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WM6 AKA Crossbow for Smartphone soon!

http://msmobiles.com/news.php/5846.html on MSmobiles to see a quick review of the power of smartphone crossbow WM6 (or 5.2?)!
MS understands the power of keyboard-enabled smartphones and WM6 will be the next step.
An usable calculator, office with document editing, windows live, enhanced messenger, graphic (they enable the power of new smartphone graphic resolution 320x240 or 240x320).
I believe this will be winning next smartphone philosopy: isn't Windows Mobile with something less anymore, is a strong alternative to bridge between phones an PDA and more for less, much more than a simple phone for less money than a PDA! (hey man, early in the morning I'm a good CopyWriter too)

crud, wrong thread.

Anyone now when its coming availeble for smartphone?

I dont get it?????????????????
How can a wizard which has a slower processor already have a leaked version of wm6 but the dash (htc Ecalibur) faster processor does not whats the deal!!!

Wizard and dash both have 200 MHz OMAP 850 processor's. the version that is leaked is a pocket Pc addition, there hasnt been a smartphone addition leaked yet.

bkeaver said:
Wizard and dash both have 200 MHz OMAP 850 processor's. the version that is leaked is a pocket Pc addition, there hasnt been a smartphone addition leaked yet.
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but we all know the dash runs faster than the mda.......i own both i would know.

I have the Dash (running the S620 FW) and the K-Jam running Crossbow.
The K-Jam runs faster than the Dash now. I can't imagine what Crossbow will do for the Dash...
-Mc

but we all know the dash runs faster than the mda.......i own both i would know.
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I own both aswell and yes it does promarily due to the OS on the dash not being as labor intensive as the full blown pocket pc version

for the ones that have wm6 on there wizrd why not extract the schemes and homescreens and share them with us to put on the dash since it is the same size screen!

leoiden said:
for the ones that have wm6 on there wizrd why not extract the schemes and homescreens and share them with us to put on the dash since it is the same size screen!
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thats like saying you can take the icons and wallpaper from windows vista, put it on xp and its suddenly vista....

leoiden said:
for the ones that have wm6 on there wizrd why not extract the schemes and homescreens and share them with us to put on the dash since it is the same size screen!
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Homescreens are done totally different on the smartphone then they are on PocketPC.
Also, the title of this thread is misleading and should be changed. It implies that you have a version and you plan on releasing it soon.

DanITman said:
Also, the title of this thread is misleading and should be changed. It implies that you have a version and you plan on releasing it soon.
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No it doesn't.

swivel said:
No it doesn't.
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yes it does

i have to agree, i thought it meant somebody had it or was going to release it soon, not that its possible and could happen

I KNOW OF SOMEONE THAT DID POST A COMMENT ON ANOTHER FORUM OF TESTING THE WM6 ROM ON EXCALIBUR,he or it claimed it would be leaked soon but that was posted in december, maybe if we all pm that member bug him a little he might give in to tell us where or when we can find the leaked version that will work with excalibur! anyways here is the posted comment from that forum
Newbie
Join Date: Nov 2006
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I have an RUU update for the Dash with WM6, we're releasing it to a few partners to do closed beta testing. Expect the ROM update to be leaked very soon.
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heres the link to site
leoiden said:
I KNOW OF SOMEONE THAT DID POST A COMMENT ON ANOTHER FORUM OF TESTING THE WM6 ROM ON EXCALIBUR,he or it claimed it would be leaked soon but that was posted in december, maybe if we all pm that member bug him a little he might give in to tell us where or when we can find the leaked version that will work with excalibur! anyways here is the posted comment from that forum
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I have an RUU update for the Dash with WM6, we're releasing it to a few partners to do closed beta testing. Expect the ROM update to be leaked very soon.
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http://forum.brighthand.com/showthread.php?t=231848

SO hang on, will Crossbow be compatible with the Dash? Are you sure you'll be able to download Crossbow onto the Dash?

.PoNeH said:
SO hang on, will Crossbow be compatible with the Dash? Are you sure you'll be able to download Crossbow onto the Dash?
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As far as being compaitable it should be able to handle it. I can't see why not. Will the release be official? That's hard to tell. That would involve T-Mobile or HTC buying an upgrade for the Dash from MS and then releasing it to the public.

I bet that the Cavalier, which is the replacement of the dash scheduled to be released 2Q 2007 will have WM6

bkeaver said:
I bet that the Cavalier, which is the replacement of the dash scheduled to be released 2Q 2007 will have WM6
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I think that has already been confirmed. But the fate of the Caviler is still up in the aire
http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2007/01/16/unboxing-htc-cavalier/

Devices with Windows Mobile 6 ?

Have there any devices running Windows Mobile 6 been announced?
If not, when will be most likely the time when we see devices with Windows Mobile 6? How likely will it be that Operators like T-Mobile will supply an WM6 upgrade for the HTC Universal ?

bitbonk said:
Have there any devices running Windows Mobile 6 been announced?
If not, when will be most likely the time when we see devices with Windows Mobile 6? How likely will it be that Operators like T-Mobile will supply an WM6 upgrade for the HTC Universal ?
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No
When Microsoft are ready to release it.
Very unlikely.

1. No.
2. Early 2008.
3. No they wont - they are cheap!

nuclear said:
3. No they wont - they are cheap!
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that goes to all the Official dudes
all that matters to them is sales
not more than that....
Customer satisfaction 0
except for ETEN...thoz guys strive to be good...

corleno said:
that goes to all the Official dudes
all that matters to them is sales
not more than that....
Customer satisfaction 0
except for ETEN...thoz guys strive to be good...
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AGREED! Eten are truly good. Although due to insufficient funding they gonna die soon

bitbonk said:
Have there any devices running Windows Mobile 6 been announced?
If not, when will be most likely the time when we see devices with Windows Mobile 6? How likely will it be that Operators like T-Mobile will supply an WM6 upgrade for the HTC Universal ?
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Someone in Singapore offering a upgrade for S50$. Definitely the crossbow is out to RTM and many have it. Until know don’t know any device which is equipped with Crossbow. Therefore to post it officially is a issue :0)
Well most of us will need to wait until the heat is away and see the post of those

Bulldog said:
Someone in Singapore offering a upgrade for S50$. Definitely the crossbow is out to RTM and many have it. Until know don’t know any device which is equipped with Crossbow. Therefore to post it officially is a issue :0)
Well most of us will need to wait until the heat is away and see the post of those
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lol i was also selling crossbow for $50.... but i gave up the idea when i found a few bugs and reported them to microsoft. Hopefully they come up with something more stable.

I think you are a liar, nuclear. :-(

r3bel said:
I think you are a liar, nuclear. :-(
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Call me a liar all you want. All i can do is post is screenshots of my device running crossbow. Actually I already sent screenshots of my device running Crossbow to a few people rebel. And I dont think i will install it again on my device. Its unstable and it ruined my SD card ....
Your attempt of Rebellion is Futile!

I believe ou nuclear cause Xbow is RTM since November
can you post a link or send me a link in PM , I'd like to try Xbow on universal
Cheers

I would like to try Crossbow tooo. Post the link or up the screenshot from uni, if you are not lier !

This has been said MANY times now.
People can't post links to Crossbow because the only people *supposed* to have it are OEM channel partners, and authorised developers.
The people that might have it other than these have obtained it from friends or colleagues, and do not want to get into trouble.
This was the same when WM5 came out, WM2003se, and WM2003.
If it gets posted here, the forum will get threatened with legal action, the same as when someone uploaded WM5 before it's release last year.
What we do here bends the rules, and Microsoft tollerate us because we provide support and a sense of community that the platform would miss quite badly if we were shut down.
Please don't keep forcing this people, you will get it when the time is right, just as we did with every other OS.
Some devices will get it, some won't. Just like WM5. Be patient.

nuclear said:
2. Early 2008.
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early 2007
Some people already have WM6 for universal and some other devices

Correct. I heard from some people, unfortunately it is without Video Calling and a number of bugs....
I believe when the time is right (tolerable bugs), it will be released. At the moment, please all just wait.
Cheers,

chris_khho said:
Correct. I heard from some people, unfortunately it is without Video Calling and a number of bugs....
I believe when the time is right (tolerable bugs), it will be released. At the moment, please all just wait.
Cheers,
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Ya ,you are right , no Video calling but had internet calling , they had a lot of bugs too , hope they can fix it and let us get this new OS for 2007 new year gift

mwang said:
Ya ,you are right , no Video calling but had internet calling , they had a lot of bugs too , hope they can fix it and let us get this new OS for 2007 new year gift
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Ye that would be good. I would like to discuss the bugs on this thing. Too many bugs as i see. Some of the noticed bugs.
1. WiFi can only be activated by going into start->settings or via the comm center. It cannot be activated/deactivated from the taskbar.
2. My 4GB and 8GB cards both got their MBR damaged.
3. Windows media player 10 usually hangs up or skips tracks on the SD card.
(SD card problem mostly)
These are the 3 bugs that i notice the most and ofcourse cant forget the video calling. It has MS Voice command installed on it which is a good thing. Also Smart dialing works in my crossbow ROM.

poussin69 said:
I believe ou nuclear cause Xbow is RTM since November
can you post a link or send me a link in PM , I'd like to try Xbow on universal
Cheers
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he "crossbow" is not RTM , no RTM at all

nuclear said:
Ye that would be good. I would like to discuss the bugs on this thing. Too many bugs as i see. Some of the noticed bugs.
1. WiFi can only be activated by going into start->settings or via the comm center. It cannot be activated/deactivated from the taskbar.
2. My 4GB and 8GB cards both got their MBR damaged.
3. Windows media player 10 usually hangs up or skips tracks on the SD card.
(SD card problem mostly)
These are the 3 bugs that i notice the most and ofcourse cant forget the video calling. It has MS Voice command installed on it which is a good thing. Also Smart dialing works in my crossbow ROM.
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Nuclear,
Discussing features or supposed bugs for an unreleased product most likely run on an old unsupported device is akin to posting screen shots. It is advised that you avoid this on this or any board.

Universal and Crossbow

Hi there!
I am about to buy a qtek 9000 but I´m wondering about if it would be possible 2 update the universal with WM5 to the coming soon new operating system Crossbow. I hope so,
Looking forward 2 hearing from u guys
Happy new year 2007

jumanji1212 said:
Hi there!
I am about to buy a qtek 9000 but I´m wondering about if it would be possible 2 update the universal with WM5 to the coming soon new operating system Crossbow. I hope so,
Looking forward 2 hearing from u guys
Happy new year 2007
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Its possible to upgrade but up right now no where to download

mwang said:
Its possible to upgrade but up right now no where to download
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OK, I dind´t explained properly. I meant update it when it will be released.
That´s a great news.
Thnks buddy

No problem !. I'm testing Crosbow on Universal !. I see Ok, speed fastly... However, Video Call Driver do not support, some tast slowly...
I continue test !. You're wait <removed> release !.
EDIT MDAIIIUser
As of 2.1.2007 there is no crossbow release that has got into the hands of the general public.

Crossbow has been released to some designated parts of the developers/partners community, and is currently being tested on the Universal (among others). While it seems highly unlikely that the Universal will ever see a formal Crossbow ROM, I can at least confirm that by all standards it is not ready for public use yet. It contains far too many bugs still.

Wiz said:
Crossbow has been released to some designated parts of the developers/partners community, and is currently being tested on the Universal (among others). While it seems highly unlikely that the Universal will ever see a formal Crossbow ROM, I can at least confirm that by all standards it is not ready for public use yet. It contains far too many bugs still.
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I understand, but please stop me if I´m wrong, ok?
1.What is the next operating system to update to our machines? I thought it was Crossbow and quiestion no1 leads us to question no2.
2. Crossbow = WM5 SE or WM06?
Independently the future operating systems we will get soon or later, do u think the universal will be old-fashioned or not full-updated to the operating systems that are coming?
Regards

jumanji1212 said:
I understand, but please stop me if I´m wrong, ok?
1.What is the next operating system to update to our machines? I thought it was Crossbow and quiestion no1 leads us to question no2.
2. Crossbow = WM5 SE or WM06?
Independently the future operating systems we will get soon or later, do u think the universal will be old-fashioned or not full-updated to the operating systems that are coming?
Regards
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its wm06
and there is no official "next operating system" for universal.. we are waiting that once croosbow gets released we will have a modified copy of crossbow on our systems too

kingdomraj said:
and there is no official "next operating system" for universal.. we are waiting that once croosbow gets released we will have a modified copy of crossbow on our systems too
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Correct. While Crossbow indeed has been made available to be tested on the Universal platform, it will not be released formally for the Universal by any of the OEMs. Economically simply not interesting enough for them.
Crossbow will not make it to the end-user before end Q1 mid Q2 '07, and by then we will more than likely have seen the introduction of the HTC Omni by then.

Wiz said:
Correct. While Crossbow indeed has been made available to be tested on the Universal platform, it will not be released formally for the Universal by any of the OEMs. Economically simply not interesting enough for them.
Crossbow will not make it to the end-user before end Q1 mid Q2 '07, and by then we will more than likely have seen the introduction of the HTC Omni by then.
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So, the HTC Omni will be the substitute/the brand-new Universal????
Personally, I don´t mind if Athena is the next Universal bc in my opinion is not "that better" than the Universal but I will mind if our there were no possibility to oficially-update our machines to the latest operating systems.
See u guys
P.S.: I´m texting u from the future bc I´m now in the year 2007

The HTC was, is and will still be the Universal's successor. The Athena will be a completely different model for a different audience, and will be more of a UMPC alternative.

Wiz said:
The HTC was, is and will still be the Universal's successor. The Athena will be a completely different model for a different audience, and will be more of a UMPC alternative.
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I got it
Thank u very much for the explaning to me these definitions buddy
being in touch

baoduyat said:
No problem !. I'm testing Crosbow on Universal !. I see Ok, speed fastly... However, Video Call Driver do not support, some tast slowly...
I continue test !. You're wait Helmi release !.
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Hi! I'm Universal (Qtek9000) user, and I have problems with receiving SMS Messages. My former ROM was a Qtek 1.30.77 original, now I use the Helmi's v 1.2 and 1.3 but I often couldn't get SMS Messages. After installing some features (e.g.: changebacklightcommand.cab) is my PDA no more able to receive the SMS. Only the HR helps in this case.
With the ROM 1.30.77 freesed sometimes the system after incoming an SMS.
So, if you can tell me some solution, i would be happy! Thankyou!

Wiz said:
Crossbow will not make it to the end-user before end Q1 mid Q2 '07, and by then we will more than likely have seen the introduction of the HTC Omni by then.
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Could you give more information about the HTC Omni? Or a source, where I can search for infos?

Think the consumers in US, especially the QTEK users in US may be able to give the QTEK guys some pressure to release it. Consumer is king in US.
QTEK in US release the A2DP which till now still not "Officially Released" in any other part of the world and we are using HACK from some good guys in this forum.
Put more pressure, we may get an official release?
Anyway, official or not, M$ Software is always buggy, the whole worlds knows. Have you guys ever count how many service pack it is sent for XP? Take it or leave it, thats M$.
Plus pressure to release devices to market, the OEM & service provider part of the software can be even more buggy.
That again, we need all the good souls here to help each other out.
Anyway, they are also watching us to get their product improved.
Keep up the spirit
Happy 2007

KKoppany said:
Could you give more information about the HTC Omni? Or a source, where I can search for infos?
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HTC Roadmap 2007
http://www.hpc.ru/lib/arts/2258/

The HTC Omni most likely will be a little thinner and it will run wm6 (crossbow) alone those two facts would be enough arguments for me to pay the 200 € (that's probably will be what tmobile germany will charge for it in connection with a new contract) for it.

KKoppany said:
Hi! I'm Universal (Qtek9000) user, and I have problems with receiving SMS Messages. My former ROM was a Qtek 1.30.77 original, now I use the Helmi's v 1.2 and 1.3 but I often couldn't get SMS Messages. After installing some features (e.g.: changebacklightcommand.cab) is my PDA no more able to receive the SMS. Only the HR helps in this case.
With the ROM 1.30.77 freesed sometimes the system after incoming an SMS.
So, if you can tell me some solution, i would be happy! Thankyou!
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Sorry you !. Because I don't see problem with SMS Messages in any ROM version ( O2, QTEK, I'mate, Indra, Helmi, IVAN ).
Who can help him ?. Please help !.

My Universal is almost 14 months old now. Initially I did have the problem of incoming SMS causing the device to freeze. I used to get some of the SMS's but at other times the device used to freeze requiring a soft reset.
Finally what I discovered was that I had removed the Messaging icon from the Today screen. The moment I put it back everything is okay since then. Say in the last 1 year not a single SMS has caused freeizing of the device and I reveive a lot of messages during the day.
I don't know if this holds for you but if you do not have the messaging icon on the today screen try to put it back. Hope it helps.
Best Regards

Yes, thank you very much for the information, but this article is known, and on many of home pages available. Unfortunatelly those haves nothing new about the new Omni phone. Everybody is happy for the Athena, but i don't think that it's as easy to use, as the Uni.

srmz said:
Finally what I discovered was that I had removed the Messaging icon from the Today screen.
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You mean messaging icon the item Messaging on the today screen (by Settings/Today)?

Will Mobile 7 be compatible with Hermes?

when it debuts? if so, we'll be getting cooked version here? when is it expected to come along>?

WM6 just came out earlier this year.. its probably too early for anyone to be able to give you a definate answer.

No one can tell the future. Questions like this only fuel speculation and rumours.

im sure by the time WM7 comes out there will be no more Hermes

Honestly I hope they change WM7 so much it isnt compatible. Seriously Windows Mobile needs a huge overhaul. It should look completely different and be so much more functional that it can't even run on old devices. Thats my hope. Plus in the 1-2 years before it comes out most of us probably won't even have our Hermes anymore.

JediFonger said:
when it debuts? if so, we'll be getting cooked version here? when is it expected to come along>?
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THIS is useless post wm7 lol

KanosWRX said:
Honestly I hope they change WM7 so much it isnt compatible. Seriously Windows Mobile needs a huge overhaul. It should look completely different and be so much more functional that it can't even run on old devices. Thats my hope. Plus in the 1-2 years before it comes out most of us probably won't even have our Hermes anymore.
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Totally agreed. Most of the time, backwards compatibility only hinders progress and development.

the Hermes is already obsolete

why do you think the hermes is obsolete?
i still have my 8125 and use it every weekend. going on what like almost 3 years old now. most new phones are still using either the 200mhz processors like the elf and tytn II is still using the 400mhz. only real diff. is the rom and ram. obsolete for who someone who needs the newest and greatest maybe.
i like thread that speculate like this why not rumors dont hurt any1 and just a real basic topic and seeing how that the tytn II is running wm6 then it has a good chance of being upgraded to wm7 right i mean were able to get are wizards and hermes to wm6. and since the hermes is the same basic device as the tytn II then i dont see it not being a possibility unless the tytn II is unable to be upgraded or that it requires more ram and rom to run. either way i dont think that wm7 is going to be a giant leap. ms is very slow at major changes and wm6 is basically like a sp2 for wm5 in a way. so i dont think that wm7 will be as much of a leap as most would hope.
but just my opinion on the matter i like these threads.

Lets see. Maybe it will be a WM8 or ......
Everything wich makes my device better is welcome !!!!

JediFonger said:
when it debuts?
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End of 2007? See this older article at Brighthand
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nateshuntsvegas said:
why do you think the hermes is obsolete?
i still have my 8125 and use it every weekend. going on what like almost 3 .
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The new Tytn II is out you know...

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The new Tytn II is out you know...
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6th generation Ipods are out, does that make my 4th generation ipod obselete? Nope, works just as well as 5th and 6th gen.

Windows Mobile 7
JediFonger said:
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Considering Mobile 6 came out shorlty AFTER Windows 6 (i.e. Vista).
Then it is not too hard to imgagine the same for WM7 coming out after Windows 7 (Formerly Blackcomb or Vienna). It is slated for 2010.
But there may be an intermediate release for WM6, likely not to be named WM7, just updates/tweaks.

hehe maybe service packs? why dont mobiles have that more often... not like everything is peachy of every new device and even old ones... there are so many bugs that everyone on such communities as this one fix, that i do not understand why we dont have more service packs for mobile devices :/ esp when a number of new devices come out and need the OS to be tweaked to utilize there new features or hardware.

Don't see any special difference between the TyTN 1 and 2 except the screen that moves in a special position and a new design...

I'm personally waiting for windows mobile 14...hopefully my 8525 will run it
haha

My first PDA in 2001 had PPC2002 (Compaq Ipaq) now my Jasjam (Hermes) is WM6 with this forums help
I would not get excited about anything from msoft in the future, I cant believe that 3 revisions and 6 years and there is not that much difference.
That is why you need killer apps and xda developers to make the Hermes into an excellent device. Mine is the way I want it now and very happy with it

People I still cant believe that HTC are releasing new models that dont support 3G. There isnt a device out there you would trade a Hermes for yet??
It would be great to see a newer device with enough memory to run itself for a few hours without grinding to a halt. How about a device like the S710 with 3G? It doesnt hurt to dream? Hopefully the right people read these forums?

Windows Mobile Vista is sure to ruin EVERYTHING!!!

Official ROM update confirmed

HTC norway was interviewed today at www.amobil.no, and the following question was raised from one of the readers, with the following reply.
Question:
Reader said:
(...) Second of all: Windows Mobile 6.5 and 7.0; will it be possible to update Diamond, Pro and HD and/or other models with the new versions of WM?
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There'll be a ROM-update for Diamond and Touch Pro in january , where we got a new MSFT release for WM6.1 and improved TouchFlo3d."
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Source (norwegian)
At least that confirms the 2.0 version we've seen? And the release date Hurray!

wew
that's grate news

TFLo3d
It's not as responsive as I see it in the youtube vids.
Seems to run flawlessly.
I notice a real slow down when I import contacts. I have quite a few.

and what is with the new versions of WM?

To the question : "WM6.5 or WM7 on diamond ?", the answer is "YEEES ! you will have WM6.1++ !!!"
I think it means we won't have them from HTC, as they probably reserve it for a brand new phone they'll try to sell us...
But XDA developpers are the bests, so i'm sure we can expect them to cook a nice WM7 Rom as soon as it will be available...

Let's hope WM7 will be able to run on our Diamonds. Can't wait till the release!

Not too sound too negative, but I mean WM6 kills the diamond - it makes it choke (cooked ROM's or not).
Hopefully that won't be the case for WM7. Because up to this point, I'm rooting Android all the way

This is pure speculation from all of us, since we're talking about an unreleased product. That said, Windows 7 beta seems a lot snappier than Vista (I know - doesn't say much) and slightly faster than XP. So, maybe WM7 will run faster than 6.1?

Some people have mentioned WM7, I highly doubt HTC will release 6.5 for the Diam/Raph/BlackS, never mind 7.
Good thing we have xda-devs, though I suspect that 7 will require new and diff. hardware in phones, such as multitouch.

how reliable is the news?
yea wm really sucks.. ms is really poor at innovation..
diamond doesnt have multi touch?
anyway been waiting for a new official rom for a damn long time.. was tempted to flash to a cooked rom.. so i guess can wait till jan for now to see what they offer..
Hopefully they resolve issues like memory leak.. and learn from the forums what the users really expect of the diamond and tf3d..

LOL when it be wm7 upgrade you ll have another **** phone from htc so what are you solving here i consider that due to ms is poor bastard* wm7 will be at 2010...just look to articles and news...

detroix said:
how reliable is the news?
(...)
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The guy interviewed is:
"Selskapets produktsjef for de nordiske og baltiske markedene, Christer Högström" ==> "HTC's Chief of Products for the nordic and baltic markets, Christer Högström"
So probably as reliable as it gets before the actual download is available.
Edit:
HTC actually got a bunch of questions regarding WM6.5 on current models, to sum up they're answers:
HTC will have to pay an upgrade license per device for 6.1 to 6.5, the details regarding this is not all worked out yet, so he couldn't answer if there would be released official 6.5 updates and if it would be free or a upgrade fee involved.
I suppose most/many of the hardcore users would be interested in upgrading if the fee vs gains is the right...

Don't hold your breath!
If HTC release an official 6.5 ROM upgrade for the Diamond, I will video myself eating my device and post it on YouTube for all to see! New OS means sales of NEW devices.... this makes good sense for businesses. Why offer an upgrade for a device someone has already bought when they can sell you a nice new device with the latest OS installed?
Thank goodness for XDA Developers, that's what I say! We will have our upgrade one way or another!

grahamkdt said:
If HTC release an official 6.5 ROM upgrade for the Diamond, I will video myself eating my device and post it on YouTube for all to see! New OS means sales of NEW devices.... this makes good sense for businesses. Why offer an upgrade for a device someone has already bought when they can sell you a nice new device with the latest OS installed?
Thank goodness for XDA Developers, that's what I say! We will have our upgrade one way or another!
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Tottaly agree. (Even though i wouldn't mind seeing Diamond beeing eaten )

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Jura_ZG said:
Tottaly agree. (Even though i wouldn't mind seeing Diamond beeing eaten )
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... yes, I might live to regret putting that in print!

will it happen????????
i don't think so....it will be xda members that will make it happen....
not the phone operators....they want you to buy a new phone and sign up again for 12 months +....well thats what i think any how

Jura_ZG said:
Tottaly agree. (Even though i wouldn't mind seeing Diamond beeing eaten )
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I totally agree too. The same happened for my old Trinity (no wm 6.1 version was released by HTC but very good cook version from xda people )

jojordy said:
I totally agree too. The same happened for my old Trinity (no wm 6.1 version was released by HTC but very good cook version from xda people )
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i miss my trinity.....great phone

liamhere said:
i miss my trinity.....great phone
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I confirm! I sell it to a friend but in my opinion for more things is much better than my new diamond ... (only few ram)

Making an upgrade available for some small fee wouldn't be that bad. Bussinesswise I understand your viewpoints but on the other hand, I buy my phone for 500EUR ($800 or something) I think for that price I can get some service. If I get bad service I wouldn't stay with HTC, but frequent updates will make me buy another one (or your operator will buy another one for you with ur contract), if that's 500EUR every 2 years I think they can be really happy.