1). why it doesnt have belt clip ?
2). where i can find it in the lowest price on the net ?
3). can you show me another good case for my JJ ?
thank's
omry
1: Jasjar is too heavy for a leather case with clip. Aluminum, no problem, but leather is too soft and to weak to hold it like that
2: Some internet shops do offer slightly lower prices, but the difference is compensated by the fact that Piel Frama includes shipping in the price. If you want quality, be prepared to pay for it. I love Piel Frama, Covertec and Vaja, and for me there is no alternative.
3: If you really want cheap, go with http://shop.brando.com.hk They offer rock bottom prices and decent quality.
Piel Frama
I have the great chace to visit Piel Frama in the south of Spain. I was talking with the co-workers, all are really friendly and open to ear you what do you need. I was talking with the "gain" and I asked for made a special case. A couple days after I have a new model for my Jasjar, beautiful and always in my belt.
They really made a handworked job, artesanal. Try to send an e-mail and ask for your ideal case or whatever.
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cidriver said:
I have the great chace to visit Piel Frama in the south of Spain. I was talking with the co-workers, all are really friendly and open to ear you what do you need. I was talking with the "gain" and I asked for made a special case. A couple days after I have a new model for my Jasjar, beautiful and always in my belt.
They really made a handworked job, artesanal. Try to send an e-mail and ask for your ideal case or whatever.
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can yoot take a picture of the new case?
thank's
omry
ebay
hi,
i got my piel frama case at ebay.de (germany, don't know about availability in israel) at €39,95, which is by far the cheapest i have seen and more than compensates for the free shipping piel frama offers. it was an original, came in the original nice box and all! :lol:
here's a link, this is the same guy i bought it from (recommended!)
http://cgi.ebay.de/Piel-Frama-Leder...843636129QQcategoryZ38994QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
laters,
dennis
I came across this deal on ebay (UK):
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5845495318&rd=1&sspagename=STRK:MEWA:IT&rd=1
Please, find as attachment the pictures you ask me.
how much did you add moeny ?
Excuse me, I don't understand your question, can you repeat it please?
I think he means how much did it cost. Or how much EXTRA did it cost?
Apologies if that's not what you meant, but even so, I'd like to know the answer as I think that case looks rather nice.
As I wrote, I was in the south of Spain, I visit the Piel Frama Store in Ubrique and I meet every worker. The gave me a big favor, and I didn't pay extra money. As everyone knows, we have a special device, ist to heavy and has a lot of buttons. They also learn with people like you or me, the listen the customer and then they develope new models or ideas.
I think it's great that they did that for you at no extra cost. I wonder if they will add your case to their list of available cases.
Do you find that the clear plastic sheet over the keyboard traps a lot of dust? This is the only thing that is stopping me from buying one of these casesd at the moment.
Melty, I know somebody who has the new model and he has no problem, in fact, he told me the plastic is a very good quality, support the JJ without no problems. Yo can also press any key without no problems.
My case, dosen't has the plastic you mentioned.
Aha! So part of your modification was to remove the plastic. Did you have to change anything else to hold the Universal more securely? In other words, do you think that if I bought a standard case and just removed the plastic myself it would still hold the device safely? (i.e. does the plastic hold the device at all?) If so then I will definitely buy one. Sorry for all these questions, but I don't want to buy a case which does not do what I want!
Not, I took the first one, til then, Piel Frama modified the case. Why? Costumer said they have some problems to close the JJ totally. So Piel Frama received a disclaim and start to work in a new model. The model is with plastic as you saw in Piel Frama Internet page. I have the old one, I used a lot so I don't have any proble to close the JJ. A friend of mine has a review and some pics. http://sagit1964.blogspot.com/2005/12/funda-avestruz-by-piel-fra_113440007311726582.html
Hope I help you a litte bit.
I see. So it's possible that removing the plastic would make the case less secure (i.e. the Universal could fall out).
Thanks for all your help.
My idea, the plastic is an advance to protec your Jasjar and the Qwerty. Do not remove it.
Remember, Piel Frama, only make case for our Jasjar without the extra accesory we were talking about. Is my responsability, they told me, the Jasjar is more than 285 grs. is to heavy for this kind of material (the plastic for belt) dosen't work for a long terms. So, that's why they sold that case without the belt plastic accesory.
This is my 3 Piel Frama Case and always with the best quality, that's why they sell the produts in more than half world. Handmade!!!!
well, I am glad to hear happy people. My case is still in its box and there will remain. the new design didn't improve it, to my modest opinion. closing issues still remain and moreover the plastic is horrible.
i paied 70 euros and saw it on a site (I will post the URL but now don't remember) at about 50!
anyway, it is not the price. it is just that I think they could think of a different holding system but still want to stick with the same one.
bye
Hey Alex!!!
Howse it going mate? Still not sore at me i hope
I am quite happy with my Piel Frama case and highly recommend it to everyone. Regarding the price factor, the reason you find it cheaper elsewhere is because Piel Frama include's shipping charge in their price and the shipping method is through UPS worldwide which means you receive the case in 2 working days doesn't matter where you are
I would ask you to try out the case for sometime again, you just might like it the 2nd time around.
Cheers!
Related
See http://www.pielframa.com/promo_jasjar.htm
Only problem is that it would appear there is no belt clip
Nice!!
That's the first good case I've seen!
Looks professional and easy to use. Its a bit expensive to order it yet.
But that's the case I'm going to get for my MDA Pro
The missing belt-clip makes this case useless for me .. i want one with a belt clip !!!
- Superbowl
A beltclip is necessary for me, too. Without this function the standard MDA Pro case is OK with me. I think a case like the standard for the magician would be perfect for me - belt clip an quick release...
looks awesome, dunno that i'd trust having the pda open and the cover shut as those storage cards in the case get a tad close to the screen for my liking!
Flubster
There is not any plan at piel frama to add belt clip , i sent an e-mail to piel frama & they reply :
Regarding the belt clip, we have to inform you that due to the weight of the device and the design of the case, we cannot instal a belt clip on this new leather case. The clip would not stand the weight of the device on the belt. Besides, if we would instal a belt clip on the case, the functionality of the case would not be the intended one as the user would not be able to use the device with the belt clip on it.
We are sure that you will understand this situation and will agree that the belt clip is not a good idea for this model.
Please, do not hesitate to contact us if you need further assistance.
Very best regards and have a nice day!!
I just bought the Piel Frama case. The leather feels good but there is one design flaw. It has a strip of leather on top of the keyboard. With it my PDA cannot close properly. I am so afraid to damage the hinges on my new toy. If you have any ideas to modify this problem please let me know.
If anybody wants to buy my Piel Frama case for JASJAR please let me know. I live in Hong Kong
greatestkelvin said:
I just bought the Piel Frama case. The leather feels good but there is one design flaw. It has a strip of leather on top of the keyboard. With it my PDA cannot close properly. I am so afraid to damage the hinges on my new toy. If you have any ideas to modify this problem please let me know.
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You can cut the strip on top, near costures... I have one and no damage on JJ...
I am also very tempted to cut the strip of leather. But I was thinking if you do, after awhile the whole JASJAR might just fall out. Its really a pain to see such a nice case go to waste.
I was going to cut the leather strip as well. It does not seem like this is really what is holding it in so there would not be much harm in cutting it so that the device could fully close.
Can someone who did this post pics and say if it makes an improvement?
Cutting the case
Why are you guys cutting the case? Pielframa should replace the faulty cases. In the past they have replaced cases whithout the need to send back your faulty cases. Most people buy them from outside Spain. Sending it back internationally could be a pain. In the past when they released the first batch of the ipaq iPAQ H6340 cases, these cases were also faulty (it does not fit well). They did not recall the cases, but replaced them.
By the way the Pielframa issue is also mentioned on another thread. See
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=183962#183962
Maybe they've changed their policies on replacements. As you stated, I don't want to mess with a 2-3 week turnaround from sending from the USA and back to Spain.
Here is what I got from Piel Frama:
Thank you very much for your email and for your kind words about our products.
We are sorry to hear that you are having problems with the case. In fact, some of our customers have informed us that they are having some problems to close the device. Our craftsmen have been thinking about it and they have thought about a solution which would be to take the thin strap over the keyboard from the case so that the problem will be solved and the device will close without problems.
So that, we would ask you to ship the case back to us by regular mail and we would modify it the case. Our postal address is the following one:
PIEL FRAMA
Avda. Fuente San Francisco S/Nº
P. I. "LA PIEL"
11600 Ubrique (Cádiz)
Spain
Once we get it, we will make this modification in the case and we will ship it back to you.
If its a matter of just cutting out the back leather strip, I can do that myself instead of dealing with a 2-3 week turnaround not to mention the mailing costs in addition to costs that I've already paid, to mail it to them.
It is not very customer friendly. Pielframe cases are certainly not cheap. A standard (i.e. not crocodile or ostrich) Jasjar case cost at least 70 euro's about 87 $. So we should expect good quality and good working cases. If a case is faulty which could damage the jasjar / MDA Pro then they are liable for that. So having customers to spend more money (time and shipping cost) to have it fix does not really make sense.
My Piel Frama case just arrived this morning (ordered on 2 Nov.). I was excitied because my normally they have great products. The leather is nice, but I have to report the problem mentioned above is worse than I imagined.
With my case, the leather strap across the top of the keyboard prevents the screen from closing by about 8mm!
I can not even snap-close the case because the screen sticks up so high --even if I apply pressure.
So, my case is completely unusable. I wonder if they had real Universal units during the design process, or if they just worked form published specs.
Back to Piel Frama.
I was visiting Piel Frama Factory. They have an I-Mate JASJAS to probe the cases. I have a cocodrile leather case and my JASJAR close well. You can see my blog (click in my firm or www) ... and will see, in last picture, the Piel Frama's JasJar.
Have Fun
my word of advice is don't use the case unless you do something about it. after 2 days of using my piel frama case I removed it and notice that the hinge is quite loose. previously the joints were tight, right now when I move the screen portion there is a clicking sound and it is coming from the joints. piel frama case has damaged my toy instead of protecting it. I just cut away the top portion leather that is above the keyboard. I don't care about sending it back, anyway what can they do when the design itself is flawed.
I did expect a little more than just "send the case back to us", but I guess that is the way customer service has gotten these days. Fortunately, I purchased my case from a reseller in the US and only paid $54 but still expected better from Piel Frama.
This bad press isn't going to be helping them sell many cases, because most of us hear about these things through forums such as this one.
Does cutting away the back leather strap appear to make a difference when closing the Universal now? I'm ready to start hacking mine!
yes , cutting it off does help quite bit, its much better now. however it will not completely close because there are still 2 more pieces of leather at the side. what I did was that I used a clamp for about 15 mins both sides. it looks ok much better than before. a few guys on this forum has also done so. afterall the machin is more precious than the case
greatestkelvin said:
yes , cutting it off does help quite bit, its much better now. however it will not completely close because there are still 2 more pieces of leather at the side. what I did was that I used a clamp for about 15 mins both sides. it looks ok much better than before. a few guys on this forum has also done so. afterall the machin is more precious than the case
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Hmm ... cutting the back stip off lowers the lid just a little. Cosmetically, the appearance is nicer with the strap. There's still some pressure on the back hinge when you snap the case closed. But, it looks to me like the top lid of the jj is flexing a little and like closing the lid is depressing the remaining leather on the sides that's causing problems. This pressure on the lid bothers me, but I'm not sure it will damage the hinge on my jj. I'm going to think about this more before deciding whether to return it to Frama.
I had, and still have, a slight clicking sound when closing the lid. This clicking sound isn't there at all if I pull the lid closed from the right side. But, it is there if I pull the lid closed from the left side. The swivel mechanism is rotated slightly counterclockwise and that is why right vs. left side pulling down of the lid causes no clicking vs. clicking.
This is not to say that the Frama case couldn't cause hinge problems for some. I don't think it would for me ... but I'm reluctant to snap the case shut now until I investigate further.
Hi All,
I can't decide which case to get for my XDA EXEC.
I would like to use it on my belt occasionaly, so one with a belt clip or loop would be preferred.
From your experiences, which case is the best to go for ?
Thanks.
The t-mobile 6315 case is the best I tried until now (my 3rd for the Universal). It is a holster type, as in, you carry it on your belt and take the Universal out to use it.
It is a surprisingly good fit, and it is very easy to take the device out and put it back in, at the same time, it is very safe when it is sitting on your belt.
The guy I bought it from at ebay has 2 left
http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-HP-iPAQ-OEM...840044486QQcategoryZ15036QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
And it costs you 1/4 of anything else you are going to buy out there.
Doesn't look like he ships to the UK though !
Does size matter?
atekant,
I looked up the dimensions of the iPAQ 6315 and compared them to the JasJar. Here they are:
iPAQ JasJar
118.872 mm 127.7 mm
74.93 mm 81 mm
18.542 mm 25 mm
So based on the demensions posted by HP and imate, the JasJar is larger than the 6315. Since I'm used to seeing demensions in inches/feet, I have no idea if these differences are significant. Do you find that the case is too small? Did you have to modify it? Because if not, I may end up purchasing one from www.casesonline.com, but get a slightly different color combo than the one you found on ebay. Thank you for any help.
This same guy has 52 under a different listing, very quick delivery BTW.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5771486213&category=15036#ebayphotohosting
weather, the fit is perfect, not tight and not loose, the Uni just goes in & out easily, yet the clip is tight on the belt. This is actually near identical to the HP case (larger one) selling for U$49 retail.
weatheryoko
I had the same questions when ordering it, and I was quite sure it would end up being too tight, but it is not tight at all.
The front, back, and the flip cover (with magnetic closure) is leather (I mean fake leather like substance, but not bad). The bottom, and the sides are elastic bands (about 1 inch wide) and have enough give to let the Universal slide in, and at the same time hold it tight enough.
You flip open the top and the case opens like a change purse would so you can slide your fingers in to grab the device.
I have stopped looking for a case for the Universal, that is how happy I am with it.
Thank you both....
Wow, that was a fast reply. Thank you. It sounds like I may the specific case that you bought (with the elastic bands on the side). So I might hold off on buying the one from casesonline. One last question..... Is there a slot to hold SD cards? Thanks again.
Has 2 slots. Go for it, best $12 I ever spent
I got mine yesterday. First when I open it, I felt as it seems it was made from not such a high quality material.
But when I try to use it, I was extremelly happy.
It was indeed made for the Universal! It fits very well, and very comfortable to put in the Universal and take it out. The belt clip is very nice as well. Finally, I reach the point where I can stop hunting for a perfect case for my Universal. I have tried few before: the original case that I modified with a belt clip, the metal case, and a PDA keyboard case. And this one is the best and I'm going to use it with my Universal from this point forward.
I feel upset with imate or HTC though, if they can sell a device with $1000 price, they should be able to include such a perfect case that only cost $5.
I guess this case is just perfectly made for Universal.
Some pictures of this case
Here are some pictures of my Universal case for the benefits of all of you. Like I said, it simply fits the Universal nicely. Look at the bottom cut, this allows you to take out the Universal easily. And I have no more problem with the stylus flying out when pulling the Universal out of the case (the problem with the original Universal case). Best value for the price ($5 plus tax and shipping, around $14) that you can get.
Does it have a belt clip or a belt loop? You missed taking a picture of the back. Please.
Hi,
strange that there is - still - no separate "carrying case" with a holster available for the i-mate JASJAR / Qtek 9000 other than cases offering complete insertion of the device thus being forced also to work with the device inserted.
Good news:
Expansys will be offering one, watch out here
http://www.expansys.com/product.asp?code=125516
Bad news:
It is EUR 53 here in Europe, which is quite a lot :-(
Second: Expansys is not really renowned for keeping the price it announces before availability of product, neither do they keep dates of delivery. (This product was first announced as "available before Christmas", then 23 Dec., then 2 Jan., now 6 Jan. in Europe, which is a public holiday in many countries here...)
Expansys says the manufacturer is "Premier Systems", though Google does not seem to know a manufacturer under this name.
Obviously this is just some fantasy brand producing for Expansys ???
Does anyone know who is producing this case or hides behind "Premier Systems" ?
(Strange enough that none of the big case manufacturers: Covertec, Krusell, ... offers such a case for the device.)
As my last PDA was an iPAQ 4700, for which I purchased the original holster case, I tried it out for my Qtek 9000 (identical with the im-mat JASJAR).
Almost fits perfectly
(Bad: Now my iPAQ, which is still a cute device, however lacking GSM connectivity, is "naked"...)
The 6315 is similar in size to the hx4700 afair, though I never saw the case one guy described here (attached photos a few posts downwards).
Ok, there we go. The back of the case.
Its a belt clip, not a loop. Very comfortable, its not moving around, not too lose, not too tight, just perfect.
Originally I was thinking to buy that XaX case as well, but its too expensive ($50?) and there is an opening on top intended for the headphone, but I dun like it considering if there is a rain drop into it, that's it.
Ok, there we go. The back of the case.
Its a belt clip, not a loop. Very comfortable, its not moving around, not too lose, not too tight, just perfect.
Originally I was thinking to buy that XaX case as well, but its too expensive ($50?) and there is an opening on top intended for the headphone, but I dun like it considering if there is a rain drop into it, that's it.
Thanks very much for the pictures.
Piel Frama - sweet!
my piel frama case just arrived in the mail today - very nice!! it retails for around €60 - or you can buy it brand-new on ebay for €40like i did
here's the link, i'll see if i can attach some pics as well!
http://cgi.ebay.de/Piel-Frama-Leder...841638524QQcategoryZ38994QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
merry christmas
dennis
and here's another picture - this case covers the keyboard (on my old psion a few of the keys were rubbed blank from usage, and i've seen that problem reported on mda III's as well. plus you can leave the device in the case while using all t's features! :lol:
Hi all, does anyone know where to get T-Mobile case in Europe?
Thanks
t-mobile case
@stric
if you are talking about the case that came with the original mda profrom t-mobile, you can have mine, if you cover s&h! let me know if you're interested!
merry christmas
dennis
Hi, no I ment the case for HP 6340 which is being sold on ebay (but only in USA ). Thanks anyway.
Marry christmas and happy new year to all of you
http://www.doml.co.uk/productdec.asp?pid=2136&model=jas_jar&modeln=i-Mate JASJAR
Looks to be the best Universal case, though having read the issues of the case not allowing the phone to close properly, was just wondering if anyone's got good / bad experiences of this one. Also, any other suggestions as I believe I really do need one for this phone - particularly one with a belt clip or some kind.
Comments appreciated.
Cheers
Ant
May be look for Piel Frama case
I haven't yet bought but I think about more to a Piel Frama case. It is quite similar but with some details such as the way keyboard is maintained which seems better.
You can look in this blog (sorry it is in french). The guy seems happy of it?
:arrow: http://ouziel.blogs.com/pierre/2005/11/etui_piel_frama.html
My French is a little rusty, but looking at the pictures it would appear that for his case as well, the lid is not allowed to close properly. This could, in theory, start to create problems later on for the hinge mechanism.
Any others thoughts?
Ant
Sorry, I've just realised I put this in the Upgrading, rather than Accessories bit.
Any chance a mod could move it there?
Cheers
Ant
I am a lover Piel Frama user since my first PPC and before see how they work in the south of Spain... they still working really hard as a hand made workers. The quality seems very, very good and if you want to know more about Piel Frama, please visit: http://www.pielframa.com/indexeng.htm
£1.79 from Tesco, lightly padded cordura small camera case.
It fits the Universal perfectly, and if you push it in SD slot outwards the flap leaves enough space for wired headphones to come out.
Bargain!
what do you guys think?
I just got one and it fits wicked !
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=9704622961&rd=1&sspagename=STRK:MESE:IT&rd=1
I purchased the same item last month, its branded T Mobile, but a good fit. It has elasticated sides so would probably be suitable for other PDAs, I can also use it for my Sharp Zaurus SL-C760.
You may want to shop around on eBay as I purchased from a US seller for £7.99 including delivery although it took 3 weeks to arrive.
Mike
yeah I realised that these ones were a little more expensive but they are in the UK so easier to trace etc. and plus mines arrived next day, so I was well happy
In North America?
Does anybody know where I can purchase a leather case like this one in North America?
I've been looking for a case for my Universal that is the same as the Qtek case. Not a skin but a belt holster that has a magnetic clip for closing but the Universal slides out completely when taking it out of the leather case -- oriented on your belt horizontally.
Is this what you're looking for?????
http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-LEATHER-CAS...708156343QQcategoryZ15036QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
This is the one I use for my JasJar. Great carrying case. I purchased mine from this seller (In fact I bought two). Works great. Good seller. JasJar fits right in.
Best deal in my opinion.
Good luck.
Take a look at this company, the Brando cases are considered one of the best cases to buy.
Flip Case
http://shop.brando.com.hk/bwdopod900leathercasef.php
I've bought 4 of my cases over the years from this company, although they are based in Hong Kong I have never had any problems with the service.
The delivery has always been within a week to the UK. I bought the side opening case last week from them and I'm very pleased with the quality
Side Case
http://shop.brando.com.hk/bwdopod900leathercases.php
Hope this helps.
I have to agree about BRANDO. I have bought several cases from them and they have always been very fast at delivery and courteous. Once i had a faulty case and after an email and photo of the problem they immediately replaced it!
Their screen protectors are also amazing, ive been using them on an A920, A925, A1000, SX45 and now my Exec.
The case from the first post is EXACTLY like the case that cme with my HP Ipaq H6340. I used it for a while until i hanged it for a krusell.
If any of you guys want a source and dont trust ebay, try HP.COM and look in accessories for the H6340/6315
Brando end-latch case
Actually, I ordered the Brando case that opens lengthways. It's not too bad, some small alignment issues with the openings in the leather...
I just realized that I like the JasJar without anything attached so I'm looking for cases that it's slides out of completely. Maybe I'll get a silicone skin for it so it's more tactile but after using my Brando case for awhile, I definitely want one that I can remove the JasJar from completely.
I must admit, the Brando case looks nice and feels good other than the alignment issue. Delivery was fast and service was good.
What I'm after is a nice holster style case like this one from Sena. Does anyone know if a JasJar will fit into this case??
Cynic64 said:
What I'm after is a nice holster style case like this one from Sena.
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You might find the Krusell Horizontic case suitable, but you'll need a PDA Large (code 94108 or 94113) and they're a bit of a dog to get hold of in the UK.
Brando vs Krusell
Yeah, I'm in Canada having real issues finding a distributor that carries the Krusell case.
And why am I looking for the case after buying a Brando?
Because the Brando sucks. After the second plunge to the concrete that my JasJar took because the metal screw holding it to the swivel swivelled right out (!), I've given up on the Brando.
It's crap. Your better to go with another case. Speaking from experience and one scraped up JasJar.
Re: In North America?
Dan Feeny said:
Does anybody know where I can purchase a leather case like this one in North America?
I've been looking for a case for my Universal that is the same as the Qtek case. Not a skin but a belt holster that has a magnetic clip for closing but the Universal slides out completely when taking it out of the leather case -- oriented on your belt horizontally.
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Check this out. Says they ship to the USA but not sure where they are based. I have this case myself and it is very good.
http://zxpro.com/catalog/product_17...00_Holster_style_Case_Horizontal_cat_681.html
Dave...
the best Ive seen to date is the Piel Frama... expensive, but you get what you pay for ;-)
I've notice a lot of these cases for the universal, the edges are actually expose. You drop your universal and an obvious damage will be visible. The case that came with my Exec was crap, so as the other cases from O2. i have to agree, Piel Frama is the best one i've seen and the price is pretty quite expensive. :?
I have to say, I have a Krussell Leather 'Bikini' model with swivel belt clip which does the job perfectly for me. And I've dropped my M5000 numerous times with no damage even thought there is a lot of exposed casing... only problem is the stylus and SD card shoot out when dropped, I'm on my 4th stylus @ £5 a pop and 3rd 1GB SD (Glad the SD card prices have dropped!)
Has anybody used this case? Can you comment please?
I'm trying to decide between this Krusell case and the Piel Frama one.
Frankly, I prefer the look of the Pier Frama (from web pics), but the design and funtionality of the Krusell is where my heart is tending towards (plus, it is not lacking in the looks department too, it seems).
Comments from existing users should help sort me out.
See links to both cases here:
http://www.krusell.se/product.php?productID=2380&category=51
http://www.pielframa.net/pielframa_productos.asp?id=1684
Thanks.
Krussel should be nicer than they are, but Piel Frama was also dissappointing! I've had both, and the Krussel, while still being a "quality product" annoyed the hell out of me, while the Piel Frama was simple, it was never that slim. Both cases are too bulky IMO, they offer protection, but ruin the light weight ease of function that the orbit has... Your best bet is one of the many skin cases on the market.
Thanks BigKuri. Could you then suggest a good "skin" case? I'm very particular about device protection because I sometimes drop my phone. At the price point of the Artemis Premium, I really need protection.
While we are at it, can you tell me which was bulkier of the Krusell and the Piel Frama? Was the difference significant? Could either of them sit in a trouser pocket?
Thanks once again.
I have the Krusell case, I really like it, looks great and feels really well made - I don't find it too bulky - but then I have just changed from an XDA 2i so the orbit in a krusell case is still very much smaller. I would happily get another Krusell case.
smcaul said:
I have the Krusell case, I really like it, looks great and feels really well made - I don't find it too bulky - but then I have just changed from an XDA 2i so the orbit in a krusell case is still very much smaller. I would happily get another Krusell case.
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smcaul, thanks. But, does the Krusell case fit in your trouser pocket without an ugly buldge?
Is that a Krusell in your pocket or are you happy to see me?
bdangol said:
Is that a Krusell in your pocket or are you happy to see me?
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Ha ha. Not quite what I meant bdangol, but I would like to know if it does cause so much of a bulge.
time to be constructive.
I don't like any of the leather cases because they make the phone so big. get a nice skin or hard clear plastic case. Ok they don't have pockets for memory cards and stuff but with it being such a hassle to put cards in and out of the Artemis I could not be bothered any way.
Krussell
The first thing I did when I put my Krussell case on was drop the bleedin phone, but due to the sturdy build of the case, and despite dropping everything onto a rough concrete surface; not a mark on the phone or case - so decision made, the phone stays in the Krussell till someone prises it from my cold dead hands, or I sell it all on ebay, which ever comes soonest...bulky or not - job done!
you could buy a vintage red telephone box and put a personal computer in it and a camera. if you drop that.....hell you cant even pick it up
I've got a Piel Frama and it's very nice, but I can't carry credit cards with me. Does the Krusell case take a credit card or two in the flap? The last one I had for a Hermes took 3 cards...
Yes it does, and spaces for two full sized SD cards for some reason, but handy for an adaptor at least.
I bought a Krussel case a few weeks ago and mean to do a write up now I have had it for long enough to spot the pros and cons.
I'm using this Krusell case as well, so maybe a mini-review in few words:
It makes artemis more chubby, yes. But also makes me less worried about scratching, dropping, stepping on, whatever elese, on my pda. It's nice, black&beige shining armor Another good functionality - camera lens is hidden, no worry about scratching it. And at last - if you want flip the top (to attach Krusell logo to magnet) make sure you deattach your swivel from multidapt cradle or you'll have very bad scar on top.
Hi,
I like the Krusell orbit leather case in combination with the windshield holder. A real perfect combination. Krusell is also cheaper than Piel.
Regards,
Daantje
I use the Krussell case and clip it on to my belt. I also purchased the Krussell bicycle mount and put my XDA Orbit on my handlebars running TomTom if need to calcuate a fast route or am biking somewhere new. Overall, I'm pretty pleased with it. The Krussell case I had for my XDA Exec (HTC Universal) was nowhere near as good quality as this one. My only complaint is that the fastening flap goes directly over the USB mini-port, making headset use fiddly but possible.
Krusell Case for "Orbit"
Very nice case but the Belt clip came off on mine after a few weeks, now have to use the belt loops, OK but inconvenient to remove case. My "biggest gripe" is that it's a bit "big" for my Orbit so I would shop around a bit more & let me know if you find a better fit!