and say "how bad is the crease?"
makes no sense to me.
varcor said:
Next time you respond to a post do everyone a favor, stick to what you KNOW, not what you ASSUME!
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LOL. its funny how you completely fail to realize i actually own a fold. since day 1 actually. "stick to what i know." LOL
varcor said:
You contributed very little to my inquiry about the crease, instead tossing around childish insults. Very inappropriate in this forum, get a grip or zip it!
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what were my first 7 words?
what childish insults? did i swear at you? did i call you names?
samsung unpacked is coming at the beginning of august. the z fold 2 should be announced there.
you'll have yet another year to think about if you want to drop two stacks or not.
good luck
ProEDL said:
I you have the money and you are fine with the small front display, it will easily be your daily phone.
For me, it's also a perfect desktop replacement, too.
Samsung shipped my Fold 5G with free buds and an assurance for a display replacement with worldwide premium concierge service.
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Thanks for the helpful input. With respect to the Display Replacement, any information as to whether or not Samsung would offer warranty replacement for a visible crease? It would seem they won't, implying it's a known defect they can't yet address. That's my biggest issue. Font Size can be increased, in doing so does it alter the symmetry of the entire display composition? Also, which model are you using? I'm leaning towards a Fold 2 variant of the SMF9070.
From my point of view of owning the phone, the crease does not bother me in the slightest, I literally don't even notice it any more. Everyone has mentioned the crease in all reviews and most also say within a day of using it you don't even notice that it is there
I've also added a screen protector to the front screen and the folding screen which keeps it clean and fresh (can be peeled off it needed), I also have the free screen replacement within the first 12 months.
In terms of the quality of the display I can't fault it, colour accuracy is very good as well as low light, it's very easy to view in sunlight as well. The hinge is very solid and I don't feel like I have to baby the device when using it.
You seem more hung up on the crease so just to say again, I literally forget it is there when I am using the device, it doesn't impact the phone at all. A visible crease is not a defect, it's there by design for the folding screen, don't forget this is new technology, it's likely the next few versions will have this crease, maybe it will get slightly better as they go forward.
In terms of font size, I have changed the dpi to 712 in developer setting and that works well for me, that's my sweet spot for using the phone.
With the larger front screen on the Fold 2, I would highly recommend picking that up when it's released. However if you are hung up on a crease on the screen, you might be best just getting say the new Note 20 and sticking with a normal form factor. For new technology, there has to be a small compromise for early generation products.
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From my point of view of owning the phone, the crease does not bother me in the slightest, I literally don't even notice it any more. Everyone has mentioned the crease in all reviews and most also say within a day of using it you don't even notice that it is there
I've also added a screen protector to the front screen and the folding screen which keeps it clean and fresh (can be peeled off it needed), I also have the free screen replacement within the first 12 months.
In terms of the quality of the display I can't fault it, colour accuracy is very good as well as low light, it's very easy to view in sunlight as well. The hinge is very solid and I don't feel like I have to baby the device when using it.
You seem more hung up on the crease so just to say again, I literally forget it is there when I am using the device, it doesn't impact the phone at all. A visible crease is not a defect, it's there by design for the folding screen, don't forget this is new technology, it's likely the next few versions will have this crease, maybe it will get slightly better as they go forward.
In terms of font size, I have changed the dpi to 712 in developer setting and that works well for me, that's my sweet spot for using the phone.
With the larger front screen on the Fold 2, I would highly recommend picking that up when it's released. However if you are hung up on a crease on the screen, you might be best just getting say the new Note 20 and sticking with a normal form factor. For new technology, there has to be a small compromise for early generation products.
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This is great input, thanks for sharing your experience. As mentioned I did have an opportunity to demo the Fold but it's the only one I've used to date. On this particular device the crease wasn't subtle, it would be difficult for most to ignore. Not sure what the owner's usage patterns are or other measures he may have employed. It's possible he used a screen protector which enhanced the crease, I didn't ask. When the Fold 2 is released I'll spend some time with it. I don't expect a virtually creaseless display but I would be very disappointed if it was similar to the one I've used.
I'm thinking it should look more like the flip which is less pronounced in video; I've not had a personal fondling of either so my view's here are strictly vicarious. I'm pretty sure I'm in though, I talked myself into it for round one but eventually bailed out with the delays. This time I'm hopeful the launch wont give me enough time to get antsy and I'm make it to pay dirt. Just got to find out about root...
I have had the fold for months, there is a crease, doesn't bother me at all, your mileage may vary!
I have the Fold and I never see the crease when used in front of me, you only see it when you're about to close it looking at it on an angle. It's not a problem at all, and trust me I'm very fussy with smartphones. It's not a deal breaker.
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From my point of view of owning the phone, the crease does not bother me in the slightest, I literally don't even notice it any more. Everyone has mentioned the crease in all reviews and most also say within a day of using it you don't even notice that it is there
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thank you. exactly what i said.
basic086 said:
I have the Fold and I never see the crease when used in front of me, you only see it when you're about to close it looking at it on an angle. It's not a problem at all, and trust me I'm very fussy with smartphones. It's not a deal breaker.
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gotta love affirmation

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