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E-mail and USB

Well, I am sure that some people out there might have a similar issue with their device. I have finally been able to setup my e-mail accounts to work properly. I have it turned on to connect to "The Internet" (Wi-Fi on the Dash) every 15 minutes to check for new email. However, when I have the Wi-Fi feature turned off, it won't do it; which is what I want it to do. But when I have it connected to the laptop via USB to charge, it checks for the e-mail. This is pointless as I am already receiving the e-mails on my laptop.
Is there a way that I can have it not use the USB to check for e-mails? I heard in another forum that I can set ActiveSync to "Work" which might resolve the problem. Anyone know how I can do that?
Finally, if that doesn't work, what e-mail applications do you guys recommend? I have my Outlook on my laptop setup so that I receive e-mails from both my account into a single Inbox and I have the option of choosing what account I want to send from. Something like that for the Q/Dash would be very useful.
Oh, and one more thing. Is there a way to have the Q/Dash delete the messages from the server when deleting from the handheld? I would like to be able to filter my messages when receiving them on the handheld so that I don't have to re-read them on my laptop when I get home. If there isn't a setting for it, is there a program that offers this option?
Thanks in advance...

Deleting messages from server
I'm assuming you're using POP and not IMAP to check your messages on your Dash. If so, this is what I do to delete messages on the server:
1. Download messages onto Dash (of course)
2. Delete messages on Dash
3. Empty the Deleted Items folder on Dash
4. Send/Receive messages.
This has the effect of removing the deleted messages from the server. Of course, you must also delete them on the Dash -- so I'm not sure if this is what you're looking for. Another option is to use IMAP...but my email server doesn't support it so I'm using POP.
Hope that helps!
Manzil

Move to Microsoft Exchange you will get Direct Push to your device and will not have to worry ever about e-mail synchronization issues

How would I move to Microsoft Exchange? Can you be a little more specific?

If your school or office doesn't offer it, this is for personal use -- you'll need a hosted Exchange service. There are a lot out there, google 'hosted exchange', or, take a look at the best, http://4smartphone.net
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How would I move to Microsoft Exchange? Can you be a little more specific?
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Anyone know how to change ActiveSync to "Work" instead of "The Internet"?

Change the sync directories.

Can you explain how. I'm really ignorant when it comes to these things.

Don't remember exactly, I found it in the help files, or the manual -- one or the other -- take a look.

chaznet said:
If your school or office doesn't offer it, this is for personal use -- you'll need a hosted Exchange service. There are a lot out there, google 'hosted exchange', or, take a look at the best, http://4smartphone.net
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If you want a free hosted exchange service that does push email and 1 Gb of storage will suffice, you could also try Mail2Web:
https://services.mail2web.com/signup/mail2weblive/mail2webLive_01.asp

Looks good -- just curious though, I noticed the free version is for use with the @mail2web email address format -- can you pay and use your own domain name. That's how 4smartphone.net works, but I couldn't find info on it at the mail2web site.
reydiodj said:
If you want a free hosted exchange service that does push email and 1 Gb of storage will suffice, you could also try Mail2Web:
https://services.mail2web.com/signup/mail2weblive/mail2webLive_01.asp
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- not sure, but not a bad trade-off for free, right ?

Call me part of the ingnorant bunch too, but how can I configure POP on my DASH?
I connect through Wifi all the time. When I got to configure "Email Setup" and put my info in, is says contacting server please wait and nothing happens. It tries for a few minutes and then craps out and say it could not connect? But I can browse the web, can view my mail though my web mail accounts and can view my Yahoo account.
Please some advise on this.

you are part of the ignoran bunch! ;P

Checking Yahoo email

Guys,
Cant seem to get Yahoo emails into my MDA Compact III handset.
I have gone thru the instructions, and filled in the email addy on page 1.
I am not sure what to put in for the User Name on page 2. I have tried using the email addy, and the email addy without the @yahoo.com bit. Neither work.
Obviously the password is in and saved.
On page 3 it is showing the settings as greyed out POP3 and Yahoo.
Page 4 shows Incoming mail: pop.mail.yahoo.co.uk (this was already filled out, I have tried this as a .com as well)
Outgoing mail: smtp.mail.yahoo.co.uk (this was already filled out, I have tried this as a .com as well)
Domain: this was not filled in.....
I have asked for it to connect to both 'The Internet' and 'T-mobile Internet' neither have worked.
When ever I try to 'Send and Recieve' it always just comes up with a screen saying 'Incoming E-mail Password' showing my User Name, Password and Domain. But wont do anything more.
Can anyone confirm what format a user name should be. And also if the Domain is a req firld, and what it could be.
Thanks
Matt

The user name can be anything you want displayed on your sent e-mail, I use Mike Alder in this box and it works fine, the Domain box I leave blank.
From what you describe you have let the device set itself up automatically, I configured mine manually, you can still do this, but first I would check in your e-mail application on the PC what the pop3 address is "pop.mail.yahoo.co.uk" might be the automatically loaded value - but is it correct? - I don't use Yahoo so sorry I can't be more specific - Mike

Can i add my hot mail as well?
thanks
ASZ

I think yahoo charge for their pop email service. hotmail is free to use, and even comes with all facilities for mobile devices to receive and download email.
To connect to yahoo for free via your desktop you can use a freeware application called yahooPops which runs as a pop3 server on the desktop (to which your client eg outlook talks to ), and on the back end it connects via html, translates and downloads the emails for you. Not sure it exists for pocketpc.
Other ways from the browser on the pocketpc you can use mobile.yahoo.com, or used to be a wap.yahoo.com or wap.ou.yahoo.com , which is a text only mail service.

hi all,
i have had my MDA CIII for 4months now. And i used the auto steps walkthrough to setup the yahoo. and surprisely it actully worked....that was until the other day. I dnt knw whats happened, but its like they have blocked me out or something . I am bit curious to why all of a sudden it has stopped. i know the fact you are suppose to pay for pop3 access, but then how comes its been working fine for like 4mnths.
can anyone think why it might not be working anymore?
thnx,
Snoop

Hi,
Just to update things...
I eventually managed to get yahoo email pushed to my phone by subscribing to the £12.00 a year premium yahoo account. It's worked a treat since I joined it.
Not sure why it stopped working for you, or more accurately, how it worked in the first place! But the solution is to join the premium service...for me, it's worth every penny
Matt

mtrob said:
Hi,
Just to update things...
I eventually managed to get yahoo email pushed to my phone by subscribing to the £12.00 a year premium yahoo account. It's worked a treat since I joined it.
Not sure why it stopped working for you, or more accurately, how it worked in the first place! But the solution is to join the premium service...for me, it's worth every penny
Matt
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hey matt,
ye i know i was proper shocked the 1st few months when it was working. altho it wasnt the best. bcoz my mda kept reading both normal emails and bulk mail at same time. and i get 100's of bulk mail throughtout the day. i not to bothered enough to receive yahoo mail by paying £12. I have web'n'walk from t-mobile, i recon im better off just checking it using the wap version of yahoo mail website. which is what i would recommend if yahoo isnt your primary account.
Snoop

Good point - I have the w'n'walk, but love the push email thing and since this is my main email, it's great to keep bang up to date! Its amazing how little I use email from my home computer now.
I am lucky that I get hardly any spam into my inbox (touch wood) - and the premium yahoo (aledgedly) has better spam protection...
Matt

EMOZE Push E-mail

any of you guys come across this app.. it's for getting push e-mail without an ms exchange server.
question: has anyone got a way round applying this to hotmail? i think the trick is to get outlook to accept hotmail and then use this app.
also, i'm running on vista so this isn't yet compatible.. anyone aware of a similar app - i can use with my hotmail - that'll do the trick?
thanks guys..

Free push email
Hello, I've been using mail2web.com it's free and you don't have yo use outlook.

palmbluetooth said:
Hello, I've been using mail2web.com it's free and you don't have yo use outlook.
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But this doesn't support Hotmail does it?
I'm looking for a Hotmail solution... anyone?

Just forward you emails from hotmail to mail2web ..

xaoc said:
Just forward you emails from hotmail to mail2web ..
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sorry to be a pain... don't think i can forward my hotmail messages... can i?
are you able to explain how to do this and any implications?
cheers...

I have had a quick look at this app and it seems like a good thing to me - bearing in mind I've seen other push email accounts charging £15 a month.
I have a couple of questions though, someone here might know the answer.
AIUI the email is delivered over GPRS so you need to be connected all the time.
so the first question is what sort of data gets transferred if you are connected all the time but not actually downloading anything? for example if you look at your broadband connection, even when you are not using it, small amounts of data are sent/received periodically. over the course of the day this could quite easily add up!!
next question is, although I have an O2 Orbit, I'm not actually on O2. I have a temporary T-Mobile sim card while I wait to start my new job and they give me my new phone (I'll just take the sim out and put it in my orbit). I have only seen an option to set up the configuration for O2. Can the GPRS settings for other networks be entered manually? or will I have to remove all the O2 settings that are installed after a hard reset to enable me to do this? (not something I really want to do)
In answer to the other comments about mail2web and mail2wap. I have been using this site for years and years, the only thing is you have to connect to the web and then check your mail....you might not have any but you still have to pay to connect and transfer data. Hence the push email is a better idea as you KNOW you have mail as opposed to checking in case you MIGHT have some with mail2web.

palmbluetooth said:
Hello, I've been using mail2web.com it's free and you don't have yo use outlook.
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My understanding is that the free Mail2Web Live product uses the older Always Up To Date technology. i.e. it sends you a silent text message when new email arrives which triggers Pocket Outlook to connect by POP or IMAP and get your mail.
That is not a push mail product. It is a triggered pull. Not bad for free, but one should be clear it does not include Direct Push... unless something has recently changed (please feel free to correct me)
Mail2Web also offer Personal Exchange, a paid hosted exchange service which has Direct Push. I personally did not like their service as I was unhappy with the Junk mail filtering they use, but their most basic hosted exchange service with Direct Push is extremely cheap... though not free.

so, let me just make sure that I understand this correctly....
the mail2web live product whilst not being a true push service does advise me that I have received an email by sending a silent SMS which tells my device to connect to the net and sync with the mail2web server to get my emails yes? (assuming I am somewhere where I have wifi or internet access)
that doesn't sound too bad....as basically what I am after is something that tells me I have an email when it arrives in my inbox. All I need is a text message telling me who it's from and the subject. That way I can decide whether I want to connect to the net and pick up the email or whether it's something that can wait.
is there anyone who offers a service like that? (I think hotmail do but I don't want to use hotmail)
many thanks

twisted-pixel said:
so, let me just make sure that I understand this correctly....
the mail2web live product whilst not being a true push service does advise me that I have received an email by sending a silent SMS which tells my device to connect to the net and sync with the mail2web server to get my emails yes?
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Sorry to the Mods if this is getting off-topic (realize this is an Artemis - Emoze thread... please move if appropriate!)
Goota be honest, it is a few months since I used any Mail2Web service so I can only report on my past experience. I recall they had fairly responsive/informative support by email and recommend you ask them directly.
I think Always Up To Date (AUTD) doesn't work quite the way you describe... not that it is bad at all, and it may well do what you need. Anyway, how it works is you would be installing a little application on your device which can recognize a special hidden/silent text message from the Exchange Server (you cannot see or read this message). It just tells you device that there is new email, that is all, Then your device switches on (screen goes on, comes out of suspend) and does a an email logon as if you had opened the relevant Pocket Outlook email account and hit the send/receive choice. It then logs on from scratch and retrieves your email (just headers or everything will based on your settings).
The good is this is may be free and can work on a pre-WM5 device. The downside is that it is much slower than true Direct Push and uses more battery. With Direct Push a handshake is already established with the Exchange Server and when you new mail arrives it drops into you mailbox within seconds without your device even needing to come out of standby. You just hear the audio alert of email arriving (depending on your prefered settings).
I tried the least expensive paid Exchange Service from mail2web. It was only about 2 USD a month with no contract so I am not complaining. I personally didn't like that, for me, it incorrectly marked almost every single message as Spam and I could not adjust this adequately unless I upgraded to their most expensive Exchange offering... which costs about the same as other similar services.
I am trying out the 1 and 1 Exchange service at present. OK, not fantastic. Probably we should have a thread specially for a good email round up... likely there is one already and I should probably be posting there....
HTH

What you need is WM6 with Windows Live!
I have a Wizard running WM6... just got my XDA Orbit on O2, WM5 :-(
On WM6, the MSN service is replaced with Windows Live, and that allows you to configure a hotmail account to sync up automatically or at specific intervals.
You can do it in WM5 using the MSN messageger with an ID linked to your hotmail acocunt, but you have to be logged in to messgencger for it to work.
If anyone can extract the Windows Live component form a WM6 rom....

I recently tried another application from qore.
The idea is that you get your emails forwarded to a service that texts you when you get an email (in my case T-Mobile offers this service). The application intercepts this text (you receive no notification, it's all done in the background) and triggers a send/receive on the email account specified on your unit. In my case connecting via GPRS and downloading my emails.
sadly, it seemed to interrupt random texts and since it's done in the background, you don't even know that the text has been intercepted. I was getting angry phone calls from my mates asking why I hadn't replied to texts, that I hadn't even seen!!

Push Email
1. Register a Hotmail account and use the included Microsoft Pocket MSN software it works!
2. Register an account with http://www.consilient.com it's free and allows push mail from many services...
Hope this helps..

Black 2.0 and Push mail

Hi there,
My TyTn have Black 2.0 inside and Radio 1.40.30.00
My questions:
Why at push mail configuration I can't write at domain field?
and
I'm using mail2web.com for push mail, so I had used it for a while. Yesterday I tryed to send a mail using Pocket Outlook but the mail keeps at Outbox folder, it doesn't want to send the mail, then I did some test an push mail have not been receiving nothing, only Contacts and Tasks. ActiveSync says that my phone was synced at XX:XX time without notice, BUT... mails are not synced, what can I do AND may this problem be derivated from fact that WM6 don't let me put a domain name in configuration? The domain field is gray and disabled.
Thanks in advance,
Taguapire.

taguapire said:
Hi there,
My TyTn have Black 2.0 inside and Radio 1.40.30.00
My questions:
Why at push mail configuration I can't write at domain field?
and
I'm using mail2web.com for push mail, so I had used it for a while. Yesterday I tryed to send a mail using Pocket Outlook but the mail keeps at Outbox folder, it doesn't want to send the mail, then I did some test an push mail have not been receiving nothing, only Contacts and Tasks. ActiveSync says that my phone was synced at XX:XX time without notice, BUT... mails are not synced, what can I do AND may this problem be derivated from fact that WM6 don't let me put a domain name in configuration? The domain field is gray and disabled.
Thanks in advance,
Taguapire.
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Using mail2web with no problems, domain field isnt an issue, this is in all wm6 builds.

Thanks CUSTEL,
Do you know how to do a General Resync of my account between mail2web.com and my device?.
I mean, Reset data at my device and resync all again , mails, contacts, etc. It for try to retrive all my mails again.
Regards,
Taguapire.

With mail2web you can`t send e-mails with the account, its an only incomming free service. if you want too send with mail2web you need too paid money per month.
I have mail2web too and have no problems with Black 2.0 and mail2web.

What? im using mail2web free acount and i can send frome it whit no problem and i dount pay fore it
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With mail2web you can`t send e-mails with the account, its an only incomming free service. if you want too send with mail2web you need too paid money per month.
I have mail2web too and have no problems with Black 2.0 and mail2web.
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taguapire; I suggest just re-inputing all your mail2web settings and see if that helps. Also if you head over to mail2web.com, click on support on the top right, you can go to activesync settings and download a cab to install the settings onto your device, then all you have to do is input your username and password. I'm also using the free mail2web account and have not filled in the domain and everything works flawlessly... except are you aware that their server has been going offline last week? Try to log on at the live.mail2web.com login and see if it works there.
MythDuck said:
With mail2web you can`t send e-mails with the account, its an only incomming free service. if you want too send with mail2web you need too paid money per month.
I have mail2web too and have no problems with Black 2.0 and mail2web.
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ummm... thats not true, i can send and recieve from my device with the free mail2web acount... i suggest you edit your post so you don't confuse anyone.

95% o Mail2 webs accounts arer back up, u must be the 5%...
I spoke with them after one week of no syncing, and yes, most accounts were fixed, but newer accounts had problems and were being moved manually to new servers etc etc, so u just must be one of the last ones, as I was, but they did eventually fix it.
Goodluck, it works great.

Yes. That's true. The service was unstable in the past few weeks. Looks good now for me.

Very thanks to all for your replyes.
I tryed teh manual reconfiguration and the provided CAB file, but CAB never worked. Then I found the problem. I reinstalled Palm Threaded SMS in my device then it started to mess with outlook, I just did a hard reset, reinstalled all (including Palm SMS) and it is working all fine.
BTW: I can send mails using mail2web service, is not true that it only works in 1 way.
Best regards and thank you very much to all.
Taguapire.

yup, it works fine for me too, not sure what app i have that is conflicting with it though as it seem to make my unit more unstable, will need to test further

Yep mail2web works fine here, i too also experienced issues with it in the last few weeks but it seems to be working fine now.

Best Way To Handle Email

Hi Everyone,
There has been a lot of discussion about the best way to use email on a smartphone like the Tytn. Does everyone use the IMAP protocal for best results?
Personally, I get A LOT of mail for work and I would love to find a way to get the mail I want but not have to deal with junk mail and other emails that are automated on our side workwise.
Any suggestions?

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Hi Everyone,
There has been a lot of discussion about the best way to use email on a smartphone like the Tytn. Does everyone use the IMAP protocal for best results?
Personally, I get A LOT of mail for work and I would love to find a way to get the mail I want but not have to deal with junk mail and other emails that are automated on our side workwise.
Any suggestions?
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is your work email PUSH email? or just pop3?

walshieau said:
is your work email PUSH email? or just pop3?
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Hey walshieau, Thanks for getting back to me. My email is a simple pop3 account.

ackerchez said:
Hey walshieau, Thanks for getting back to me. My email is a simple pop3 account.
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if the email server supports IMAP then use it....

Or to get full functionality, rent an exchange server mailbox from someone like 4smartphone (for about US$50 per annum) and get push email etc.

IMAP generates a lot more traffic than POP3. Just fetching a single
mailheader (send/receive when there is 1 new mail) yields over 10 kB more
traffic in IMAP. As my one subscription is limited to 10 MB/month, thus
using POP3 makes much more sense (speed could also be an argument,
altought even in GPRS it doesn't differ that much). Conseqently, I have
different entries for the same mailbox (currently: 3 IMAP, 1 POP3).... but
this also has to do with my question:
How do you guys work with different outgoing mailservers?
I have duplicated my mail account 4 times: once for each outgoing
mailserver I want to use. I then just make sure I have selected the
correct mailbox prior to starting a new message. But this hardly is an
elegant solution (I have to fetch mails for all of the accounts to keep
them up to date). As the different mailservers have no log in, I cannot
use them when not accessing via that particular provider. I have been
looking at some mechanism to hack the hosts file, but the tool
"pockethosts" isn't very well suited for this purpose (and haven't found
anything else).
Jörg

email
Hi, I'm currently using 3 email addresses on my phone plus the sync with my pc.(and home pc)
All I've come up with so far is to set all email pop/imap to only download headers, (and 2 of them only set for the last 3 days only),then I need to "select" manually what email I want to read and download them, the rest I leave for outlook to look after on my PC.
At the end of the day I finish up with a lot of "unread" emails on my phone, BUT once sync'd with pc they are all copied across anyway, just in my "outlook" folders, not my phone email accounts, if all that makes sense.
Any replies of forwards on my phone from any email includes my signature "email" that I prefer to use.
ie seperate work, personal etc
cheers
fadge

Server side filtering may be the answer for you.
http://www.modernnomads.info/wiki/index.php?page=Server+side+e-mail+filtering

gmail
I went to Gmail. Now it front-ends 4 different POP3 accounts, and with the spam protection it has it saves me from deleting a lot of crap. Only downside is that although I can read all my email on my Hermes, I can't really manage my Gmail account the way I want from the native mail client on the Hermes. No worries, I can always use the Mobile Gmail java app or go through IE to the mobile Gmail website. It's working for me...ymmv.