Dual SIM / Multi SIM experiences? - General Accessories

Hi all,
In my previous phone (Nokia 6230) i placed a DualSIM card. Basically meaning that I could place 2 SIM cards in one phone. A menu option was created in the phone that allowed you to switch between the 2 sims without switching the phone on/off. Ideal since I have a business number and private number... I ordered this through mobile.brando.com.hk Attached you can find a description of this tool.
Now I have a Qtek 9100, (SIMlock removed thanks to a brilliant tool found on this forum) but can't get this DualSIM to work. Does anyone have experiences with a similar trick. I hate carrying 2 phones with me all the time, so i would really like to find a dualsim that also work with PDA's / Pocket PC etc. etc.
Any suggestions / remarks?
Many thanks!

I haven't looked at your attachment, but I've used a cut sim, basically the sim where you cut your full size sims into two small ones, and fit those into a "mother sim", and put that in your phone. It's worked fine on my Magician for months. Got it from ebay for about £5. I wrote my own line switcher for use with my Today plugin so I can see what operator I'm on.
Don't buy a sim cloner. If you're in Europe, you're likely to have a modern sim. They can't be cloned yet, as far as I know.
V

Hi V,
Strange because my dualsim is the same, I have cut the golden chips out, but it won't work on the wizard.... Wonder why?
Sounds cool that you can switch using the today screen, i think everybody that knows how to write programs is brilliant... Is this program posted somewhere?
Ciao!

Hello to all! The experience that I have carried out with Simclone to
have been OK! I have a super SIM with 5 numbers and can
change number/operator through the menu of STK.
Through the plugin "dktoday" I can visualize the active operator in that moment (Vodafone, TIM, etc)!
Ciao!

Maarten78: I've never tested my cut/dual sim in anything other then a wizard. But what messages are you getting? I had to carefully "thicken" the cut sim so the contacts all made good contact, but once I'd done that it worked perfectly for months.
My plugin, (VJAudioNotes, evolved into VJEphemeris) has not been released yet. It's written for my specific setup, so I couldn't release it right now for public use. But DKToday is great!
V

Thx guys,
After your comment about thickening the dualsim it seems to work... It only pushes the back cover out a little bit, but i'll find something to solve that i think...
All that i now need is a tool to display on the Today Screen which provider I'm on... Sure i'll find something, i've tried the DKToday but that crashes my phone when i start other programs like explorer or inbox... Strange!
Thx tho, Maarten

I'm wondering about something that is perhaps the opposite of what is being discussed here, which I wonder about by seeing the name "simclone".
If one has more than one GSM phone or device, yet only one GSM phone line, one has to switch the SIM card between devices, in order to switch which phone to use.
It would certainly be convenient to have a clone of the same card, to work on more than one phone. Of course, being the same phone line, both devices would not be used simultaneously. But it would be nice to be able to switch between devices, without swapping the card in and out.
I have heard that this is possible with some European carriers, to get an extra SIM card of the same line, to use in different devices. It isn't possible to do officially anywhere here in the USA however, AFAIK.
So---I'm wondering if it is possible to do this somehow unofficially. How does this simclone program work?
What is this about cutting a SIM card in two? Would this work with US T-Mobile SIM cards?

I've seen these dualsim on sale in a few places, but they stated that they don't work with 3G networks.
Would that include T-Mobile, O2 and Orange :?:

me said:
I'm wondering about something that is perhaps the opposite of what is being discussed here, which I wonder about by seeing the name "simclone".
If one has more than one GSM phone or device, yet only one GSM phone line, one has to switch the SIM card between devices, in order to switch which phone to use.
It would certainly be convenient to have a clone of the same card, to work on more than one phone. Of course, being the same phone line, both devices would not be used simultaneously. But it would be nice to be able to switch between devices, without swapping the card in and out.
I have heard that this is possible with some European carriers, to get an extra SIM card of the same line, to use in different devices. It isn't possible to do officially anywhere here in the USA however, AFAIK.
So---I'm wondering if it is possible to do this somehow unofficially. How does this simclone program work?
What is this about cutting a SIM card in two? Would this work with US T-Mobile SIM cards?
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Woah! Cutting a SIM in half? As far as my vast intellect spans, I would imagine you would end up.....with....erm.....2 useless halves of a SIM that used to work?!?! :wink:
T-Mobile in the UK offer a Multi-Sim option for business customers of 10 handsets or more - multiple SIMs for same number, voice calls routed to unit of your choice...not sure about SMS Texts though :?

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dual sim software change you sim cards on the xda2s

iv been waiting for this for ages.
http://www.wivit.com/products/downloads.shtml
its only just come out. iv been waiting so long i no longer use a dual sim :-(
Just installed this software... It works great... so much easier! A must have to all XDA users with dual sim!
DUPLICATE POST... PLEASE DELETE!
WIVIT SIM Status Switcher
I tried to install it to my IIs Rom 1.40 with Radio 1.13. I use a GHOST DUAL SIM ADAPTOR, the one where you have to cut the SIM CARD. At present, I switch SIM thru FLIGHT MODE on/off.
It will appear as installed program when I check the REMOVE PROGRAM but I could not see how to use it.
I also reset it after installation and still the same.
I also tried installing both the .exe and .cab and both don't work.
Waiting for any advice on what I am doing wrong.
You have to add it to your today screen as it's not activated by default.
Caught me out too!
Go to: START/SETTINGS/TODAY
Select ITEMS tab at the bottom
and then check the box SIM STATUS SWITCHER
Et voila!
Good programme. But for 15GBP and possible more USD I think this is an attempt at armed robbery. It is people like this that encourage software piracy. This thing is not worth more than 5GBP at most.
Meanwhile for those who havent bought their sim adapter, please look out for those ones that come with STK programme that allows you to switch SIMs.
Here in Nigeria there is one that has the STK programme and cost less than 15pounds.
Installed in my M1000 this morning it's brill as i change sims about 4 times a day to send text's. But £15 I dont know as you can do it for free with the flight mode. I will have to see when my trail peroid runs out.
Definately faster than turning flight mode on and off though.
Also good that you can see on the today screen which sim is currently active... had a few mishaps making calls on my "pay as you go" sim draining the credit etc.
Check toosten SIMname V1.3.4, much cheaper (6.95 €)...:
http://toosten.de/index.php?seite=sw&id=4
German software... I won' be able to understand it... plus I can't read how to use it.
Anyway, for some reason my trial of "Sim Status Switcher" doesn't seem to be running out! It's still on 15days (The full trial period), installed it nearly 2days ago!
A possible bug? Well if it continues I'll be saving myself £15!
Does anyone know if their are any other dual sim holders for the blue angel that don't require cutting the sim card? Don't really have to cut the work mobile sim card!
got mine here.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=43805&item=6415059221&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW
Got mine here:
\windows\stk.exe
My card is this one:
http://simemu.gsmhosting.net/6.01_Eng/
And i can have 10 different sim's in one.
and you've not had to cut the sim cards?
Just wanted to tell you all how pleased I am with Wivit dual sim program.
Works very well.Just one touch to switch sims,displays sim number in use. Have missed calls because of wrong sim in use.Finally the support answered in 2 mins.I was shocked!
I had probelems with the trial version
It wouldn't display my phone number alays shows "unavailable"
It wouldn't properly enter my SIM password
when I tried to fill in the support form on the web site, I was told that my IMEI number was incompatible.
Nice idea, and if I can get a working version, I'd probably pay the £15 as I will be needing to switch SIMs regularly & it's a nice thing to be able to easily see what phone number is currently active
[problems sorted - see below]
Got it working with a quick exchange of emails & I like it. It'll remember my SIM passwords & correctly enter them when I switch SIMs 8) , so for my £15 its worth it for ease of use
ncruz said:
Got mine here:
\windows\stk.exe
My card is this one:
http://simemu.gsmhosting.net/6.01_Eng/
And i can have 10 different sim's in one.
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its just software, or am I wrong? I cant find a link to buy a card or adapter? Or a SIM cloning thing?
Does it works on O2 XDA IIS?
I would like to know if it works with O2 XDA IIs and what this soiftware does?
The WIVIT solution is a piece of software that you use in addition to a DUAL SIM card adapter available elsewhere. I bought my dual SIM adapter on eBay for about £10. Most dual SIM adapters simply switch from SIM to SIM each time you switch the phone on, so you could simply turn flight mode on and off to switch SIMs.
I use WIVIT simply because in addition to quickly swicthing SIMS it displays the phone number of the active SIM in the Today screen, and also automatically enters my SIMs' PINs for me when I switch. I think that this is worth paying for
PS - I use the "King of Double Card" SIM adapter & have an O2 XDA2s

King of Doublecard SIM adapter

How many people on here have the king of doublecard twin sim adapter off ebay and how are you getting on with them?
Does the battery still fit ok?
Mine arrived today & I fitted it in a matter of a couple of minutes - the battery still fits, the two SIMs lie flat no problem.
I've also splashed out on the WIVIT SIM Status switching software
I have the one where you have to cut the sims, working very well. Done quite a few for friends, cant go wrong. Try it, no need to pay for a switcher, it has an stk app that does that
king of doublecard working great for me.
THANKS GUYS was looking forsomething like this, just orded mine
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just an after-tought, d u rekon there will ever be a device that will let you run 2 sim cards at the same time? YEH I KNOW whishfull thinking? lol
whats your thoughts???
abbas said:
I have the one where you have to cut the sims, working very well. Done quite a few for friends, cant go wrong. Try it, no need to pay for a switcher, it has an stk app that does that
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can you explain further ...with pics would be nice
thanks
anyone got a link to this on ebay? cant find it anywhere!
I did a post somewhere on the board showing you ebay links and methods.
I've got one without the stk app, so you have to go to flight mode off, then on, to switch, but cutting the sim cards, although risky, can be done successfully, as I've done it with an O2 contract and orange PAYG.
V
did people actually slice up their SIMs ??? :shock:
Hi guys go mine and it works atreat now , bought it from ebay
Not going to lie to you, the product is made from poor :twisted: quality but from £3. I get my money worth, and it does the job the ways i can switch are either by doing a soft rest or by puting the phone into flightmode and then back to normal phone mode, , iv addedsomepics for your benifit. :arrow:
Guys, I've got a magician and I sliced and diced my cards fine.
Had troubles getting the Magician to register the sims, but that was because of it not providing enough pressure on the back of the SIM (stick some paper into the metal sleave to correct this).
This is the ebay link for the one I bought:
Look for "UNIVERSAL DUAL SIM **SHIPPED FROM THE UK**". I cost me about £3. The card is fine, the guy was ok, but shipping was steep from London (ie P&P is hiked up, but overall can't complain).
It works, but there is another one out with an "STK" menu built in to switch cards by going into the SimToolKit program. However, it's easy enough to go to flight mode and back quickly enough to switch. I read that this one drains battery faster. No comment on that. It worked for me.
So: SLICING DOES WORK. But, do it carefully. I've posted about 10 times on this - do it carefully, ensure you remove the transparent guide sticker after the cutting, and check it in a nokia or another phone before putting it in the Magician, to convince yourself you've done the slicing correctly
That ebay guy will also "stamp cut" the cards for you for free if you post them to him.
Good luck!
No, it's not possible to have two sims working simultaneously. Best we can hope for is 2 lines per sim, like Orange's Line2 service.
There are some cards that are 16in1 card copiers etc. these don't work in the UK, and will fubar your SIM when trying to crack the encryption. Be warned
V
There was a phone once, sometime in 2000 I think, it was a benefon dual band (1800/900) that worked in europe. That phone had two SIM slots. Too bad they did not make more
http://www.cellular.co.za/phones/benefon/benefon_twin_dual_sim.htm
http://www.ohct.com/content/84/
http://www.benefon.com/russia/products/twin/faq.htm
TO vijay555
2sims working at once in a pda,, i know mate but let me keep on hoping lol
what about the data settings then?
sounds great, I am tempted to go for it, but do you have to re-enter the GPRS settings each time you switch from a sim card to another? Since say, O2 and orange don't use the same proxy servers to connect to the web via GPRS, I guess the right proxy details must be entered after each switch. Am I wrong? Can you connect to O2 mobile web using your o2 sim card, then switch to your orange sim and connect to orange world without making any change to the connections details?
Cheers
I think you will have to reenter the details each time.
However, if you're in the UK, there are cabs available on the board, or from Buymobilephones.net, with all the settings in one file.
So, switch to o2, click the cab and you're running. And likewise with Orange etc.
V
You can create all different accounts in the network section and just choose the right one you want to use. I have one SIM now, but several accounts for GPRS usage, MMS, dial-up connections etc. I just select the one I want to use in Settings-Connections-Advanced-Select Networks. The only problems that could exist are with sms and voice mail accounts, but I think these are stored in the network in combination with your sim card, so these should be ok as well.
that's great -thanks
Hi
I can buy double sim card for you all and ship it to your locations....
Send me your Model.
USD : 10
EURO : 8.14
UK : 5.55
Plus two dollar for shipping .
I will soon list it on Ebay if I get a good response.
Dhruv
I am seriously considering getting a king of double card for my SX66.
Can I still use the apps on my SIM (the ones accessed through "SIM Toolkit" or will I lose that ability once I use KODC ?
I am seriously considering getting a king of double card for my SX66.
Can I still use the apps on my SIM (the ones accessed through "SIM Toolkit" or will I lose that ability once I use KODC ?

Simore - Dual SIM

Hallo everybody.
I have a corporate sim without Internet traffic, so I would have a second private SIM card to use to surf Internet.
I was looking at Simore solution
http://www.simore.ch//en/mobile_phone_accessory/HTC/TOUCH.html
I have some doubt, because the SIM insertion space is very very tiny.
Someone has tested another solution yet? Thanks
Well, if you were to look at the installation guide video (bottom of each product page), you would see that, the dual sims method they are using is by trimming your existing sim for the job. Hence, you basically cut your existing SIM to almost 1/2 size of a normal SIM, and put it into the adapter, which is a standard SIM size, hence ought to work (with all phones, size matters). Howver, it is surprising that the smaller one cost less than the bigger version
Bought a 16th gen dualsim adapter, will review it when i have it.
I have it!
It's easy work to make your sims the size it's required to be. Just use a very sharp scissor as it will make the progress easier.
My Vodafone simcard works flawlessly, though my t-mobile simcard refuses to do anything. Might be because i cut it the wrong way / too far inside / or the t-mobile sims are just *****es.
Fitting in the slot isn't that big of a problem, getting it out it.
You need some patience to get it out, but once everything works flawlessly, you'll never need switch sims again.
Ill post images if people want to see it.
maseo said:
I have it!
It's easy work to make your sims the size it's required to be. Just use a very sharp scissor as it will make the progress easier.
My Vodafone simcard works flawlessly, though my t-mobile simcard refuses to do anything. Might be because i cut it the wrong way / too far inside / or the t-mobile sims are just *****es.
Fitting in the slot isn't that big of a problem, getting it out it.
You need some patience to get it out, but once everything works flawlessly, you'll never need switch sims again.
Ill post images if people want to see it.
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Can you give us the link where you bought it please?
www.ebay.com It cost me €10 and some patience instead of ±€15 exc. shipping fees
If you know dutch here's a shop that sells them.
http://www.dual-sim.nl/
and i have a (maybe not too elegant) solution for the issue of removing.
Cut a can in pieces, cola can, bullit can, whatever can.
then cut a piece to shape so that it firmly fits between the metal "housing/holder" and your sim cards, with a piece sticking out side of the housing next to the "stop". (see pictures for more explanation)
If you see it you'll understand what i mean.
I too have this issue... Will both of the phone numbers ring when inserted or do you have to make one the master and the other one redundant if you know what i mean? I have 2 business phone numbers - dont ask! - and i would love to have them both on my Elf.
I am sick of carrying 2 phones around and would love a all in one solution... Especially since my other phone is very close to dying at the moment!
no. you can't get both working at the same time. you'll have to switch on/off (e.g. flight mode) to switch between them. only one can work. there are, however, some phone from china that uses a dual-sim phone (a whole phone, their phone, not sim adapter) that, as according to them enable both sims to work at the same time. these china folks are gooood.
So you say that there's no problem to insert the metal case into the ELF Sim slot ? This is my major question, because I think that the tool is absolutely good, but I'm concerned about the room to insert it into an ELF sim'slot.
Thanks to all.
There is no hussle to get it in there, just a bit tricky to get it out.
I got my 16th gen dual sim working fine now!
Both my T-mobile AND Vodafone sim's work.
Switch, soft reset, and voila! My other phone number is online
maseo said:
There is no hussle to get it in there, just a bit tricky to get it out.
I got my 16th gen dual sim working fine now!
Both my T-mobile AND Vodafone sim's work.
Switch, soft reset, and voila! My other phone number is online
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anyone know if this dual sim can connect and use 3g/umts and make videcall?
dodba said:
anyone know if this dual sim can connect and use 3g/umts and make videcall?
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3G/UMTS networks should work. My manual said if needed switch to manual network and choose 3G/UMTS.
Vidcalls i wouldn't know
maseo said:
There is no hussle to get it in there, just a bit tricky to get it out.
I got my 16th gen dual sim working fine now!
Both my T-mobile AND Vodafone sim's work.
Switch, soft reset, and voila! My other phone number is online
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Hi Maseo, where did you purchase the dual sim adapter and do you think it will work on a TyTN2 ? Should it function with the DUALSIM TODAY software ?
Thanks !
i saw a simcard to which you can clone around 16 simcards, so you will have an additional menu where you can select which sim to use. you won't need to cut your sim - just a small usb-stick sized device which will read data and settings from your sim and will record it to the new simcard. you will still be able to use your original sim afterwards!
imho, this is a better solution. the only downside is that not all sims can be read.
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i saw a simcard to which you can clone around 16 simcards, so you will have an additional menu where you can select which sim to use. you won't need to cut your sim - just a small usb-stick sized device which will read data and settings from your sim and will record it to the new simcard. you will still be able to use your original sim afterwards!
imho, this is a better solution. the only downside is that not all sims can be read.
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I've heard about that. The previously mentioned dual-sim.nl has such a dual-sim adapter as well: http://www.dual-sim.nl/product_info.php/products_id/148 (the dutch version) and http://www.dual-sim.eu/product_info.php/products_id/137 for the English version.
Drawback is that only V1 simcards (the very old ones) can be used for this tool. Nonetheless, the card has a regular dual-sim function as well.
[email protected] said:
i saw a simcard to which you can clone around 16 simcards, so you will have an additional menu where you can select which sim to use. you won't need to cut your sim - just a small usb-stick sized device which will read data and settings from your sim and will record it to the new simcard. you will still be able to use your original sim afterwards!
imho, this is a better solution. the only downside is that not all sims can be read.
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what this one i just ordered hope my sims work
http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.12447
should have got this one
http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.12425
Samsung is offering a proper dual SIM phone
It has dual radio so you can have both sim cards active, with the sim kit adapter basically you can switch between sims to make calls but only one of them will be active at any one time which in many cases isnot that useful
Guys this is best thing available except Coolpad....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhQvJYxeqU0
check it all urself... HKC W1000 & HKC G1000 works wonder..
I used this one http://www.dual-sim-adapter.com/dual-sim.html with my elfin and it's ok.
I have no problem for switching between sim cards.
I insert in my elfin, the digital twincard without the cover only with tape.
I like my elfin with dual-sim.
princepavs said:
Guys this is best thing available except Coolpad....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhQvJYxeqU0
check it all urself... HKC W1000 & HKC G1000 works wonder..
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i had this phone before but i wasn't that impressed.

Has anyone experience with DUAL SIM adapter for the TP2?

Hi,
I just bought a TP2 and is very happy about it - it is far better than my old Diamond.
I'm quite tired of having to carry two phones around; my private mobile and my work mobile, so I'm looking at a Dual SIM adapter.
But I first of all want to hear Pros and Cons for using this.
When I google the subject I see a lot of old Posts dated back to 2004 ~ 2007. It's hard to find any up to date review or comments regarding this subject.
So have any of you lads experience, recommendations or even advise against this?
Thanks,
CBW
im interested too! someone pls shed some light
Personally I do carry 2 phones and I have tried dual sim adapters not for TP2 but for diamond1 and pro1 they do work but the performance is not that good.
Cons:
- You can only use 1 sim at a time. So 1 sim will show as switched off even though it is there.
- Some (most) chinese adapter only work with GSM therefore your data conection will be waaaaay SLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW.
- It takes time to switch.
Pros:
NONE that i can think of.
Advise:
Peopple just carry 2 phones working at same time both on and both working with 3G ( if your phone is capable and you need data conection)
Buy a dual sim mobile phone (samsung d880,d780) is very good for this
Chinese dual sim phones which are quite good and work perfect.
Problem with dual sim phones is that NONE of them is 3G all of them untill now are GSM. This does not work for me because one of my numbers is on Three UK so i cannot even think of a gsm phone.
Currently using TP2 on voda and SEw995 on Three. and it does the job for me.
Sorry for long post but you might find some info usefull.
I use software called magicall and I believe one of its functions can have a call forwarded to whatever number you want. It may not be exactly what you were looking for but some type of call forwarding might cut down on missing calls when you don't want to carry two phones.
or there is the acer dx900 which is a true dual sim windows mobile phone. i looked at it, but decided against it as the spec was not a huge leap from my old touch cruise. i got the tp2 instead and decided to stay with 2 phones!
Hi,
Thanks for all your posts. I got much wiser regarding this subject. The conclusion is that I will stay with my two phones for now.
Dual SIM adaptor for the TP2 doesn't work as well as either 2 phones or a dual SIM phone such as the MINI IPhone found in China. Funny thing is that a clone manufacturer can make a Dual SIM simultaneous solution. Both SIM cards work simultaneously in the phone but you don't get any advanced software features such as a real WM device >.< . If you want to use a cut-up dual SIM, they are compatible with the TP2.

Dual Sim Adapter

Just wanted to know if anyone knows how android would handle a dual sim setup on the desire and if any adapters have been tested by anyone here?
FeaRThiS said:
Just wanted to know if anyone knows how android would handle a dual sim setup on the desire and if any adapters have been tested by anyone here?
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I can't believe they stopped allowing two numbers on one sim..... my orange nokia phone back in 1991 had the possibility for two numbers on one sim... was brilliant for one for work and one for personal all through the same phone....
Takes 20 years to bring it back - LOL!
Bandare said:
I can't believe they stopped allowing two numbers on one sim..... my orange nokia phone back in 1991 had the possibility for two numbers on one sim... was brilliant for one for work and one for personal all through the same phone....
Takes 20 years to bring it back - LOL!
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haha didnt even know they had mobile back in 91
how do dual sim cards work?
It is hard to get much info on dual sim cards from googling. Anyone know if you can use both cards where they switch automatically and you receive calls from either phone number. Can you use the data service from one card while being open to receiving calls on the other card. Or do you manually switch between the cards without having to physically change cards.
Tmobile android is great in most of PDX but useless in some of the outlying burbs. It would help to have prepaid att as a backup number
From prior experience you had to reboot the phone to change SIM card
There are some here but they list them as being untested with the Desire yet.
http://www.simore.ch/en/mobile_phone_accessory/HTC/Desire.html
They do have a video on there if you dig around showing it in use in a Hero and seems pretty good. No need to reboot phone.
Phil
Using these dual sim thingies can I receive a call on either line and pickup or will I only be able to pickup the active line?
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Sent from my HTC Desire
You cannot use two sim cards simultaneously on the Desire. It has to be only one and to switch by rebooting the phone, because Desire has only one active GSM radio. The phones that operate two sim cards simultaneously have two GSM radios which operate independently from each other.

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