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TornadoTotalControl OverClocking on Excalibur..

I have TornadoPowerControl installed and working on my Excalibur and would like to know what is the fastest settings I can clock the excalibur without damaging it..?? right now i just have it on AUTO.. Fastest is 204MHZ

Hi, I am trying to install this program as well, but having a little difficulty finding the download for Compact Framework Version 2.0 SP1...I would greatly appreciate if you could help me out.....regarding the highest stable clock speed, I have been testing it at 252 and 264 and personally feel that 252 is pretty stable....thanks for your time.
Regards,

Here's the link i used to DL the .NET Cf.. so 252mhz is stable..? how long u been clocking at that speed for??
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...6b-356b-4a2c-857c-e62f50ae9a55&displaylang=en

apologize for the late reply, thank you for the link....works great, yes my S620 has been overclocked at 252 close to a month now, so far so good.....I did try it a 264 for a while but didn't really notice that much difference and plus I didn't want to take a chance on draining the battery any faster...at 252 my battery still last the whole day on a full charge with a few hours on the phone, couple of hours on wifi, and a couple of hours of watching a movie (via TCPMP)...I have it overclocked all the time at 252 even when it comes out of stanby/and after a soft reset....hope this helps....

In MY business environment, htc s620 with bluetooth enabled and push e-mail enabled, with 15-25 phone call a day, some internet browsing, without tornado power control the battery ends before dinner, and sometime also dinners are part of the business !
My Hermes? always a USB-MINI USB adapter is in my pocket! Wizard? something better! Nokia 6310i? 2-3 days!
Lesson Learned: downclocking is more important in .BIZ than overclocking!

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kwues said:
Hi, I am trying to install this program as well, but having a little difficulty finding the download for Compact Framework Version 2.0 SP1...I would greatly appreciate if you could help me out.....regarding the highest stable clock speed, I have been testing it at 252 and 264 and personally feel that 252 is pretty stable....thanks for your time.
Regards,
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log int xda ftp and you will find just the cab file that you need, instead of the 22 mb download from MS. i am attaching total commander for smartphone it has ftp and reg editer, if you type this into any desktop browers or pocket explorer it will login.
ftp://xda:[email protected]/ xda:xda meaning usernameassword for any other ftp sites. hope that helps.
actually both files will be in ftp excalibur folder. side note you probalby know this, but all files that need or require desktop install, just go to c:\program files\microsoft activesync and you will find the cab file, nice to store for later use. sometimes they will be seperate folder instaed activesynce, well hope some part of this was of any use

Ok i set OmapClock to 252mhz, and i set TornadoTotalControl to 228mhz.. am i doing it right?? i just overlooked my settings and now i think i have it set up wrong.. when i set OmapClock to 252mhz and set the clock its fine but when i reopen OmapClock again it reset back to 132mhz.. is it because when it hibernates the clock resets its speed?? Isn't TornadoTotalControl suppose to keep it overclocked?? hmm.. opinions please.. thanks..

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Hi,
Everytime i overclock my S620 to 252MHz my phone crashes it freezes up and i cannot do anything accept pull the battery. Am i doing something wrong?? Please HELP!!
Thanks

datacrime said:
Hi,
Everytime i overclock my S620 to 252MHz my phone crashes it freezes up and i cannot do anything accept pull the battery. Am i doing something wrong?? Please HELP!!
Thanks
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Everytime I am close to 11.000 RPM my fiat car engine stops running. Am I doing something wrong?
YES! found: I forgot to connect the brain before starting the engine
Simply you have understoood why your S620 processor is a 200 Mhz processor, because is GUARANTEED working at 200 Mhz! Any overclock isn't, read the DISCLAIMER in Tornado Power Control before testing it at 300 Mhz!

sergiopi said:
Everytime I am close to 11.000 RPM my fiat car engine stops running. Am I doing something wrong?
YES! found: I forgot to connect the brain before starting the engine
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LOL. Very nice (and polite) response!

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other people with the same phone have reported that it is stable at 252 so why would'nt mine? What is a stable speed to overclock it to?
Thanks

Does this work better than omap? because I can't seem to get omap working on my Dash.

datacrime said:
other people with the same phone have reported that it is stable at 252 so why would'nt mine? What is a stable speed to overclock it to?
Thanks
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Because you CAN'T pair the words "stable" and "overclock", otherwise, if it was stable at 220 Mhz (or 230 or 250 whatever) they will sell it as OMAP 220 Mhz, instead of OMAP 200 Mhz!
OVERCLOCK means "OVER THE STABLE CLOCK CERTIFIED FROM COMPANY"
How is your wife in the bed? I don't know, some like her, some other don't...

sergiopi said:
Because you CAN'T pair the words "stable" and "overclock", otherwise, if it was stable at 220 Mhz (or 230 or 250 whatever) they will sell it as OMAP 220 Mhz, instead of OMAP 200 Mhz!
OVERCLOCK means "OVER THE STABLE CLOCK CERTIFIED FROM COMPANY"
How is your wife in the bed? I don't know, some like her, some other don't...
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That is incorrect. It has nothing to do with stability. It has everything to do with optimal battery life. HTC made their phone with a 200 MHz chip because it provides optimal battery life. Once you overclock it, even 10%, you significantly reduce your battery life due to the faster CPU speed.
An OMAP CPU rated at 200MHz doesn't mean that it won't run stable at 240MHz or higher. The last two phones I've had I ran overclocked 240MHz for months without issue.
Whether or not your phone will run stable at 240MHz is a crapshoot, however... Basically, you can step up the overclocking until the point where the phone locks up and reboots itself. One or two steps below that is the "safe" overclocking speed.

http://focus.ti.com/graphics/wtbu/blockdiagrams/l4_omap850.gif
This is the link to the processor scheme... the data sheet clearly state for the ARM926EJ subsystem MAXIMUM frequency as 200 Mhz
Isn't only a power problem, is also a heat problem and in some conditions it could be critical. Also the other subsystems couldn't accept data at that frequency, depending from tolerance related to building technology and may be the ARM processor works but other components (EDGE, Bluetooth, WIFI, ... ) could overheat.
That's why the overclocker builders always say: USE IT AT YOUR OWN RISK
http://focus.ti.com/general/docs/wt...lateId=6123&navigationId=12000&contentId=4679
link to TI Specs
Summarizing:
Insn't common to fry a processor just for a little (20%) overclock and normal conditions, but if you overclock more than 20% and use it at full power for a couple of ours you love to live on the edge man!
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OMAP850 Features:
Low-Power, High-Performance CMOS Technology
Low-voltage 130 nm technology
1.1 - 1.5V cores, 1.8 - 2.75V IO
Extremely low power consumption: less than 10 µA in standby mode
Split power supplies for application processing, digital baseband and real-time clock enable precise control over power consumption
Optimized clocking and power management: Only two clocks required at 13 MHz and 32 kHz
ARM926TEJ Core Subsystem
ARM926EJ-S V5 architecture up to 200 MHz (maximum frequency)
16 kB I-cache; 8 kB D-cache
Java acceleration in hardware
Multimedia instruction set architecture (ISA) extension
EDGE Digital Baseband Subsystem
384 K-bytes internal SRAM
E-OTD and TTY support
Quad vocoder with EFR, FR, HR, AMR
GSM ultra-low power device (ULPD)
SIM interface

ummmm....
sergiopi said:
Because you CAN'T pair the words "stable" and "overclock", otherwise, if it was stable at 220 Mhz (or 230 or 250 whatever) they will sell it as OMAP 220 Mhz, instead of OMAP 200 Mhz!
OVERCLOCK means "OVER THE STABLE CLOCK CERTIFIED FROM COMPANY"
How is your wife in the bed? I don't know, some like her, some other don't...
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actually, you can pair the words. I am coming from a PC Gamer standpoint. Look at 3 things
1.) how long will it most likely last if I OC it
2.) Do I plan to have this device for that long? (most cases "no")
3.) can it handle my workload (gaming) without crashing or freezing. (if yes then stable, besides those companies that certify things certify them under a very strict bar.)

overxtone said:
actually, you can pair the words. I am coming from a PC Gamer standpoint. Look at 3 things
1.) how long will it most likely last if I OC it
2.) Do I plan to have this device for that long? (most cases "no")
3.) can it handle my workload (gaming) without crashing or freezing. (if yes then stable, besides those companies that certify things certify them under a very strict bar.)
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Another way of looking @ it is that most CPU's come in underclocked the reason why so we buy a better model, even more recently we find CPU's just with cores disabled so as they fit into the lower price bracket, so a stable clock is more than capable on many CPU's obviously depending on other factors RAM speed, BIOS blah blah blah "sorry just far too many factors"
Lets just now go back to these tiny PC's "PPC's" it's the same principle Stock frequencys lower than HTC\M$ stated the device runs @.
If my [email protected] are too warm then i OC'd too much, if the screen whites i OC'd too much, the device freezes i OC'd too much.
Sod it 240MHz and stable what more do i want? A substancial speed boost without an excessive heat load.
B.T.W i'm just rambling

yay...
...yay, So I assume you agree with me? lol

overxtone said:
...yay, So I assume you agree with me? lol
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Yep i just had a long winded way of going about it

Basically ..........ummm.... FLAME ON!..

O2 Orbit or Orange SPV M700??

My mate just got the orbit and i really love the look and feel of it! Was planning all along to get the M700 too!
Can anyone tell me how the two compare - i know the tech differences but how about looks, feel, speed etc etc..
Thanks!

chickyd said:
My mate just got the orbit and i really love the look and feel of it! Was planning all along to get the M700 too!
Can anyone tell me how the two compare - i know the tech differences but how about looks, feel, speed etc etc..
Thanks!
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you should go into O2 & Orange shops and compare.
The M700 has a 400 Mhz cpu, but the OMAP in the Orbit is more efficient. Overclocked to around 260Mhz (at your own risk) it runs at about the same visible speed as the samsung.
The x and y dimensions of the M700 are only a smidgen larger, but it is 2mm thicker and 15% heavier then the O2 orbit. The battery also does not last as long.
If you want a smaller device and/or GPS you need the orbit. If 3G is critical to you, you need the M700.
The final thing to note is that Orange lock their PDAs, O2 do not.
rgds
c.

Thanks for that!
I'm now thinking about the orbit. If only i could go and check out the m700 but no shops are stocking them yet - no word on release date either!
Currently have wizard and find the omap processor on it rather sluggish when not overclocked so think i'lll need to do this to the orbit.
Can you tell me how to set the clock constantly overclocked? (at my own risk aside) is this safe? prob go for aroound 240 to be safe - this is what i do to my wizard and it makes alot of difference!

chickyd said:
Thanks for that!
I'm now thinking about the orbit. If only i could go and check out the m700 but no shops are stocking them yet - no word on release date either!
Currently have wizard and find the omap processor on it rather sluggish when not overclocked so think i'lll need to do this to the orbit.
Can you tell me how to set the clock constantly overclocked? (at my own risk aside) is this safe? prob go for aroound 240 to be safe - this is what i do to my wizard and it makes alot of difference!
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I had a wizard before and I think the orbit is slightly faster. It might be because WM5 on the orbit is a couple of service packs more advanced then the wizard, or that the implementation of the omap has improved abit. But its basically the same cpu, and if you found it sluggish before, you are likely to again.
I'd try in the shop before you buy, as its all personal preference.
There are many utils to overclock, I use omapclock. After a reboot you need to run it again. There is also omapclockplus which attempts to keep the overclocker running on reboot.
The best utility is the commercial one called xcpuscaler:
http://www.immiersoft.com/
Not only does this give you the most control, but you can set autoscaling for cpu load. e.g. if the cpu is less then 50% full you can set normal-or under clock, which saves battery.
there is an overclocking thread in this forum, have a read.
rgds

stupid me, forgot to mention the overclocker I actually use now (batterystatus):
http://www.chi-tai.info/cs_BatteryStatus_XDA_Neo_WM5_iM_cs.htm#Download
rgds

colonel said:
stupid me, forgot to mention the overclocker I actually use now (batterystatus):
http://www.chi-tai.info/cs_BatteryStatus_XDA_Neo_WM5_iM_cs.htm#Download
rgds
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Thanks for that!
Will give it a bash when it arrives tomorrow!!
Also got the 2gb sd card on order.. going to format it with FAT32 and keep my fingers crossed i don't end up having to post in that 'other' thread!

Having looked at that link i'll prob just go with omap overclock - don't think i need the other functions of the software!

overclocking

Hi,
Does over clocking the compact III give it more performance?
How does one overclock it in the first place?
i tried to search the artemis threads but could not find any information

Search for Battery Status Today Plugin

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=282006&highlight=artemis+overclock

thanks for the response and the link
how did i miss that one ??

No problem. I had the same question a few days ago so knew what to look for. (For the record I have my P3300 at 260 using the Battery Status Today plugin and it is stable for everything including TomTom. The difference in performance is quite noticable when multitasking.)

thanks for the reply,
what is the normal speed of the orbit/compact III/p3300?
will overclocking my device cause it harm in the long run?

xda_guy said:
thanks for the reply,
what is the normal speed of the orbit/compact III/p3300?
will overclocking my device cause it harm in the long run?
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Hi, not a very long term user, but my O2 Orbit runs fine at 273 with BatteryStatus. 289 seems not to be stable for me.

My P3300 runs max. at 273MHz. 286MHz makes device unstable, when it is full loaded.

xda_guy said:
thanks for the reply,
what is the normal speed of the orbit/compact III/p3300?
will overclocking my device cause it harm in the long run?
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The normal speed is 201, I believe. Overclocking creates more heat, takes more power, but seems to be stable when used in moderation (270ish max).
I had to take it off my phone because even overcloking to 210something caused me to not be able to stream video with WMP over wifi.

xda_guy said:
thanks for the reply,
what is the normal speed of the orbit/compact III/p3300?
will overclocking my device cause it harm in the long run?
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201 is the stock speed.
Overclocking could damage your device, especially if you push the edges of the chip's ability. Further continual over clocking might lessen the lifespan of the device.
That said there seem to be a good number of people overclocking to 250-260 without any obvious adverse effects. It may cause harm but for the most part seems safe as long as done in moderation. No one can say for certain though, it is a calculated risk.

Well BatteryStatus is your big friend here. The beta version (1.04) has an option called cpu scaler. I use it all the time. It works like this: you tell the program what you want to be the lowest cpu speed (for example 100Mhz) and you tell give in what the highest clockrate should be (for example 260Mhz). Depending on the load on you device BatteryStatus scales the clockspeed down or up. So when needed it gives you the extra power, and when not needed it will slow the device down, saving extra power and also saving the life of the processor.
I personally use the speeds mentioned above. But, when the speed is scaled down to 100Mhz the screen starts flickering a bit. If I were you I would not go down the 100Mhz.

Overclocking
I’ve Overclocked my XDA Orbit (O2) using Omapclock + OmapClockPlus successfully running at 264 speed anything above that doesn’t work on my phone, Reporting all programs running fine including Camera.

Dead Artemis...
JanetPanic said:
201 is the stock speed.
Overclocking could damage your device, especially if you push the edges of the chip's ability. Further continual over clocking might lessen the lifespan of the device.
That said there seem to be a good number of people overclocking to 250-260 without any obvious adverse effects. It may cause harm but for the most part seems safe as long as done in moderation. No one can say for certain though, it is a calculated risk.
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Hi folks,
today my artemis is died.....
He only shows the start screen (T-Mobile Logo) and won´t to da any more... useing bootloader mode an flash the rom back to wm5 (WM6 was before) is successful but then is the same, only starting logo and nothing more.... (he fews me this for more than 5 hrs now....)
I used Battery Status with @ 260 MHZ...
Maybe this was the problem...
Regards,
Andy

mine's on constant 260 with xcpuscalar, no side effects, been like that for ages.

HTC Touch overclocking

Any ideas to mess with the HTC Touches software to overclock it to 299mHz instead of 201mHz

Dotex said:
Any ideas to mess with the HTC Touches software to overclock it to 299mHz instead of 201mHz
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it uses an omap850 processor so you could use omapclock to overclock (read the readme's before using!!).
However, 299 MHz isn't regarded stable on a omap850, I wouldn't recommend overclocking over 260 MHz.
Any higher step should be carefully tested.
But there are people who have higher clockspeeds without any problems, and others who have problems with 260 MHz, its really up to the processor, just like with PC processors, not every processor can be clocked to the same speed.

Add to the above, 247 Mhz seems safe for most OMAP 850 I've played with and I've heard nothing bad from other people neither. 247 Mhz should be just enough for 100%+ playback with qvga videos in tcpmp.

but it's bound to give a batt time hit

Im new to the ppc world and i was wondering, where can i find this overclocking program? its just amazing how much you can do with these devices!!

http://www.google.dk/search?source=ig&hl=da&q=omapclock&btnG=Google-søgning&meta=lr=lang_da|lang_en

Which application name use for Touchflo in order to overclock?
The APLAUNCHER.exe?

APLAUNCHER
most likely mean application launcher
so unless that application launcher launch
the application called OmapClock.exe
prob not
it should all be made clear in many of the hits the google link i posted

I have been using Battery Status Ext 1.04 to overclock my Touch.
I overclocked it to 247 and with a speed burst to 260 and it rests at 143. Works great and I haven't ran into any issues. Battery obviously gets eaten a little faster but I keep the screen brightness low...

Hi guys... Im a newbies to the ppc world too... recently ive brought a htc touch. the os wm6 pro but was in chinese version, do anyone has the english version ROM.. Thanks in advance...

yes go look in the elf section of the forum
cid unlock the flash the english rom from there

HTC P3600 Overclocking

Has anyone friend any solution to overclock 3600 like the 3300?
i have see a 3300 devices with wm6 ( not the original rom) with some util, we run benchmark software and the 3300 has better results from my dell axim 50.
anyone know about this???
Thanks

Same question here.....
I want to OC my Tinity...

As far as I'm aware its a totally different processor. The 3300 has a TI OMAP 200MHz whereas the 3600 has a Samsung 400MHz processor. The plugin I use on my 3300 is called BatteryStatus but it is OMAP specific.
If its is the same prcoessor as the Hermes (from memory it is) then as far as I'm aware you can't currently overclock as no software exists to do this.

It is not possible to overclock the processor of the P3600 or any other Samsung driven device at the moment

markquinton said:
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If its is the same prcoessor as the Hermes (from memory it is) then as far as I'm aware you can't currently overclock as no software exists to do this.
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I have an 8525 and im using xCPUScalar to overclock. Works well...