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Has Any one found a program or hack that aloows you to close the running programs when you hit the little X ? It seems simple but Im not sure why they made it so they still run when you close the program for all of the applications. When I pess the X I'm done what about you all?
Dekum of the New Outriders :roll:
Dekum:
Many people have found many ways of doing it. A search will open this world up to you.
Here's a good way to do it though:
http://www.freewareppc.com/utilities/smclose.shtml
As I said, there are other ways, it may be in your interest to get a wider opinion before diving in to smclose.
V
Thanks thats what I was looking for I will let you know how it works.
I use one called Close All. Basically a red X that when executed will close all running apps. Very handy. Much quicker than Start>Settings>System>Memory>Running Programs>Stop All.
I've tried a lot of these and all suffer the problem of not being able to close the phone dialer and most bork some how. ActiveSync can also be a pain closing, but some tools are better than others.
My personal favs are:
vbar: http://www.vieka.com/vbar.htm
magicbutton: http://www.trancreative.com/mb.aspx
I've stuck with magicbutton til I find something that reliably closes the apps above and provides it's simplicity and functionality. I use the battery meter it provides as I have the systray off (until I find something remotely useful for that area). Also I can hide dialer and async and also set them to keep alive, which both keeps them happy and me not seeing them unless I want to
Anyways, plenty of choices, most can be found on google using a search phrase like "pocketpc task manager" or ppc... etc. Gl.
any programs that could be customized (we can choose) whether if we like to close it or just minimize it?
eg: for file explorer if we tap close button then it will close the application, but for messaging if we tap close button then it only minimize it.
yeah many pda programs dont like being terminated in that way
doing it just after sending a sms is giving ppl problems with 2 sms's sendt and sms iron not going away from the title bar
other programs would prob also act up thinking of data not being saved correct
since i suspect some pda programs only really save in when they are closed the normal way as in by the OS
I did try the magicbutton and it seem to work better than the smclose I havnt tried the other yet let know and thanks for the help all this is a great source of information for the 8125 and htc phones.
Thumbs way up!!!!
Vap: VJOkButt has a specific mode for closing the phone, -phclose.
It will close the phone, but it's not advisable to close the phone because it introduces a minor incompatibility - trying to dial from the contacts app will cause problems. However, if you never do this, it'll save you a few 100k.
I've also written two apps specifically to close the phone, I think one if VJPhoneToggle or something.
Again, closing activesync is not advisable because if you're connected through GPRS/Wifi etc, it'll hangup your connection. In most use the app will be hidden from view anyway. VJOkButt ignores ActiveSync.
V
The title is a bit of a provocation to attract people to the thread
To start with: animation, menus, etc... are quite fluid (Though less than on my M2D custom Rom on my Hermes, but that's not my point here, secreen def is much higher and it's 3D...)
My problem (that mya have I fix, at least I hope so) is quite specific:
In some menus accessing to data is VERY slow and I dont understand why
1. When accessing to a contact (So clicking from the lists of contats) it takes several seconds to have the contact details appear. This is VERY annoying. Does it come from my numer of contacts (900), I dont think so... It looks a bit like something is being downloaded, or some extra info put in memory... difficult to tell but anywya I would like to kow if you have the same problem
2. When accessing SMS from Manilla 3d... it takes ages to open the first SMS in the pile or to open "All messages". It's quite weird: if I swap through the task manager to the SMS application... it switches in an instant. If I have the SMS application already open and try to access it through the manila 3D...
(I have quite a lot of SMS, but less than emails, or which it is less slow)
I noticed some similar slowlyness in some otehr parts but just cant remeber where
Otherwise to bith about about Manilla 3D (that I do still really like... at least froma "look" point of view): too many important menus are missing compared to WM6.1 original menus. Like choose which folder you can activesync within your email folders, or save a phone number from a newly received SMS into an existing contact (Can only sve in a new one...). Etc, etc...
Anyway to chose which original WM6.1 menus are prompted / not prompted ?
To address your pts...
1. I think the lag has to do with the new "People-centric" contact card. It take a little time to gather all emails, calls, and messages with a particular person. You probably won't experience this lag if you use the default Windows Mobile contact app.
2. What I mentioned in 1 applies here too. So, I never click the messages directly in TF3D because this actually opens the contact card. I keep the messaging app opened at all times. Just click All Messages to quickly see the threaded conversation if you have to. If you use "Reply" from TF3D, the composing window will also open faster (if you have the messaging app opened already)
1. Agreed that's what I suspect... But I dont have the proof. Yes the default Windows Mobile App is much faster
There must be a workaround like starting to open what is immediately available for the contact while loading the rest in the bakground
Unfortunately this may be a litle too deep and needs a different code --> not fixable with some regedit
Hopefully we are wrong. The "people-centric" thing is on of the reason why I like the TP2 (Definitely not the only one) and if this means waiting 3 to 4 seconds to open a contact, HTC just ****ed up on it (It's not acceptable when you need to open several contacts)
2. Yes I use already only "All message" since clicking on the message takes ages to open
BUT even "All messages" is still very slow compared to open the messaging app (I do always keep the messaging app open)
All in all it's nice to offer good looking features, but if the price is such a sluggishness I think there is nothing to be proud of
Luckily HTC will improve this with time (But still, it's really annoying)
Alcibiade said:
... waiting 3 to 4 seconds to open a contact...
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Haha, you must be exaggerating. Just to keep things sane around here, the time lag is about 1 second to open the unified communications contact card. This is compared to the approximately 0.5 seconds to open the contact details in the default WinMo contact app. If you try to open the SMS or Email section of the contact card, it does take about 2-3 seconds...
Alcibiade said:
BUT even "All messages" is still very slow compared to open the messaging app (I do always keep the messaging app open)
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Not sure what you mean on this part. Doesn't clicking "All messages" in TF3D open the default messaging app?
Then I must have a problem with my device (or my ocntacts (I have nearly 1,000). I just tried one contact right now from the list of all contacts: 12 seconds (Yeah befoire I was just giving an estimate...). I tried anoterh one , 17 seconds... (Piture or no picture doesnt change anything)
These figures is rom opening a contact from the list of all contacts in TF3D
I guess you understand how annoyd I am... And cliking on "Back" to come back from the list of contacts to the main menu (WHer you see "Add favorites") takes 5 seconds
I really hope to find a solution...
For the last part, sorry my mistake it's when I click on the messages tab that it takes around 4 seconds to have the messages menu and I na click on the bottom left menu "All messages" (Then after it's quick)
I have a serious problem with my TF3D...
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Haha, you must be exaggerating. Just to keep things sane around here, the time lag is about 1 second to open the unified communications contact card. This is compared to the approximately 0.5 seconds to open the contact details in the default WinMo contact app. If you try to open the SMS or Email section of the contact card, it does take about 2-3 seconds...
Not sure what you mean on this part. Doesn't clicking "All messages" in TF3D open the default messaging app?
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The very interesting thing is if I open the same contact by clicking at its name from let's say an email, it's nearly instantaneous (like half a second)
What's wrong with my phone ?? Anybody with the same issue ?
your insane amount of contacts are prolly slowing everything down.
a 1000 contacs is normal, i have more than 1500 on my TP2
its true that TF3D sometimes slow, i mean, those things sometimes happen also to me, but not always, only sometimes, maybe when the TP2 processess a lot or memory almost done for
1000 contacts is alot but this is a business device so that really shouldnt be a problem imho.
Though I doubt WM uses any kind of clever database method for storing them, not like SQL Server mobile is installed on the phone with Intel QuadCore, so I think some slowdown is to be expected mate tbh
Yes it's a professional device 1,000 contacts should not be an issue (Actually it's mostly friends, but let's say that for a geek I enjoy quite a crazy social life)
Anyway it was handled properly on my Hermes with Manilla 2D. I am very disapointed it is not the case with the TP2
Again the very strange thing is if I open the contact by clicking on name in my emails title, I get the contact file to open nearly immediately. If it's from the list of contacts... 10 seconds at least. This doenst make sense
and I hate the fact that you have to "slide" to accept/reject the call. I mean come on, it's cool and all that but it's not user friendly!
So many times my calls got missed because a friend didn't understand how to accept the call for me (it was too late whenever they read that "Slide to Answer/Ignore" text)
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and I hate the fact that you have to "slide" to accept/reject the call. I mean come on, it's cool and all that but it's not user friendly!
So many times my calls got missed because a friend didn't understand how to accept the call for me (it was too late whenever they read that "Slide to Answer/Ignore" text)
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Ha! you don't necessary have to slide to "Answer the call". You can always just press the hardware Answer button (left answer call key) to answer it. That will solved your problem
Anybody on my open contact issue ?
Going from a TyTnII to a Touch Pro 2 a few bug & short comings become obvious in the TouchFlo interface.
Home
The Date is only in US format, it ignores the region settings on the device
The alarm frequently doesn’t go off
The region settings if you change home city around midnight it will show day for original home city as yesterday but not as tomorrow
The calendar only shows today & tomorrow, the is no way to change this to the next 3 – 5 – 7 days
You can’t add tasks or anything else to the list
People
It’s fiddly to thumb through the contacts without accidently selecting one, & the side images are very fiddly
Go to All People find someone, select a number call them, but no answer. Go back to get another number & you have to start all over again, rather than still being on the same contact or even that same place in the list
Messages
It takes too long (5 seconds) for a message to change to read. Sending a contact by 3G it goes as MMS not SMS which it does when working just in Windows 6.1
If it’s a long message you can’t scroll up / down
The tab to enable the predictive 4 words is missing, only being enabled in the registry, possibly related but full querty keeps changing to a numbers only keypad or HKLM\Software\Tegic\eT9\Ime.change CurrentET9Style from 0 to 1
Internet
Once active it doesn’t time out after any time. Hence opening you up to extra data charges & lower battery life
(If you want to stop it auto connecting, just put a user name but now password in the connections setting)
Calendar
No week view
Music
Takes a long time to load
No ABC list at side (as in contacts) with 5GB of music it’s a lot of scrolling
Library only shows those on Device unless you change it in WMP.
Camera
Why isn’t the 5 MP like the touch HD?
Why isn’t the GPS location enabled to start, rather than having to go into the registry
Stocks
I don’t know as I don’t do them
Settings
This looks better in 2.5
Buttons
Only one can be remapped – I use Phone button long hold to get into Windows 6.1
A number of games, while in the game could be remapped for left right turn fire
Software
Record isn’t there – so no more voice memos / call record mid call
Also there wasn’t a radio, but thanks to http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=521356 there is & it even has RDS, but more than 6 memories would be nice.
Even if it has a radio it still needs TMC for the traffic update in the CoPilot 7 GPS
Why when you upgrade 6.0 to 6.1 & I guess to 6.5 the whole device gets wiped, you have to load all the software again and there is no way of keeping scores or levels.
I had a TREO & the software took a normal back up, then apply that to a replacement & you can’t see the difference. Why can’t Windows backup do this?
Voice Recorder & Radio : it all depends on where you get your device. Mine comes with both.
Upgrade ROM wipes everything : that has always been the case with Pocket PC, not just with wm6
Wow, that's a long rant. But a lot of the stuff can be addressed or will be in the next revision of TF3D.
cjatcti said:
The Date is only in US format, it ignores the region settings on the device
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You can change the date format with Advanced Config tool.
cjatcti said:
The region settings if you change home city around midnight it will show day for original home city as yesterday but not as tomorrow
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This is a little weak. You're deliberately doing something that a normal person would not normally do just to try to trick the device. I'm not buying this rant.
cjatcti said:
The calendar only shows today & tomorrow, the is no way to change this to the next 3 – 5 – 7 days
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Really should search for such a common issue.
cjatcti said:
You can’t add tasks or anything else to the list
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You can use Manila Today.
cjatcti said:
It’s fiddly to thumb through the contacts without accidently selecting one, & the side images are very fiddly
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This will be fixed with Manila v2.5
cjatcti said:
Go to All People find someone, select a number call them, but no answer. Go back to get another number & you have to start all over again, rather than still being on the same contact or even that same place in the list
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Use the phone app. IMHO, it's not as flashy but faster to search for a name in the phone app. Just type the person's name either with the dialpad or slideout keyboard.
cjatcti said:
Once active it doesn’t time out after any time. Hence opening you up to extra data charges & lower battery life
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Opera does time out on me quite a bit. If it takes too long to read from a site, it gives the 500 error timeout. Anyway, you can choose to completely kill Opera from your running programs. Search for it if it really bothers you. I think someone from the Topaz forum figured it out.
cjatcti said:
No week view
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Fixed in Manila v2.5
cjatcti said:
Takes a long time to load
No ABC list at side (as in contacts) with 5GB of music it’s a lot of scrolling
Library only shows those on Device unless you change it in WMP.
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I have quite a bit of music on my SD card and it doesn't take an annoyingly amount of time to load. Besides, when it's loading, your device is still very much functional.
There should be a search function to find a particular song. But I think it fine as long as all your music are tagged appropriately so that you can search via album or artist.
The library shows all music in your SD card and in your My Music folder in main memory. I don't see anything wrong with this setup. Where else would you want the library to look?
cjatcti said:
Record isn’t there – so no more voice memos / call record mid call
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Record is still there. It just no longer has a dedicated program link. Just go to Notes. Go to menu-view recording toolbar.
cjatcti said:
Why when you upgrade 6.0 to 6.1 & I guess to 6.5 the whole device gets wiped, you have to load all the software again and there is no way of keeping scores or levels.
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This a little annoying. But I take this as an opportunity to clean out my device. I put organize all files into their respective folders, decide whether or not a particular app is useful enough to be reinstalled, etc.
Thank you for the reply & the links, I wasn’t trying to rant, just list the easily fixable short comings in one place & possibly HTC might get them fixed in a future release. I know it can be fun tinkering to improve, but I believe it should work out of the box.
Kitchens should be for extras
Time Zone Bug in the touch flow interface.
To avoid Outlook moving the times of my flights as the time zones change, I tell the phone not to auto update time zone & just change the time in my home town.
So when I arrived in Poland, I set my home town Cheltenham time on an hour. Later I discovered that the Phone had added GMT +1 Berlin & ignored the Warszawa time zone I had set.
When I came back to the US, turned on my phone looked later & it was asking me to select a city.
1) The problem with Outlook changing appointment times to suit time zones is just plane wrong.
2) Yet again Touch flow ignores a windows interface setting
3) It should at least ask you if it wants to change
4) It should look to see if you have a city in country you are in already selected instead of just adding more World Clock entries
you are saying that the week view is fixed in 2.5? is this out now or coming soon?
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frozenbutt said:
you are saying that the week view is fixed in 2.5? is this out now or coming soon?
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Of course, not officially released by HTC yet. But then, Windows Mobile 6.5 isn't officially released either and that didn't stop people from getting it on our devices...
So on 01/01, I upgraded from my 2 year old 8525 (no mods done to it) to a ATT Tilt 2; and so far here is my issues/things I need help with/report:
Within the first 20 days of the 30 day return period, the SMS notification audible stopped working on sent messages. The notification on the screen still showed on the bottom just no sound. No setting change or soft reset fixed. No other issues before that point.
Got new phone.
Within 5 days on phone number two, the phone would default to SMS tree view (view is found by going to messages in touchflo and selecting 'All Messages' from the bottom left.) Would move TouchFlo to Home screen (my background that shows clock, date, etc.), hit the power key to power save, hit power key to power up, and then on SMS tree view, not my home screen. Didn't matter how long after I manually put phone in power save, it would still not default to homepage screen. Only consistently did this when I manually used the power button to put in power save. When I locked the phone and put in power save no issues, or it was random. When the phone went into power save by itself after my 2 minutes delay, the issue was random. This phone also froze on me twice upon in the SMS function.
Got new phone yesterday.
So far no issues.
So I'm on phone number 3, with the first 2 having software issues.
No mods to any of the phones (yet), and if this phone has issues, I have option to return and pay no restocking fee and get a different phone (probably an iPhone 16GB at this point, as much as I don't want one), or start downloading new manillas, cabs, and shells for this one.
Is there any updates out there I am missing, or anything else I am missing.
I've got my Cox Email (a POP3 push), my Hotmail, and my Yahoo Email (as an IMAP, it defaulted the setup that way) setup, and no other real changes. Using my old microSD card (1GB) that's got songs, audio clips, and pics/vids on it.
I saw the thread on att wireless forums for the update on an SMS freezing issue, not sure if relates to any of my issues, or if I should go ahead and upload to number 3 phone I currently have anyways. And should I upload other fix as well, eventhough I never saw issues with caller id on first 2 phones (coming in as unknown even though contact is calling you). Haven't had third phone long enough to discern any issues yet.
More info: I always have touchflo active
What do I need to do to get things on this phone to make sure it doesn't mess up? Other things one would suggest to customize the phone?
I WANT THE MOST GLITCH FREE POSSIBLE PHONE
Thanks
and sorry for the newb questions
Also to note:
I am technology illiterate. Simple explanations of every step is needed for me.
Also to note, I have a laptop that is running Vista 64bit and I have not uploaded the ActiveSync software to my laptop yet
my brother mentioned something to me about a PIM? for backup?
I can't speak to all the other issues you've seen, but AT&T packs a lot of bloat-ware on the stock ROM they put on the Tilt2, and it's usually stuff that users have no need for.
There's a utility at this thread that will sweep all that junk off in one swipe, you'll find it frees up a good amount of the available memory in the phone:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=587637&highlight=crud+scraper
Okay. Thanks for the reply.
Something I want to do is get rid of all the crap I don't want, including but not limited to:
- all demo stuff
- the music files that came on the phone (artists: Chris Hawkes, Pacha Massive, Sidestepper)
- AT&T Navigator
- WorldCard Mobile
anything that is not related to phone, text, email, internet, my photos and music from my card, Facebook, stocks, weather = rest of it gone
I was reading in the sticky threads on how to do what and was still confusing and it scared me from doing anything to this phone, but I know I need to do things to clean it up and make it run better
Can anyone give me an idiot, idiot, to the supreme idiot guide on how to do what I need to do?
1. Upload ActiveSync to my laptop (not done yet) (my laptop runs Vista 64bit)
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All I want to do is make the phone run better and fix glitches, and not have any glitches in doing this.
Thanks
After I do steps 1 - whatever,
should I install hotfix for unknown caller id and freezing SMS issue
htp://forums.wireless.att.com/cng/board/message?board.id=cingular&thread.id=125218
or would another thing from someone else resolve this?
Maybe what I learned will help?
Have a look at this thread, and see if it helps you.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=625730
Good luck!
yeah it was a help thanks for the reply, but it wasn't a help.
as you see above, i haven't even put the activesync software on my laptop. so after i do that, what do i need to do first to get that crud+scraper and other things on my phone?
idiots guide please
what i need to do in what order is very confusing to me. all of this is confusing to me
i just want my phone to be less bloated and work properly with no issues. i think i have seen the caller id issue and not sure if i'm still getting the sms tree issue i saw on phone #2 i just replaced
The order is listed.
Hi again,
Yes, go ahead and get activesync on your computer 1st thing
then, Look at post #9. Do it in that order.
The .net 3.5 mentioned can be found here:
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...49-3C6B-42F1-9FD9-0041345B3385&displaylang=en
Just download that, and run it while your phone is connected to activesync. It will put .net 3.5 on your phone. Next, copy the 3 files for crud scraper onto the phone somewhere you can find it, like my documents (on your PC, you'll need to right-click, copy, then right click, paste). Once the files are on the phone, just find the folder you put them in and click on the 'poop' icon. You can then clean off all the crap you want by checking the boxes.
So,
#1 Get activesync
#2 get .net 3.5
#3 run crudscraper
#4 I highly recommend SPB mobile shell. (google it) It just makes much easier to navigate the phone. There is a free 15 day trial.
#5 any of the other apps I mentioned are good.
That should get you started.
thanks for the reply subterran
subterran:
any thoughts to my homepage/message tree issue that occured with #2, and mow occuring with #3 phone I currently have? Thanks
the phone would default to SMS tree view (view is found by going to messages in touchflo and selecting 'All Messages' from the bottom left.) Would move TouchFlo to Home screen (my background that shows clock, date, etc.), hit the power key to power save, hit power key to power up, and then on SMS tree view, not my home screen. Didn't matter how long after I manually put phone in power save, it would still not default to homepage screen. Only consistently did this when I manually used the power button to put in power save. When I locked the phone and put in power save no issues, or it was random. When the phone went into power save by itself after my 2 minute delay, the issue was random.
Well I got my hands on the most advanced operating system
It is nice but a bit annoying unfortunately. I have some questions about it guys and hope you will be able to help me.
For starters the Gmail app is crashing all the time 'stopped unexpectedly', maybe because I told it not to sync, but come on I can't even open it. I use the exchange and if I tell gmail to sync I just get my emails twice which is annoying.
For some reason the thing decided that I want my facebook contacts in my dialer. Unfortunately I don't. When I linked them to some real people it named them however it wanted without giving me the option to rename my own contacts. And I don't want facebook contacts in all people. So I factory reset it and told it not to sync them, but then I can't associate my actual contacts with facebook. I mean the fracking thing wants to do what it wants and I want it to do what I want .
Can I have more screens on sense - like in winmo sense?
Then I don't have a simple file browser, why , the BT file transfer is not working, or just not available, no mp3 for ringtone or I missed something, my 6 and a half year old crap symbian nokia has both bt and mp3?
I can't seem to make it auto attach to the HSDPA network, don't know why, no such setting
Why does all the software makes folders wherever it wants, all over the sd card, without even bothering to ask my opinion
I installed 3-4 apps including the missing file browser and bt transfer, plus some more basic stuff sat nav and now I'm running out of space, why
Don't get me wrong, android is alright, I didn't wrote here to bash it or something, just to share another thing below
Ever since the dream came out I read what a great os android is, now I get it 3 years later and I find it lacks some basic functionality I had many years ago on my crap symbian. I was with winmo the past 4 years, it has flaws, but it's mail client hasn't crashed once, and I can't even open Gmail app on Google OS. I can't even imagine what was the expirience for the dream owners. The other thing, I am not a programmer, but I have used linux before, and calling this thing linux is like if I call my house a skyscraper.
Anyway if someone has a solution for my problems I will be really grateful guys
Ok I'll kick this off:
Gmail app crashes - Well mine doesn't and never has if you have factory reset and its still doing it then maybe try looking to see if it a problem with using exchange at the same time.
More Screens - The desire has 7 home screens 2 to the left and 2 to the right which can be viewed by swiping left and right, pinching the screen as in a zoom out method or pressing the home button.
No File browser - yeah your right install Astro
No Auto HSDDPA - Not sure about this as mine just does any more info?
Random FOlders - Yeah this is very annoying maybe version 3 will address this
Lack of Space - the phone has limited internal storage and all appds install to it. Version 2.2 is now being rolled out which allows installation to the SD card which will give more room. The Sat nav stuff is huge and will be why you are running out so quick. That along with the carp the network operator has shoved on there so debrand asap.
Its not linux - you're right its based on it though. A full blown linux install would frighten most ppl though so they have installed a nice UI to cover up the complex stuff.
Thanks
The gmail app crashed less (1 of 3 times) if I actually synced mail with it and every time if I sync only contacts
I know about the 7 screens, just wished for more -10 for instance, I've been using smartphones for quite a while
Hsdpa can be on or off, it can't be off and then connect by itself if something needs it.
Its weird but 3 mobile didn't put any crap inside, or at least it is not in the apps part. Actually I had to download the crap by myself as it was skype, which I wanted to have anyway
I am still unsure about rooting it, as it looks like I won't be able to achieve much, alright I'll have a terminal, but I need to use it for something
The device says it has 147MB for software, sat nav 2x11-12MB + crap on sd card, some other minor stuff - file explorer, bt transfer, taskmanager, dictionary with database on sd, goggles haven't tried it yet, flashlight, skype, win messenger, google earth and it's at 75%
hope this helps and thanks again for the advice
Hi Again I am stuck on the gmail issue and unfortunately there are only 7 home screens.
You may try Data On Demand app that may do something like what you need for the data.
I wouldn't bother with rooting as like you say its not really necessary and has few advantages other than backup.
I know Google earth is huge but it does appear like you should only of used around 60 to 70 Meg or 50% from the stuff you list Mind you I think a lot of the system apps like weather etc may use some of that memory but cant be uninstalled but I could be wrong on this.
If you're going to get the best out of this phone you have to give in to google.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
Yeah, thanks, in programs there is the data consumption of all apps, surprisingly, the browser has used 7,84MB of max allowed 6MB cache, now I know what's wrong with the space
Do you have any idea about the contacts+facebook issue? For example a .conf I can edit or something else
Btw I knew about these issues in 1.5 (bt,storage,file explorer), but I tought they were fixed over 3 years. I haven't read much about them, except how great android was and now i feel like a kid without icecream
@Mark One - What do you mean by this, if I wanted a device which did what it wanted, I would have bought an istick. Linux has always been doing what I told it even if it lead it to crash. It's just a phone if I don't get along with it I'll just get another one.
Err the facebook issue I dont have cos i dont use it but I do know that if you press phone and press the option on the bottom left to show all people then you can press the menu key which allows the selection of the "View" option where you can set "only show contacts with phone numbers" maybe this will help?
Froyo or version 2.2 of android has just been released which addresses the storage problem but not the others
I found this, it ditches most of the FB contacts, but leaves the ones which have phone numbers entered in their profiles, that is in the dialer only. I'll keep digging on this one.
Alright, I rooted the thing with unrevoked and the hboot 0.83 recovery image, installed froyo open desire sense + 5.xx radio. Unfortunately everything is the same, only skype is not working now. I formated the sdcard but the thing only lets me move a couple of small apps on it. Sat nav doesn't want to be on the sd, is this only me?
My mobile network is blocking sites with xxx content, unfortunately it is blocking some which don't have. I tried to change the user agent of the browser, it didn't work. If anyone has any idea about this
Now I debranded and rooted what do I do next