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PDA2K - niggly problems

On the whole I'm very pleased with my imate PDA2K, but I am wondering whether anyone else is experiencing the following problems
1) After the phone has been on for a few hours, sometimes you cannot send an SMS. Once you do a soft reset then text message sending is OK again.
2) I've had this twice now. I make a phone call and I get no dial tone. A soft-reset sorts this out again. This is after the phone has been on for a few hours again.
3) The machine seems generally sluggish in popping up the text box for text message received/message sent confirmations after the notification icon has appeared in the top line.
4) Wifi access can be flaky. My signal strength generally shows as poor and the range is a lot shorter than an IPAQ HX4700 I have also used. This connects everytime in every room of the house.
5) Does anyone find the yellow tinge to the screen annoying. The XDAII contrast is better although actual screen on PDA2K is better when you get the viewing angle spot-on.
I never saw these issues on my XDAII.
I'm using the latest ROM update (1.12.22), Radio (1.02.00) ExtROM (1.12.169).
I'm begginning to consider using a SPV C500 Bluetooh phone with an IPAQ HX4700 if I need GPRS internet - it has a beautiful screen - any comments.
I really want a "one-device fits all", but these little problems are making me re-consider.
Mike

i second everything you said
my PDa2K is the same
John

I don't have Pda2k but consider most of your problems related about first ROM and Radio Stack Version..All devices have some bugs
Then about the yellow screen,that is hardware related,I am sure it is made by another company then Xda2 screen.
Note: We all know XDA2 also had initially one type screen,then after some months they (HTC) have sell XDA2 with other type screen..

I find the tint of the yellow screen changes with screen angle and I find it quite annoying.
My bluetooth headset (jabra) that has worked fine on my XDAIII for the last year and my XDA1 (with dongle) before that keeps loosing it's connection with MDAIII - works fine for half an hour after a soft reset but then stops working again.

while i can live with most of the things you mentioned so far pretty well, i can't live with the fact, that mine turns on every time i receive a short message, or when someone calls me.. because turning on not only means showing me what's on the display (that'd be ideal) but it does also mean, releasing the key- and screenlock! so whenever i get a message from someone, i start tapping on my screen probably without knowing it (since it's in my pocket) and everything gets messed up, and if i'm unlucky i might even call someone or delete stuff...
is there any workorund for that? (i have postet this problem to the general discussion earlyer this day, but nobody seems to either care, share the problem or know a solution... )
other than that, i am rather happy with my investment ;-)
cheers
pascal

They used a yellowish screen for a reason, it is 'suppose' to be ALOT easier to view under direct sunlight compared to the Xda II which will be almost unviewable under sunlight. But i personally rather have the white bright screen of xda II, who looks at their pda under direct sunlight at it anyways u can just use ur head to block the sunlight.

What THE? Hardware? Orange Firmware? Hard-resets-a-go-go...

Following a couple of previous spontaneous hard-resets, my SPV2000's now developed a liking for it, and I've got a completely repeatable hard-reset issue...
All I need do is press the telephone "Green" button!
What's odd is that if, following the hard reset, I hit the green button after the PDA's started up, but before all the Orange McGuffery installs, the phone just pops up fine. Soon as the Orange stuff's installed, it's back to green=hard reset.
WTF? Anybody else had anything similar?

If that is the case, it would seem that something in your EXtRom is the cause.
I suggest you try updating your rom, or just generally cooking your Extended rom.
Instructions on working with your extended rom are here:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BA_RomKitchen

TheLastOne said:
I suggest you try updating your rom, or just generally cooking your Extended rom.
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Is that as scary as it sounds?
BTW - I've just tried to demonstrate this utterly-repeatable behaviour and... it's working as it should. <cries, bangs head on table>

I had a problem with my first M2000 in that it wouldn't soft reset. Whenever I tried it would just stall and would take over an hour with the sim card out before it would work again.
Finally get a replacement and I found the rom was insanely old. After a couple of questions in the upgrade folder I *just* flashed the phone with the latest rom and a slightly modified extended rom. While it does look tricky, its not.
Look here for more...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=19354

xyon said:
I had a problem with my first M2000...
I found the rom was insanely old.
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Thanks - I seem to be fairly recent, though :-
Operator 5.31.1.124
ROM Version 1.31.00 WWE
ROM Date 12/13/04
Radio Version 1.06.02
Protocol Version 1337.38
ExtRom Version 1.31.124 WWE

AdrianC said:
BTW - I've just tried to demonstrate this utterly-repeatable behaviour and... it's working as it should. <cries, bangs head on table>
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And it's back at it.
The phone was ringing, I pressed "Green" to answer it, and got a hard reset. Restored the backup, pressed "Green", and got a hard reset.
This is getting VERY depressing.
Has nobody ever experienced similar? <whimper>
<UPDATE>
It gets worse! The f**king thing's now wiped my contacts and calendar in Outlook.
Excuse me, I'm just off to take to drink.

It would be worth you trying to upgrade the radio to v1.08.00.
My SPV had the audio problem and it seems to have cured that (tho I haven't re-installed much of the 3rd party s/w I had on there yet) so maybe it will help you too.
I upgraded to v1.10.00 initially (from v1.06.00), but couldn't get my wifi link to work properly. I then tried v1.08.00 and everything seems fine.

Me too, just started this week
I am also having spontaneous hard reset problems with my pda2k. I have been using it for about 6 months and for at least two months with all the sw I now have on it. When I press the power button to bring it back from sleeping it starts the "time to align your touch screen" crap. I am fairly sure it is NOT my ROM but in case anyone needs to know that:
ROM: 1.22.00 WWE
Radio 1.06.00
Ext ROM: 1.22.162 WWE
The only other remote possibility I can think of it some combination of the aftermarket 2200 mAh battery combined with the very high side seat bolsters in my new car. Perhaps I am twisting or stressing my unit in my front pocket when getting into or out of my car and that causes a momentary loss of contact with the battery contacts. I have tried to duplicate that with my hands but have not been able to. I guess I will not put it in my pocket for a while to continue testing. To the fellow who lost all of their contacts. I sympathize! That is why I set my ActiveSync to NOT actually perform any updates. I know many like the features of AS but it is not transparent, bidirectional enough nor stable enough for me to embrace. I use Sprite for backups instead and keep the data on my pda2k as "primary". Any more insight on such new and random hard resets is appreciated.

Good info on Himalaya forums also
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=12802

ROM version 1.13.188 o2 UK - anyone using??

Can't see anyone's signature showing they have actually upgraded to it... :O(
Also, odd numbering choice (is .188 higher than .48?) and does not mention much improved ("Updated O2 Active UI
Disablement of Device Error Logging")
But I guess that they don't bother to release an update unless it actually improves/cures something - right?

whoops, was reading the wrong Rom numbers (not the ExtRom version).
Sorted.

i have uploaded the xda exec new rom version .188 and it works fine for me except that sumtyms the xda hangs and i have to do the soft reset after i say 4 to 5 days, the battery life is surely improved and with the new o2 ui the battery icon is removed from the bar and is now below the msg strip on the today screen with the battery percentage aswell.
in the corporate mode, the xda works fine but it gives a program conflit with a few softwares.

Thinking of it, i'm running the .188 a few days in corp mode. But I need to reset the thing more often then I am used to with a pro.
This morning my alarm didn't ring so when I checked the MDA PRO, it hanged so I was too late out of bed .
I'll run it for a few extra day, when it hangs again im putting back my custoim t-mobile rom.

Phone freezes when in standby

When ever the phone is in standby for a few minutes or so, it refuses to power back on when I press the power button. The only way to bring the phone back is a soft reset. While it is frozen in standby mode it does not receive phones calls, emails or texts. Im running lvsw 03-26. I noticed it didn’t happen with lvsw 3-20…but it was happening with both versions of xda live. I did a few hard resets to see if that will get rid of it…but nothing. I tried searching high and low on the site and even read wiki for answers but no one seems to know what is going on. I saw a few people post up the same issue but still no help….so I decided to open a new thread. Can anyone help?

It happens. Do you have a Storage Card in? If so, take it out for a while and see what happens. What 3rd party apps are you using too. I know Wisbar Advance causes this issue. Can you list what you're running and maybe I can see if you're having the same problem I was.

I've had the same problem with most WM6 roms. Having upgraded to BlackEd2.0 the problem seems to have gone though...

are you running a today plugin off storage card perhaps?
none of the roms i've tried had power on problems

Sometimes you can have that problem with having a cluttered SD Card or having a program that is accessing online in the background.

I have a 512 storage card. I’m not running much 3rd party apps…I have Mundu IM, Microsoft live search, Google maps, WM black commander, macromedia flash player active x…and that’s it. I Had mundu, live search and Google maps installed to my storage card. After reading rabanJR’s post, I uninstalled them from the card and installed them to the phone. I then went back to the card and deleted all program folders and files….I also did a general clean up of the card. Lets see what happens now.
Also to swampy…im not running much of anything on my today screen….just the messages, calendar and the com manager plug in that came with the rom. That’s all. Lets hope for the best.

Bad news, it froze up twice again today. I’m all out of ideas….any more suggestions?

funny thing, that just happened to me today. greed led was flashing, but i couldn't get out of standby mode without soft resetting. maybe some kinda software issue? Its the first time it's happened to me since going to wm6. i did notice it before however.

rzanology said:
Bad news, it froze up twice again today. I’m all out of ideas….any more suggestions?
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maybe try a hard reset?

What Radio Rom?
Have you flashed a new radio lately? If not, what radio ROM version do you have? I had an issue with my TyTN that was definitely a radio issue. Flashed to 1.38.0.11 and haven't had a single issue with freezing since.
Just an idea, of course.
rzanology said:
Bad news, it froze up twice again today. I’m all out of ideas….any more suggestions?
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yes sir...i tried many hard resets. A radio upgrade is one of the things i tried...i saw a few people trying it. i went to 1.34 though. im going to flash to 1.38 riiight now! im desperate right now. i'll let you know how it goes.

I had the same problem until I upgraded to black 2.0. I had the radio 1.38.0.11 from the time I upgraded to wm6 and my 8525 was freezing until upgrading to black 2.0 solved my problem.

well i have good news. i upgraded to LVSW(2007/04/08) last night...and so far so good. didnt freeze once today. hope the issue is gone for good. thanks all for the help.

same exact issue here running LVSW 03-26 (goes unresponsive while in standby, green blinking LED, soft reset to recover). 2gb card installed...i'll try removing it to see if freezes go away.
rzanology: if LVSW 04/08 fixes the issue, please post back and let us know!
installed (all to device, not card)
salling clicker
resco explorer/registry/ftp/today
kyphur hold comm button toggle
wmxl apps 8525 keyboard fix
shogun cing

will do...one more note...i updated to 1.38.11 i think it was. what funny is right after i updated the radio the phone froze on the first standby. while i was coming back to post i saw the new rom update for lvsw.

This has a been a long reported problem on WM6 ROMs. 'wont wake from sleep' is the common phrase. Radio and bacground app using net I think was the problem, but no real solution if I remember correctly. On LVSW 3 26 I have gone weeks without this though. In the beginning LVSW 3 26 still did the freeze but after a week it stopped and works pretty good now. Sounds like MS is behind it since it makes no sense at all. LOL.

rzanology said:
When ever the phone is in standby for a few minutes or so, it refuses to power back on when I press the power button. The only way to bring the phone back is a soft reset. While it is frozen in standby mode it does not receive phones calls, emails or texts. Im running lvsw 03-26. I noticed it didn’t happen with lvsw 3-20…but it was happening with both versions of xda live. I did a few hard resets to see if that will get rid of it…but nothing. I tried searching high and low on the site and even read wiki for answers but no one seems to know what is going on. I saw a few people post up the same issue but still no help….so I decided to open a new thread. Can anyone help?
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Wow, I thought I was crazy becasue nobody mentioned this issue before. I had this problem from day 1.
However, i recently noticed that the 1.38 Radio was eating up my battery life and downgraded to 1.34. This combined with installing Black2.0 seems to have taken care of this problem. I just came back from a weekend away from my phone (which i know is a crime since it is so much fun to use) and it woke up right away.
What Radio do you have?

How long are your phones in standby when it happens?

well....bad news again. even after the new rom update it is still freezing. do you guys think this is hardware? I never froze on wm5...i can't see it being a hardware issue. im almost tempted to call cingular and have them send another one, but i dont know how to go back to wm5. for me, the phone will be in standby for 30 minutes or so....then wont turn back on. any more suggestions?

try disabling everything completely.
1 events and notifications
2 beam auto receive
3 bluetooth
4 wifi
5 put device into flight mode
6 all startup items (including those in rom) move to a temp for now
7 disable activesync
8 disable push email
9 disable all today items
1. disable error reporting customer experience
11 remove anything that reads the sd card
12 remove sd card entirely
13 remove sim card
literally disable everything that runs automatically or otherwise.
power down ur phone by pressing power button for 3 secs. shutdown. leave it for 20secs.
power it back up. then test it now.
if u have a problem now then it could be scary bear notifications fix only. u could have a notification queu problem that is causing ur device to contradicory items simultaneously.
this could be caused activesync so no matter which rom u use it comes back via activesync of calendar or tasks.
if at this stage its fixed then bring things back systematically with the most important first like the sim card. turn off flight mode
c how u go. sometimes pda just gets confused and doesnt wake up from a sleep to well (bit like me in the morning... sometimes bed and sleep is just way to good compared to work/life)...
good luck.

Blank Screen of Death [BSoD]

Hi all.
I have recently flashed my Herm to have the fantastic Black MAJIK rom. All went very well and I was pleased with the rom. I did have issues with the wireless not working and also with the blank screen detailed below.
When HTC released the update for WM6 for the TyTn, I decided to flash to that rom and give it a try. Again, works well, although I had to flash back to Radio 1.38 to get the Bluetooth to work properly with my Jabra headset. (I am on Orange in the UK - have not tried 1.43, as could not find it!)
The big problem is this :- randomly (could be 6 hours, could be ten minutes), the phone does not wake up from sleep. The lights are still flashing (I have not tried calling the phone - I will do that next time), but it will not wake up. No ActiveSync at all.
Soft reset is the only viable option.
Does anyone know a fix for this? (Yes, I have roamed through a number of forums and tried the link for 'DisableSyncSchedule', but that did not work.)
I have tried to re-flash the rom a few times, even soft-reset before the HTC stuff installs, stopped GPRS traffic and made sure that the IMAP does not connect. Whatever I do, the problem persists.
I have installed the following: HTC TyTn rom:
- SPB Diary
- SOTI Controller
- mfrazz CommManager
- WMG 3G Video Black Keypad
- GreenBatteryFix
- HTC X-Button
- Pimp my Black
I am loathed to revert to WM5, but if that is the only way foreward, then I might need to.
Any help would be superb!

One other thing
Sorry, meant to say that I am currently running with just the base HTC rom and nothing else installed. Let's see how that goes.

First, The radio should not have anything to do with bluetooth. This is the radio rom for cellular calls, not the BT radio.
BSoD question: Do you have a media card? Have you installed apps on the media card? There have been issues with the media card falling asleep. I had issues in the past installing applicaitons on the card. As make sure that you configure mail NOT to store messages on the media card.
Next....Uninstall all applicaiton that you have installed. Do you still have the problem? IF this fixes the problem, reinstall apps 1 at a time untill you figure out which is causing the problem.

I do have a memory card installed, but no apps are installed from it and the mail attachments are not stored on the card but in the memory. I have recently reset the mobile and have noting installed (not even ext rom) and have only set up mail, sync'd and configured for Orange.
Interesting about the radio having no affect, as it made the Jabra work - no other changes made. (I have re-flashed since then, but still using 1.38 radio rom.)

So I get this all the time, I don't have an SD card - so its not an SD card issue.
I've got 2 Tmobile MDA Vario II's and ever since upgrading from the stock Tmobile rom the phone will hang with a black screen but the message light will blink. If I put the phone in flight mode it never does it.
Its happened on the following roms:
XDA Mobile / Faria's rom
All the Black roms
LVSW
It didn't do it with Tmobile WM5 Rom. Tried various radio updates and it doesn't seem to make any difference. I know Jasjammin mentioned he had seen it but nothing further from him on this.
ITS DRIVING ME NUTS
Some other people must be seeing this also? Please help. When it happens no mails/sms or voice calls so its like the phone is switched off. I too am now looking at downgrading back to WM5
I'm wondering if it might be in the boot loader / rom flasher issue? But I sure I've not done anything others haven't done.
Regards,
Neil.

Bump - nobody else seeing this? Find it hard to believe?!

prophetuser said:
....The big problem is this :- randomly (could be 6 hours, could be ten minutes), the phone does not wake up from sleep. The lights are still flashing (I have not tried calling the phone - I will do that next time), but it will not wake up....
Hi prophetuser
I did notice this issue in the new HTC WM6 ROM (not the dopod one) which you have mentioned. But I flashed my ROM to Black Majik and its cool....I didnt notice this problem.
My device is imate JASJAM. I think the black majik ROM is better, but I noticed one more post in this thread mention all black ROM had the problem as I have not come across it yet.
Maybe the new Black Satin which jasjamming is cooking will not have it and probably you may have to try it, until a new HTC ROM update is leaked I suggest you to use black majik.
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read my post
100% solution

SOD CAUSE
IN my whole 6 months having my hermes i had never had SOD until i flashed the official dopod rom with matt kitchen. when I traced the source that SOD had came from it was a bad extended rom flash i done. This cause the device to go sleep after the screen time out, and also if i put the phone in idle mode i had to soft reset everytime.
i flashed an original operator t-mobile rom with the extended rom and all my problems went away.
My device has never been quicker no more SOD and battery life is superb with the new radio 1.47 after one whole day with normal use with 3g internet I am still on 70% battery life.
Now I have the perfect device and i think hermes WM6 crave and addiction will be thinned out as there is not much you can do now with the hermes as to wait for PROTON or fully integrated touchflo working ROM.
p.s
TRY FLASHED A AN ORIGINAL OPERATOR ROM WITH THE EXTENDED ROM YOU CAN USE ROMKOCH TO EXTRACT THOSE TWO AND FLASHED YOUR ROM BEFORE FLASHING WM6 AND GUANRANTEE YOU WILL SEE AND FEEL A MUCH MORE RESPONSIVE HERMES. THATS MY 2 cents

duttythroy said:
....i had never had SOD until i flashed the official dopod rom with matt kitchen. ....
What is SOD? please mentione as I am new to the terminologies
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SOD= Sleep Of Death

Definition of SOD
1. A piece of dirt and grass, usually found stuck to the bottom of shoes after running (Or walking) On a muddy field.
2. Short for "Sodomy", meaning anal sex, which comes from the Sodomites of Sodom. This term, usually used in a derogatory manner, can be used to say **** off, as in "Sod off" or it can be used as an adjective "That sodding bastard"
3. An idiot, a fool. Someone you dislike.
4. S(Screen/Sleep) O(of) D(death) - Blank screen nothing happens..
Examples
Man, all this sod was stuck on the bottom of my shoe, and even worse, it dried out and now it's hard as a rock!
Look at that sodding bastard over there, scoping out girls he doesn't even have a chance with when they're drunk!
F'ing sod spilt my drink, and i wasn't having any of that!
Arghh FFS !! Me blinkin phones crashed again, I soo hate you SOD's.

loool ripdool . nice definitions

duttythroy said:
IN my whole 6 months having my hermes i had never had SOD until i flashed the official dopod rom with matt kitchen. when I traced the source that SOD had came from it was a bad extended rom flash i done. This cause the device to go sleep after the screen time out, and also if i put the phone in idle mode i had to soft reset everytime.
i flashed an original operator t-mobile rom with the extended rom and all my problems went away.
My device has never been quicker no more SOD and battery life is superb with the new radio 1.47 after one whole day with normal use with 3g internet I am still on 70% battery life.
Now I have the perfect device and i think hermes WM6 crave and addiction will be thinned out as there is not much you can do now with the hermes as to wait for PROTON or fully integrated touchflo working ROM.
p.s
TRY FLASHED A AN ORIGINAL OPERATOR ROM WITH THE EXTENDED ROM YOU CAN USE ROMKOCH TO EXTRACT THOSE TWO AND FLASHED YOUR ROM BEFORE FLASHING WM6 AND GUANRANTEE YOU WILL SEE AND FEEL A MUCH MORE RESPONSIVE HERMES. THATS MY 2 cents
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hi mate, is it possible for you or someone else to give more specific instructions to do this? I am running Sleuths rom which i am v happy with apart from SOD every now and again in the mornings when the phone has not been used for hours whilst i have been sleeping!
thanking you in advance.
yans.