Windows Mobile 6 - 8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development

I bought an unlocked HTC branded TyTN. It is a great device. It runs Window Mobile 5. I see possibilities from wireless carriers of an upgrade to WM6. Has anyone heard about an upgrade for those in my situation? I would love to get rid of the small bugs and have the new WM6 functionalities.
I have heard all of the ROMs had to be removed. Are there any (legal) prospects of being able to upgrade to WM6 for any Hermes variant?

http://forum.xda-developers.com/search.php

belinea said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/search.php
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LOL
Lazy ass

Can anybody tell me where I can find the Hermes WM6 Forum, and come enter the URL in my browser for me...
Jeez !!!

Will some one come feed me at lunch today? I'm to lazy to pick up my own fork. Also, if you could pick me up before and drop me back off at the office after, that would be great!
Kthxbye.

This thread was 7 months old (BV - before Vanx) - can we not just leave it to die?
Can a mod lock it?
Cheers,
Smiffy.

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WM6 Running on HTC!

Has anyone figured it out? What would it take to get WM6 running on our HTC's? Is it just a mater of getting the OS from Microsoft and upgrade or is it a custom rom specifically made for our Hermes?
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WM6 Running on HTC!
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The title of this thread is VERY misleading. I was almost excited!
There is a photo on the official WM6 page from Microsoft with Crossbow running on what looks to be a Tytn.
rjtd said:
There is a photo on the official WM6 page from Microsoft with Crossbow running on what looks to be a Tytn.
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Please, can you post the link to the photo ?
Boy this thread is misleading.
koolhand79 said:
Boy this thread is misleading.
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Your picture too
Here is an article with a couple videos of Windows Mobile 6. One video shows Windows Mobile 6 in action and the other shows different devices with Windows Mobile 6 installed. Three of the devices are from HTC. They highlight a HTC Typhoon, a HTC Excalibur, and what looks like an HTC Herald. I just hope that the Windows Mobile 6 version has 3G.
Here is the link: http://blogs.zdnet.com/Berlind/?p=345&tag=nl.e539
wpbear said:
The title of this thread is VERY misleading. I was almost excited!
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No kidding I almost p'd my pants.
Bad Bad title.
the good old forum search for WM6 would have turned up plenty of reading on this topic.
lol So i see i got all of your attention, i guess its misleading because there's no "?" at the end and thats the whole point of my topic
But the fact of the matter is still not answered, i know there's lots of topics on WM6 but nothing as far as our Hermes so now that i got your attention can we put our head together and figure something out because if we wait for HTC to come up with something our phones most likely die out before we can get anything out of them.....
Be careful what you wish for. My old Dell Axim X50v came with Windows Mobile 2003SE on it.. everybody clammored for WM5 once it came out. Once we got the upgrade, it was a terrible upgrade with the MS BT stack, and a bunch of apps that previously worked, that now didn't... a LOT of the aximsite members went back to 2003SE.
By the way, the stickied thread about cooked ROMs has a large amount of discussion about WM6 (crossbow) already.
hahaha thanks for the teasing
rkorzuch said:
Here is an article with a couple videos of Windows Mobile 6. One video shows Windows Mobile 6 in action and the other shows different devices with Windows Mobile 6 installed. Three of the devices are from HTC. They highlight a HTC Typhoon, a HTC Excalibur, and what looks like an HTC Herald. I just hope that the Windows Mobile 6 version has 3G.
Here is the link: http://blogs.zdnet.com/Berlind/?p=345&tag=nl.e539
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I just watched the whole video and i was drooling over my screen That is in fact an HTC so the title is not misleading after all
Bimboy said:
Be careful what you wish for. My old Dell Axim X50v came with Windows Mobile 2003SE on it.. everybody clammored for WM5 once it came out. Once we got the upgrade, it was a terrible upgrade with the MS BT stack, and a bunch of apps that previously worked, that now didn't... a LOT of the aximsite members went back to 2003SE.
By the way, the stickied thread about cooked ROMs has a large amount of discussion about WM6 (crossbow) already.
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Bimboy i am aware of the x50's and those upgrades, i owned one before i got the x51v and i am a member of aximsite as well but if you did some reading in to that x50 problem you would have noticed that they cant compare the x50 upgrade to WM5 as what would it take to update the x51v to WM6 as is not the same comparison and OS systems.... and WM5 is not much different then WM6 as what Mobile 2003 was to WM5.....
Also in the end read on how many guys are still enjoying their x50's with WM5 on them as well...So i think the HTC is very likely able to handled WM6 in the end.
I like wm6
Got WM6?
spiritofseth said:
I like wm6
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@spirit: I see in another thread you got WM6 AND won an 8525? Lucky dog! I didn't get your comment in that post, though - something like "I guess WM6 is useless now?"
In the post above you write that you like WM6. You got it on your 8525?
Ben
OFFSIDE !
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DAG GAMMIT ! This thread got me again. I was like YIPPIE !
This is like screaming Goooooaaaaaaaallllllllll and being given an Offside !
cyberdrakula said:
DAG GAMMIT ! This thread got me again. I was like YIPPIE !
This is like screaming Goooooaaaaaaaallllllllll and being given an Offside !
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Ha, ha! Yeah, seth sucked a lot of us in here with the title of the thread.
Ben
i was like yes WM6 for my 8525 but nooo!! thanks alot! haha
looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool
If i dont get WM6 on my hermy im gonna get me an iphone instead

No official wm6 for the Trinity

Hi,now it's sure,the Trinity will not benefit upgrade with the official wm6 rom.For info,read here
Check this out
http://www.dopodasia.com/global/hke/news/20070503_Dopod_WM6_upgrade.html
I 've already read this, but i think it's not for Htc Europe.
I donno where I've read it but I remember that dopod will upgrade the 3600 to wm6
Edit sorry losai already mention it
It's an old news you've got "Marcdu81" (april) !! Maybe the petition will have an effect !!
This is old news man! HTC already stated that if demand was high they would change views. I will not even bother posting the threads, go search yourself. Think before you post!
Sorry guys,but i've Phone to Htc France and they confirm : No wm6 for Trinity : I ask him this question : Why ? I wait again the answer !
I think you can wait a long time for nothing...There is no reason except "marketing" !!
Marcdu81 said:
Sorry guys,but i've Phone to Htc France and they confirm : No wm6 for Trinity : I ask him this question : Why ? I wait again the answer !
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You don't need a ROM from HTC. You can load the Dopod ROM to your device when it is released. If you need a French ROM, I'm sure that someone here will make one from the original Dopod D810 WM6 ROM.
i have an official email from Dopod Australia saying that they will be releasing a WM6 gps version soon (in the next couple of months).
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You don't need a ROM from HTC. You can load the Dopod ROM to your device when it is released. If you need a French ROM, I'm sure that someone here will make one from the original Dopod D810 WM6 ROM.
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Not quite the same getting your ROM from a company that re-badges these devices. I for one am way too lazy to change everything (boot splash etc) in the upcoming Dopod release to make it exactly like HTC.
I think a boycott of HTC phones is way overdue. Eten anyone?
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Not quite the same getting your ROM from a company that re-badges these devices.
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Well, actually they are the same company now.
forcedalias said:
I think a boycott of HTC phones is way overdue. Eten anyone?
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Whilst I sympathise with you - judging by recent reviews I think you should be careful what you wish for...
No longer a product
If you look on the HTC website. The Trinity P3600 is not even listed as a product anymore.....
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If you look on the HTC website. The Trinity P3600 is not even listed as a product anymore.....
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huh?
http://www.htc.com/product/03-product_p3600.htm
MontAlbert said:
i have an official email from Dopod Australia saying that they will be releasing a WM6 gps version soon (in the next couple of months).
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it has been months. dopod aus never got the wm5 gps rom. i don't know why they are taking so long... probably because customer support doesn't make them money. even o2 was faster in releasing wm6 to atom life (and the support is crap, i've had 2 o2's)
by the time they release wm6 with gps rom, the d810, wm6 and even maybe gps will be obsolete, and we will all have a new device.
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Well, actually they are the same company now.
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I know, but then... that's even more a reason to release it if one of your children companies is about to beat you to it.
Call me picky, but I want all the ROM version information/splash/logos etc all to be HTC.
HTC seems to have some automated response for my questions, even if you ask WHY the trinity ain't on the list of phones expecting an update, they send a link to the press release.
Growing a little tired of HTC lately, they're even removing the infrared port from their trinity-successor, Kaiser. What will I do with my $40 worth of TV remote software? Damn it!
forcedalias said:
Growing a little tired of HTC lately, they're even removing the infrared port from their trinity-successor, Kaiser. What will I do with my $40 worth of TV remote software? Damn it!
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I doubt if Kaiser will be released shortly - It has a Qualcomm chip in it, see http://www.boygeniusreport.com/gallery/handsets/htc-kaiser-unboxing/?pid=668#picture_nav
The US ITC has banned imports on phones with Qualcom chip with immediate effect. See http://www.nytimes.com/2007/06/08/business/08phone-web.html
See below - not listed as product by HTC
MAK11 said:
huh?
http://www.htc.com/product/03-product_p3600.htm
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http://www.htc.com/product/03-products.htm
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http://www.htc.com/product/03-products.htm
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Install Tilt WinMob 6.1 on 8525 what if?

What would happen if I attempted to download (from htc) and install the windows mobile 6.1 update for the tilt on my 8525? I am currently running SPL-2.10.Olipro.. do you thing it would brick the phone? I mean why wouldn't it work? The tilt is a 400mhz process same as the 8525.. only added features on the tilt is the GPS and auto focus camera...Any thoughts? yes I am a noob.
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What would happen if I attempted to download (from htc) and install the windows mobile 6.1 update for the tilt on my 8525? I am currently running SPL-2.10.Olipro.. do you thing it would brick the phone? I mean why wouldn't it work? The tilt is a 400mhz process same as the 8525.. only added features on the tilt is the GPS and auto focus camera...Any thoughts? yes I am a noob.
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you are welcome to be the first one to try! such old questions that has been answered many many times.
i am not talking about cooked versions.. I am talking about OEM. I rather not be the first one to try but technically what would happen?
first of all the RAM and ROM size is different, it will turn your hermes to a brick ... but again, you're more than welcome to be the first one to try.
well then that is all I needed to know. That is the reason why I can not do it.. cause the ram and the rom size is different. Thank You.
You wont be able to install it. But if you would like to brick your hermes, then go ahead and try it and let us know
GOD DAMN!!! Congrats Men!
The most inspirated question i have heard I come from wizard threads and letme tell you...
The RUU original will tell you ERROR (XXXX) Wrong device or wrong ID or wrong ROM Update Utility
God Damn!!! but if you try to extract the NBF from the exe with winrar...
maybe it's named Ruu_signed.nbf for Hermes... or its calle NK.nbf as in Wizard or maybe is called Dont_extract_me_fool.nbf
Maybe yopu can rename it to RUU Signed.nbf and put it on RUU Wrapper and run it!!!
I know a guy that has an Universal and flash a Custom rom for Wizard on its...
OBVIOUSLY it is bricked!!!! a blank screen only! no Bootloader no hardreset.
So... answered bye
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What would happen if I attempted to download (from htc) and install the windows mobile 6.1 update for the tilt on my 8525? I am currently running SPL-2.10.Olipro.. do you thing it would brick the phone? I mean why wouldn't it work? The tilt is a 400mhz process same as the 8525.. only added features on the tilt is the GPS and auto focus camera...Any thoughts? yes I am a noob.
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I know that this has been answered--NO but I thought you might like to know a bit more.
1--The hermes uses a completely different chipset and video set up.
2--the ROM and RAM sizes are completely different. The tilt has more than two times the amount that the hermes has
3--The Hermes is a single processor device running a 400Mhz as you stated but the tilt is a dual processor device --one running the os and the other handling the calls to hardware such as the radio and gps.
4--The devices take completely different drivers. You should have researched the specs before asking this type of question.
Finally, winmobile is not like xp. It is not built to handle any hardware you through at it. It is very customized for the hardware on which it is installed. It has to be to fit in the small storage on these devices.
There are 6.1 versions of cooked roms already for the hermes. just use one of those! Better yet, don't ever flash your device because ...well I am sure you can figure out the rest of that sentence!
Tilt is very old phone...
Tilt rom!? such a old phone. Why would you install old phone rom on your nice hermes? Try some new rom ... I know, why don't you try the Diamond rom? I like that one . let us know how it works... Hey, and welcome to XDA forum... allways good to have a another new cook.
I bet you're glad you asked now
Welcome to the ever friendly world of XDA!!!
Mil3 said:
Tilt rom!? such a old phone. Why would you install old phone rom on your nice hermes? Try some new rom ... I know, why don't you try the Diamond rom? I like that one . let us know how it works... Hey, and welcome to XDA forum... allways good to have a another new cook.
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huh? he's not a chef!
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i am not talking about cooked versions.. I am talking about OEM. I rather not be the first one to try but technically what would happen?
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Or a n00b asking to a n00b...
Tilt is an old phone? I think that he wants to say... hermes is better than tilt.... then I understands that he agree to the other n00b to flash even a Diamond ROM... does I am wrong, well I understand that...
Tilt rom!? such a old phone. Why would you install old phone rom on your nice hermes? Try some new rom ... I know, why don't you try the Diamond rom? I like that one . let us know how it works... Hey, and welcome to XDA forum... allways good to have a another new cook.
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Tilt is newer than hermes.
Let us know how it works? Men this guy is dangerous!!!!
Good to have aNNNN another new cook? what da heck? hahaha
Enjoy your fantastic and fabulous thread.... n00bs!!!
I think he wants an original 6.1 on his hermes... thats all... but men why dont you read there is a thread with this question.
I think we all got our noob bashing off our chest and I think the OP has got the message its not a good idea. How bout we drop this pointless thread now.....
Another noob here
I realize that y'all become impatient and annoyed with noobs, but this very question is what led me to this site in the first place. I apologize that I'm just a concerned and inexperienced consumer trying to gain knowledge from the best source I can find online, and that I haven't really mastered searching this site as well as everyone else to find the answers to my dilemma.
I have an AT&T 8525 and HTC told me that they aren't going to do any more updates, and also, no, I can't download the Tilt ROM onto my phone. In fact, they planned to pull the WM 6 ROMs off their site on October 31. I just rechecked the HTC site this evening, and they've removed *all* updates for the 8525 from the page I used to visit. So if I brick my phone by doing some silly noob thing, I can't even go back and get the old WM 6.0 ROM.
I've already had the opportunity to see the new AT&T Fuze since it hit the stores yesterday, but I'm wary of buying it the minute it comes out. I would prefer to lurk for a while and see what the rest of y'all have to say in the Raphael forums before I spend the money.
Please be charitable to people like me who are just trying to be cautious. I love the phone I have because it's been very reliable, but yet it's obvious that there is a "planned obsolescence" for the 8525. Meanwhile, I'm just looking here for something I can do to get WM 6.1 for my 8525 until I'm satisfied that they've gotten the bugs out of the Fuze. I think there's still plenty of life left in my 8525 and you might say I just want to renew my love affair with it.
OK, noob rant over..thanks for your consideration!
Step 1... Install Hard SPL V7 onto your 8525. It helps recover your Hermes if it does go south while doing the update.
Step 2... Look at the WM06 section of the forum. Just about ALL the roms displayed there at the moment are Wm6.1. Read the Chefs writeup about their ROM and see if you like it.
If you did a search with the keywords "Hermes roms" it may have led you back to the original stock ROMs and cooked ROMs. These are pretty old now though.
Cheers...
It doesn't hurt to actually get your own library of ROMs, I made sure I have my stock Telstra rom stored on my hard drive. Since you knew that the stock ROM you use was about to be pulled you should've downloaded it so if something does go wrong you actually have it and don't remain victim to HTC's will. Now it may be harder to find the stock rom you use...

The windows mobile 6.5 (news)

I thought everyone who owns an excalibur should know about this...
http://www.electronista.com/articles/08/11/07/windows.mobile.65.a.go/
When an article is 3 months old, it's no longer considered news. It's olds.
xatzis5000 said:
I thought everyone who owns an excalibur should know about this...
http://www.electronista.com/articles/08/11/07/windows.mobile.65.a.go/
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Already available for some PPC users, M$ kicked off today @ XDA and got the item removed... Doubt any of the Dash users will see WM6.5 unless someone ports it, as no new ROMs have been officialy produced and not even an official WM6.1...
So we can dream and wait till the Dash 2 and see what we get?
lol @ post above was didn't even read the link
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Already available for some PPC users, M$ kicked off today @ XDA and got the item removed... Doubt any of the Dash users will see WM6.5 unless someone ports it, as no new ROMs have been officialy produced and not even an official WM6.1...
So we can dream and wait till the Dash 2 and see what we get?
lol @ post above was didn't even read the link
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I think the 6.5 will be ported on the phone!It doesnt have so many diferences..
Its still wm6 whit updates on it!
We will wait n see..
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I think the 6.5 will be ported on the phone!It doesnt have so many diferences..
Its still wm6 whit updates on it!
We will wait n see..
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A big difference is that it will be for a different device
I know what the difference is and have run WM6.5 "Hybrid" (Without the new homescreen) on Tilt, it will take someones time to port it so we will see?
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A big difference is that it will be for a different device
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True!! But i think that they will going to reallese it on a simular divice!Maybe not... The phone will handle the new wm6.5(if someone ports it) roms im sure!
I have an old qtek 8310 and it runs wm6.1 smooth and yet the model is soo old..
You understand what im trying to say right?

Dash, 6.5 on unit for sale on craigslist.ca

Hey there all just wondering about this rom, i know its been posted before but i think its worthy of talking about again, this is just wondering a Beta the copy out there isn't it ?, anyone know the direct link to getting it on our S620 S621's, and want to explain things about this rom, i thought i read though the 6.5 has been deleted off of here ?
if you'd like to check this ad out go to www.craigslist.ca make sure your looking in Toronto.
No 6.5 for Excalibur so save your money. If it would be anywhere it would be here.
First off the beta version of 6.5 rom that was on the forum was for a different device and yes they removed all links and download mirrors for it. Who else you would thing whould have it but us? Microsoft got wind that we had unofficial and unlicensed copies if it , and the moderators took it out.
1. this was the thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=474869
2. This is what it looked like http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3214841&postcount=1
This guy seem's to say he has a working copy on his phone, maybe i can get the rom off of him or see what he says how he got it working on his dash.
Unbranded Microsoft Verson won from microsoft conference HTC S621 Pro Kavana 6.1 made in Taiwan Overclocked to 288Mhz Stable.
It's rubbish if he had WM6.5 then he'd be showing screenes as be well proud and if it was anywhere would be here.
roloracer:
Thought you might like to see this Important notice to all Chef's and users regarding the 6.5 rom removal Hoax
XDA still looking into it "they need to make sure", but if you look you will see why suspicious.
stylez said:
It's rubbish if he had WM6.5 then he'd be showing screenes as be well proud and if it was anywhere would be here.
roloracer:
Thought you might like to see this Important notice to all Chef's and users regarding the 6.5 rom removal Hoax
XDA still looking into it "they need to make sure", but if you look you will see why suspicious.
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Stylez:
I see that man, It's messed up that some pr*ck could dissrupt our development like that That James Young guy being a hoax even though is messed up and is pissing off a lot of people, is a good thing 'cause no legal problems will come to xda for having it and hopefully soon enough maybe we'll get the go ahead to work on the 6.5 again, and maybe we'll see it around here for the dash
We'll the guy never wrote me back maybe he sold it or knows me from here lol wonder if he had 6.5 running, wonder.

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