Serial Cable - General Accessories

Hi all,
This forum being the greatest about HTC, I think you guys will have the answer :
I would like to use my TyTN to connect to the console of a router (using serial connection) :
1. Does anyone know where I could find a miniUSB-DB9 adapter ?
2. Will there be a driver for serial port, or is it natively managed with COM ?
Such cables exist but for PC, but not miniUSB and with a Windows driver, no info about the same thing for PocketPC.
Anyone knows ?
Thanks
zEar - HTC TyTN

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Understood the problem..
Hi all,
AFAI understood I cannot find a solution due to the lack of USB Host support in the TyTN. I still wonder if the port can be used in direct low level serial mode as you see in bootloader. Could WinMobile use it ?
Another way would be to have a device that would be usb host, putting the phone into slave mode, but maybe I dream...
Thanks for any reply..

there is a bluetooth to serial adaptor which has been reported to work with the tytn.

COM1
Hi,
After much googleing there's still hope. Windows Mobile presents a COM port : 'COM1 via cable' and in the specs of the TyTN there is RS232 communication.
I still cannot figure out if the miniUSB connector pins could be simply mapped to the corresponding RS232 signals. Probably not
Anyway I flashed the XDA-Live wm6 ROM and it's great ! the battery seem to last longer (still 70% after 2 days!)
Thanks to the xda-dev community

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XDA2s Connectivity

Sorry about this question may be a little simple but i cannot seem to find an answer on the net (or even within o2)
Is it possible for the USB output on the XDA2s to be converted to a 9pin serial port to allow me to connect say for example to a 9pin serial output of my clifford alarm system.
Thanks guys.
you can get serial cables for the phone.
I used mine for interfacing to a GPS
as for the specification of your alarm system, you would have to reverse engineer the protocol, or try and find the specs on the net.
try http://www.expansys.com/
Baz

MDAIII connected to Royaltek RGM 2000 GPS device

Hi All!
I have made a cable to connect the MDA III to my Royaltek RGM 2000 GPS device.
It works great but I don't understand one thing:
The documentation on this site says that MDAIII has rs232 interface (+-12V),
the documenation of the RGM 2000 says it only drives a TTL serial port.
I connected both device directly without a MAXIM IC.
How can that work?
Now I try to connect the GPS device to my PC over a MAXIM TTL to RS232 converter and I get only trash on my PC terminal.
Should I also connect the GPS device directly to serial port of my PC?
Please help!
I don't want the crash my GPS device!

USB to serial adapter

Good morning to all, I have a program that allows the operation of a unit through odbII - serial, so use with a handheld HP5550 that has taken the serial, I wish I use with my HTC P3600 but I can not use the adapter USB to serial, can you help me please?
I have written with WINCE driver and use the ARM is right?
Sorry for my bad English

RS232 via MiniUSB

Hello everybody
I would like to connect my HTC TyTn II to a device which is using a RS232 for a serial connection. The software I need is running under Windows Mobile 6.1. So what I need is a device to "convert" the USB into a RS232. For PC such things are can be easily bought but I have not yet found something similar for Windows Mobile 6.1 and MiniUSB.
Have I overlooked something (maybe it was to obvious) or do those device really not exist ?
Can you guys help ?
Thanks
Michael
Hm, I believe you can do COM connections over bluetooth (I believe the phone simulates a COM port over bluetooth). You might want to look for a Bluetooth to COM adaptor (don't know whether this exists, though).
even if you found a converter and one could just use one of the many rs232 to normal usb dongles and then a usb to miniusb converter
but it would never work
because to use those conveters the device is required to support usbHost which HTC TyTn II don't

TMC to USB Port (for Chinese GPS)

Dear All,
I would like to share my experience in this TMC project.
Recently I bought a Chinese GPS 100 unit to connect to my JVC KD AVX40
This has an av out in 320x240 and JVC has an AV in.
You can control the unit via touchpad.
It works correctly to my unit so I decided to get a TMC for this product.
This unit has One USB port which is in Host mode.
So Put a normal USB hub on it and it worked well with Pendrive and External Mouse
Next step, I got a FTDI USB to Rs232 device.
It has FTDI 232BM chip for UART connection it's very important to use chip like this , because of the windows ce driver
I've opened it and I removed chip called SP213EHCA.
In every RS232 there are 2 chips on the board. One is for USB to UART , and the second is for Uart To Rs232.
Because the every TMC receiver uses TTL communication which is working on 3.3v I need to "convert" the unit to USB to UART TTL only.
Obviously you can build a small circuit for this communication, but for myself it was easier to use this solution.
After I removed the Rs232 chip.
Datasheet Page 5 for picture of the pin outs.
You can download it from the FTDI website
The Tmc Receiver pin out is :
Pin definition:
Pin1 Vcc: 5V +- 10%
Pin2 TX: 3.3V TTL level, TMC data output.
Pin3 RX: 3.3V TTL level, receive commands.
Pin4 GND <-- It's not ground It's 5V !!!
Pin5 GND (for mini-USB only)
I soldered a mini USB mother type connector to the chip legs:
PIN2 goes to chip leg 24
PIN3 goes to chip leg 25
PIN5 goes to chip leg 17
So after this I connected the Royaltek TMC unit to my "hacked Rs232" board.
I put the "hacked rs232" to hub and I used a USB mini usb cable for power the tmc unit, so I connect the cable to hub and after that to the tmc.
After this I used this driver for windows ce 5.0
You can download it from the ftdi web site
I have to use mortscript which copy a self made reg file to the registry and copy the ftdi dll to /windows/ folder
Reg:
REGEDIT4
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Drivers\USB\LoadClients\1027_24577]
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Drivers\USB\LoadClients\1027_24577\Default]
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Drivers\USB\LoadClients\1027_24577\Default\Default]
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Drivers\USB\LoadClients\1027_24577\Default\Default\FTDI_DEVICE]
"DLL"="ftdi_ser"
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Drivers\USB\LoadClients\Default\Default\255]
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Drivers\USB\LoadClients\Default\Default\255\FTDI_DEVICE]
"DLL"="ftdi_ser"
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Drivers\USB\ClientDrivers\FTDI_DEVICE]
"Index"=dword:00000001
"InitialIndex"=dword:00000001 <--- This is for which com port to use 1...9
"Dll"="ftdi_ser"
"Prefix"="COM"
"Version"="1.0.2.11"
"ActiveSyncSetting"=dword:0003e880
"LatencyTimer"=dword:00000010
"DeviceArrayIndex"=dword:00000000
This reg file is directly uses COM PORT 1 (It was free in my device )
After this I created a very small circuit which holds the usb power for 20sec
parallely my reg and driver is installing in this time.
When I reached 20sec My Hive based Windows Registry will recognize the FTDI device and there are no pop up meassegas appear ....
IGO recognized the TMC device hardware
The reason I write this how to , because I read so many forums ,and web pages to find a solution for this , but i didn't find anything.
GNS is providing a TMC receiver for CAR PC but with a prolific based USB to UART chip, and the ARM based cpu is not understanding the driver
Ough I forget the tmc receiver what used:
Royaltek RTA-3000
Have a nince day I hope that I could help to someone
guika said:
Dear All,
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Have a nince day I hope that I could help to someone
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I got the same JVC stereo, how can I unlock for multizone DVD? Thank!
If i understand it correctly that you mean, you want to unlock the dvd region limitation.
I didn't unlocked it, but the main problem, that the unlock lock status is came from the dvd FW, which is not possible to reach it, via this unit. I searched for the web, and JVC also, for some FW update. There isn't any. So from my side i say it's not possible in easy way.
I have tested this solution and since half year aho its working fine under -20 to +50 so it is a solution.
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Compatibility
Also tested with FT2232H
This soultion is working , only bug that because of the dual uart the windows device pop up a notification for the second uart driver.
Also working.
Not working with Moxa chip.
Not working with Prolific PL-2303. ( Because the driver for the chip is not going to get open com port in wince 5 :S )
It seems that the only solution is the FTDI chip.
I've made a test with bluepanter and Wayteq and a very old Blaupunkt.
Solution is worked when I changed the usb mode to Host in wince.
It's seems for the blepanter and the wayteq it make not so much sense bacuse you could buy their original accessories.
For the blaupunkt is okay.
Also this could be okay for the 1-2 din chinese gps. Needs to be tested.
Reception improving
I had issue with the tmc reception.
So the solution is make a fm Y cable, and share the outdoor antenna to the head unit and to the tmc receiver.
After the installation, I realised that the reception was not so good, because I miss calculated with the phantom power to my roof antenna, after the phantom power installation everything went fine.
I got reception where I never had it before. TMC news downloading time improved as well.
Take care with the phantom power because it could kill the TMC receiver, use only one way adapter !
hi,
many many thanks for you thread...i had some questions...
i have bought an Dynavin DVN-MC2000 and this unit is without TMC but it have an GPS-In Mother-Usb cable...i think this goes directly to the wince5.0 system.
Where did you buy your RT-3000 and do you have the complete name of the FTDI Modul?!
Maybe we can develop a solution together i could make fotos from my open DVN-MC2000 if it helps
Maybe a ohoto would be great.
I bought the tmc unit in hungary in an avarage shop.
About ftdi i had one in my work desk. But it doesnt matter the meaing is it should any type which is supporting from the wince ftdi driver side. See ftdi web.
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Hello all!!
I've been reading the post and I have to congratulate you, very interesting!
If you do not mind I'll use this thread because I want to ask you a question, I haven´t found any response in any expert forum.
I have a problem with my car radio. It is a chenese radio with GPS and TMC integrated.
From the beginning the TMC worked correctly but It had problems with the GPS. It didn´t work properly (may be the driver was wrong or it was bad installed on the WIN CE5). The provider din´t give me a solution and I found a forum in France. There someone sent me an European WIN CE 5 ROM with the GPS installed a working properly. The problem is that this guy didnt have any ROM with the TMC driver integrated and now I dont have it installed.
My actual state is: WIN CE + GPS HW (installed and working) + TMC HW (not insalled)
My question is:
How could I install the TMC in my radio WIN CE5? The HW exists but my WIN CE 5 does not have the drivers and of course the IGO can not find it.
Thank you very much!
pd: sorry about my english!!!
elmike1980 said:
Hello all!!
I've been reading the post and I have to congratulate you, very interesting!
If you do not mind I'll use this thread because I want to ask you a question, I haven´t found any response in any expert forum.
I have a problem with my car radio. It is a chenese radio with GPS and TMC integrated.
From the beginning the TMC worked correctly but It had problems with the GPS. It didn´t work properly (may be the driver was wrong or it was bad installed on the WIN CE5). The provider din´t give me a solution and I found a forum in France. There someone sent me an European WIN CE 5 ROM with the GPS installed a working properly. The problem is that this guy didnt have any ROM with the TMC driver integrated and now I dont have it installed.
My actual state is: WIN CE + GPS HW (installed and working) + TMC HW (not insalled)
My question is:
How could I install the TMC in my radio WIN CE5? The HW exists but my WIN CE 5 does not have the drivers and of course the IGO can not find it.
Thank you very much!
pd: sorry about my english!!!
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From the first i need to know what kind of tmc chip do you have. Royaltek/GNS and after that we can get closer to the problem. Qhit the upper sokution you can put in the driver if we will figure out the chip manufacturel.
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I am sure that the integrated chip is GNS tipe.
The only thing that can hapen if we install a wrong driver is that it would not work, wouldnt it?
But the other things would work good...
thank you!
elmike1980 said:
I am sure that the integrated chip is GNS tipe.
The only thing that can hapen if we install a wrong driver is that it would not work, wouldnt it?
But the other things would work good...
thank you!
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Generally yes.
But first. You will need to do some test. I will post it later. Because right now in this days i have a lot to do. I wont forget your problem so i will post it here what to check first to start your problem solving....
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thank you very much!
I will wait for your answer.
regards.
please dont forget me!!
bye!
Dony worry i wont
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Hello Guika,
Where did you get your Chinease GPS 100? can you send me the link?
Thanks,
cjean said:
Hello Guika,
Where did you get your Chinease GPS 100? can you send me the link?
Thanks,
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http://www.car-audio.hu/?base=items&filter=cat&type=item&catid=0&cid=141&id=714
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elmike1980 said:
thank you very much!
I will wait for your answer.
regards.
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I found something maybe from your IGO8 folder is missing one file called gpstmc.dll
Check this forum
http://www.mobilepassion.org/viewtopic.php?t=2355
I will check it.
Anyway I think that I need the driver for TMC receiver. I have the HW but it is not installed. Do you know were could I find TMC drivers for Win CE 5? with them the problem would be solved-install and the IGO would take it automatically (I had it installed the first time, but the GPS didnt work).

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