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Hi,
I'm new to the forum but have been watching the progress of the XDA Developers for quite some time now with great interest.
I saw something last night which I would like on my XDA. A friend of mine showed me his new Nokia 7xxx. He had a little java app called miniGPRS. Basically, it tells you which cell you're currently in and alerts you when you change cells. You can also setup events depending on leaving/entering a cell. For example, switch phone to vibrate when entering your local cinema. Or as he said, getting the phone to welcome you home with a message or WAV, just in case you forgot where you are
Does anone know how to read the cell id using eVB?
I'm also looking at mapping the Cell_ID's to locations in Ireland as O2 don't like giving this information out.
Any info would be appreciated
Regards
Keith Burke 8)
Ireland
Cell ID
Dear all,
The cell id can be found easely. i'll post a VB.NET code that enables u to find out which cell u r using and the location area code ...
I'll try to post the code as soon as possible maybe this weekend ...
Nice one Hady
Regards
Keith Burke
Ireland
Re: Cell ID
Hady said:
The cell id can be found easely. i'll post a VB.NET code that enables u to find out which cell u r using and the location area code ...
I'll try to post the code as soon as possible maybe this weekend ...
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Alright!
How? Through RIL? Talking directly to the modem? I thought the transmission of location area code wasn't standardized between providers (It's a cell-broadcast in some places).
Anyway: good news: please post as soon as you find the time!
I think I found out how:
at+creg=2 -> set gsm to report location + cellid
at+creg? -> answers "+CREG: 2, 1, 00CB, 3F5F"
where 3f5f is the hex cell id.
XDA developer Itsme said:
I think I found out how:
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YES!
Now the questions is how do we get this info without turning off TAPI and disabling the phone all the time? Is there a way to keep this reporting going, just like it gets the battery and signal status all the time?
Hady: did you use the same method, or something else?
in the ril patent, I see that 'RIL_GetRegistrationStatus' calls at+creg.
and so should 'RIL_GetCellTowerInfo' but looking at rilgsm.dll, it is
not implemented.
I have also tried to find a generic cmd-request function in the ril api,
( and rilgsm.dll - which implements all the ioctls, called by ril.dll )
but cannot find one.
XDA developer Itsme said:
I think I found out how:
at+creg=2 -> set gsm to report location + cellid
at+creg? -> answers "+CREG: 2, 1, 00CB, 3F5F"
where 3f5f is the hex cell id.
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I'm using [trying] eVB and the Comm Control to try the same but to no avail. Itsme, could you let me know how you are sending the AT commands to the modem?
Regards
Keith Burke
Ireland
XDA developer Itsme wrote:
I think I found out how:
at+creg=2 -> set gsm to report location + cellid
at+creg? -> answers "+CREG: 2, 1, 00CB, 3F5F"
where 3f5f is the hex cell id.
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What ROM would that be using please?
Thanks
You can use either wmodem + serial cable, or 'dualser' from the bootloader.
If you take a look at xdaunlock you'll see how to send AT commands to the GSM programatically
with wmodem, and the xdaunlock method you will need the qtek 3.17, or xdadev SER.
I tried it on both radio 4.06 and 4.16.
Re: Cell ID
Hady said:
Dear all,
The cell id can be found easely. i'll post a VB.NET code that enables u to find out which cell u r using and the location area code ...
I'll try to post the code as soon as possible maybe this weekend ...
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Hady,
Any sign of that vb.net code? Not really puching you, but I'd really like to get a start on my little app.
Regards
Keith Burke
Ireland
cell id
sorry guys for the delay but i had no time to publish the code.
anyways justy dop the following rather than waiting:
start TraceLogger (\windows\tracelogger)
the password is: htc
then go to G23
select MMI + event and click start
now use tracelogviewer provided by the xda devbelopers
u should get the +CSQ something.
well don't get depressed just keep looking at the output and u'll see the cell id and the location area code whenever your mobile changes cells ...
if u don't see any, just drive a few blocks and u'll notice the cell id and location area code pupping on your screen whenever your mobile uses a different cell.
i can tell you another trick to find out your current cell id, just do the following:
1- turn off your GSM
2- run TraceLogger with thye same commands as above but don't click strat
3- turn on your gsm, wait 3 seconds and then click start on TraceLogger
4- go to tracelogviewer and u'll see your current cell id with all checkings and notifications of the GSM modem ...
Best Regards guys
Fill me with updates
Hady
Lebanon
Hi,every one
I meet a problem,please help me:
I have a PDA which is installed inside a radio module, called ET180 with
pocket PC 2002 OS, I do not know how to send AT command to radio module in program, I am using EVB or EVC for coding.
If outside radio module is connect to PC by serial port, I can send command to serial port. but on ET180, I do not know how the radio module is connected.
Do you know is there a RIL(radio interface layer) function that can send command, and How? or any other way?
Thanks
XDA developer Itsme said:
I think I found out how:
at+creg=2 -> set gsm to report location + cellid
at+creg? -> answers "+CREG: 2, 1, 00CB, 3F5F"
where 3f5f is the hex cell id.
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In fact, there's one thing I don't really get.
You see sometimes you have to setup the phone (e.g. with my XDA) to listen for cell broadcast channel 050 in order to get cell/station id. How does this relate to the +CREG command?
pigeon said:
In fact, there's one thing I don't really get.
You see sometimes you have to setup the phone (e.g. with my XDA) to listen for cell broadcast channel 050 in order to get cell/station id. How does this relate to the +CREG command?
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This only works if you cellular provider sticks the cell info in a broadcast message, which some providers do. There's no standard for this. In Germany, VIAG Interkom (now O2-DE) even used to broadcast the geographical coordinates of the cell in a channel. (Using their local geocoordinate system Gauss-Krueger, I think it was called).
No clue if this still happens (I would guess not: they'd rather sell that information than give it away...)
XDA developer Peter Poelman said:
... In Germany, VIAG Interkom (now O2-DE) even used to broadcast the geographical coordinates of the cell in a channel. (Using their local geocoordinate system Gauss-Krueger, I think it was called).
No clue if this still happens (I would guess not: they'd rather sell that information than give it away...)
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Yes it still happens that they transmit the coordinates. But it is anoying that you are geting them as SMS.
:wink: Greetings,
Kaputter
Kaputter said:
Yes it still happens that they transmit the coordinates. But it is anoying that you are geting them as SMS.
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You could use tstril and get the messages from the RIL layer, I guess.
XDA developer Peter Poelman said:
This only works if you cellular provider sticks the cell info in a broadcast message, which some providers do. There's no standard for this.
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I see... so for the channel broadcast, do I have to explicitly tell tell the network to broadcast messages to me (with AT commands or something)?
Right, here's something I might ask on this thread as well then.
My friend told me with his old nokia mobile phone, you can switch it into some sort of internal debugging or engineering mode, called NetMon.
http://nokia.crazy.cz/monitore.php
The phone will give you a lot of details like signal shown in dB, a list of nearest stations, also distance from the stations/cells, etc.
Now except the signal strength which is pretty common, do these all sound like phone specific? Or it would be another non-standard information that the provider somehow provide using cell broadcast messages? I've checked roughly in the GSM AT command specs and I don't think there's anything close.
Thanks.
pigeon said:
[Nokia monitor mode...]
Now except the signal strength which is pretty common, do these all sound like phone specific? Or it would be another non-standard information that the provider somehow provide using cell broadcast messages? I've checked roughly in the GSM AT command specs and I don't think there's anything close.
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Oh my, as soon as we'd have lots of spare time, we'd know what to do. Get our own code to run on the phone while it's in operation, and start dumping the RAM of a running phone. This would probably almost immediately yield all sorts of interesting information. CellIDs, signal strengths of loudest neighbour cells. Timing advances (i.e. speed-of-light measurement of distance to current serving tower), crypto algorithm (and possibly even keys) and (with some more work...) the activity on the control channel, the paging of other phones and whatever else all goes through there. Fun, fun, fun...
Hehe...
So what you mean is, in theory any mobile phone should have information about all those things? (Sorry if I'm not really only talking about XDA here)
Hello Everybody.Has someone come up with a tweak to get rid of the 3 seconds ring delay (alsmost 2 rings) on the QtekUniversal? i tried the tweak from Tweaks2net but doesn't have any effect on the phone even after resetting it;
Could someone help me out?
T5kanking you all in advance for your valuable inputs.
Brgds, Adhoc
upgrade your radio rom to version 1.06
Ringer delay
kevin666 said:
upgrade your radio rom to version 1.06
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Hello Kevin.
Thanks but this is not enough.
Adhoc
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TO BE DELETED; SORRY FOR THIS DOUBLE MESSAGE
Re: Ringer delay
adhoc said:
kevin666 said:
upgrade your radio rom to version 1.06
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Hello Kevin.
Thanks but this is not enough.
Adhoc
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you can try radio 1.08.00 and/or search your registry for "AutoDPDMode" and set all of them to 0.
buzz
Hello Buzz,
What is AutoDPDMode for?
just upgraded to ver 1.08.00 works ok so far no delay in pick up...
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Uni_Radio_1.08.00
Re: Ringer delay
buzz_lightyear said:
adhoc said:
kevin666 said:
upgrade your radio rom to version 1.06
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Hello Kevin.
Thanks but this is not enough.
Adhoc
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you can try radio 1.08.00 and/or search your registry for "AutoDPDMode" and set all of them to 0.
buzz
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Thanks for your input, Buzz. I cannot find any entry encompassing AutoDPD in the registry. Could you please give me the registry path to the relevant section and keys?
Brgds, Adhoc
Mine always begins at the start of the second ring.
1. use the original phone, not the bloated one with video messaging (not as pretty, but saves 3.5mb on load up)
2. remove memory card readers that are present on the today screen (eg SPB and Resco)
3. delays are longer when the contacts list is longer for caller id (I have 80 not 800)
4. consider when pictures and ringtones are also assigned to the contact (just use the standard single ring tone for all contacts, no pictures)
5. if your ring tones are on your sd card, this will also slow it down (move to windows\rings)
6. i extended the ring period also to a full 30 seconds to ensure that I have enough time to get to the phone when it rings out (phone settings voice mail or contact the provider)
I cannot get it to ring at all ever on the first ring, its always at the very beginning of the second especially from sleep mode or suspended)
3s delay before first effective ringing
simon_darley said:
Mine always begins at the start of the second ring.
Mine Too
1. use the original phone, not the bloated one with video messaging (not as pretty, but saves 3.5mb on load up)
Noted
2. remove memory card readers that are present on the today screen (eg SPB and Resco)
Noted
3. delays are longer when the contacts list is longer for caller id (I have 80 not 800)
Noted
4. consider when pictures and ringtones are also assigned to the contact (just use the standard single ring tone for all contacts, no pictures)
5. if your ring tones are on your sd card, this will also slow it down (move to windows\rings)
noted, will try
6. i extended the ring period also to a full 30 seconds to ensure that I have enough time to get to the phone when it rings out (phone settings voice mail or contact the provider)
I cannot get it to ring at all ever on the first ring, its always at the very beginning of the second especially from sleep mode or suspended)
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Thanks for sharing your experience with me.
Adhoc
I found the AutoDPDMode registry key here:
HKLM\Drivers\BuiltIn\TureFFS_G31 and
HKLM\Drivers\BuiltIn\TureFFS_G32
So, what are they? I guess there are related to ExtendRom and Storage Card.....
So, why disable it? Any effects afterwards???
Cheers,
Folloow up needed on this one!!
chris_khho said:
I found the AutoDPDMode registry key here:
HKLM\Drivers\BuiltIn\TureFFS_G31 and
HKLM\Drivers\BuiltIn\TureFFS_G32
So, what are they? I guess there are related to ExtendRom and Storage Card.....
So, why disable it? Any effects afterwards???
Cheers,
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Yes, do please share your knowloedge with us regarding this matter!!
Brgds, Adhoc
simon_darley said:
1. use the original phone, not the bloated one with video messaging (not as pretty, but saves 3.5mb on load up)
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How did you get the original phone?
I tried the suggestions on the other thread where you need to change something in the registry, but that just disables the video messaging leaving a blank part on the screen. I want what you have, the original phone skin when I first turned my Universal ON after a hard reset. This original phone skin disappeared after I performed a soft reset.
From the wiki:
To set or remove the operator phone skin
The setting is at 'HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Security\Phone\Skin'
The 'Enabled' DWORD value can be set to '1' to show the operator skin or '0' to show the default skin
lbendlin said:
From the wiki:
To set or remove the operator phone skin
The setting is at 'HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Security\Phone\Skin'
The 'Enabled' DWORD value can be set to '1' to show the operator skin or '0' to show the default skin
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Thanks for the reply, I am not sure if this was the one I tried before from one of the threads. How about you? Have you tried this registry tweak?
I did it by not installing any of the extended rom except operator settings, and the bluetooth patch.
my device boots up with 31mb of RAM available if all start ups and today screens are disabled.
I dont know how to do it otherwise.
I believe the hack mentioned above or similar on how to do it is posted on WIKI.
What has all this chit chat have to do with RINGER DELAY?
cktlcmd said:
simon_darley said:
1. use the original phone, not the bloated one with video messaging (not as pretty, but saves 3.5mb on load up)
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"How did you get the original phone?
I tried the suggestions on the other thread where you need to change something in the registry, but that just disables the video messaging leaving a blank part on the screen. I want what you have, the original phone skin when I first turned my Universal ON after a hard reset. This original phone skin disappeared after I performed a soft reset.
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He guys this is not helping us a bit out of the problem. This has nothing to do with the problem some of us are facing regarding the ringer going off after a 2 to 3 sec delay, making you loose precious seconds to answer the phone before the call gets routed to your operator voice mail system.
And the suggestion that you have to alter the settings regarding the handover time for an unanswered call or the other advising to just cancel the handocer to voice mail is also not helping us.
Brgds, Adhoc.
Please focus on that one !!
Hi,
AutoDPD is Auto Deep Power Down for DOC. I think it takes longer to wake it up from this state and thus it takes longer to ring.
buzz
Radio Rom 1.08 Rings Quickly - but the person on the oher end can't hear you immediately
Rom 1.06 takes a bit longer berfore it rings but you can talk straigt away
The best enhancement if you are not going to use video or 3G speeds is to set you Band to GSM or WCDMA and NOT AUTO, in Phone Settings
Obvioulsy if you have it on WCDMA and there is no 3G coverage you wont get signal
Skillie
buzz_lightyear said:
Hi,
AutoDPD is Auto Deep Power Down for DOC. I think it takes longer to wake it up from this state and thus it takes longer to ring.
buzz
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Thanks Buzz,
So, should I disable both registry for the two storage???
And why it is orginally "1" in the default setting??? What is it actually for?
Cheers,
This is one of my biggest disappointments on the 6700's and win mobile devices in general WinMobile5 in particular.
In northern Illinois even if you are calling within your area code, you need to dial the area code.
Being as I dial most of my clients only once from my cell, I don't want them all to be added to my contacts. And since I am calling while driving a truck and looking at a piece of paper dialing on the screen. I WANT TO HAVE A PREPEND OPTION for my area code (unless I specificly dial a different one).
Most $39 phones have this option, and most palm phones have this option.
It can't be that hard to program it (can it?).
After doing much searching, and not getting much closer, it seems (per MS website http://www.microsoft.com/windowsmobile/help/pocketpc/useyourphone.mspx#settings ) there may be a phone setting that is not enabled that would enable "dialing rules".
These would be in the same area of settings as network time synch, and voicemail notification, etc..
Does anyone know of any registry edits to show *all* phone settings?
There are a few listed around here and on other forums (mostly the same 'hacks' posted over again all over the place).
I have tried all I've found, and while they have enabled what they say, this isn't included (so far).
What I'm looking for is specificly "dialing rules".
Yes, I know they are listed in network settings, but these do not affect voice dialing.
Anyone have any ideas...
Anyone else wish this worked...
Can anybody help me out here?
hacks, freeware, commercial, black magic rituals, anything???
(I have searched and searched and searched...)
My appologies in advance if it is not, but is this in the right forum??
I really thought I would find some enlightenment here.
fixed dialing
I do believe on the T-mobile they call it fixed dialing
Re: fixed dialing
Do they have this on any WM5 devices?
Do they have any WM5 devices?
flskgrd said:
I do believe on the T-mobile they call it fixed dialing
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any luck out there?
bump...
WM5 Fixed Dialing
I was going though WM5's menu on HTC TytN and saw the Fixed Dialing under the Start>Settings>Personal>Phone>More
Fixed Dialing is the last option under the More Tab if this is what your are looking for.
Cheers,
ET
emumu said:
I was going though WM5's menu on HTC TytN and saw the Fixed Dialing under the Start>Settings>Personal>Phone>More
Fixed Dialing is the last option under the More Tab if this is what your are looking for.
Cheers,
ET
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I thought about using this feature, but I could not find how to change its options (such as "number patterns"). Do anyone know how to use it ?
Not sure if this is the one:
Start > Setting > Connections > Connections > Advanced > "Dialing Rules"
Let me know if this work for you.
I believe the O2 dial wizard has this (sort of) functionality. You could use the Calling Card function to, instead of storing calling card prefixes, store the area code for the areas that you are in. Then, when you've entered the number for the person you want to call, you press the button with the Magic Wand and Handset in the Phone program, and it prefixes your number with the prefix previously defined.
You might also consider looking at the MyPrefixDial program (freeware - see http://www.freewareppc.com/communication/myprefixdial.shtml), although I think this only works with predefined contacts....
emumu said:
I was going though WM5's menu on HTC TytN and saw the Fixed Dialing under the Start>Settings>Personal>Phone>More
Fixed Dialing is the last option under the More Tab if this is what your are looking for.
Cheers,
ET
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THIS IS THE MOST LIKELY PLACE - however on the xv6700 (apache on Verizon) this option is not there! (imagine that) anyone know how to get this option to show, so I could play with it?
TIA
jackleung said:
Not sure if this is the one:
Start > Setting > Connections > Connections > Advanced > "Dialing Rules"
Let me know if this work for you.
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While it looks like it could be the right place - No this is for network connections (i.e. internet, or VPN) only not for voice dialing options.
Thanks for trying though.
CJBS said:
I believe the O2 dial wizard has this (sort of) functionality. You could use the Calling Card function to, instead of storing calling card prefixes, store the area code for the areas that you are in. Then, when you've entered the number for the person you want to call, you press the button with the Magic Wand and Handset in the Phone program, and it prefixes your number with the prefix previously defined.
You might also consider looking at the MyPrefixDial program (freeware - see http://www.freewareppc.com/communication/myprefixdial.shtml), although I think this only works with predefined contacts....
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Being as I dial most of my clients only once from my cell, I don't want them all to be added to my contacts. And you are right MyPrefixDial is for existing contacts.
I don't think the O2 dial wizzard does axactly what I need, but I would be very willing to try it out - I have done a little searching for it and haven't found a cab file for it, do you know where one is?
bump
anyone know anything new?
anyone have any new thoughts on this?
Does any other wm5 or wm6 device have anything like what I'm looking for?
I am just giving a bump, I really wish there was a way to do this...
Any clues out there?
Do any win mobile phones that you know of offer dialing rules??
well over 1000 views and no one has any solutions, or even hints at something that may help?
Wow, I thought with all the developing going on here this should be stupid simple, guess not.
Maybe, it's not that important to everyone because they don't have to dial local area codes.
You all will have to eventually you know, it may be months, or years, but eventually everyone will have to.
Ah well, thanks for looking anyway.
bump... ;-)
I wonder if someone know how to reset Call Duration Timers which are located in Settings->System->Device Information->Call Duration tab.
Any solutions for this?? Any apps to reset??
This is from a different OLD post but it worked, so share and share alike.....
a). Please make sure that you are SuperCID and you understand the importance of hard spl as this maybe a dangerious operation for you.
b). Make sure that you have SPL 1.10 Olipro (this one works for me, higher version seems not work)
c). Downloan Mtty.exe file in the attachment below and save it to your computer.
d). Open connection setting of your activesync or WMDC on your PC and disable "Allow USB connection".
e). Put your divice into Bootloader mode and connect to your PC via USB
f). Run Mtty.exe from your PC
g). Selec "USB" in port box and then click OK
h). Press Enter once or twice to let the screen dispay "USB>" or "CMD>"
i). Type "rtask b" and Enter then it should show result "0"
j). then type "ate1" and Enter then it should show result "0"
k).then type "atv1" and Enter then it should show result "OK"
l). then type "[email protected]=270f,270f" and Enter then it should show result "OK"
Restart you PPC.... you call timer should be 00.00.00
Cheers...
thanks brother, but where is attached Mtty.exe ????
ultramag69 said:
This is from a different OLD post but it worked, so share and share alike.....
a). Please make sure that you are SuperCID and you understand the importance of hard spl as this maybe a dangerious operation for you.
b). Make sure that you have SPL 1.10 Olipro (this one works for me, higher version seems not work)
c). Downloan Mtty.exe file in the attachment below and save it to your computer.
d). Open connection setting of your activesync or WMDC on your PC and disable "Allow USB connection".
e). Put your divice into Bootloader mode and connect to your PC via USB
f). Run Mtty.exe from your PC
g). Selec "USB" in port box and then click OK
h). Press Enter once or twice to let the screen dispay "USB>" or "CMD>"
i). Type "rtask b" and Enter then it should show result "0"
j). then type "ate1" and Enter then it should show result "0"
k).then type "atv1" and Enter then it should show result "OK"
l). then type "[email protected]=270f,270f" and Enter then it should show result "OK"
Restart you PPC.... you call timer should be 00.00.00
Cheers...
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lol thats a lotta BS just to reset call timers is it that important?
Sorry rexmundi, that was just a txt file I have, If you do a quick search on the forum you'll find MTTY...
And yes, it was important, It shows I have COMPLETE mastery of my Hermes.... Mwah hah hah hah!!!!
Hehe, naw complete mastery would be changing the IMEI numbers.
rexmundi said:
I wonder if someone know how to reset Call Duration Timers which are located in Settings->System->Device Information->Call Duration tab.
Any solutions for this?? Any apps to reset??
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There's a tool on here that is much simpler to use than MTTY. Just searched my files but I can't find it.
Try using google search on XDA for call timer reset tool and see what you can find.
Cheers
WB
carcomp said:
Hehe, naw complete mastery would be changing the IMEI numbers.
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You can, but I aint showing you how!
I am still of the opinion anyone wanting to reset the call timers or change the IMEI is doing it for the purposes of deception. My 2cents but as a member has already asked....is it THAT important to reset the timers for anything legit??
Just something to think about people.
carcomp, Got the instructions on how to do that too, But decency , and a healthy respect for the law prohibits my using it....
Cheers...
mrvanx said:
You can, but I aint showing you how!
I am still of the opinion anyone wanting to reset the call timers or change the IMEI is doing it for the purposes of deception.
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Mr Vanx,
Can you clarify please? Is resetting the call timers to zero illegal? If yes then I will withdraw my post above. If not then we have to assume that the OP has a legitimate interest.
I am comfortable that the IMEI thing is seriously dodgy but call timer resetting as a non legitimate activity is news to me.
Let us know so we all know where we legally stand.
Many thanks
WB
wacky.banana said:
Mr Vanx,
Can you clarify please? Is resetting the call timers to zero illegal? If yes then I will withdraw my post above. If not then we have to assume that the OP has a legitimate interest.
I am comfortable that the IMEI thing is seriously dodgy but call timer resetting as a non legitimate activity is news to me.
Let us know so we all know where we legally stand.
Many thanks
WB
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Its not illegal to reset the call timers, but personally I see no reason to do it unless somebody is being deceived into buying a supposedly unused device?! I just dont see what other reason there would be to reset the timers thats all.
wacky.banana said:
Mr Vanx,
Can you clarify please? Is resetting the call timers to zero illegal? If yes then I will withdraw my post above. If not then we have to assume that the OP has a legitimate interest.
I am comfortable that the IMEI thing is seriously dodgy but call timer resetting as a non legitimate activity is news to me.
Let us know so we all know where we legally stand.
Many thanks
WB
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Yes it will be illegal if you reset your call timer and list the phone in ebay as a brand new phone. But if you dont do that, then its all good!
mrvanx said:
Its not illegal to reset the call timers, but personally I see no reason to do it unless somebody is being deceived into buying a supposedly unused device?! I just dont see what other reason there would be to reset the timers thats all.
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Thanks for the clarification. I was just beginning to be concerned that I might have given advice that could be construed as assisting an illegal activity!
I can see that zeroing the timers and eg putting a phone on ebay as a new phone when it is not could be an issue. However if I bought an item 2nd hand from someone in good faith and installed the rom of my choice, then I would want to zero the counters from the point at which I owned the device simply so I could have a true record of the calls I was responsible for making when ownership changed hands. For the record I have never had to use this tool.
A lot depends on the honesty of individuals; however almost anything that man has invented can be abused or put to a use that is negative, destructive or illegal. Take the abuse of drugs in our society as an example of what I mean.....
WB
What about if a person buys a phone off of Ebay or a friend and wants to start clean? Whould he be in the right to start with a 0 call timer since all previous calls were not made by him?
mrvanx said:
Its not illegal to reset the call timers, but personally I see no reason to do it unless somebody is being deceived into buying a supposedly unused device?! I just dont see what other reason there would be to reset the timers thats all.
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so you are saying that when I asked about call duration timers reset I want to sell my Hermes to someone as brand new?????????
i think moderators are inteligent people but one of moderators in this forum are stupidly judging people without knowing them
mrvanx you are stupid thinking this way !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
rexmundi said:
so you are saying that when I asked about call duration timers reset I want to sell my Hermes to someone as brand new?????????
i think moderators are inteligent people but one of moderators in this forum are stupidly judging people without knowing them
mrvanx you are stupid thinking this way !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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So what is the reason to reset the call timer?
For the reason we try to do anything here - to see if we can....
rexmundi said:
so you are saying that when I asked about call duration timers reset I want to sell my Hermes to someone as brand new?????????
i think moderators are inteligent people but one of moderators in this forum are stupidly judging people without knowing them
mrvanx you are stupid thinking this way !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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well well, thats a 2 day ban sir, suggest you look at the posting guidelines in my sig.
Resurrecting this thread just to say that i am taking as a personal jab, i have no hesitation AT ALL in taking this further. Its very easy to NOT have a pop at a member/moderator but you seem incapable of it.
And the correct grammer is :
i think moderators are inteligent people but one of moderators in this forum is stupidly judging people without knowing them
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See I can be childish aswell!!
If you bother to search for this topic before you will see that in numerous occasions I have voiced my concerns about this subject, in no way was it a jab at the OP. Congrats, you have been made an example of.
Hi all,
Since I installed wm 6.5 (Rom Officiel), the option to answer phone automatically doesn't work anymore .
i'm sorry of that, because i'm a biker and it's very useful.
A hard reset (as asked by the service support) did not change anything.
they ask me now to return the device which seems to be a hardware problem no ?
Are you involved of that problem? any idea to solve it without sending it?
Thanks and Best regards from France
Humm !
I'm surprised that this fonction doesn't interest more people; because after quick investigation, i'm not alone with that problem using wm 6.5 .
Is that happen only with the french version?
I have the same problem with diamond 2 and wm 6.5. Did you find any solution?
Johnnyaw said:
Hi all,
Since I installed wm 6.5 (Rom Officiel), the option to answer phone automatically doesn't work anymore .
i'm sorry of that, because i'm a biker and it's very useful.
A hard reset (as asked by the service support) did not change anything.
they ask me now to return the device which seems to be a hardware problem no ?
Are you involved of that problem? any idea to solve it without sending it?
Thanks and Best regards from France
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Same problem here. Updated using UK Vodafone upgrade and now Auto Pickup cannot be selected.
Can anyone help as this is a big problem. If you have to touch your phone to answer a call while you are driving and you get caught, you are in big trouble.
Could someone check their registry
HKCU\ControlPanel\AutoPickUp
and tell us exactly what is in there. Mine is empty and I think this might be part of the problem.
Thanks
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Could someone check their registry
HKCU\ControlPanel\AutoPickUp
and tell us exactly what is in there. Mine is empty and I think this might be part of the problem.
Thanks
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Mines is empty too.
tjhawkes said:
Could someone check their registry
HKCU\ControlPanel\AutoPickUp
and tell us exactly what is in there. Mine is empty and I think this might be part of the problem.
Thanks
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I just checked and mine is blank too...on a US-model T-mobile TP2 with the stock 6.1 ROM. I've never used the function before though, so I can't really say whether it is/was available to me...I'm not even sure where the option to use that is
You guys might want to check out the app in THIS thread, it supposedly makes it easy to access the auto-answer, so it might (...or might not) serve as a work-around for you
EDIT: I just found the toggle for auto-answer in the phone settings...and even though I have that registry entry blank like the rest of you, I still have the option of chosing auto-answer in the phone settings.
Sorry if you did this but can you go back to the setting and make sure it stayed "ticked". What happens on mine is that I tick the box and it shows a tick but if you come out of setup then go back in the tick has gone.
tjhawkes said:
Sorry if you did this but can you go back to the setting and make sure it stayed "ticked". What happens on mine is that I tick the box and it shows a tick but if you come out of setup then go back in the tick has gone.
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sirphunkee,
Any chance you could check that your Tick stays Ticked.
Thanks
t
tjhawkes said:
sirphunkee,
Any chance you could check that your Tick stays Ticked.
Thanks
t
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Hey man, sorry about that, I just missed it when you asked that the first time
I just now double-checked, and yes, the tick mark does persist in the Automatic Pickup box in phone settings, even through a soft-reset.
But...even when the tick mark is there, no value appears in the registry entry you mentioned and...it still doesn't work I tried it with the auto-answer interval set at 0, 1, and 2 seconds, and it never answered my test calls.
So...6.1 doesn't work any better, 6.5 is just more honest with you by not letting the setting appear like it's working
p.s. feel free to PM me if you ever need feedback from me and haven't heard anything in a day or two...probably means it just got lost in the shuffle on my end.
sirphunkee said:
Hey man, sorry about that, I just missed it when you asked that the first time
I just now double-checked, and yes, the tick mark does persist in the Automatic Pickup box in phone settings, even through a soft-reset.
But...even when the tick mark is there, no value appears in the registry entry you mentioned and...it still doesn't work I tried it with the auto-answer interval set at 0, 1, and 2 seconds, and it never answered my test calls.
So...6.1 doesn't work any better, 6.5 is just more honest with you by not letting the setting appear like it's working
p.s. feel free to PM me if you ever need feedback from me and haven't heard anything in a day or two...probably means it just got lost in the shuffle on my end.
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No problems, thanks for the information.
t