I have updated my PDA2K with the latest 3900 BT software but caller ID 'NAMES' are not displayed on my Sony Ericcson Akono 660 Blue Tooth Headset, only numbers.
I know that names are displayed when it is linked with a Sony Ericcson phone.
Does anybody have any ideas.
I have the Jabra BT800, which has exactly the same problem. When I bought it the chap told me the reason it only shows Numbers instead of names is something to do with the fact that mt QTEK 9090 reports itseld as a PDA instead of a phone. Not quite sure if this makes sense, but it displays names on almost every phone I have tried but not on any PDA phones. I tried it with my friends HP 6315 PDA phone and got exactly the same problem. Hope this helps.
Bluetooth Profiles
I have the Jabra BT800 and the Sony Ericson HBH-200
Both are designed to show the FULL name from the phone. The HBH-200 is even designed to make phone calls by synching up with the phones list of numbers/names. The BT800 can make phone calls (EVEN WITH THE XDAIII), but only from its own internal list of numbers that it catches from the PDA during operation.
The XDAIII is not able to do this since it only supports the headset part of the profile, and not very at that.
The bottom line is that M$ and PDA Phone makers have an awfull lot of catch up work to do before we ever get a system that actually works as well as regular cell phones paired with headsets.
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ed207_us said:
I have the Jabra BT800 and the Sony Ericson HBH-200
Both are designed to show the FULL name from the phone. The HBH-200 is even designed to make phone calls by synching up with the phones list of numbers/names. The BT800 can make phone calls (EVEN WITH THE XDAIII), but only from its own internal list of numbers that it catches from the PDA during operation.
The XDAIII is not able to do this since it only supports the headset part of the profile, and not very at that.
The bottom line is that M$ and PDA Phone makers have an awfull lot of catch up work to do before we ever get a system that actually works as well as regular cell phones paired with headsets.
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Which of those two headsets would you recommend with the Blue Angel?? I'm looking at the moment and the Caller-Id and select new call from the headset functions look pretty useful.
The Jabra BT800 is not very reliable at all when it comes to the Caller ID. It only sometimes comes up and that is around the 3rd ring anyways.
The HBH-200 is a LOT more reliable at showing the phone number.
As for making calls, only the BT800 has ever made a call. However, it relies on the Caller ID that shows up in its lists. Since that is not very reliable, and does not show the name, I would not classify it as a usefull feature.
All things considered, I would take the BT800. It has much higher sound/mic quality and much longer talk time.
Related
I am getting a little worried here.
It is advertised everywhere that the xda IIs has voice dial, which to me reffers to me talking into a bt headset and it calls that contact.
If this is not possible, can fonix ispeak sort it?
The device comes with fonix voicedial software, but it does not work through the headset. I have my MDAIII mounted on the windscreen in the car and manage to use voicedial to make calls with over 90% accuracy and then talk through my jabra bt headset.
Which unit do you have PDA2K or IIs? I haven't seen any postings yet comparing the two devices, O2 may have addressed some BT issues before launching the IIs.
I won't have one (IIs, already have PDA2K) till next week.
getting the 2's next week. new officail date is the 15th nov. so should recieve it on the 16th
So what does it take to make this work? is it impossible. Can we not do something?
it take it that this product is using the mic hardware and not bluetooth mic?
http://shop.store.yahoo.com/cellpoint/padrblvoreha.html
Anyone come acrross this before: (scroll down to Kai’s Bluetooth Headset Patch 2004 )
http://www.pocketpcmag.com/_archives/sep04/bluetooth.asp
could something simular be done on the xda's
Or is this something where only ever going to get to use with bluetooth v2?
read this an help me please
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=12824&highlight=
Its good to see progress being made but the main problem still is a hard ware based. The mic and speaker in phone hardware need to be bridged with the ppc... which gets me thinking.....as we can speak into ppc and listen to the caller then once we BT the call it was bridge/switch it.... dont understand why something so simple and a much required feature is missing :?
Hi,
I have installed the trial version of MS command and it seems to be doing the trick... I have a qtek 9090 and I did not see any installed software for voice dialing... Is it only on PDA2K?
Thanks.
Anonymous said:
Hi,
I have installed the trial version of MS command and it seems to be doing the trick... I have a qtek 9090 and I did not see any installed software for voice dialing... Is it only on PDA2K?
Thanks.
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MS Command doesn't support bluetooth headsets either.
From the MS blurb: "Bluetooth Headset Support - Voice Command does not support using a Bluetooth headset to initiate a voice command but you can use a Bluetooth headset during the phone conversation."
So its the same as fonix. You have to speak the dialling command into the device, and it only transfers to the bluetooth headset when the device starts dialling out. If you can put up with that, fonix works pretty well.
JD
Well as much as I was looking forward to getting a PDA2K or SX-66, I feel that this is a MAJOR drawback that has me thinking twice. I read that your cannot initiate VOICE calls using a BlueTooth headset no matter what software you are running. Is this accurate?
If so, then why can the Audiovox SMT5600 do it by the way of voice tags?
Thanks,
Frank
Previous ms smartphones and pocket pc phones have not supported the bluetooth handsfree profile which would allow voice dialling. Since the new devices now support it its up to the software developers to implement it in their software. For example, using my SE HBH-200 on my imate PDA2K i can initiate voice dialling on the headset but on the imate there is nothing to interface with. If the Audiovox can do it there is no reason why a more powerful pocket pc cant do it as well
Hi,
Newbie, just purchased an XDA2i with an O2 'blue' headset and I need some help in the voice dial area.
Turns out they are not compatible for one click voice dialing. Installed fonix VoiceDial 2.0 off the O2 installation CD but it will not activate from the Blue Headset Call button. In the XDA settings you can assign hardware buttons from the XDAii to start the voice dial feature but not from the headset pickup / make call button.
Any ideas if this can be resolved or if there is another voice dial software that can be activated to make a call by clicking the O2 blue headset? And/or another headset that works so I don't have to keep getting this thing out of my bag to make a call? - Would have thought this would have been a basic requirment of a phone/pda this size?
Cheers,
R
Same problem with Jabra BT250v
I have the same problem with my XDA IIi and Jabra BT250v headset. O2 Customer services are absolutely no help, they say "there is no headset available at the moment that will function properly with xda IIi". O2 Shops say all headsets will work but you need to buy one and then try", what does one believe and go to get help...........?
Fisely
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fisely said:
I have the same problem with my XDA IIi and Jabra BT250v headset. O2 Customer services are absolutely no help, they say "there is no headset available at the moment that will function properly with xda IIi". O2 Shops say all headsets will work but you need to buy one and then try", what does one believe and go to get help...........?
Fisely
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These PDA's dont support this functions, irrespective of where you buy it from. orange, voda, o2, t-mobile - they just can't do bluetooth voicedial. Naff but true.
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Yes, strange but true, it seems the reason is that the xda series are pda's with phone capability, not phone with pda capability so they thought they would leave out that particular feature. Probably something to do with marketing but I cant see the logic of it for the life of me.
BT headset auto-answer
cruisin-thru said:
Yes, strange but true, it seems the reason is that the xda series are pda's with phone capability, not phone with pda capability so they thought they would leave out that particular feature. Probably something to do with marketing but I cant see the logic of it for the life of me.
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I have a O2 mini, and Sony BT Headset. I also have a disability and this 'non-feature' is more than just an 'annoyance' for me.
Calling out I can manage on the pda and the headset turns on automatically - though voice dial would be handy, it's the answering that I have trouble with.
Can you tell me, is the 'bit' that switches a incoming call to a BT headset part of the BT in MSWindows 2003se PPC software or part of the O2 firmware or part of hardware?
What does the answering? Could a utility be written that detects an incoming call and switch answer to a BT headset?
David
There are two known pocket pc phones that have bluetooth voice dialling; the Motorola MPX and the Eten M500. So its not a limitation of the OS, just short-sightedness of some app developers
Has anyone tried a bluetooth headset with caller id which works with the jasjar/mda pro?
I have Sony Ericsson HBH-662, it works fine on XDA IIi, so it should work on jabra.
There is a discussion for this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=28320
The current conclusion is still, either go with SonyEricsson HBH-662 BT or the Jabra BT-800. But both still have problem displaying the caller ID, both will display the number instead of the contact name.
There is another review about the BT headset topic (very detail):
http://pocketpcdubai.com/i-mate_PPC/jasjar/reviewp4.html
I'm personally waiting until something better comes out unless you can live today with 'number only' caller ID.
Fredy
Unfortunately it's not the fault of the headsets that they only display the number. Both my HBH-660 and BT800 display the caller name with my se P910i.
HTC do not pass the caller name to the headset. None of their phones do. It's a crying shame.
I use HBH-200 that shows incoming callers number - but no nae im afraid tested it a mates xda-exec and it did display caller number-will give it a more intense workout onc iget my exec
it is a shame id love to get a bluetooth device like the HBH-200 that shows the callers name!!!! the 200 only does that with my v800
neva mind
Here is the bluetooth headset i'm waiting for.
Attached the manual and photos. Only if MS will get the profiles into the new ROM.
FCC link
The specs from
Stereo music streams wirelessly from your compatible phone via Bluetooth
technology
Built-in stereo FM RDS radio with automatic channel search
Switch easily between music and phone calls with compatible phones
Informative display shows the name or the number of the person who's calling,
SMS/MMS and missed calls notification, plus MP3 tracks or radio channels
Control buttons for music and FM radio
Talk-time up to 8h, standby time up to 200h
Stainless steel front cover
Available:
Planned availability in the 3rd quarter of 2005
https://gullfoss2.fcc.gov/prod/oet/...e=N&application_id=268706&fcc_id='PYAHS-12W'
does the Universal do all this??
http://www.nokia.co.uk/nokia/0,,73505,00.html
The Nokia Wireless Stereo Headset HS-12W supports the Bluetooth 1.2 specification with Handsfree 1.0 (HFP) and Headset 1.1 (HSP) profiles for phone calls, A2DP 1.0, AVRCP 1.0, GAVDP 1.0 for stereo audio and music features. Check your phone's compatibility with these specifications and profiles with your phone manufacturer. Nokia specific features will work only with specific Nokia phones.
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If it does these are on my christmas list!!!!!!!, exactlly what i want, and if caller id gets sorted, even sweeter.
i do hope. some information points that we will have ad2p in MS bluetooth stack. if not maybe we will get it from dell, toshiba or others with widcomm on wm5.
I have the HS-13W and doesn t work :evil: I hope with the new ROM...
ciao, Danilo
I've been keeping an eye on this one too but I can't find any mention of a date or price anywhere.
Does anyone have any news on this?
also waiting ...
Hi,
I am also watching for this headset. Not present yet at major shops. Was reportedly available at www.comptel.at, but now I see they have withdrawn the product from their list ... I am wondering what is this delay, afterall Nokia initially announced it for 3rd quarter 2005??
Br,
Deyan
danilos2k said:
I have the HS-13W and doesn t work :evil: I hope with the new ROM...
ciao, Danilo
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This one will make sense for universal , as taking a call after seeing who is calling takes ages & FM with stereo will be a great value add.
Cheers Taurus.
i have a hs-13w and it dose not work with unversal i'm thinking the 13w is a very bad product from nokia and it keeps crashing what a wast of £100
could anybod use this device with th PC to listen to music? I've the newest widcomm stack (5.0.1.1400) but IT's not working
kchris said:
could anybod use this device with th PC to listen to music? I've the newest widcomm stack (5.0.1.1400) but IT's not working
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Did you try it with Jetware bluetooth extensions?
tailazoom said:
kchris said:
could anybod use this device with th PC to listen to music? I've the newest widcomm stack (5.0.1.1400) but IT's not working
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Did you try it with Jetware bluetooth extensions?
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nope! what is it? I'll do a google search...
Read contacts from the Outlook phonebook (“ME” phonebook)
Read contacts from the SIM (“SM” phonebook)
Read the list of dialed calls from the call history (“DC” phonebook)
Read the list of received calls from the call history (“RC” phonebook)
Read the list of missed calls from the call history (“MC” phonebook)
Filter contacts from Outlook phonebook based on Outlook contact categories
Limit number of contacts returned from any phonebook
New! Activate Microsoft Voice Command voice dialing over Bluetooth
New! Use custom ringtones through your Bluetooth device
Show battery charge level
JETware Hands-free Extension for Windows Mobile phones
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Show signal strength
Show roaming status
Display carrier name
Read message headings from ActiveSync, SMS, or other mail provider
New message notification
Delete messages
Read SIM serial number (used to automatically select display language)
Read GSM phone IMEI number
Read phone default phone number
Read current time from phone
New! Improved Caller ID
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Version 1.11 free for 30 days
http://www.jetwaremobile.com/bthfx/JetBTHFExt-PPC-1.11.cab
I use it with sony hbh660 for caller name display
tailazoom said:
I use it with sony hbh660 for caller name display
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how did you config it to display caller name? I left everything as it is - and played with the callerID checkbox. nothing changed it displays only the number.
But my original question was that I cannot use this headset with my notebook (WinXP), is it possible? I've tried widcomm 5.x, 4.x drivers so far. my bluetooh hardware is CSR chip.
So does HS-12W work with JasJar?
I was wondering if Desire works OK with bluetooth hand-free devices. Someone who can tell us about it? I use it a lot on my car and it's a basic point for a mobile phone. I would really appreciate any feedback about this.
Thanks.
xmfreak said:
I was wondering if Desire works OK with bluetooth hand-free devices. Someone who can tell us about it? I use it a lot on my car and it's a basic point for a mobile phone. I would really appreciate any feedback about this.
Thanks.
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It has full A2DP which means you can control the device using the stereo itself, something the iphone cannot do
Audio/Video Remote Control Profile (AVRCP) is what works properly on the Desire, the iphone does not have this support
The Desire supports the following Bluetooth Profiles
A2DP,AVRCP, GAP, GOEP, HFP, HSP, PBAP, SPP, Service Discovery Application Profile
This is a full list of all the bluetooth layers
Advanced Audio Distribution Profile (A2DP)
Audio/Video Remote Control Profile (AVRCP)
Basic Imaging Profile (BIP)
Basic Printing Profile (BPP)
Cordless Telephony Profile (CTP)
Device ID Profile (DID)
Dial-up Networking Profile (DUN)
Fax Profile (FAX)
File Transfer Profile (FTP)
General Audio/Video Distribution Profile (GAVDP)
Generic Access Profile (GAP)
Generic Object Exchange Profile (GOEP)
Human Interface Device Profile (HID)
Intercom Profile (ICP)
Object Push Profile (OPP)
Personal Area Networking Profile (PAN)
Phone Book Access Profile (PBAP)
Serial Port Profile (SPP)
Service Discovery Application Profile (SDAP)
SIM Access Profile (SAP,SIM)
Synchronisation Profile (synch)
Video Distribution Profile (vdp)
Wireless Application Protocol Bearer (WAPB)
Works well with my BT Parrot CK3300 kit.
Ive got a Pioneer 7100BT winging its way to me, that has A2DP, im hoping it will work well with my Desire. Will post results when i get it and install it tomorrow.
Seems to work ok with my Standard Motorola headset.
Hoping to be able to est it with a bluetooth stereo soon.
ronnyuk said:
It has full A2DP which means you can control the device using the stereo itself, something the iphone cannot do
Audio/Video Remote Control Profile (AVRCP) is what works properly on the Desire, the iphone does not have this support
The Desire supports the following Bluetooth Profiles
A2DP,AVRCP, GAP, GOEP, HFP, HSP, PBAP, SPP, Service Discovery Application Profile
This is a full list of all the bluetooth layers
Advanced Audio Distribution Profile (A2DP)
Audio/Video Remote Control Profile (AVRCP)
Basic Imaging Profile (BIP)
Basic Printing Profile (BPP)
Cordless Telephony Profile (CTP)
Device ID Profile (DID)
Dial-up Networking Profile (DUN)
Fax Profile (FAX)
File Transfer Profile (FTP)
General Audio/Video Distribution Profile (GAVDP)
Generic Access Profile (GAP)
Generic Object Exchange Profile (GOEP)
Human Interface Device Profile (HID)
Intercom Profile (ICP)
Object Push Profile (OPP)
Personal Area Networking Profile (PAN)
Phone Book Access Profile (PBAP)
Serial Port Profile (SPP)
Service Discovery Application Profile (SDAP)
SIM Access Profile (SAP,SIM)
Synchronisation Profile (synch)
Video Distribution Profile (vdp)
Wireless Application Protocol Bearer (WAPB)
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Hope someone can figure this out:
I've had experience with 3 mobiles connecting to the built-in bluetooth in my car (HTC Tytn II, HTC Hero and Nokia e71) my concern is the following:
With the Nokia, when I get a call, I hear the phone ringtone through the car speakers. But with both HTCs I couldn't, I hear the default car ringtone, which is REALLY annoying.
The nokia e71 has the following bluetooth specs:
Bluetooth version 2.0 with Enhanced Data Rate
- Bluetooth profiles: DUN, OPP, FTP, HFP, GOEP, HSP, BIP, RSAP, GAVDP, AVRCP, A2DP
does anyone know if one of the these profiles is responsible for this? which one? I hope it would work with the Desire.
by the way, does making the phone visible before connecting make any difference? (just wondering)
Yet another HTC handset I can't get to work with my factory fit blue-tooth in my Skoda Superb (delete / install any VW Audi group car)
sh500 said:
Works well with my BT Parrot CK3300 kit.
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Hi, I have the CK3200 LS-COLOR and I can't get the contacts to load on the parrot, did you have any teething troubles?
Pumpkin Lantern said:
Hi, I have the CK3200 LS-COLOR and I can't get the contacts to load on the parrot, did you have any teething troubles?
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No problems at all. Just a standard pairing; it took less than a minute to auto sync the address book and I was ready to go.
I've never had problems with this kit; have sync'd numerous WinMo devices, Blackberrys (is that the plural?!) (still active for work) and now the Android device.
beaker656 said:
Yet another HTC handset I can't get to work with my factory fit blue-tooth in my Skoda Superb (delete / install any VW Audi group car)
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VAG cars need phones that use the RSAP Bluetooth profile, it's a bit of a wierd profile and stands for Remote Sim Access Profile, now looking this up for you I can only see some blackberry and Nokia phones that have this profile.
Bluetooth phone prep is a bit of a waste of time at the moment as the company who writes the software are not fully integrating there systems with everyone else, they are also not following standard A2DP procedures, I would imagine this is due to a partnership thing with people like Nokia and company cars etc.
Next time save the 600 quid or so you pay to have bluetooth prep and get a decent stereo like I have in my Audi, unless you got satnav too then you are stuffed
I have enclosed a link on VAG group phone prep and HTC phones, make sure your SIM card is of the new Variety
http://audiforum.us/multimedia/11189-audi-bluetooth-rsap-adapter-htc-touch-pro.html
I've had mixed results.
In my car the Desire works perfectly with the Parrot CK3300. I get full bluetooth contact sync, voice dialling works fine (the CK3300 does the voice recognition as the Desire doesn't do it over bluetooth) and calls come through loud and clear.
The wife has the lower CK3000 Evo. This doesn't have a display, so you send contacts to the kit over bluetooth and then record voice tags against them so that the kit can do voice dialling. Unfortunately the Desire refuses to send contacts to it and claims that the kit doesn't support sending contacts over bluetooth. This unfortunately means the wife can use the kit for incoming calls, but has no voice dialling for outgoing calls when she also upgrades to the Desire on Saturday when her contract's up.
Dae.
But what about voice dialling over Bluetooth with any of those?
The Android OS doesn't support voice dialling over bluetooth yet.
That's why I use the Parrot CK3300 - it does it on behalf of the phone. It basically syncs the phonebook to the kit. You then record the voice tags into the kit and associate them with a contact. You can then voice dial, which the kit will match up to the contact and dial using the phone.
Even when I've had phones that do support voice dialling I've always found the Parrot more effective.
Dae
ronnyuk said:
VAG cars need phones that use the RSAP Bluetooth profile, it's a bit of a wierd profile and stands for Remote Sim Access Profile, now looking this up for you I can only see some blackberry and Nokia phones that have this profile.
Bluetooth phone prep is a bit of a waste of time at the moment as the company who writes the software are not fully integrating there systems with everyone else, they are also not following standard A2DP procedures, I would imagine this is due to a partnership thing with people like Nokia and company cars etc.
Next time save the 600 quid or so you pay to have bluetooth prep and get a decent stereo like I have in my Audi, unless you got satnav too then you are stuffed
I have enclosed a link on VAG group phone prep and HTC phones, make sure your SIM card is of the new Variety
http://audiforum.us/multimedia/11189-audi-bluetooth-rsap-adapter-htc-touch-pro.html
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Thanks for the explanation. I happen to own a VAG car, A4 B8 with concert radio.
So SAP profile is different than RSAP profile? Could this be responsible for the phone ringtone not going through the car speakers? Because everything else works perfectly, it pairs and connects automatically, syncs contacts and make/receive calls, except for the ringtone issue! Which sounds like an ambulance siren.
What stereo system did you install?
daesimps said:
I've had mixed results.
In my car the Desire works perfectly with the Parrot CK3300. I get full bluetooth contact sync, voice dialling works fine (the CK3300 does the voice recognition as the Desire doesn't do it over bluetooth) and calls come through loud and clear.
The wife has the lower CK3000 Evo. This doesn't have a display, so you send contacts to the kit over bluetooth and then record voice tags against them so that the kit can do voice dialling. Unfortunately the Desire refuses to send contacts to it and claims that the kit doesn't support sending contacts over bluetooth. This unfortunately means the wife can use the kit for incoming calls, but has no voice dialling for outgoing calls when she also upgrades to the Desire on Saturday when her contract's up.
Dae.
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That's not good to read at all if I remember correctly I think I have on my car the same parrot model as your wife. My parrot is working perfect with Omnia and Xperia but I was afraid it wouldn't work with Desire and it seems I was right to be afraid. That's a huge problem for me.
Works perfectly with my Motorola H500 Bluetooth Headset.
xmfreak said:
That's not good to read at all if I remember correctly I think I have on my car the same parrot model as your wife. My parrot is working perfect with Omnia and Xperia but I was afraid it wouldn't work with Desire and it seems I was right to be afraid. That's a huge problem for me.
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It's a big deal for her too. I'm hoping that it'll be fixed in a future update. I'm glad we thought to check it before she upgraded to the Desire. She's going to hold off upgrading until this issue is resolved as she spends a lot of time in the car and it's not cheap to upgrade the handsfree kit. It's a deal breaker for her.
salahag said:
Thanks for the explanation. I happen to own a VAG car, A4 B8 with concert radio.
So SAP profile is different than RSAP profile? Could this be responsible for the phone ringtone not going through the car speakers? Because everything else works perfectly, it pairs and connects automatically, syncs contacts and make/receive calls, except for the ringtone issue! Which sounds like an ambulance siren.
What stereo system did you install?
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I installed a Blaupunkt MP68 but would not recommend it as it's pretty old now, the good thing was in the day it matched the Audi Red dials perfect and was German so I stuck with it.
All the Pioneer new series of BT headunits have Parrot BT built in so I would recommend one of those.
hmmm ... where does one go to get at slightly more advanced settings for BT? The Settings>Wireless & Networks options are very basic. I'm hoping to be able to tweak something to make it start working with my Audi A5. I suppose I'm asking is there anything like Sim Access Profile or Jetware out there?
Anyone any ideas? I searched Marketplace but nothing relevant came up.
I have found that my motorola headset keeps connecting and disconnecting like it is going out of range.
Thing is, it can be in my pocket about a foot from my headset and still disconnect and reconnect several times a minute.