Bluetooth manager doesn't start until I soft reset - MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 General

Hi all,
I have a strange problem: bluetooth manager works fine after a soft reset. I can my PPC the whole day and it will always start normally (read: the screen that shows BT shortcuts shows up). The problem occurs when I turn off the phone over night (flight mode). The next day I can't get the BT manager to show the shortcuts screen - BT can be switched on and off but neither the BT manager or the BT settings screen will show up (there is no error message!!!). After I do a soft reset everything starts working...
Has anyone come across this kind of a problem in the past? I couldn't find anything using search on this forum...
My device info is (DutchRetail ROM):
ROM: 1.40.00 WWE
Radio: 1.13.00
Ext ROM: 1.40.556 WWE
I have tried uninstalling almost all extra software that I have installed after a hard reset but the issue is still here.
Thanks for all suggestions on what else I can try.

Hi Poga,
Yep, I get exactly the same problem :-(
AndrewB
ROM (i-Mate) 1.40.00 WWE
Radio 1.12.00
ExtROM 1.40.176

Hi Poga,
Yep, I get exactly the same problem :-(
AndrewB
ROM (i-Mate) 1.40.00 WWE
Radio 1.12.00
ExtROM 1.40.176

Do either of you have Goodlink software on your device?

same problem no goodlink
Same problem but no goodlink software
I also get another funny problem where sometimes I go to connect to my bluetooth access point from my phone and it just has the little pie icon saying it's doing something, then it stops and it hasn't connected (the connection icon stays the same) and I can't make any sort of connection. It then does this everytime I try to connect.
I don't know how i fix it, but I combination of many soft resets various flight mode turn ons and fiddling it eventually works. It's very frustrating and it's happened on every software version. Right now i"m running 2.04.00. I have a CDMA from Telecom NZ running radio HA_01_151 right now (but I've tried other radios).
Somebody else had this problem I noticed but nobody replied to his posts.

I've got the same problem I hope someday that someone makes a fix for it. I run the XDA IIs BlueAngel 1.40.00 Asian O2 ROM WWE. =/.

Same problem here - only solution I had was to go into settings/memory and then stop all programs running - then the bluetooth manager appears without the need for a softboot..
Pain in the arse. :!:
poga said:
Hi all,
I have a strange problem: bluetooth manager works fine after a soft reset. I can my PPC the whole day and it will always start normally (read: the screen that shows BT shortcuts shows up). The problem occurs when I turn off the phone over night (flight mode). The next day I can't get the BT manager to show the shortcuts screen - BT can be switched on and off but neither the BT manager or the BT settings screen will show up (there is no error message!!!). After I do a soft reset everything starts working...
Has anyone come across this kind of a problem in the past? I couldn't find anything using search on this forum...
My device info is (DutchRetail ROM):
ROM: 1.40.00 WWE
Radio: 1.13.00
Ext ROM: 1.40.556 WWE
I have tried uninstalling almost all extra software that I have installed after a hard reset but the issue is still here.
Thanks for all suggestions on what else I can try.
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cw6447 said:
Do either of you have Goodlink software on your device?
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I do and I have the same problem. I've been suspecting that it may have something to do with that because when I reset and I can start the manager just fine before I start Goodlink, but after I start goodlink it's a pain. Once, I tried to start BT manager then it didnt... i forgot all about it then suddenly some 11 hours later it just popped up by itself. Goodlink had been running continuously.
Any ideas???

I sometimes have the same effect.
What I usually do to resolve it (without soft reset):
- I installed PocketNav (kills programs which run in the background)
- I select 'Close all but Ative' in PocketNav
Then the Bluetooth Manager works again.
Hope it helps.
A

This is due to memory limitation in WM2003SE. When it finds that the memory is not sufficient it wont run Bluetooth Manager or Wifi. I had this problem a lot until i have shifted to WM5 which has more than 100 mb when the device starts. I guess that is why M$ has built WM5 for that reason and also for persisten storage of course.

The "memory limitation" is indirectly the problem. The Goodlink, which is more than three times the memory hog as any other 3rd party app out there, is the direct problem. I could write a college discertation on the amount of bugs in this awful software. And yes, it is good for push email...but at the expense of everything else that is good about these multimedia devices we own. The typical "close-when-you-tap-the-X" software utilities don't shut down Goodlink on my device even though they successfully shut down every other software I own (over 40 titles). So I have to use MemMaid to kill its process. But Goodlink will restore itself in a matter of minutes as it ventures out to the server looking to synch mail, calendar, contacts. If there was ever a reason to bring back public hangings, it would be for the Goodlink windows OS development team.

I don't really see any issues with Goodlink eating my memory. Then again, I've converted from a strictly fun user to a strictly business user so the whole gaming and multimedia thing doesn't quite do it for me anymore.

Steiner,
I tried PocketNav to see if it would truly close GoodApp.exe. Although it does seem to shut the application down, the 6+MB exe still is open in memory. Using MemMaid it shows that it never really closes.

I also didn't have the Goodlink software installed . My solution to the problem was: I installed the Sprite Backup software and set it to automatically restart my PPC @ 6 am after creating a backup. So in a way, this problem was very benifical to me - I now have a fresh backup of all the software every morning and the device reboots every morning without my intervention (no BT errors, no WiFi errors, etc).

poga said:
I also didn't have the Goodlink software installed . My solution to the problem was: I installed the Sprite Backup software and set it to automatically restart my PPC @ 6 am after creating a backup. So in a way, this problem was very benifical to me - I now have a fresh backup of all the software every morning and the device reboots every morning without my intervention (no BT errors, no WiFi errors, etc).
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Good idea!!! :lol:

Related

BLUETOOTH

Hi Everybody,
I have an xda11 and have upgraded everything BUT i just cant get the bluetooth running properly all the time. could someone suggest something other than the obvious. I really screwed up my phone with bluetooth tools and their must still be something in the registry that is affecting my bluetooth. I have a hello2 headset which is fantastic. The problems really started with bluetooth tools. I have done several restores from my card but i think the problem is in the registry............anyways i love gadgets and you guys are the bomb.
ROM VERSION 2.06.00WWE
ROM DATE 06/14/04
Radio Version 1.18.00
protocol 1337.38
extrom version Sin.Merged v2.0
Hiya
Can you provide a few more details? Eg..
What OS?
Have you done a hard reset to refresh the device and still having BT issues?
What version of BT Tools did you install?
What exactly the issue with BT is: it stays on for a minute and then turns off / doesn't come on at all / any error messages?
Cheers
Ant
Thanks for responding
The operating system is
WM2003 second edition
version 4.21.1088 build 14132
Done a hard reset
The version of BT Tools was 1.1 (i think) but i did remove it.
and yes it stays on for a minute or it doesnt answer but it knows its on.
I just think ive screwed something up in the Reg. I have spb 2.5 , and a heap of programmes on it.
When doing a restore from my storage card - do i have to restore registry otherwise it would leave the "working" bluetooth after a hard reset.
I dont get any error messages-it just has a mind of its own. Also i cant answer another call while im on a call.
Sorry to be a pain..........if there is a BT stack i can download to overide this one-that wuld be cool or can someone tell me what dll's to delete so it fixes itself up????
Thanks again for your quick reply
Thanks for responding
The operating system is
WM2003 second edition
version 4.21.1088 build 14132
Done a hard reset
The version of BT Tools was 1.1 (i think) but i did remove it.
and yes it stays on for a minute or it doesnt answer but it knows its on.
I just think ive screwed something up in the Reg. I have spb 2.5 , and a heap of programmes on it.
When doing a restore from my storage card - do i have to restore registry otherwise it would leave the "working" bluetooth after a hard reset.
I dont get any error messages-it just has a mind of its own. Also i cant answer another call while im on a call.
Sorry to be a pain..........if there is a BT stack i can download to overide this one-that wuld be cool or can someone tell me what dll's to delete so it fixes itself up????
Thanks again for your quick reply

WM5 GPS application - iGuidance compatibility?

Hi
Does anyone know how to setup IGuidance to work with WM5? I dont know how to work the BT ports at all. In 2003se, i could use the "scan" for bt data and it'd find the itrek gps unit but now it results in "no gps found". alternatively, what other gps software will work other than tomtom? I dont have tomtom =(
I've got version 2.1 and it seems to work with WM5. I add the gps to the bluetooth and then I create an incoming and outgoing port. I set my gps to port 6. In IGuidance it won't detect the gps but if you manually choose port 6 it will work just fine.
Andy
iGuidance 2.1.3 locks up my Wizard after several minutes. Grrr...
I am having all sorts of trouble with my PDA2K (WM5) and iGuidance. Although I think it has more to do with my bluetooth than anything. When I first started trying to get it to work it gave me coordinates that I was in Africa... Anyway, I think I am going to go back to 2003SE.
I'm having a different problem with iGuidance v2.1.3 on WM5. It installs and runs just fine. I use BT over COM6 and it seems fine. The problem I have is that the coordinates are off. The strange thing is that when I run GPSInfo (a separate app) it shows the correct coordinates - iGudiance thinks they are different and thinks I'm in a different location ( a few miles away).
I gave up on it and decided to go back to 2003SE (iGuidace v2.1 that worked perfectly fine on that configuration a long time ago). I followed teh steps to format/clean hive and did the down grade but am having a different problem. I've seen other people running into similar issues but I've not been able to get around it
"BTTrayCE - bluetooth can no longer be used because the license has expired" - I have tried a number of things using different BT stacks, 2003SE builds, reset (soft+hard) etc. Same problem!!! Argh - I'm stuck. I really miss my GPS!
Hi krille,
I also had similar problems with my SX66 and iGuidance and finally decided to go back to win 2003 because it worked fine with it. In WM5 my BT GPS receiver was never able to make a connection with iGuidance. But now I am having a different problem. I cannot downgrade even though I followed all the instructions correctly posted on the BA_Downgrade page. The upgrade program ( MaUpgradeUt_noID.exe ) does not seem to identify the rom versions and though it gives me a successfully upgraded message nothing had happened. I cannot downgrade now and stuck with WM5. Did any of you experience this when downgrading and can offer me any help.
DEK.
I've been upgrading/downgrading with differnt ROMs without any problems
Make sure to disable activesync on the pc and copy the nbf files as described in http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BA_Downgrade_WM5. Sometimes the verion info update to/from doesn't show between WM5/2003SE...
What happens when you click Update to continue?
BaUpgradeUt.exe worked
Thanks for your reply. I followed all the steps as described in the link you have sent but MaUpgradeUt_noID.exe did not upgrade (downgrade to 2003SE) though I got a message saying it did. Then I tried the file BaUpgradeUt.exe in PH20B folder and it did work. My device data file says my SX66 is in fact PH20B1 though. I do not know why MaUpgradeUt_noID.exe cannot update my ROM. Anyway I am happy now with my WM2003SE and iGuidance and BT all work faster with ROM update to 1.40. Now I am planing to customize my ExtROM to have all my personal settings and programs so that I want feel bad not having WM2005. Thanks for your willingness to help.
DEK.

ARTE100

Hi, can anyone help me and tell how to make hard reset on htc ARTE100?
Thanks
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Artemis_Resets
Thanks, it works.
Problems with Room, Bluetooth, Wifi, overall System Restore needed
Good evening .
I have been trying to solve a problem that i have with my o2 xda. The problem is that the Bluetooth device is not working, it won’t even start, and I tried to turn it on from the communications manager but nothing. I tried to turn it on from the settings/communications/Bluetooth/turn Bluetooth make it visible to devices, but also nothing.
It turns on when I soft reset the device a few times, than sometimes it comes back on with the Bluetooth on, blue light flashing, but I’m unable to get it to pair with any devices. Sometimes my laptop will pick up the signal for a few seconds, but it is not able to sink with device.
I have tried everything I could think of, even have done some hard resets but nothing.
Someone told me to do an Artemis reset. So I downloaded the 4.02 with cube zip that I found around this website, but since I have never done such a procedure, in fact this is my first time with windows mobile, so I didn’t want to mess it up.
I read in this forums that third party applications can cause sometimes this problems because of driver contamination , my device did have lots of extra apps so that could be the problem .
In any case I’m not an expert, not even close especially with this system, so any help / suggestions / diagnostics / instructions, will be greatly appreciated.
The device is an o2 xda with built in gps, running windows mobile 6.1.
ROM Athemis Touch 4.02 WWe
Rom date : 4/8/8
Radio Version : 03.08.90
Protocol Version : 4.1.13.52
CPU: OMAP850
Speed: 201MHz
Ram: 64MB
Flash Size 128Mb
Data Bus 16bits
Storage size 44.74MB
And if the best solution is to do this artemis reset, i will really appreciate some instructions on how to exactly do this task, and if there is any known issues of this procedure killing the phone? , since sometimes with this types of "resets / flashes” this type of devices sometimes dies! So any help will be appreciated.
Thanks a lot.
Hope Corporation .
hi, have anyone schema arte100 (htc p3300)? thanx.

(Solved) IMEI changed to NILL (nothing) after flashing

I've a weird thing after flashing to the ROM 0.75 Full of bepe.
After some configuring and installing programs and 2 soft resets, the IMEI number was completely gone (Device information -> indentity). I found out because TomTom didn't recognize my map anymore.
It's not the ROM I think, because after flashing again the number is back to the original IMEI.
Have anyone seen this before?
Note: 99% sure that this has been caused by the McAfee Virusscan Enterprise 8.5i, module Access Protection. When I turn the VirusScan off, the IMEI stays after flashing.
which programs did you install, I also use bepe 0.75, no problems so far.
This happens to me every other soft reset
IMEI and device serial number both turn blank. Installed and registered programs (like hebre support) go into inactive mode due to registration failue. So I soft reset again and again until it works (2-3 time in average).
I use Indigo full but I guess it's common to all WM6 and has to do with some marginal timing issues with the hardware, coupled with some new firmware (WM6) that reads the data from flash too soon.
same happens to me in pdaviet rom but with bepe works fine
T-Rob said:
which programs did you install, I also use bepe 0.75, no problems so far.
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I install the programs which are in my signature, but the device hang once. I did a soft reset.
See 1st post.
TomTom traffic
Hallo stingray,
your TomTom original traffic works on this bepe Rom?
Greats Remo
Hmmm.... How does McAfee have anything to do with IMEI? I had this problem but have Trend AV SW on my PC....
Stingray,
are you sure it's McAfee?
I'm also using McAfee Virusscan Enterprise 8.5i with Access Protection (I had the Traffics Subscription issues)
Could this be causing the Device ID to change with some ROMS? IMEI is one of the things used to generate device ID isn't it?
This has got to be too coincidental to be ignored....but then again I flashed my phone about 3 times the other night, and thinking about it, it was on my laptop with no Mcafee OAS......Only mUn TE keeps working TT device ID

Device Stuck in Windows Mobile Screen

First of all: I read the Wiki, I followed the instructions, and I could once get it back to life.
But I want to know WHY this happens over and over again.
The story:
I have a MDA Vario II (Hermes, Tytn) for a long time to sync my business mails and calendar- entries. Some Time ago I found this Forum and updated the Device to Windows Mobile 6 (i'm Using Schaps 3.54b) and everything works like a charm.
A few weeks ago my boss as well got the same device, and unfortunately he saw me using Windows Mobile 6 while he was using the T-Mobile Windows Mobile 5.
He wanted me to update his device as well. As I did not have ANY Problems with WM6, I did not hesitate to update his device as well.
The devices are like "clones":
Same Radio- Version 1.51
Same OS - Schaps
Same Applications: Onebridge Mobile Client as the only "non-schaps" - App
Same Configuration: HTC Home without Sound- Tab, no other Extensions on Home.
Same Provider (T-Mobile)
Of course they have different IMEI and different MAC_ Adresses, but that is what it is supposed to be.
But since I gave the device to my boss, he already had the problem the second time: The device will not go over the Windows- Mobile- Splash- Screen. The first time I did not search the WIKI / Forum and just did a Hard- reset and everything was fine again.
Today problems started the second time: First of all the device was not recognized by his laptop (and my laptop eather) any more: It said "Unknown device". And while it always charges (orange led on) for the first few seconds after re- pluggin, it stopps charging after the error- Message on the laptop.
So I thought: Maybe an akku- problem and interchanged his akku with mine.
And now i have the Windows- Boot- Stuck- Thing again.
It's not that I could not reanimate the device by Hard- resetting it, but I want to understand the reason:
How can it be, that exactly the same hardware with exactly the same software reacts that different.
By the way: This already is the second device for my boss, the first one has already been exchanged... After it had Boot- Problems (I reflashed original Radio, Firmware, so that they did not say anything)
Can anyone help ?
EDIT:
I tried leaving the battery out for 20 Minutes -> no success
I tried leaving it in Boot- Screen for 10 Minutes (or even more) -> No Access
I connected it to my PC and it can be found and gets an IP- Adfress that I can ping, but ActiveSync does not connect and the Screen is still a Windows mobile Boot- Screen.
At the Moment I'am trieing to get a log via USB- Monitor. I'm gona post it when I get it...
EDIT2:
OK, cause it's the device of my boss I now gave him mine (after a hard-reset and reinstalltion of the needed application) and reanimated his one by just doing a hard- reset. It came back to live instantly and now I will try to reproduce this hang with his device whilest him using mine. Seems that everybody knows how to reanimate, but nobody knows, why this happens... I'll try to find out and report it back if I can find the reason.
I have the same problem after installing the new HTC Plus plug in.
My ROM is the supa dupa lite one.
Now i need to remember how to do a hard reset!
edit - hard reset go tme back to 'normal'
i tried supa dupa and superstorage dlite, my phone stuck same as you are. .... at last i put any stable .nbh in microsd. then pushed power+ok+soft rest button... reflash back. successful!
Mine with Schaps 4.31 & Radio 1.54 also stucks in Windows Mobile screen after a few day upgrading ROM & radio then installing HTC Plus.
Hard reset does the cure, but I lost all the data.
So what's the culprit ?
i had the same problem, i understood the problem is the calendar.
if you have a schedule in the calendar, with a reminder or with nothing, and you turn off the pda, it will freeze in the windows splash screen when you try to turn it on. Until the schedule is ended.
i had the shap's rom 3.54b, and i resolve installing the 4.30 rom.
bye!
everytime I have had such issues..........was a corrupt installation.
when I am flashing I no touch anything anymore........just gun shy now.
having the same problem, any solutions yet?

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