Hello again Reg/Software techies!
Is it possible to make a Reg tweak / software to auto detect Wifi ?
so that i wont have to set it up every time?
10x in advance,
That would be lovely...
There are tools available to turn it on/off at certain times of the day - but I guess, without it being "on", it can't detect the presence of a network, and thus it is a catch-22.
Best I can think of, is for it to be turned on every x minutes, and set to disconnect if it isn't connected to a network for >1 minute - thereby it would keep cycling around, but you could feasibly walk into a WiFi area and not pickup signal for as long as "x-1" minutes. Lets say you get it to check every 10 minutes, you could wait as long as 9 minutes after walking into a hotspot before it picked up the signal and stayed connected.
timetex said:
That would be lovely...
There are tools available to turn it on/off at certain times of the day - but I guess, without it being "on", it can't detect the presence of a network, and thus it is a catch-22.
Best I can think of, is for it to be turned on every x minutes, and set to disconnect if it isn't connected to a network for >1 minute - thereby it would keep cycling around, but you could feasibly walk into a WiFi area and not pickup signal for as long as "x-1" minutes. Lets say you get it to check every 10 minutes, you could wait as long as 9 minutes after walking into a hotspot before it picked up the signal and stayed connected.
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That's a really interesting thought. I wonder how well that would work (at least in terms of saving battery).
What I think the original poster wanted, however, is to give the Universal the ability to automatically connect to each unsecured network that it finds without any user intervention. Battery life aside, you can leave WiFi on all the time, but if it detects a network it prompts you before it connects.
Brett
Brett knows what I meant
although - it would be nice to tell the device:
search for an unsecured wi-fi connection every 2 minutes.
if it disconnects - in another 2 minutes it will search another connection anyway!! 8)
(as for batt. life - true. HOWEVER- if its a prog. that does it, it doesnt have to be ALWAYS on...)
Well, is there such a programm or option for this?
any 1?
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Okay... on my previous phones (HTC with WM, Nokia with symbian...) you could have data connection active, but the phone would use it in X minutes/hours (just as often you setup everything to update, like mail).
With android, I have noticed that data connection is active all the time. It may not make transfer constantly, but the connection is active. Why is this so? Have you all noticed this too?
I have noticed that by turning mobile connection off, I can get my Desire battery to last x3 times longer then leaving it active (example: 20 hours with constant data connection on, 2-3 days with data connection disabled all the time).
Why doesn't the phone use the connection only when needed, and disconnect?
get a program called juice defender that will activate the connection by a schedule i.e 1m of active connection every 5 minutes.
I had that program, no problem in that aspect. My question is: why is only android doing this? Why android must keep the connection active all the time in 1 hour, when it will really need that connection for a minute every hour?
I am not asking for a third-party solutions, I am talking about general android function
Hi all,
I just purchased Tasker and was trying to do a simple task that
automatically turn on/off the wifi when I'm at home. All I do is:
Contexts | Tasks
Cell Near | Turn On Wifi
Wifi Near | Turn Off Wifi (Exit task) (optional?)
I also have another profile that simply turn off the wifi when I lock
the screen.
The problem is that whenever I unlock my phone, the wifi is connected
correctly to my home wifi, but after likes 10-30s, the wifi turn
off itself so my phone back to use 3G network, and after 1-2min it
reconnect itself to my home wifi again, this seems to happen again
and again? So what is the problem here? Hope someone experienced with Tasker can help me.
Thanks
you can go to wireless setting -> advanced setting to manually disable wi-fi hibernation upon screen off, or you will be creating an "infinite loop" with your task being triggered repeatedly.
after all, I found this too much a perfect partner to my android, and it actually helps me getting rid a number of applications that likely consume RAM individually.
Done that too but no help. Sometimes when I unlock the screen and although all the requirements are met (Cell Near, Wifi Near), the wifi still not turned on, I go to the wifi setting to check and see that it keep displaying "obtaining ip address from ..." and sometimes it just says "error". Don't know if this is because I use JPE modem with JPY base? Maybe I will try flashing a correct ROM and see if this problem can be fixed.
Cell Near | Turn On Wifi
Wifi Near | Turn Off Wifi (Exit task) (optional?)
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It appears to me that this what you have configured.
Cell Near (Cell tower near your home) - Turn on Wifi - Which works
Within range of certain WiFi Ap (Your home WiFi?) - Turn off WiFi - Which could be causing the WiFi to switch off in an endless loop?
Maybe you want to check your config logic?
fullerms said:
It appears to me that this what you have configured.
Cell Near (Cell tower near your home) - Turn on Wifi - Which works
Within range of certain WiFi Ap (Your home WiFi?) - Turn off WiFi - Which could be causing the WiFi to switch off in an endless loop?
Maybe you want to check your config logic?
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I thought the Cell Near & Wifi Near go together as they're in the same profile. The logic should be if Cell Near & Wifi Near then Turn on Wifi else Turn off Wifi. The else part is the exit task of this profile. Even if I remove this exit task, the phone still turn wifi off by itself?
kennytung said:
I thought the Cell Near & Wifi Near go together as they're in the same profile. The logic should be if Cell Near & Wifi Near then Turn on Wifi else Turn off Wifi. The else part is the exit task of this profile. Even if I remove this exit task, the phone still turn wifi off by itself?
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Remove the wifi near. If Cell near is true, then it means that you should be within range of your wifi and therefore the wifi near statement is redundant. If you are within range, wifi will automatically scan and connect to your wifi.
The exit task should only be to turnoff wifi. It is implied that exit task kicks in once you are out of range of your 'Home' Cell Tower.
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Remove the wifi near. If Cell near is true, then it means that you should be within range of your wifi and therefore the wifi near statement is redundant.
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I don't think wifi near is redundant. Being within cells that cover my house doesn't mean that I'm actually in my house right? So I think the two layer Cell Near and Wifi Near is efficiently enough but why it can connect to wifi in the first place and seconds later the wifi is turned off and on and off and on... I don't know why?
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I don't think wifi near is redundant. Being within cells that cover my house doesn't mean that I'm actually in my house right? So I think the two layer Cell Near and Wifi Near is efficiently enough but why it can connect to wifi in the first place and seconds later the wifi is turned off and on and off and on... I don't know why?
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I just guess when you leave your home, you are no longer in proximity of your own wi-fi access point so you just get your wi-fi off.
Though, as you leave further away from your home, your mobile begins to search for cell towers that are not supposed to be covered in your "cell near" context, and once your mobile get connected back to your home cell, your "wi-fi on" event would be triggered once again, and the process repeats.
I think the best way to solve this, apart from including more cell IDs, is to set the cooldown period of your first profile (in profile setting dialogue) to a certain value, saying 10 minutes (or a sufficient duration for your mobile to completely get away from your home towers)
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I just guess when you leave your home, you are no longer in proximity of your own wi-fi access point so you just get your wi-fi off.
Though, as you leave further away from your home, your mobile begins to search for cell towers that are not supposed to be covered in your "cell near" context, and once your mobile get connected back to your home cell, your "wi-fi on" event would be triggered once again, and the process repeats.
I think the best way to solve this, apart from including more cell IDs, is to set the cooldown period of your first profile (in profile setting dialogue) to a certain value, saying 10 minutes (or a sufficient duration for your mobile to completely get away from your home towers)
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I was staying at my home the whole time I was using this profile
Check the value following the / symbol
Are you using the scan function in Cell Near? It should retrieve the ID of the closest cell tower with a value following a slash:
CDMA: 99999 / 8
Try changing the value to a wild card:
CDMA: 99999 / *
I have been using the following to turn WIFI on and off:
Add a new Profile and select State. Then select Cell Near and click the Scan button to find which Cell Towers are near your current location. Check the Invert button. Add a Task to for WIFI and set to Off.
Duplicate this profile and uncheck Invert and set WIFI to On.
Confirm Cell Tower IDs
You can confirm the Cell Tower ID by downloading one of these free Apps:
Antennas
Cell Tower Locator
You will want to use the BSID number listed in one of these Apps in Tasker for Cell Near.
HI Guys,
After having moved from my HTC legend to an HTC trophy 7 and getting used to all the interesting little fiddly bits of WP7 I was finally happy (Im mainly talking about the windows live mail contact sync issue).
All contacts finally fixed after a some time sorting them all and adding the phone numbers etc.
Anyway long story short the does not seem to be a way to make the WIFI stay on when the phone sleeps meaning that my preciously short 3g data will be used (Vodafone skimping and giving us only 500mb).
Has any one come up with a way to force the WIFI to stay on ala android sleep policy?
Cheers guys!
Your 3g would only be used if you are constantly downloading emails. Everything is push on WP7 so there wont be apps pulling data other than email. I wouldn't worry about it. WP7 is not android.
If I disable 3G while sleeping on WiFi is there ever a chance WiFi won't wake up for the push/pull of email or am I worrying about nothing?
Keep it connected to a charger or your PC and the wifi will stay ON.
Thanks for the replies guys,
Hopefully data usage will be better than android but I would sill like to be able to turn wifi on all the time is I needed to. In the mean time all email set to as arrives so should cut down on usage a bit.
Lets see what this next update brings
cheers
roccotune said:
I would sill like to be able to turn wifi on all the time is I needed to.
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As the other chap said, plug your phone into power and wifi will not turn off. I nall honesty, wanting the wifi to remain on while the phone is on battery power is a bit daft because it wouldn't last longer than a couple of hours.
Thanks again guys,
Granted leaving the wifi on all the time may drain the batt faster but my HTC legend managed like this with no issues as Android turns off 3g when WIFI is on saving some power. I think we should at least be able to change the WIFI sleep profile like android - 5m, 15m, never etc
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Thanks again guys,
Granted leaving the wifi on all the time may drain the batt faster but my HTC legend managed like this with no issues as Android turns off 3g when WIFI is on saving some power. I think we should at least be able to change the WIFI sleep profile like android - 5m, 15m, never etc
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I assume you mean that Android turns off 3g when Wifi is *CONNECTED*. I leave my Wifi switched on all the time and what happens is when the phone switches off, it disconnects, but the wifi setting remains *ON*.
Leaving it on is good because when I get home it connects to my Wifi network automatically but while out and about the phone doesn't keep trying to connect, which would drain the battery a lot.
So yeah, make the distinction between Wifi being "ON" and "CONNECTED".
This issue has happend 2 times. It used my 3G data over 90MB for APP downloading!
As you know, the phone won't allow you to download a big APP without wifi or pc connection by design.
Yesterday I downloaded the trial version of Need for Speed(about 127MB) from marketplace and turned on WIFI before that. I just checked the detailed list of my 3G usage yesterday. In that time it downloaded 90MB+ from 3G network in 20 minutes.
I guess the phone turned off the wifi in sleep mode and continue downloading the APP through 3G.
It should be a bug!
Yes, it is a known issue that WP7 turns off wi-fi when phone goes into sleep. To work around this issue, you need to keep the phone plugged in.
Modern wi-fi chips in phones drain less battery juice when you leave it on all the time than constantly off-on-off. Also, it does not necessary use more battery downloading via wi-fi than 3G. I guess MS didn't get that notice when implementing WP7
We can only hope this is addressed in upcoming NoDo update.
Pretty sure this feature isn't designed like this to save battery while connected to a wifi network, I'm sure it's implemented with this design to save battery while you AREN'T in range of one of your networks, rather than having the wireless chip constantly poll for networks...
As someone else said, just plug your phone into the power outlet and wifi will always stay on.
Hi,
Using GNex, stock JB 4.11, Wind Mobile Canada, $40 plan, unlimited data & Canada wide.
Please excuse in advance for the novice questions. I am not yet familiar with Wind Mobile. The customer support is too long and submitting a question to their website required around 5 days to get an answer which is generally irrelevant in my short experience. Hope some expert users here can share some of your knowledge.
Last week, suddenly during a phone conversation, the phone became totally disconnected voice & data. The next morning, the situation didn't improve, so I rebooted the phone (power off / on). Then the phone could connect to voice, but no data (gray icon instead of blue). I stayed with no data for 3 days. During that time, I tried a few reboots, changing various network settings (APN, Network Operators, Data roaming, etc.). None of that worked, then I made another reboot and suddenly everything is back to normal (no roaming and data OK).
Q1. Signal strength variation: what is the cause that makes a signal vary? For the same location, sometimes signal changes from 3 bars to 1 within a few minutes.
Q2. What caused a network to black out temporarily? That's what I got last week during the entire night. The reception icon is a black outline triangle (no voice, no data). I purposely disabled roaming, I admit a network could have some issues, but I have hard time to admit that a disruption could last 12 hours. May be the issue is my phone? It was not rebooted since 7 days.
Q3. How often should I reboot the phone? By reboot, I mean power off/on. I hope this is the correct term. Is it possible that a frequent reboot help the phone to be more responsive? I tend to think so because all the network issues I got were magically fixed by reboot.
Q4. Why would a reboot fix a data connection issue? In my case, a few reboots on day 1 didn't fix. Many network settings changes didn't reconnect data. Then finally another reboot on day 3 fixed data connection.
Thanks in advance for any help.
Welcome to the Nexus and its crap radio. Try turning off 4G, once I did that I never lost signal again. With 4G on I get disconnected from the network randomly throughout the day
SirVilhelm said:
Welcome to the Nexus and its crap radio. Try turning off 4G, once I did that I never lost signal again. With 4G on I get disconnected from the network randomly throughout the day
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How to turn off 4G? Wind Mobile operates on AWS network 1700/2100 MHz (UMTS band 4), and HSPA+ for data. I believe it is not 4G. On the phone Network Settings, there is only an option "Use only 2G Network" which is not a good option for me. If I enabled "Use only 2G Network" the phone shuts off data and changes to roaming mode.
just set ur nexus on airplane mode for a second..
then disable the airplane mode instantly..
u ll gain ur net working widout reboot... )
dinglic mass
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just set ur nexus on airplane mode for a second..
then disable the airplane mode instantly..
u ll gain ur net working widout reboot... )
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Oh wow, that's a cool tips.
I hope someone can answers my other questions, I like to understand the "how things works" side.
2LoT said:
Q1. Signal strength variation: what is the cause that makes a signal vary? For the same location, sometimes signal changes from 3 bars to 1 within a few minutes.
Any number of influences. A microwave, air ionization, temperature, humidity, output from the tower not consistant, and plus just the variations of the phone. Going by bars is a bad way to gauge anyways, it could have only dropped signal for a split second but it doesnt update the bars frequently so it would appear to be low signal longer than it could have actually been. Your phone works by line of sight, picture a tight wire from your phone to the tower, anything that crosses in that line reduces signal.
Q2. What caused a network to black out temporarily? That's what I got last week during the entire night. The reception icon is a black outline triangle (no voice, no data). I purposely disabled roaming, I admit a network could have some issues, but I have hard time to admit that a disruption could last 12 hours. May be the issue is my phone? It was not rebooted since 7 days.
That actually is hard to answer, you would need to contact your provider to see if they have a log of an outage at that time before going into whether it was the phone or not.
Q3. How often should I reboot the phone? By reboot, I mean power off/on. I hope this is the correct term. Is it possible that a frequent reboot help the phone to be more responsive? I tend to think so because all the network issues I got were magically fixed by reboot.
Never unless things act funny. A reboot is usually healthy for operating systems (i know many do not). I personally don't intentionally reboot mine, it usually happens because I'm screwing with clock speeds
Q4. Why would a reboot fix a data connection issue? In my case, a few reboots on day 1 didn't fix. Many network settings changes didn't reconnect data. Then finally another reboot on day 3 fixed data connection.
Like any software there are chance of a 'glitch' where the modem and the driver have issues communicating. Toggling airplane mode off and then back on re-initializes this and in most cases fixes the communication problem. Rebooting will have the same effect. I would only worry if you are needing to do this often.
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I would also contact your provider. They may have an issue with the tower you are connecting to.
Perfectly understood, appreciated very much your detailed answers. Can you please clarify below?
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Any number of influences. A microwave, air ionization, temperature, humidity, output from the tower not consistant, and plus just the variations of the phone. Going by bars is a bad way to gauge anyways, it could have only dropped signal for a split second but it doesnt update the bars frequently so it would appear to be low signal longer than it could have actually been. Your phone works by line of sight, picture a tight wire from your phone to the tower, anything that crosses in that line reduces signal.
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Makes sense. Indeed, when I said "For the same location, sometimes signal changes from 3 bars to 1 within a few minutes". Actually, I mean a room and I was walking/moving so may be the orientation of the phone explained why the reception was inconstant.
Regarding your answer above output from the tower not consistant. Is it possible that the tower reduces its signal strength when the number of users increases? Similar to users sharing a finite band width?
Yes, even orientation of the phone can have an affect, depends how the antenna is set up inside the phone, i havent seen it so i have no answer for that.
ya, as you move around you could have been what blocked the direct sight of the tower, signal passes through nonmetal objects but each time it does, it loses strength depending what it passes through
@OP I also have the same problem, I am also with Wind and had to do force reboot to make it reboot.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using xda app-developers app
Flash the UGLC1 radio to your nexus. I'm with Wind as well and that radio gets me good service!