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4GB SD Card Unreadable

My SanDisk 4GB Extreme 3 SD Card used to work on my PC's SD card reader. The SD card reader read it as a 4GB SD card.
I tried to use it on the Universal and it asked me to format the card to read it. I did not format it. Next I tried to plug it into the SD card reader on the Universal again and again and it would ask me to format it. I formatted it and it read! But sadly only as 1961MB or 2GB card. Next i took it out and tried it back on my PC's SD card reader. Now my PC would ask to format it.... omg. So i tried again and it still asked me to format it. This time the PC tried to format it but it failed. My PC is unable to read the SD card. I used an external SD Card reader and it failed to read my 4GB SD card too!.. omg Universal Destroyed my 4GB SD Card ;( .... and it only reads as 2GB on my Universal.
Can anyone help me get out of this miserable situation.

nuclear said:
My SanDisk 4GB Extreme 3 SD Card used to work on my PC's SD card reader. The SD card reader read it as a 4GB SD card.
I tried to use it on the Universal and it asked me to format the card to read it. I did not format it. Next I tried to plug it into the SD card reader on the Universal again and again and it would ask me to format it. I formatted it and it read! But sadly only as 1961MB or 2GB card. Next i took it out and tried it back on my PC's SD card reader. Now my PC would ask to format it.... omg. So i tried again and it still asked me to format it. This time the PC tried to format it but it failed. My PC is unable to read the SD card. I used an external SD Card reader and it failed to read my 4GB SD card too!.. omg Universal Destroyed my 4GB SD Card ;( .... and it only reads as 2GB on my Universal.
Can anyone help me get out of this miserable situation.
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Go to Sandisk Site - I belive there is a program to repair it - I have the same problem before year with 2GB Sandisk card with accesible only 986MB and corect it - I just don't remeber what was this utility but I'm sure there is a UTILITY

agisofttm said:
Go to Sandisk Site - I belive there is a program to repair it - I have the same problem before year with 2GB Sandisk card with accesible only 986MB and corect it - I just don't remeber what was this utility but I'm sure there is a UTILITY
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Alright just before I go looking out for this SanDisk fix utility I would like tell you that SanDisk hasn't officially marketed the 4GB Extreme III cards in North America and Asian Mainland. It comes from Japan so I wonder if i will be even able to recieve support on it or a fix utility. How big is this fix utility? Can you upload it here if you find one for a 4GB extreme III card or post the link please? How the hell does it suddenly become 2GB....?_?
On some SD card readers it wont read too! And on all other places it reads as 2GB and wont go above 2GB. I thought maybe its just a reading issue but it actually reformatted the firmware to 2GB >.< .... I am sueing either microsoft or sandisk on this, like I think enough is enough and both companies have reached their limit on troubling me...always i get imperfect stuff.
I am really stressed out after spending so much money and still having technical difficulties with these things.

RE
I believe using QTEK latest ROM with A2DP has no problem working with 4GB SD card

FOSA said:
I believe using QTEK latest ROM with A2DP has no problem working with 4GB SD card
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I have to agree with FOSA. My 4GB Card works just fine. Plus, it worked fine even when I was testing the different AKU 3 ROMs.

nuclear said:
Alright just before I go looking out for this SanDisk fix utility I would like tell you that SanDisk hasn't officially marketed the 4GB Extreme III cards in North America and Asian Mainland. It comes from Japan so I wonder if i will be even able to recieve support on it or a fix utility. How big is this fix utility? Can you upload it here if you find one for a 4GB extreme III card or post the link please? How the hell does it suddenly become 2GB....?_?
On some SD card readers it wont read too! And on all other places it reads as 2GB and wont go above 2GB. I thought maybe its just a reading issue but it actually reformatted the firmware to 2GB >.< .... I am sueing either microsoft or sandisk on this, like I think enough is enough and both companies have reached their limit on troubling me...always i get imperfect stuff.
I am really stressed out after spending so much money and still having technical difficulties with these things.
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Try Panasonic SD Formatter...

.dredd. said:
Try Panasonic SD Formatter...
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Oh no... Both the cards aren't being read by the PC's SD card reader anymore. The PC's SD Card reader will always ask me to format the card but when I click to format it wont, just freezes.
From all my SD card readers only the Universals SD card reader works, only shows 2GB and I cannot load more than 2GB of data on the SD card. I can access the SD card from my PC using the Universal as an SD card reader. My USB card reader wont read it either. All my other 2GB mini-SD cards work flawlessly.
Maybe I should try another ROM and see if the SD card can be formatted back to 4GB and 8GB respectively. I was using a ROM that I was making myself while this incident happened. I think that ROM will need more fixing. For now I will roll back to a stable ROM. Some people suggest the Qtek Official ROM and some say that all the AKU 3 ROM's here work to read the 4GB cards well.
I just got to keep testing eh? Testing and learning how these SD cards function in which ROM?
Panasonic SD card formatter wont work because the PC cant read the SD cards, its like one of those corrupt damaged CD's that you cant even access.

nuclear said:
Oh no... Both the cards aren't being read by the PC's SD card reader anymore. The PC's SD Card reader will always ask me to format the card but when I click to format it wont, just freezes.
From all my SD card readers only the Universals SD card reader works, only shows 2GB and I cannot load more than 2GB of data on the SD card. I can access the SD card from my PC using the Universal as an SD card reader. My USB card reader wont read it either. All my other 2GB mini-SD cards work flawlessly.
Maybe I should try another ROM and see if the SD card can be formatted back to 4GB and 8GB respectively. I was using a ROM that I was making myself while this incident happened. I think that ROM will need more fixing. For now I will roll back to a stable ROM. Some people suggest the Qtek Official ROM and some say that all the AKU 3 ROM's here work to read the 4GB cards well.
I just got to keep testing eh? Testing and learning how these SD cards function in which ROM?
Panasonic SD card formatter wont work because the PC cant read the SD cards, its like one of those corrupt damaged CD's that you cant even access.
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if you have digital camera.. put your SD card on digital camera and format it .. im doing many times and my SD card back to normal
cheers
indra9110

indra9110 said:
if you have digital camera.. put your SD card on digital camera and format it .. im doing many times and my SD card back to normal
cheers
indra9110
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Thanks so much indra. It worked. Both my 8GB and 4GB cards are back to life! The format also returned them to their original 4GB and 8GB state

If you bought the card in high street store, return it.
nuclear said:
My SanDisk 4GB Extreme 3 SD Card used to work on my PC's SD card reader. The SD card reader read it as a 4GB SD card.
I tried to use it on the Universal and it asked me to format the card to read it. I did not format it. Next I tried to plug it into the SD card reader on the Universal again and again and it would ask me to format it. I formatted it and it read! But sadly only as 1961MB or 2GB card. Next i took it out and tried it back on my PC's SD card reader. Now my PC would ask to format it.... omg. So i tried again and it still asked me to format it. This time the PC tried to format it but it failed. My PC is unable to read the SD card. I used an external SD Card reader and it failed to read my 4GB SD card too!.. omg Universal Destroyed my 4GB SD Card ;( .... and it only reads as 2GB on my Universal.
Can anyone help me get out of this miserable situation.
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thanks for that
indra9110 said:
if you have digital camera.. put your SD card on digital camera and format it .. im doing many times and my SD card back to normal
cheers
indra9110
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boi said:
If you bought the card in high street store, return it.
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Which Card the 4GB or the 8GB one?

nuclear said:
Which Card the 4GB or the 8GB one?
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whichever one/ones your having problems with and brought from a high street store lol

daddy k said:
whichever one/ones your having problems with and brought from a high street store lol
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I am still having the problem where the Pocket PC reformats my 4GB card into a 2GB card and SanDisk is unable to find a solution to it.
Also while using other ROM's my 4GB card is not read? It seems the hardware is compatible to read 4GB cards except the ROM is not designed to do so. For example Helmi's AKU 3.5 ROM cannot read my Sandisk Extreme III 4GB. Now SanDisk also doesn't believe that i have that card because they never marketed it, but they dont know that I got it from their factory! Now that remains a secret how i got it. Its really fast and amazingly I gave it to a few people.
Luckily i found a ROM that reads my 4GB card except the 4GB card is always reformatted to 2GB... Its very confusing because even my PC now reads it only as 2GB....It was working fine about 2 weeks ago as 4GB.
If I can get any help to make this card back to a 4GB please! Thank you for your help ^^

From what I've read some weeks ago on the Panasonic homepage was, that SD-cards following the "old" SD-standard are designed for up to 2GB capacity. Everything above that is non-standard and will likely make problems. (Although there are some exceptions as you can read here on this forum.)
To come around these problems, they invented the SDHC-standard for sizes from 4GB and more. Sad thing is, that the reading device has to support this standard. The Universal doesn't afaik.
You can even read that on Wikipedia:
Some manufacturers have produced 4GB SD cards that do not conform to the SD2.0/SDHC and are incompatible with existing SD devices, and are also incompatible with SDHC devices.
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So if you have problems, stick to 2GB cards. They work flawlessly.
P.S.: I first bought one of those 4GB-SD-cards and it was recognized by my Universal as 4GB but after copying approx. 5-6MB on it, it suddenly stopped working. The Universal always asked to format this thing. The PC showed sizes of about 930MB, even the Panasonic SD Formatter wasn't able to do anything about it. So I returned it and got 2x 2GB cards. No problems at all.

mbirth said:
From what I've read some weeks ago on the Panasonic homepage was, that SD-cards following the "old" SD-standard are designed for up to 2GB capacity. Everything above that is non-standard and will likely make problems. (Although there are some exceptions as you can read here on this forum.)
To come around these problems, they invented the SDHC-standard for sizes from 4GB and more. Sad thing is, that the reading device has to support this standard. The Universal doesn't afaik.
You can even read that on Wikipedia:
So if you have problems, stick to 2GB cards. They work flawlessly.
P.S.: I first bought one of those 4GB-SD-cards and it was recognized by my Universal as 4GB but after copying approx. 5-6MB on it, it suddenly stopped working. The Universal always asked to format this thing. The PC showed sizes of about 930MB, even the Panasonic SD Formatter wasn't able to do anything about it. So I returned it and got 2x 2GB cards. No problems at all.
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Except I cant return it because I got it from Japan and it will be coming soon in retail markets by 2-5 months. I agree the 2GB cards work flawlessly. Except I would like larger storage.
I am using CNET Flash format to reformat the Card except it wont go back to being 4GB. It seems the firmware of the card has been overwritten

nuclear said:
example Helmi's AKU 3.5 ROM cannot read my Sandisk Extreme III 4GB. Now SanDisk also doesn't believe that i have that card because they never marketed it, but they dont know that I got it from their factory! Now that remains a secret how i got it. Its really fast and amazingly I gave it to a few people.^
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are u for real?
listen if u are for real then please do a screen grab of your pda reading your big cards, and a quick picture using ur pda and post up that pic of the magic sandisk ultra 4gb that even they the manafacturers say isnt around, yet you say you got it from their factory but they are not releasing it for quite a few months, trust me memcard manafacturers do not need tht much time to manafacture stocks before they supply them so me thinks you are a little deluded

daddy k said:
are u for real?
listen if u are for real then please do a screen grab of your pda reading your big cards, and a quick picture using ur pda and post up that pic of the magic sandisk ultra 4gb that even they the manafacturers say isnt around, yet you say you got it from their factory but they are not releasing it for quite a few months, trust me memcard manafacturers do not need tht much time to manafacture stocks before they supply them so me thinks you are a little deluded
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No, he's just a liar. Nothing more.

nuclear said:
It seems the firmware of the card has been overwritten
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There is no a firmware inside the cards that might be overwritten using end-user tools. In your case most probably the card was re-partitioned. Read about MBR and partition tables for details. Quite easy to fix.

Lurker0 said:
There is no a firmware inside the cards that might be overwritten using end-user tools. In your case most probably the card was re-partitioned. Read about MBR and partition tables for details. Quite easy to fix.
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Thank you Lurker. I will look up MBR and partition tables. I am really lost on this MBR and partition tables. If you can help me out and just walk me through on how to fix my card i will be really happy. Or any links will be helpful too.
Lurker... would this do? http://www.ptdd.com/mbr.htm

SDHC driver in Crossbow?

I'm curious if Crossbow has a new SDHC driver? The previous SD driver was based on v1.1.
Has anyone tried a SDHC card with Crossbow to see if it works?

Universal doesn't have SDHC hardware, so driver software should not help.
Eelco

i have checked with a sdhc CARD... IT DOESNT WORK

kingdomraj said:
i have checked with a sdhc CARD... IT DOESNT WORK
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I thought that SDHC cards were the same hardware as regular SD cards, just formatted to FAT32. Is that not the case? I thought by virtue of the fact that many of us are happily using 4Gb SD cards (formatted with FAT32), that SDHC cards would work fine?
Devices that wouldn't handle FAT32, and therefore restricted to a 2Gb maximum are officially "SD", and those that can handle FAT32 will be labelled up "SDHC" to avoid confusion by non-techies.
My mate has a Casio camera that would always shut down as soon as you put a 4Gb SD card in it - he formatted it using FAT16 to 2Gb, and it recognised the card, but couldn't use it. He formatted the card with the camera, and it worked fine, but only with a capacity of 1Gb. I use this as an example of what I expect SD/SDHC compatibility to be like - simply an indication of the file system, and capacity limits that a device can handle.
Cheers,
Steve.

StevePritchard said:
I thought that SDHC cards were the same hardware as regular SD cards, just formatted to FAT32. Is that not the case? I thought by virtue of the fact that many of us are happily using 4Gb SD cards (formatted with FAT32), that SDHC cards would work fine?
Devices that wouldn't handle FAT32, and therefore restricted to a 2Gb maximum are officially "SD", and those that can handle FAT32 will be labelled up "SDHC" to avoid confusion by non-techies.
My mate has a Casio camera that would always shut down as soon as you put a 4Gb SD card in it - he formatted it using FAT16 to 2Gb, and it recognised the card, but couldn't use it. He formatted the card with the camera, and it worked fine, but only with a capacity of 1Gb. I use this as an example of what I expect SD/SDHC compatibility to be like - simply an indication of the file system, and capacity limits that a device can handle.
Cheers,
Steve.
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i agree with you... but i tried a card... it refuses to work with exec

kingdomraj,
Which ROM version do you have? Is your ROM Crossbow?

Difference between SDHC and SD its the same as between CD and DVD - U can use SD in SDHC HW but not SDHC in SD HW. Not all can be changed via drivers!

kimcng said:
kingdomraj,
Which ROM version do you have? Is your ROM Crossbow?
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yes.... why ??

Memory card problems

I really need some help guys. I recently bought a 2gig memory card for my Dash running the Kavana 6.1 update. I later on inserted the card into one of my other phones and formatted it. However, when I view the storage card from Windows Mobile Device Manager, I no longer have my 1 point something gig of memory, but a paltry 966 MBs. Anyone know what happened and if there is a solution? I tried inserting the card into my memory slots using the adapters but no luck, as it never shows up..

wthe device manager might have corrupted the card because the dash is only supposed to have 1gig. cards is my guess and if thats the case u just have to reformatt on a card reader and not use with mobile manager...

wreiad said:
I really need some help guys. I recently bought a 2gig memory card for my Dash running the Kavana 6.1 update. I later on inserted the card into one of my other phones and formatted it. However, when I view the storage card from Windows Mobile Device Manager, I no longer have my 1 point something gig of memory, but a paltry 966 MBs. Anyone know what happened and if there is a solution? I tried inserting the card into my memory slots using the adapters but no luck, as it never shows up..
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try formatting your card in your phone you can use resco explorer to format it

The Dash (out of the box) can take up to 2gb card. Even after changing the ROM it would take a 2gb card. What phone did you use to format the card? if the phone you used to format it could not take a 2gb card it would format it exactly to what you are saying, basically change it to a 1gb card.
Format it in your computer use fat16, do a full format. Hopefully you will be able to erase the new file table that says 1gb and restore it to a 2gb.

rickwyatt said:
try formatting your card in your phone you can use resco explorer to format it
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It says to unlock it.

Bupahs said:
The Dash (out of the box) can take up to 2gb card. Even after changing the ROM it would take a 2gb card. What phone did you use to format the card? if the phone you used to format it could not take a 2gb card it would format it exactly to what you are saying, basically change it to a 1gb card.
Format it in your computer use fat16, do a full format. Hopefully you will be able to erase the new file table that says 1gb and restore it to a 2gb.
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How? I don't get that option...

you have fat32? try fat16.normaly have to show you the word (fat). if you windows dont give you this kind of fat , have to do in your phone.
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How? I don't get that option...
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wreiad said:
How? I don't get that option...
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Not on Vista you wont. You'll need a XP system... the only other option is to set your view types in windows exploere to show system and hidden files on the storage card then delete them. Then use your dash to format the card. Its a long shot but it might work. If not.. looks like you are in the market for a new 2gb card.

also remember windows never shows the full size of a card or any other form of storage. remember 1 gig is actually 1024 megs. and never shows the reserved system space.

Amsam 810

My Amsam will only read a 2gb card.It is supposed to take up to 8gb.
The AMsam website used to have a patch that was available for download but it does not have it now.
DOes anyone have the patch AMSAM_SDHC_DRIVE_SUPPORT_8G.CAB

I managed to get the driver.
So if anyone wants it send me a PM and il email it to you.
THe only problem now is that it wont work with a 4Gb card.
Although i might be using the wrong card.
The card that came with the phone was a Transcend Micro SD 2GB
The card i am trying to use is a Kingston Micro SDHC 4GB
I have formatted the card to FAT32 and it still wont work.SO my questions are
(1)Are these different cards and thats why they wont work
(2)Am i formatting the file incorrectly ?
Thank You in Advance

be happy
install this cab and enjoy with your 4 or 8 or 16 GB

exFat issue

Do you anybody have problem with exFat SD card like that?
Im using exFat for my 32gb SD, my gallery not refreshing for new downloaded videos or images. So i cant see them. Even sometimes not helping restarting phone.
But when i take photo to SD i can see that image in my gallery instantly.
Was Fat32 everytings works great.
Using H815 6.0 Stock v20g eur xx.

FAT32 is the recommended file system for SD and SDHC cards ...
mythbrk said:
Do you anybody have problem with exFat SD card like that?
Im using exFat for my 32gb SD, my gallery not refreshing for new downloaded videos or images. So i cant see them. Even sometimes not helping restarting phone.
But when i take photo to SD i can see that image in my gallery instantly.
Was Fat32 everytings works great.
Using H815 6.0 Stock v20g eur xx.
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FAT32 is the recommended file system for SD and SDHC cards ... a 32gb SD card is an SDHC card.
exFAT is primarily for SDXC cards ... (i.e., greater than 32 GB).
Both FAT32 and exFAT are Microsoft designs.
I suspect your issue is directly related to LINUX and the inherent formatting of your internal storage where I presume you are downloading your videos/images to before moving them to your SD card.
If your videos/images individually are not exceeding 4 GB there is no need to go to exFAT on an SDHC card but because the LG G4 supports cards greater than 32gb, i.e., supports exFAT, you will be able to see them when moved to your card.
S.

sdembiske said:
FAT32 is the recommended file system for SD and SDHC cards ... a 32gb SD card is an SDHC card.
exFAT is primarily for SDXC cards ... (i.e., greater than 32 GB).
Both FAT32 and exFAT are Microsoft designs.
I suspect your issue is directly related to LINUX and the inherent formatting of your internal storage where I presume you are downloading your videos/images to before moving them to your SD card.
If your videos/images individually are not exceeding 4 GB there is no need to go to exFAT on an SDHC card but because the LG G4 supports cards greater than 32gb, i.e., supports exFAT, you will be able to see them when moved to your card.
S.
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Yes i know. thats why i formatted to exFat, sometimes i need 4gb+ files.
I just directly download to SD card with phone.
Im thinking its about LG's software. deleting files is so slow (2gb files 10sec+) and not refreshing in gallery.
I was readed somewhere fat32 have (log daily feature) or something like that for changed files and accuracy files idk properly but exFat not have this maybe its about that.

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mythbrk said:
Yes i know. thats why i formatted to exFat, sometimes i need 4gb+ files.
I just directly download to SD card with phone.
Im thinking its about LG's software. deleting files is so slow (2gb files 10sec+) and not refreshing in gallery.
I was readed somewhere fat32 have (log daily feature) or something like that for changed files and accuracy files idk properly but exFat not have this maybe its about that.
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Before coming to that conclusion ... i.e., thinking it's about LG's software, you would have to test out an SDXC card and see if you're having the same issue. Then you might be able to make a case to LG if everything else is set-up properly.
When you state you are downloading to your SD card directly with your phone, how exactly did you set it up ... ?
S.

sdembiske said:
Before coming to that conclusion ... i.e., thinking it's about LG's software, you would have to test out an SDXC card and see if you're having the same issue. Then you might be able to make a case to LG if everything else is set-up properly.
When you state you are downloading to your SD card directly with your phone, how exactly did you set it up ... ?
S.
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Im using opera and i can set download location many apps can do this.
Oh. You right i thought SDHC can handle exFat but have problem with compatibility. But you can use anyway if you need.

You're not using adaptable storage ...
mythbrk said:
Im using opera and i can set download location many apps can do this.
Oh. You right i thought SDHC can handle exFat but have problem with compatibility. But you can use anyway if you need.
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You're not using adoptable storage ... for the set-up of your sd card are you with android 6.0, Marshmallow? Needs to be set to portable I believe ... irrespective of what you've set in Opera.
S.

sdembiske said:
You're not using adoptable storage ... for the set-up of your sd card are you with android 6.0, Marshmallow? Needs to be set to portable I believe ... irrespective of what you've set in Opera.
S.
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I dont understand what you exactly mean.
I just download directly to SD card external storage. Not internal phone's own
im not using sd card as adaptable storage.
And yes 6.0 Marshmallow.

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mythbrk said:
I dont understand what you exactly mean.
I just download directly to SD card external storage. Not internal phone's own
im not using sd card as adaptable storage.
And yes 6.0 Marshmallow.
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Then borrow or purchase an ... SDXC card and see if the issue recurs when formatted as exFAT.
You could try re-formatting your card with a different program and see if it helps but It may be your phone is having trouble reconciling a 32gb card to exFAT.
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