IIi versus IIs topic. I need some advise? - MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 General

Hi
I have used an XDA 1 up until recently and loved it. I used a wired GPS with tomtom3 and it worked well.
I asked O2 which one I should buy. XDA IIs or IIi based on the fact I wanted Wi_Fi and to use wireless GPS with tomtom3. The support guy said 'go for IIi as it's the latest and best, supporting bluetooth for tomtom'.
I ordered the IIi and a 1 year contract from O2. It arrived and I unpacked it and low and behold, it would not install with tomtom3. 'Unkown System Architecture' was the error. I spoke with TomTom and they said IIi is not supported, only the II and IIs..... Great :?
I now either wait to see if TomTom3 add IIi to their compatible list OR i revert to the IIs. This is my question... Should I wait, or go for the IIs?
I must say for the record though.... I am impressed with the IIi and Wi-Fi but general build quality is dissapointing. The software is buggy and the camera is utterly useless and quite simply not worth using on the camera. It gives black images which are just useless. The build of the actual phone is tinny and the battery duration is terrible. Compared to my XDA, the phone runs out rapidly.
Bit of a nightmare now as I dont know whether I am better off waiting for IIi to be supported or exchange for the IIs.
??????? DOH!
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anybody tried both?

I'd send it back to O2 under the 14 Day Money Back and get yourself an XDA IIs, I run BT TomTom 3 on my XDA IIs works a treat even without the Broadcom Patch.
Although to use a BT Headset I needed the Patch.
Good Luck

Bluetooth
Thanks nixonm
I'm certainly considering it... I have 7 days left to decide... Just seems a shame to not have the latest one, although I actually prefer the look of the black IIs.
I have heard the bluetooth is slightly intermittent on the IIs, although the specs look the same on my-xda.com.
I assume you dont find this to recommend the IIs. Are you running this with the tomtom bluetooth GPS receiver?

I am using a Fortuna ClipOn Bluetooth GPS, had no problems connecting it to the XDA IIs.
Had loads of problems with my Motorola HS810 bluetooth headset, until I installed the Bluetooth patch from the FTP site.
The lastest ROM release just released by O2 fixes this also.
I looked at the O2 XDA IIi too, but it's slightly wider & taller, no keyboard and silver, plus the TomTom issues.

im running tomtom navigator 3 fine on my xda2i with a bt gps - i've not seen that problem you are having.
fyi my rom versions...
rom version 1.10.00 WWE
dated 12/24/04
radio 1.00.00
protocol : 1337.39
ext rom version 1.10.124 WWE

maltloaf said:
im running tomtom navigator 3 fine on my xda2i with a bt gps - i've not seen that problem you are having.
fyi my rom versions...
rom version 1.10.00 WWE
dated 12/24/04
radio 1.00.00
protocol : 1337.39
ext rom version 1.10.124 WWE
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Very interesting! I have been speaking with TomTom themselves and they said it wasn't on their compatability list. I tried installing TomTom3 and it warned of Unknown Architecture. I even tried the 3.07 upgrade installer which tomtom provided and they wouldnt work. My ROM versions are identical to yours.
I am happy with what you have said though as it gives me some hope to get it running on the IIi. I will try re-installing once again on the IIi.
Thanks

if it helps, I havent tried anything newer than ttn3 version 3.02 - was going to try the 3.07 update later today. I'll get a pic of it running on my 2i up somewhere when i get a chance so you know im not making it up !!
good luck !
malty

hope im ok uploading pics.... please delete if not. Excuse the mucky greenhouse .. its not mine

Cheers for that maltloaf
I didn't disbelieve you anyway, but those images will help me when dealing with TomTom as you clearly have it running. I did think it was odd how the IIs used the same OS as IIi, but mine just doesn't like the install.
I am going to try a hard reset to factory conditions and then re-install.
Cheers for your info.

I also have TT3 3.02 on my XDA2i, in one car i use a cradel with a wired GPS and in my car i use a leadtek Bluetooth all with no problems, but i did try the 3.07 and it stoped working, ( ithink i know why that is tho )
John

I also have the TomTom V3 with bluetooth working on my XDA IIi works great, better that running it on XDA IIs.
My advice would be to stick to the XDA IIi.

>>>>DANGER<<<<
Allways stay away from the XDA IIs!!!
It is hazardous to your wallet! :lol:
>>>>DANGER<<<<

Wheaaah! Success!
FINALLY..... It works!
I re-installed from another disc using 3.03 and once again it warned me stating that this version of windows was un-supported and might not display properly :? However, I ingnored it and installed the UK maps and then the 3.07 upgrade. It worked!
BONUS>>> I now have it operational with Bluetooth so I am pleased.
Thanks for your help and comments.
Regards
Justin

Related

O2 in "possibly got it right with IIs" shock

So the IIs's (what IS the plural of IIs??) arrived today so serious playi.... er ... product familiarisation has begun.
First off, the colour of the O2 version is very nice (I think the II is looking old fashioned already). The case is ok (I'm not a case fan, I prefer to just lug it around in my pocket).
The keyboard is probably far too fiddly to ever get used by my normal sized pinkies but the blue backlight means that it will look good next to my PS2 even without BT turned on!!!!
The software seems to be up to scratch too, they've even added a decent battery life monitor to the Active and Today screens (The Active screen actually seems fairly usefull this time round!). Not had much of a play with the additional software, apart from those that came with the latest Xda II ROM upgrade ("phone Alison" ....... why is it dialing Colin??), but the GPRS monitor is a welcome addition.
Now onto what, for me, is the most essential part - WiFi and Bluetooth. Let's not beat around the bush, the II was rubbish for both, only really with the latest ROM was the II capable of anything like decent performance with BT Headsets and still didn't support Handsfree. As for WiFi, I used a Sandisk SD card with my II and it was a pain to connect.
Whilst waiting for the release of the IIs we've been playing with iPaq 4150's which have great BT & WiFi tools that even our execs could use!
*WiFi*
Turned the phone on at home and it immediatly sniffed my network (Linksys router) and asking to connect prompted me for my encryption key followed by faultless connection to the internet. Exxxxcelent
*Bluetooth*
My boss had a Nokia CK-7W carkit fitted a few weeks ago, oh how we laughed when the latest II ROM still rendered the II useless in his car!!!! So it was with slight trepidation that we turned the ignition on only for the IIs to find/bond and work perfectly with the kit at first time of asking.
So all in all I'd say that O2 must have actually been listening to us after all (despite not updating the website FAQ's properly since the original Xda). We have a few very good contacts within O2 and had seen a fair amount of info prior to release and received assurances on the above functionality, but I have to say that I didn't believe it till I saw it all with my own eyes!!
Now for some serious testing to see if it's beauty goes further than skin deep
Re: O2 in "possibly got it right" shock
Nice report
irblinx said:
...("phone Alison" ....... why is it dialing Colin??)...
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:lol: similar experience when my friend was trying out the Fonix voice stuff on his XDA II. We were in stitches at his attempts to phone my mobile (with "Phone Dave Mobile") and it either not understanding or coming up with a suggestion which was hard to see why it thought it sounded like it. It even suggested a number for my friend's expletive of "Oh f**k this" :roll:
lol,fonix is hours of fun for all the family ........... cos it could ring any one of them when you're trying to phone your boss!
The next big test for the IIs will be the built in BT phone kit in the 5 series BMW, hopefully one of our directors will be around today to give it a go.
does the bluetooth in new XDA IIs support audio through your headset?
it would be great if it did, but i doubt it
WiFi / gprs bridging
Can the gprs internet connection be shared out through the WiFi? I'd like my notebook to see it as an access point and use it's network access. Never got this to work with xdaII bluetooth and my powerbook, Apple's BT stack doesn't recognize the widcomm bt "server".
I'll buy one tomorrow if it can bridge the 802.11 and the gprs!
Audio through your headset? not sure what you're wanting it to do here but I'll list the options on the BT new connection Wizard
Hands-free/Headset Setup
ActiveSync
Browse Files on a remote device
Connect to a network
Join a personal network
Exchange Business Cards
Explore a Bluetooth device
As for sharing the GPRS connection via WiFi, it may be possible if you set the connection on the Xda to NOT connect to the internet, otherwise the WiFi settings seem to overide GPRS. Sorry not much help! Couldn't you link them up with BT instead?
GOOD NEWS though
Successfully paired up the IIs with a BMW X5's built in BT phone stuff so it's another tick in the box for O2
Can you hear your MP3's or tomtom voice through your bluetooth headset?
no
irblinx said:
So the IIs's (what IS the plural of IIs??) arrived today so serious playi.... er ... product familiarisation has begun.
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Hi there
great report
just a quick question..........I have been ringing o2 daily to enquire about the arrival and keep getting told that it is 'next week'........where did you get your unit from ?? I tried o2 Salisbury on Thursday and they told me that they hadn't received a release date yet !!
cheers!
The phone is out at o2 now, has been since late Thursday evening. It will not be in the stores until Wed/Thu next week.
just call up and order it. I did
Could somebody with the XDAIIs please post the extended Rom files.
churchwa said:
The phone is out at o2 now, has been since late Thursday evening. It will not be in the stores until Wed/Thu next week.
just call up and order it. I did
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Just rang o2....allegedly it will leave tomorrow for delivery Tuesday !!!
thanks for letting me know !
NP, what sort of a deal did they give you? (If you don't mind me asking?)
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Could somebody with the XDAIIs please post the extended Rom files.
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I would also need them... please
I ordered ours through our dedicated o2 business team at the beginning of the week, as our commodity manager sent us the product code when the launch got delayed (internal pakaging problems!). The advantages of working for a big company with a corporate o2 deal!
Price wise we don't do so well on hardware, prob cos we pay next to nothing for line rental, I think they were 350 gbp each (ever noticed how u don't pay as much attention when it's not your money?), all "in contract upgrades". I'll double check when I get to work.
Anyhoo, a big box arrived on Thurs and opening it revealed 11 cool gadgets! Still waiting for the accessories to be released though.
I'll check for the cab file later.
Could somebody with the XDAIIs please post the extended Rom files
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How to do it?
Unlock extRom using the unlock tool attached.
reset device
Browse to the extended rom from your desktop computer and copy the files - zip them up and post them here.
is extended rom unlocker the same for Himalaya and Blue Angel?
It unhides both, but it doesn't unlock the Blue Angel. But you can copy the files out of the extROM once you can see them.

BMW Driver's Please help

Hi guys,
Just found this forum and it looks great. Anyhow, i'm the middle of buying my first ever phone/pda and have decided to go for the TMobile MDA III/xda iii.
I have one major issue that needs answering prior to buying it and hopefully someone here might be able to assist.
I drive a 320d sport touring 2004 model, this has the standard bmw business tape player but also has the Bluetooth Phone option installed by factory, currently it works like a dream with my Nokia 6310i.
So, my questions is, Does anyone know if the mda iii would work in my car.
I have tried many BMW forums including bmwland/e46fans etc etc and no one can give me a answer, i have also checked the X5 forum however its not listed on there list.
I hope someone can assist as its the only thing holding me back on buying the unit.
Thanks to all.
Roger
Well I would say to give it a go, there shouldnt be any reason why it wouldnt work. If it didn't work and you bought it from an o2 shop you always have 14 days return guarantee. I have a BMW 7 series but didnt go for the bluetooth option as I have the wired factory telephone kit fitted but just give it a go.
s1nn0n
No waY. The MDA III does not work reliably with BMW bluetooth. I've spend hours patching the darn thing. Sometimes it works, most times it doesnt. Somethings badly screwed up here.
stick the widcomm bluetooth drivers on the phone, I bet ur using the crappy microsoft bluetooth stack!
I had the Xda IIs working in an X5 with the standard BT kit, although it occasionally decides to disconnect. No such luck with the iDrive version of BMWs BT kit, pairs up but doesn't work at all. I can't really recommend it for use with a beamer, maybe after the first ROM update is released!
From previous posts on here I'd say the MDA version of the phone has even worse BT so definitely don't go there!
thanks for the reply guy's.
have decided to go for it anyway as i need somethng like a phone / pda.
Cheers

upgrade to orbit? yes or no?

o2 have offered me an upgrade from my IIi to the orbit. As some of you have been using the orbit for a little while is it all it's cracked up to be?
and does tomtom work ok with the orbit and the built in gps reciever?
cheers guys
Go for it you will love it if not sell it many will be after it if you don't like it.
Or you could wait for the zinc (feb 07 or so) if you can do without the gps in-built?
There is an issue with MicroSD's that possibly dosnt effect all units. See other threads.
Apart from that and if you clock it to 250MHz it works extremely well. I loved my BlueAngel but even my old stylus feels fat now. The jog dial / track ball is mega and internal GPS a breeze. The slower CPU also has the benefit of longer battery life.
I am currently looking for one for a friend on eBay and they are going for £300+ so if you dont like it can always sell and keep old phone...
ps. I use a Sandisk UltraII 2gb MicroSD which may speed up map access etc, its generally slightly slower than my 500MHz BlueAngel but no problem.
I'm a new user of the Xda Orbit, my first WM PDA after owning a tapwave zodiac and the first phone I can really type text messages on. For a PDA it's light, snappy (my last wm device was a Compaq Aero 15xx), has an excellent battery life and the GPS works a treat.
The biggest benefit is the size, though, compared to the other similarly featured Xda's in the o2 lineup this one is TINY, it dropped the jaws of my techy colleagues to the floor.
I find TomTom to be pretty fast and accurate getting a fix, route calculations are fast enough, but it is a little slow to start up initially- overclocking helps but not much. I have overclocked to 260 for PocketSNES and on other occasions but find it normally fast enough to be comfortable - quite a feat with a meer 200mhz!
I'd say go for it, I'm posting this message from Mine now! got 3 tabs open text-mode in NetFront- browsing perfection!
I have had the following:
XDA II
XDA IIs
XDA IIi
XDA Exec
And recently upgraded to the Orbit. I must say that it is the closest I have come to being 100% happy with an XDA.
Had no idea how compact this device is. No more holding a brick to your ear, this is an aesthetically pleasing device - even for non PDA'ers.
I haven't found anything that doesn't work yet. I thought the GPS would be just another gimick and there was no way it was going to work properly without an external antenna - WRONG! Stick TomTom 6.02 on it and away you go. Managed nearly seven hours of GPS directed driving before the battery got too low (have now got a car charger).
I have been waiting for a device that combined all the functionality of a good PDA and phone in a phone size package and here it is.............and they throw in a GPS and FM Radio to boot.
and one more thing if you get a decent set of headphones (either buy an adapter or do a bit of DIY soldering) it's a pretty decent MP3 player too. 2GB micro SD from Moby Memory for about £40 and painless synching with Media Player 11 and your away.
The main reason I have a PDA phone is for Terminal Server. I provide software support and it gives me the freedom to get out of the House/Office and still be able to support my Clients. I was always able to justify carrying around a house brick (EXEC) because of this. Now I don't have to this phone is great and I have to say it ..... Gorgeous.
OK now it's out - I love my Orbit!!!
Go get one - I'm pretty sure you'll be happy!
Hope this helped!
Since a couple of weeks ago, I'm also the proud owner of a HTC P3300, after owning a Qtek S100 for a year and a half.
I'm truly very happy with my new P3300.
Almost all of the features have been mentioned in other replies to your post (and I agree with them), so, I want to add that, despite having the same 64Mb of RAM as the S100, it seems to me (I'm no expert) that memory management works better (probably WM5 instead of WM2003 has something to to with it) than it did on the S100.
Also the new 2Mpixel camera works very well, the picture quality is very good. It doesn't have flash or 'macro mode' selector, but I can live without it.
The phone capabilities are good (I had a lot of problems with the S100 not relating phone numbers to names or contact photos).
Apart from a little problem I had with activesync (mentioned in another thread and already solved) it's been working perfectly.
As for the GPS softwares, I use Destinator 6 (instead of TomTom) and Navitel (with custom Madeira map) for navigation and both of them work perfectly.
Bottom line, and yes, I'll be repating myself, I'm very very happy with my P3300.
regards,
thanks for the advice guys! looks like im off to get myself one then!
How about InfraRed capability?
I currently own a Mini S and I'm really keen to upgrade to the Orbit. I've however found that Orbit seems not to have an InfraRed port. So I wouldn't be able to use it as a TV remote control. Can anyone please confirm? Thanks.
PPB
How about InfraRed capability?
I currently own a Mini S and I'm really keen to upgrade to the Orbit. I've however found that Orbit seems not to have an InfraRed port. So I wouldn't be able to use it as a TV remote control. Can anyone please confirm? Thanks.
PPB
as far as i could see and i've read no it doesnt have an IR port, but surely using your phone as a tv remote isn't the be all and end all is it?
BUSPBP said:
I currently own a Mini S and I'm really keen to upgrade to the Orbit. I've however found that Orbit seems not to have an InfraRed port. So I wouldn't be able to use it as a TV remote control. Can anyone please confirm? Thanks.
PPB
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Hi
It doesn't have infrared, but if I where you I would treat myself to one of these
Link
I have one and along with the Orbit this remote is superb.
Rich
today i upgrade
T-Mobile mda compact 3 with HTC software and it is better then t-mobile software it is quickly
BUSPBP said:
I currently own a Mini S and I'm really keen to upgrade to the Orbit. I've however found that Orbit seems not to have an InfraRed port. So I wouldn't be able to use it as a TV remote control. Can anyone please confirm? Thanks.
PPB
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I asked HTC about making this device with consumer grade IR and 3G to make this a complete device. This is the response i got from HTC.
"Thank you for getting in contact with HTC regarding your recommendations and support. its more than likely a phone will come out with the functions you have asked. Its a case that at the moment a trade of as to be implemented due to technology reasons due to the GPS functions incorporated in to the phone, which requires other hardware to be dropped from the phone. The GPS being implemented is still fairly new concept and even through I don't have details of future phones its only a matter of time before it happens. Personally i'm waiting for a phone/GPS with slide out keyboard, which again can only be a matter of time.
Thank You for your comments"
All in all adding IR and 3G would make this one compact complete device. Use it to control your gadgets, navigate you around when driving, using it for phone and all manner of PPC functionality with virtually every connection option. One day it will be reality.
Just a snippet from HTC
Hope that helps.
Absolutely YES
Look at my signature, I've worked with nearly all HTCs from an early stage. If you can live without a keyboard, this is THE device to have at the moment.
HTC are nearing perfection!
Best device ever released (excluding the Universal for business use, still unbeatable).
I just got one - having been through the magician (which the wife now loves and uses) and the exec (which I still use as an excellent business tool) I have got to say that I am bowled over by the Orbit/3300 - WM5.0 AKU3, GPS, great screen, brilliant battery life (I get 3 days moderate usage out of mine between charges - 10 calls per day, push email on 18 hours per day, occasional GPS use!
GET ONE - U WILL NOT REGRET IT - and per other posts, if you don't like it I am sure it will get snapped up on EBAY
fox 2 said:
o2 have offered me an upgrade from my IIi to the orbit. As some of you have been using the orbit for a little while is it all it's cracked up to be?
and does tomtom work ok with the orbit and the built in gps reciever?
cheers guys
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Hi,
You might like to check out the thread on the General Forum :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=291461
also
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=289166 (TomTom 6 instead of copilot)
and http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=289243
Ann

Tomtom 6....

Hello,
I am just wondering, does TomTom Nav. 6 work on Blue Angel?
Currently running Windows Mobile 2003 SE.
I really hope so, I just bought a bluetooth GPS reciever from Ebay...
Best regards,
J.
I have downloaded a version of TomTom to try it on my BlueAngel. It work beautifully. I cannot remember if it was TomTom 5 or 6, but I was totally impressed with the ease of use. I knew without a doubt that I could use it in my car using my Belkin PDA holder and my fingers (iPhone style), no stylus needed.
Unfortunately, it only had European maps, haha. So needless to say I couldn't really enjoy it and I uninstalled it.
Just curious, what bluetooth GPS make and model did you get?
cheers for the prompt response!
I was just wondering because according to TomTom website, apparently Blue Angel is compatible with TomTom 5, but not TomTom6.
I purchased a model called "Qstarz Q818"... I dunno if its any good but according to some reviews on the net, it seemed quite OK. Plus the price wasnt that bad.. =)
Best regards,
J,
U.K.
It could've been TomTom 5... Sorry for the lack of details.
I love my Mobile Crossing BT GPS receiver. $160 at a local store (which doesn't sell them anymore). I just got a $16 external antenna on eBay which works excellently.
I tether it to my BlueAngel and use either Pocket Streets and Trips (which sucks) or MSN Live Mobile Search (which sucks too), or I tether it to my Dell Latitude D820 (worth its weight in gold) and use Streets and Trips, or Google Earth.
I am sure you can get hold of (from torrents) US maps (if thats where you live) for TomTom.
I've just downloaded TomTom6 and it seems to work.. I'll keep you posted on how it works after I install some maps and GPS device.
xcellent said:
Hello,
I am just wondering, does TomTom Nav. 6 work on Blue Angel?
Currently running Windows Mobile 2003 SE.
I really hope so, I just bought a bluetooth GPS reciever from Ebay...
Best regards,
J.
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On Blueangel
Tomtom 6 works fine, have been running it with Australia maps & holux bluetooth gps for a few weeks without drama.
Ok, I recieved the GPS reciever today, installed new maps on TomTom 6.
It WORKS!
Hi
I am running TomTom version 6.00 it runs real good with a bt 77 G.P.S.
how do you install the download TomTom 6
xcellent said:
I am sure you can get hold of (from torrents) US maps (if thats where you live) for TomTom.
I've just downloaded TomTom6 and it seems to work.. I'll keep you posted on how it works after I install some maps and GPS device.
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I have bought TomTom5 and installed the software from CD, it works, but the map is kind of old. I downloaded TomTom6 w/ new map. I need help to install the software. Thanks

How to unlock Samsung i780 GPS

Hi guys..., I have Samsung i780 GPS Phone and I've found some problem..GPS Unlocked..Does anyone know how to unlock GPS of this stuff...Now I've used Bt GPS with Garmin software...and it works well..Thxs.,
Whered you get the i780 if you dont mind me asking?...Ive been waiting on this phone for ages.
Thats not good news though...So the GPS is locked meaning i cant use additional software with the internal GPS?
Thanks
I am in Thailand and I bought this phone from Mabunkrong center, Bangkok ..and i've heard that this device'll be launched in Thailand thru official Samsung Thailand around March, 08...
Overall performance..excellent..but some programs didnt work well with VGA 320x320 screen as you've known. Otherwise..again..excellent!!!
Ahhh ok thanks.....Im just waiting on uk release now.
So you say the internal GPS is locked?
Is yours direct from samsung sim free or is it from a carrier?
Also do you have any pics of the handset?
Thanks
Not sure if this is anygood or not...Its for the blackjack 2 so may work on the i780
http://www.modaco.com/content/Smartphone-Standard-News/262074/Samsung-Blackjack-II-GPS-ACTIVATED/
How to unlock SS i780 gps
I found this message from internet...
"...Despite reports to the contrary the Samsung I780 that we have recently seen sporting a touch screen, wifi, 320 x 320 resolution and QWERTY keyboard, will not be the soon to be released Blackjack II. the Blackjack II will be the Samsung I617..."
and from article in the link..the devices are all Smartphone ...So i'm not sure whether it'll work or not....Let try it anyway tonite and will report you response...
Thanks for your help..
So what app does the GPS in the phone work with?
Is it just google maps?
Because in the UK ive heard that it comes with its own navigation app called webraska....Not sure if thats 100% true or not though.
Thanks
How to unlock SS i780
After i tried "GPS Patch" as suggested from Modaco, i got Com port 4 on the device and tried many times to connect gps ( build-in )..the result is " cant find gps in my device"..so finally decide going back to BT-gps and work well as usual. I've heard that Bulid-in GPS only works with the Navigon application. I think what i hv to do is "wait and see" till the official launch of this device.. By the way, my map app is MobileXT, Garmin...and hvnt tried Google map yet..
Hope no problem with your future samsung [email protected]
how to unlock ss i780
ohhh...forgot to say very appreciate for your kindly help...Thank you very much my friend
No problem
Sorry it didn't work.
Not sure if this is any help to you or not
http://www.modaco.com/index.php?s=&showtopic=263848&view=findpost&p=874331
Check out post 54.
I know this is for the blackjack 2 but ive heard there pretty much identical internally..even though the BJ2 runs smartphone OS
Maybe worth a try.
sorry me again
Have u managed to get the internal gps working with the bundled samsung navigon app?
If so whats its perfprmance like at achieving lock and maintaing lock?
As ive heard it uses the qualcomm 6260 chip which is not meant to be very good.
Thanks
Hi all.
I have a I780 from Orange and can say the GPS is not locked.
It seems that the OS is the problem with GPA apps not working.
I have install an app called GPSGate.
Tested with Tomtom worked fine.
The i780 GPS is NOT locked, it works fine. Out of the box, it works with Google Maps and with the new Garmin XT software. If you need something like Tom Tom 6 to work with the i780, you need to use GpsGate for creating a virtual COM port.
The i780 GPS reception is actually pretty impressive considering the size of this little jewel.
Unfortunately Samsung messed up a couple of things, they delivered the first batch of units over here in Germany without any manual(physical or online) and without GPS software. According to some dealers and a source at Samsung, the GPS software(Garmin XT?) will be available free of cost for customers and it will be delivered on a microSD card. The bad news is: after a certain trial period(15 days?), the Garmin software costs 99 EUR or so to unlock. Crap...
I like my i780, build quality, size and weight are impressive.
It is however slightly bigger than the Blackjack I AND II and it definetely uses a completely different hardware, so DO NOT use Blackjack II solutions for your i780, they won't work and they're going to mess up your i780.
Again: the Blackjack II and the i780 have NOTHING in common, they look alike but the i780 is slightly bigger and has a completely different hardware, not to mention that the i780 runs on Windows Mobile 6 Professional and has a touchscreen.
Btw: the display quality of the i780 isn't as great as the review of a pre-production unit mentioned on www.mobile-review.com. Apparently Samsung had to cut on cost somewhere. The GPS works great though, I always get a satellite fix within a couple of seconds(first fix may take a couple of minutes) and usually, I receive a usable signal of 6-9 satellites, sometimes even more.
So do you need GPSgate running in the background aswell as TOMTOM?
Thanks
Hi Ya
Yes you do.
GPSgate acts as a virtual COM port.
It works a treat. I have had tomtom running all day without a problem.
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The i780 GPS is NOT locked, it works fine. Out of the box, it works with Google Maps and with the new Garmin XT software. If you need something like Tom Tom 6 to work with the i780, you need to use GpsGate for creating a virtual COM port.
The i780 GPS reception is actually pretty impressive considering the size of this little jewel.
Unfortunately Samsung messed up a couple of things, they delivered the first batch of units over here in Germany without any manual(physical or online) and without GPS software. According to some dealers and a source at Samsung, the GPS software(Garmin XT?) will be available free of cost for customers and it will be delivered on a microSD card. The bad news is: after a certain trial period(15 days?), the Garmin software costs 99 EUR or so to unlock. Crap...
I like my i780, build quality, size and weight are impressive.
It is however slightly bigger than the Blackjack I AND II and it definetely uses a completely different hardware, so DO NOT use Blackjack II solutions for your i780, they won't work and they're going to mess up your i780.
Again: the Blackjack II and the i780 have NOTHING in common, they look alike but the i780 is slightly bigger and has a completely different hardware, not to mention that the i780 runs on Windows Mobile 6 Professional and has a touchscreen.
Btw: the display quality of the i780 isn't as great as the review of a pre-production unit mentioned on www.mobile-review.com. Apparently Samsung had to cut on cost somewhere. The GPS works great though, I always get a satellite fix within a couple of seconds(first fix may take a couple of minutes) and usually, I receive a usable signal of 6-9 satellites, sometimes even more.
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Thanks vor the very good news about GPS!!
Can you give to me a general idea of this wonderful device? A part from the display (does it have less luminosity than expected) how do you judge the performance, build quality..... Do you confirm the very good impression made by Mobile-Review?
What about sw? Does it come like the one tested Mobile-Review? Today plugin, task manager, rss, podcast, Opera........?
Thanks.
Vittore
tanthong said:
I am in Thailand and I bought this phone from Mabunkrong center, Bangkok ..and i've heard that this device'll be launched in Thailand thru official Samsung Thailand around March, 08...
Overall performance..excellent..but some programs didnt work well with VGA 320x320 screen as you've known. Otherwise..again..excellent!!!
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hi, are there a lot of i780s available at the Mabunkrong center, Bangkok? which floor? where else to buy them in Bangkok or Singapore?
I have an Italian build QWERTY layout but I need UK ROM anyone?
gpsgate setup for tomtom?
Hi, does anyone know what the settings are used on gpsgate to get tomtom working on i780?....also does anyone have any images of how tomtom looks like on the i780 screen (320x320)?....thanks in advance.

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