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Hi,
I'm planning to make a car kit for my xda2 using a second-hand car kit from another phone, a spare cradle and some creative thinking.
My aim is to make an installed car kit with the following features:
1) Charge the phone from the car battery.
2) All phone and pda audio to come from the car speakers, not the pda speaker.
3) Easy to put in and take out of cradle.
4) Able to use voice activated software via installed car mic.
I will document what I do (with photo's) here and try to put together a step-by-step guide, but I could use some help.
Has anyone tried this with any amount of success? I have seen the connector pin diagrams etc on the wiki site. Can anyone add to these?
Just as imporantly, has anyone tried this and fried their xda2??? :?
Please post your advice here and I'll let you know how I go.
Cheers,
Hooligan
Have tried it with a nokia cark91 but with no succes because the nokia cark91 uses the FBUS to activate certain features.
Didn't have enough knowledge of both to write a program which could emulate the FBUS protocol.
Will be watching your progress. Very interesting!
Success.
Mark
T-mobile can't build one, O2 can't build one, Catcomm can't build one, even i can't build one :roll: :mrgreen:
Why do you think you would succeed ?
Serious : All the info needed is on this site, and/or in my head. Theoreticaly it should work, but it doesn't.... Biggest problem is that the XDA2/MDA2 ONLY gives audio trough the bottom connector if you're in Call, so forget voicedialing or TomTom over the carkitspeaker.
Easyest solution is to build a carkit with you can connect to the headset connection.
Connectors ?
Hello
I seek the diagram of the connector 22 pins for XDA II
je fabrique un Kit main libre avec GPS
MERCI MERCI
Hi Alain,
Look here:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/wiki/Connectors
Hi Jpiek,
thanks for the words of encouragement! :wink:
I'm studying the circuit diagrams for the nokia car kit I have obtained. I'll let you know how my experiments go...I have to agree, I think that the earphone jack may be the best way to go....
Hooligan
I spent many hours doing this with an XDA I, and got something sort of working but not what I really wanted. Here are some notes...
The XDA I has a horrible ground loop problem on both the input and output. I don't know if the II has the same problem, but I imagine so.
The output is very low, requiring a pre-amp. And because of the above, it had to be ground-isolated, which adds a lot of complexity (for someone like me who is MANY years past high school electronics class...).
Ericsson and Nokia car kits require some proprietary signalling in order to function, so they were useless as a starting base.
The built-in mic is actually quite usable in-car, producing a slightly hollow and distant sound but not horribly so. It has quite effective echo cancellation.
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OK, looks like zapro has beaten me to the punch.
He has updated the connectors page in the wiki with a car kit wiring diagram and has started a new post - "Finally !!! DIY car-handsfree for XDA"
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=11063
I'll keep experimenting as I don't think he has all of the audio output through the car stereo yet.
Well done Zapro!
hooligan said:
OK, looks like zapro has beaten me to the punch.
He has updated the connectors page in the wiki with a car kit wiring diagram and has started a new post - "Finally !!! DIY car-handsfree for XDA"
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=11063
I'll keep experimenting as I don't think he has all of the audio output through the car stereo yet.
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Ofcourse not, his solution allready worked over here, but it wasn't good enough for me. For phone i use a BT headset. I want all audio !!
(Yes, i'm still trying..)
Yes it DOES work !!
Hehe, my homemade carkit DOES indeed work flawlessly !
I Have an extra box besides the electronics shown in the diagram, a box with a amplifier and some relays. when the phone rings, i press a button, that powers the amplifier and the relays, disconnecting the speakers from my car-radio and over to the little amplifier. i promised you some pictures here a day ago, but i don't think it's nice enough to show off yet. i need to make a new case for the amplifier and relays. the one i am using now is just a box from the junkcase.
I Will be back soon !
// Per
My XDA carkit was relativly easy ;
I opened the Tomtom cable on the XDA side and wired pin 2, 3 and 4 to a general Car-amplifier...
I used the internal mic, with a brodit holder: perfect!
i dont know if anyone ahs noticed this before. I had a xda 1 and the o2 car kit. i fitted a switch on the radio mute, and wired the kit,s speaker jacks into my stereo,s aux input. this allowed me to listen to wmp, or any other app. Then i bought an xda2 and everything went wrong. so i decided to try sort it out.
My plan was to modify the car kit to accept the phone, and cut out a notch so that i could use the headset, and cut it up and wire it direct to my stereo,s aux input.
however, after i did the cradle mods, i had the phone sitting in, testing it. At this stage my kit was still wired as per my xda1. The phone works fine, including mute. Then, i tried wmp. As reported , there was no sound. I then plugged in my headset, whilst the xda was in the cradle, and IT WORKED!. Sound from the wmp went out via the car kit and into my aux input! I Bought a new2.5 jack, with no wires, and i just insert it, before cradling the phone and i have the exact same functionality as the xda1!...its really kool, as my Haicom gps works fine too. I havent tested Fonix, ie., does the mic work before u activate the phone, but im hopeful.
Now, my final problem is the charging issue, and id appreciate advice. My proposal is: to purchase an appropiate universal lapto car power adaptor,
To purchase a 9 pin lead, which will sit between the carkit and the cradle lead. Then all i have to do is patch the power adaptor into the 9 pin lead, deleting the original power. Will this work, and what size power adaptor will i need [v/curent], and whats the wiring mod?........id love to know if the headphone jack trick works on all kits/.....it may be posssible to buy and modify a jack plug so that it fits in wiyhout modifing the car kit....
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re the charging issue
ok..ive read all posts concerning this issue and there appears to be some confusion....can the original xda car kit supply enough current to satisfy an xda11 and wired haicom gps. Some posts imply that there is a wiring difference which makes the unit appear to be charging whilst there not, whilst some posts say its because the original unit can only supply 1 amp.......can someone please advise?
I gues you have to get the 2.5mm plug out when you leave the car in order to use the mic/speaker?
charging issue
ive just tried the unit in the car, both with and without the haicom connected. both times it said it was charging, but both times the battery level actually fell.....this indicates that there is a wiring difference between XDA2, in the charging cct. funny thing though is that the xda2 charged using a cheap cigarette lighter type charging lead....can anyone explain this?
must be the charging circuit. I found that even a 400mA charger is enough to charge the Himalaya.
My XDA II Car kit has a jack plug on the bottom, but if I use that no sound comes out. I'm assuming this takes audio out from the 22pin connector at the bottom of the XDA II.
When you say you've plugged a 2.5mm jack into your XDA you mean the socket on the actual XDA itself right? And that enables audio through the 22pin connector or does it just output audio through the jack?
My problem is now that I'm going to have to rip my (very expensive when I bought it) XDA II Car kit to pieces to put a 2.5mm jack into the bottom of the phone when it's in the car kit!
Is there nothing at all that anyone's got to force the XDA out of in-car mode or anything or is that completely hard-wired?
God this is annoying! Why is there always something wrong, even with the coolest gadget in the world!
I have the same problem.
It used to work with rom 1.03 (as I remember) but after an upgrade, the sound from MDA2 except phone call went through the build-in speaker.
HTC knows this problem, but dont do anything about it.
A conspiracy agains carkit mod'ing.
This issue is known since approx last april.
It MUST be the carkit:
XDA2/iMate carkit only supplies in-call phone audio via the carkit speaker
MDAII/Qtek2020/Yeti carkit supplies all audio via the carkit speaker (dis-advantage: It continuously mutes the radio when ie using TomTom, but that can be fixed by using an alternative radio-mute circuit/switch)
Both carkits only use the 22-pin bottom connector of the Himalaya to accomplish this.
Until now (afaik) no one has succeeded in finding a solution for this.
I wish I bought my carkit 2 month later, at that time the MDAII carkit was sold for approx 170 euros (compared to the 140 for the XDA2 carkit). The extra functionality is really worth the extra 30 euro.
Alternative radio-mute circuit/switch
@edsub
edsub said:
(dis-advantage: It continuously mutes the radio when ie using TomTom, but that can be fixed by using an alternative radio-mute circuit/switch)
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A few weeks ago I bought the MDAII-carkit and am still preparing to install it in my car. I will use it with Alturion navigation software, but expect that this will create the same proble as TomTom (constantly muting the radio).
Could you elaborate on the "alternative radio-mute circuit/switch". I.e. how to create it/where to buy it?
Thanks in advance, regards
Albondigas
You can buy an audio-mute box.
You place it between your car-speaker leads and connect the carkit audio out to it (mono or stereo).
As soon as the mute-box detects a signal on the carkit audio out, it switches the car-speaker from radio to carkit.
It seems to work quite well, but since it is based on detecting a signal an then switching, i can imaginge you lose frist 1 or 2 seconds of the carkit-out.
No idea how that works out with TomTom . . . .
XDA II Car Kit
eayuwna said:
Is there nothing at all that anyone's got to force the XDA out of in-car mode or anything or is that completely hard-wired?
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Check pin 19 of the plug wiring. This is the pin used to tell the XDA II it is in the car. When using the XDA II out of the car, in the Sync cradle etc... this pin is tied to ground.
I am about to experiment with making a car kit... If I have success with the audio, I will let you all know!
Recrem.
Audio mute with MDAII-Carkit
@edsub
Thanks, eDsuB, I get the principle and will look around where I could get the audio mute box.
And now I understand why Mocki in the german forum of ppc-welt inserted a one second 63 Hz tone at the beginning of the TomTom-audio files:
http://www.ppc-welt.info/community/showthread.php?t=40190&page=2&pp=50 (in german)
It would be embarrassing to miss the first three words of the message "in three kilometers turn right" :lol: .
How do you think about another solution on this forum and that is disconnecting pin 9 (orange/white) from the connector on the MDAII Carkit II. Apparantly that would also solve the problem with the permament mute of TomTom? See thread (it looks like you've been there also) http://www.ppc-welt.info/community/showthread.php?t=47131&page=1&pp=28 (in german).
Thanks very much,
Albondigas
I went in that forum a couple of times (especially when xda-developers was down), but since I have an XDAII/iMate carkit my problem is to get all audio thru the bottom connector . . . .
And even Mocki doenst have an answer . . .
Just bought a car...
Added a little Brodit powered cradle for the Universal + GPS device.
Now I want to have it talk sexily to me through the car speakers... how might I go about doing this?
I've not really seen a car kit for the Jaguar XJ6, but I suppose this would be a good bet?
Thanks!
Ferg.
Hey, I've got a '97 Jag XJ, I had to make my carkit from separate bits. Don't have the Universal but Imate Jam- principle is the same I guess
Check out my post here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=36123&highlight=
Charges my device as well as outputting all sound to car speakers.
Nice one sh,
Mine's a 97 too. Bloody nice beast.
I'll check out your instructions, although am I right in thinking this doesn't have a microphone or anything? I'm new to car kits etc so excuse my ignorance, but does this not hinder the thing a bit?
What does this setup NOT allow you to do?
Thanks again,
Ferg.
Well because I was too tight to buy a full carkit- I made my own (yes I do own the Jag- matter of principle for me!)
Well I've haven't spoken much about the audio side of things in that post... but all I've got is a 3.5mm to RCA cable going into the back of my car stereo.
There is also a 2.5 to 3.5mm adapter to accept the connection on the JAM. Now, you can get these adapters with built-in mics:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/2-5mm-to-3-5m...714269100QQcategoryZ14419QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
I don't need it because I have my personal bluetooth kit when in car. So thats the only thing 'missing' if you like- although I've setup it up so I can change this adapter for any type that has 3.5mm on one end.
Send me a link to the holder that you've got- I take it doesn't have an audio out on it?
i made up my own too for the charmer, dont own a jag and havent wired it into the stereo but have stashed a set of "ipod" type speakers under the dash instead.
not wanting to play audio but just wanting to have handsfree use of phone and amplified audio from sat nav.
not running it through the sterao also means the missus and kids are happy with the radio/cd playing and i still get to hear the satnav guidance.
i bought a couple of incar mics and soldered the whole lot up onto a butchered wired headset (the one that came with the charmer)
details http://www.modaco.com/hardwired-incar-handsfree-the-diy-way-t240297.html
although i still havent got round to putting up pics yet
If you want to know where I got this idea, you should see this one first:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=314731#314731
I found this way of mounting my Wallaby last year, very effective and cheap and secure. So, last weekend, I tried to mount my Universal the same way. Its kind of hard, as my Universal metal case has different size of its belt clip mounting pin. So I have to put another belt clip to my car. I was finally moving the Cruise Control button to the right and use that middle spot that was occupied by the Cruise Control before to put on the Universal belt clip. And now the Universal can be mounted exactly in the middle. I do not have the audio connector yet, but I have located one that look exactly like my Wallaby one, but with 3.5mm plug.
Hope this will give some idea to some of you. Btw, I could mount my Universal with its silicon case on, but taking the padding inside the metal case out. So my metal case now primarily used as a mounting place in my car now.
Nice set up. Do you know yet of the PQTAA ( http://pc-mobile.net/pqtaa.htm ) will allow you to run audio from a call through your car speakers while still using the mic?
yes, this is exactly the one i'm getting. exactly the same as shown in my picture above, but with 3.5 mm plug. my old one, with 2.5 mm plug, works perfectly with my wallaby for few years now.
lie_ui said:
yes, this is exactly the one i'm getting. exactly the same as shown in my picture above, but with 3.5 mm plug. my old one, with 2.5 mm plug, works perfectly with my wallaby for few years now.
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I'm just still worried that the mic will not be enabled on the Universal... Please do let me know if you've tested this on a Universal.
I just received this email back from the manufacturer (Pc-Mobile) of that headset (it regards to it working with the Universal):
"If it has a 3.5mm audio jack then PTAMS/PQTAA COULD be compatible but there
is no guarantee as the every manufacturer may use different pin configurations."
I'm wondering if I should just roll the dice and place an order?
galt said:
I just received this email back from the manufacturer (Pc-Mobile) of that headset (it regards to it working with the Universal):
"If it has a 3.5mm audio jack then PTAMS/PQTAA COULD be compatible but there
is no guarantee as the every manufacturer may use different pin configurations."
I'm wondering if I should just roll the dice and place an order?
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I like to add that, unlike phones with 2.5mm audio jacks, which may have different pin configurations from different manufacturers, phones/pda with 3.5mm audio jacks are likely to use the same configuration.
It is because the jack is to be used for ALL headphones with 3.5mm plug so they must be the same.
The only variable is the ground/mic configuration.
All current PDAs with a 3.5mm audio jack with mic (Ipaq/Loox/Axim) use the same PTAMS/PQTAA ok.
I will be getting the PQTAA from PC-Mobile and will report the compatibility with the Universal once I have and test it out.
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I will be getting the PQTAA from PC-Mobile and will report the compatibility with the Universal once I have and test it out.
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Thanks Lie_ui. I also have ordered this, hope it works out...
PQTAA works with Universal!
Good news. I received the PQTAA from PC-Mobile and it works with the Universal! I have tested all functions with my Universal:
- Stereo audio output is carried perfectly to the car stereo, no noise whatsoever.
- Microphone is working great, my voice can be heard clearly.
- The call receive button on the unit is working ok too to receive/pick up incoming call.
This is a great audio adapter (in addition to the fact its a handsfree unit). I find its a lot better way to connect the Universal to the car audio system rather than using other method like BT.
As most car mounting solutions do not include audio adapter to connect the Universal to the car audio system, the PQTAA is a perfect solution.
If you have a cassete player, you can combine it with the casette adapter. If you have an AUX input in your car stereo, thats the best.
Thanks for the info Lei. I also received mine today, haven't been able to really test it out, but it seems nice and it does function as required. Finally!
I finally got a chance to try mine out. The PQTAA works FANTASTICALLY with the Universal!
I tried it in my car, with air conditioning running full blast - the call came in, I was able to answer and hang up using the button on the adaptor. The call was perfectly clear over the car speakers, even with the volume turned up very high the caller reported zero echo from their own voice. They were able to hear me very well even with the mic unit dangling from the rear view mirror (not clipped to my shirt).
Excellent work by PC-Mobile! http://www.pc-mobile.net/pqtaa.htm
can someone tell me step by step ob how to connect universal to car audio ( cd player) what stuff do i need ?
cheers for any info
cudo
cudo said:
can someone tell me step by step ob how to connect universal to car audio ( cd player) what stuff do i need ?
cheers for any info
cudo
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If youve got a cassette player then buy one of those audio cassettes (Sony does a great one) that includes a cable to plug into the headphone socket on the universal.
Then just start your audio player on the universal and the sound is routed through to your car player.
Hope thats what you meant
Matt
thanks for the idea but I have got only cd player..and it has no aux input.is there any chance to onnect my uni to car audio?
cheers, cudo
Here are some options to connect Uni to a car stereo:
1. If the car stereo has AUX input, this is the best.
Get the adapter we discussed above (PQTAA) and connect it from your Uni then link it to your car AUX input. If you connect it directly from the Uni to your AUX input without that adapter, you only get audio routed to the car audio system, but you will not be able to accept phone calls as a normal audio plug will disable the Uni internal microphone.
2. No AUX input, but has casette player, get the casette adapter. I used this in the past and it worked well, too, until I decided to get an MP3 car stereo and then I made sure I got the one with AUX input.
You will also need to the PQTAA adapter.
3. No AUX input, no cassette, only CD....
You better have FM radio, as this is your last option.
Get a FM transmitter, plus the PQTAA adapter. You will feed the audio through the FM to your car audio system. I used this method before and I did not really like it as its kind of troublesome, you have to turn on the FM transmitter, then select the macthing frequency in your car radio, etc. And in my city, its very hard to find unoccupied frequency, thus I always got bad interference with other radio stations.
4. If you do not like connected/cabled mode, then go with Bluetooth.
You car audio must have an AUX input, though. Get a Bluetooth adapter like this one:
http://www.usglobalsat.com/item.asp?itemid=98
Then connect it to the car AUX input. This way, you do not need to plug something to your Uni and can keep it inside your case/purse.
5. Finally, none works for you, and you would like to upgrade your car audio system, then get the new one that has the Bluetooth. This is the cleanest and best solution I guess.
I was looking at this one:
http://www.parrot.biz/products/index.php?id=rhythmnblue
This one even can sync your Contacts and it has a dial pad in the car audio system. Very nice.
Hope this shines you up.
hi Guys,
Yeah been installing plenty of Parrot kits (LS3200, CK3100 and LS3400 with GPS) for the Exec and Mini s etc.
The parrot kits also have a microphone and audio mute, you may need an SOT audio lead depending on your cars configuration, but these kits are simply superb, call quality is fantastic, syncs all your contacts, and the LS range have colour screens with Voice recognition on all.
I can supply these and install them in the UK if your interested, other than that google or ask a local installer nearer to your location,
Ill be Fitting an Exec with a LS3200 soon, ill try and take some images and upload if anyone interested.....basically with the parrot kit, you get the best of both worlds, a nokia style car kit at last for phone based PDAs like the Xda Exec,
Hope that helps,
Bryson
Is there no way to control the mic from being turned off when you plug in normal headphones? This is what I posted in another thread I created:
Hello everyone.
I have a great pair of wired headphones that I love to use for watching movies and listening to mp3's... noise canceling, enhanced bass, extended range, the works... =)
The only problem though is that when I get an incoming call on gsm, there is no way to listen to the call from the headphones and still use the built-in mic of the universal. I'm forced to unplug the headphones and just use the jasjar's built-in speakers like a regular phone. This is especially horrible on the bus, train, etc.
Funny thing is if I use skype on the jasjar, I can hear out of my great headphones and still talk through the built-in mic... i recorded a few voice notes using the built-in mic while having the headphones plugged in the universal...
clearly, from this... the function is available?
but how do I do this using the gsm phone?
I suppose you may want os details and such... I'm using the newest official i-mate jasjar rom
Thanks in advance!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=278604
I can confirm that your findings are indeed true. Other than the phone, other applications that use the microphone (such as Voice Recorder) works regardless there is a normal headphone plugged in or not.
I guess you are right, there should be a way to tweak the OS to enable the microphone all times.
In a meanwhile, the adapter we discussed above would solve your problem too. (It has a microphone and a normal 3.5mm headphone socket).
With so many full car kits plus the new style visor mounted kits I was looking for some advice.
From What I see I have 4 Choices
1) Fully hardwired Kit (expensive)
2) visor mounted or cigarette socket plug and go style kits.(are they any good)
3) Headset style (not a big fan of these as keep falling out)
4) Lose my licence (not a good Idea)
any advice would be great guys let me know if you can
You can buy a hardwire kit for about £35 for a second hand Nokia C7K, wiring it is easy, it is only 3 or 4 wires. Less if your car has a car kit plug on the loom, but you will need the adaptor kit for that.
They won't charge the phone though, or provide a cradle.
Don't buy a Nokia C1K though, they don't work with the P3300.
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You can buy a hardwire kit for about £35 for a second hand Nokia C7K, wiring it is easy, it is only 3 or 4 wires. Less if your car has a car kit plug on the loom, but you will need the adaptor kit for that.
They won't charge the phone though, or provide a cradle.
Don't buy a Nokia C1K though, they don't work with the P3300.
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cant find such a product as C7K
can you help further
My bad! CK7W
http://www.nokia.co.uk/A4222096
i use a Parrot CK3100LCD it's a verry good carkit and even a child can install it just 2 iso connectors in your radio and that's it. Your sound is then over the car speakers.
Siemens CRK600
I use a Siemens wired car kit - three wires (+ve, igintion and ground) and its done. Speaker with it is excellent, so no need to wire into the car stereo. Has a nice LCD display, althjough I needed jetwaremobile.com's bluetooth extension and phonebook swap to get full functionality.
I agree the parrot ck3100 is brilliant with the xda orbit, i have one in my astra and i have a xda orbit. Going cheap on fleebay
I bought the Aldi BT car radio a while ago and it works perfectly. £70 iirc
Pair the phone once with it and turn BT on when I get in the car, incoming calls come through the loudspeakers and there is a mic in the head unit
Just upgraded
Just got a Sony MEX-BT2500 stereo with built in bluetooth - £90 on ebay, works like a dream... well recommended.
That means that my Siemens wired kit is going spare - I'm going to put it on ebay soon, but if anyone wants to contect me first... just a three wire conenct, and I've got an ISO through connector to connect at the back of the car stereo, so you don't need to cut any car wires, then stick the display on your dash, route the microphone to near your sunvisor and leave the little but very clear speaker inthe footwell or under the glovebox...
I read that the mic isn't that good with the MEX-BT2500. What are your experiences?
We've got Nokia CK7W's in our cars at work, and myself and other orbit users have no problems with them at all.
iirc we paid about £120 per car for the kit and installation, but from what I've seen they are very easy to fit yourselves
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I read that the mic isn't that good with the MEX-BT2500. What are your experiences?
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It's as good as any car kit I've ever had - and that included professionally fitted kits and factory fitted car kits.
Because the mic's in the front of the unit rathe rthan up by the top of the windscreen, you get far less issues at speed with wind noise etc too. Highly recommended.
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Don't buy a Nokia C1K though, they don't work with the P3300.
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Both my wife's and my carhave a Nokia CK-1W fitted, Orbit works perfectly with both?????
So your quote is slightly wrong, my CK-1W only cost £12 on eBay,
StewD said:
Both my wife's and my carhave a Nokia CK-1W fitted, Orbit works perfectly with both?????
So your quote is slightly wrong, my CK-1W only cost £12 on eBay,
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Never worked with mine, it would pair but then not work. Perhaps it was the original O2 Bluetooth stack that was the issue. I still have it, I can wire it up and see. Well if I can be bothered I will!
I use a £59 Parrott CK3000 with my HTC Himalaya and my new P3300 in my Audi A3 and its great. Connected it into the back of my radio with just three (Tel+ Tel- & Tel Mute) connections and it mutes the radio and plays through the speakers just like a factory fitted unit.
When I used the same unit in my previous Alfa 156, you could even adjust the call volume using the steering wheel audio controls (but my Audi doesn't have that feature).
For the A3 and other vehicles with "multi-function steering wheels", Parrott even do adapters so that you can use the steering wheel buttins to answer & close a call, rather than having to have a separate non-standard button showing on the dash....
In my Saab 9-3, I use a Parrot MK-6100 car kit which also supports A2DP/AVRCP.
Works well with my Artemis - even the stereo bluetooth audio isn't bad (no skipping/stopping, but the audio quality isn't quite up to my car radio's standard).
It was very easy to fit, and it just worked as soon as I paired up.
I found mine at Amazon for about GBP110 including postage.
Hello,
Is there someone who has any experience or advice about the Seecode Vossor Plus Bluetooth Carkit? I'm thinking to buy this one.
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Parrot is excellent
The Parrot CK3000 is nice if you don't need a screen. It's very stealth - just a small controller with "talk" and "end" buttons and a volume dial in the middle. (I have an Audi A4 and don't have space for a screen) Very easy to install (like the CK3100) because it uses the ISO connectors. Even if you car doesn't use ISO standard, you can always splice the wires or buy adapers if you don't want to splice. The sound quality is excellent, the functions are very basic but very reliable (however, I've only used the kit as a headset - never added additional voice tags and all that). It just works and it works well. You can get them from Amazon.com for less than $100 USD. Even less in eruos.
Got the P3300 and I can't fault it. The quality of the system is excellent, sound and mic work very well and the system is easy to use. Easy to wire in and I have my steering wheel controls connected.
I have seen some with problems, the soldering for the display has been a little thin on some models but nothing I couldn't fix.
I have noticed that sometimes when I answer with the phone button (on the phone) the parrot goes into mute, my advice would be either auto answer or pick up using the parrot. Could just be my setup...
"Parrot is one of the best systems I have come across"