We would be very happy if any1 here could make a WM6-rom for trinity or write a guide so I could bake it myself. Please.
What you need to start with is a base Trinity WM6 ROM (since it's HTC's job to write the HAL). AFAIK these don't exist for the Trinity yet.
So there is no possibility to use the rom from kyphurs release and convert it with all the avalible tools?
Since the base HAL of the ROM is hermes specific, it would be like trying to flash a hermes os.nb onto a Trinity.
Hmmm damn, people make miracles here in this forum allready would it be impossible to write a hal for them? Excuse me for not knowing what I talk about here but cant someone strip an wm5-rom and take whatever thats needed for the wm6-rom to boot?
if i were to use mtty to lnb OS.nb to a trinity
would it spoil the trinity?
@jeRrRKKKK: probably not if you use a valid hermes OS.nb, but it won't boot, so you should better don't try it.
maybe i should try to convince some trinity users to try it so if they bricked their device while trying, i wouldn't be at any loss... lol
anyways the process is reversible... why not some trinity users give it a go?
for all you know it might open the door for cross platform flashing... imagine if the o2 atom gets wm6 full release first, and we can just cross platform flash it over... don't you think it saves alot of time and agony?
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All the new tools over at the hermes forum isnt it possible to cook a WM6-rom for trinity with thoose. Damn that I dont have the knowledge.
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I hope that the XDA team will extends XDA Live's support to the Trinity..
I'm keeping my fingers crossed that it shows up soon...
I'm a little confused. What does WM6 have or do that WM5 doesn't? I hate newly released Micro$oft products as they are generally full of bugs and holes and nothing seems to work right (Vista) or am I messing something? Just wondering what I would gain by moving to WM6.
RebelShadow said:
I'm a little confused. What does WM6 have or do that WM5 doesn't? I hate newly released Micro$oft products as they are generally full of bugs and holes and nothing seems to work right (Vista) or am I messing something? Just wondering what I would gain by moving to WM6.
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html email
new user interface
faster response
cooler today themes
nicer sounds
internet explorer now supports ajax
agenda view in calander mode
account selection tool when opening messages
the satisfaction that i have something that you don't
the knowledge that i'm 1 of the first to have a wm6 device
the wows and woos from your friends when they realise they have a backdated device
for everything else, there's mastercard
jeRrRKKKK said:
the satisfaction that i have something that you don't
the knowledge that i'm 1 of the first to have a wm6 device
the wows and woos from your friends when they realise they have a backdated device
for everything else, there's mastercard
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HAHA, AGREE
ericlin0122 said:
HAHA, AGREE
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hehe exactly!
Problems with XIP!!!
WM5 - win_kernel in ROM
WM6 - win_kernel in XIP
we can't modify XIP
p.s. for TyTN WM6 RomUpdate - custom ROM
xda-developers not create this rom for Hermes - xda-developers only customized WM6 Rom
damn XIP if I knew what that was I'd kick it's butt!
lvsw said:
Problems with XIP!!!
WM5 - win_kernel in ROM
WM6 - win_kernel in XIP
we can't modify XIP
p.s. for TyTN WM6 RomUpdate - custom ROM
xda-developers not create this rom for Hermes - xda-developers only customized WM6 Rom
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So the Hermes WM6 has XIP Kernel made especially for Hermes from MS? If we are to get WM6 on the Trinity, we need to find a WM6 ROM with a kernel that is made especially for the Trinity from MS? Is my logic right?
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So the Hermes WM6 has XIP Kernel made especially for Hermes from MS?
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may be...........
any trinity user wanna try to use mtty to lnb OS.nb onto his device and try???
afterall it's reversible... if the phone doesn't boot, mtty your original OS.nb in and presto!
jeRrRKKKK said:
any trinity user wanna try to use mtty to lnb OS.nb onto his device and try???
afterall it's reversible... if the phone doesn't boot, mtty your original OS.nb in and presto!
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If you load hermes OS.nb to Trinity - you device die!
So we have to find a leaked WM6-rom for Trinity then. Hmmm probably easier to find water in the sahara dessert.
So will never see wm6 on trinity???
I've tried to flash the OS from hermes in my trinity. Doesn't work.
I thought my device had died but i managed to get into the bootloader (after reinserting battery) end reflash trinity rom
Today is a BAD day!!!
Is this the end of the line?
This is dreadful news.
here is one for test, from hermes one , with 1.35.11 radio in wwe.
http://rapidshare.com/files/18864597/WM6.1.35.11_Trinity_Untested_WWE.rar.html
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here is one for test, from hermes one , with 1.35.11 radio in wwe.
http://rapidshare.com/files/18864597/WM6.1.35.11_Trinity_Untested_WWE.rar.html
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better not put radios on cooked roms, can easily brick the device... if you are testing OS just put OS on the nbh file.
ok , i'll modify it , but i haven't got any trouble yet. Anyway . i'll do it soon
Im wondering if its possible to create a rom for an x50 using WM6. Im new to this crowd but i dont have a problem getting my hands dirty. I have some experiance creating and hacking non WM phones so i figure i can probably keep myself from drownding.
I know almost all of the new PPC's and Smartphones are VGA, does WM6 only run on VGA phones? also it seems the only roms out there for WM6 are for VGA devices, is that the reason?. Im also wondering how hard it would be to modify an existing WM6 rom for the x50v so that it would work with the x50(if thats possible).
my PPC is 520mhz with 128mb ram QVGA
I would greatly appreciate some help/nudge in the right direction.
Kind of duplicate thread of http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=323523
The process is probably the same as building a rom for a x50v, which is easier than doing it for an x51v as there is an issue for creating/modifying xip. However You can check if you can directly re-use x50v xip.
KINDA...helps
The thread helped alittle, pointed me to the tools. However, i still dont know if its possible and i dont want to try it and have the result of a bricked PDA.
I don't see why it would not be possible. You need to extract your nb0 to start, since you have it, you can always recover from a corrupted rom. I had already extract file from a x51 rom with success using those tools. I don't have any x50, x51 device to try it. But I already modified several x51v rom using those tools to be able to fix the CF bug on Football A17 rom.
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Kind of duplicate thread of http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=323523
The process is probably the same as building a rom for a x50v, which is easier than doing it for an x51v as there is an issue for creating/modifying xip. However You can check if you can directly re-use x50v xip.
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Pretty close to a duplicate of another one of your threads, Compliance:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=324423
Hi
Well...
I tried to start up looking into the differences in the roms but i can't even open them
Ill try some more but i think it's just waist of time. U really need a good coder like football to do this...
Let's hope someone can do the magic for x50/x51 like he did with the v editions
By the way, isn't there a possibility to port a x51v to a x51 rom ?
As some people maybe aware, the WM6.1 roms for P3600i crash / reset themselves randomly because the file system on the phone eventually becomes corrupt (folders everywhere with funny char names like 'Z*&!![]') . WM6/Shaps rom seem to be ok.
I thus have a theory / possible work around
I was doing some comparing of file sizes / best guess between WM6 and WM6.1 dlls.
I had a list of file that were different sizes between them... googled them, then eliminated it all down to one maybe two dll's.
The most likley hack/fix would be
WM 6.1 imgfs.dll is 37kb
WM 6 imgfs.dll is 27kb
something about storage bug imgfs.dll here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...=298327&page=5
A dll not in WM6 is sdputil.dll 25kb. - but I dont think this is the problem dll.
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Here is my problem...
I have dumped shaps wm6 rom, but I could not find imgfs.dll !!!!!
is there something special about this dll as I see imgfs tools about but dont know what to do....
can someone please tell me the procedure on how to swap the dll's to test my theory?
or maybe do it for me and build a WM6.1 rom with the WM6 version of the imgfs.dll?
Thanks for any help!
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Sorry my english is very bad
imgfs.dll =>> this dll is included in all Rom
it is linked to Rom XIP file for cookers
Certainly related to the size of the memory.
IMGFS.dll is also linked to another file XIP
we need better change the XIP complete.for xip compatibility with p3600I.
Search ROM wm6.1 for p3600 compatibility with p3600I
extract xip for tools ervius or tools donald .folder ROM=>> (os.nb) and (XIP)=>>into xip IMGFS.DLL and other dll ans other file sytem for boot .....
if you get dll IMGFS.ddl to put it in a more rescent XIP for Rom 6.1. it will make a g'reloc or m'reloc (misar tool) to recalculate the memory address
I suppose .... Your solution is too simple to be?
sent a mail or a Schaps or abebacar or ervius or Nikitto ..(master cooker)
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Thanks for advice, but I dont know what I am doing...
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any cookers who can do the swap?
bump anyone?
hi
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=399827
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=399779
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=320338
1 link info and tools
2 link roms 6.1
3 link kitchen donald tuto and tools for noob cooker
good luck
basically you can't have a rom work for both p3600 and p3600i and have it be stable. For p3600i roms to work well, it has to be cooked with p3600i OEMXIP and OEMDrivers. All roms out there use p3600 OEMXIP, I believe, but haven't checked all to be sure.
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You seem to know what you are talking about.... are you able to lend us a hand????
oggi1969 has posted some help, but I just dont know what I am doing / havent found the time to read everything.
Schaps WM6 rom was very stable - so I'm guessing it is the jump from WM6.1 that has cause the issue.
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You seem to know what you are talking about.... are you able to lend us a hand????
oggi1969 has posted some help, but I just dont know what I am doing / havent found the time to read everything.
Schaps WM6 rom was very stable - so I'm guessing it is the jump from WM6.1 that has cause the issue.
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does p3600i come with wm5 or wm6?
as for p3600 it comes with wm5 and there's no "genuine" oemdrivers & oemapps for the p3600, but only adapted ones...
ie oem from bepes or adw kitchen is not video call enabled..
ok.. whatever
have you already taken a look at the 3d by joncgde2? he tells, that the newer cooked roms are pretty stable on the i (209xx and above)
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You seem to know what you are talking about.... are you able to lend us a hand????
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Don't have a trinity anymore to do this. But for any cooks out there. Don't know how important OEMdrivers is for stability, but I'm sure it'd help as the p3600i does have slightly different hardware. But for sure OEMXip is important. Use the p3600i xip when porting XIP to something newer for p3600i roms. This would mean when cooking you'd have a different os.nb.payload for p3600i and p3600.
bump any cooker?
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bump any cooker?
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well.. here's something new i want to throw into:
imgfs.dll is responsible for accessing the imgfs file system ... imgfs is readonly
if you change something in your devices file system, the responsible dll is fatfsd.dll - so we might also look here.. to get really sure i'd like to extract this from a p3600i stock rom .. then i would cook it into a light rom and you get it to test
Sweet!!!
Let me know how you go.
And a BIG thank you.
BTW: I think the fatfsd.dll file was the same size for WM 6 and WM 6.1 - thus why I did not think it was this dll.
As some one mentioned before, these dll are read only cause they are core files, so you have to do some complex procedure which I have no clue how to do....
there is a offical release rom upgrade for samsung i907, it is a exe file.
杖剑天涯 from xbeta tried it , and get the nb0. I have get the dump files.
Just use a file osnbtool.exe, which is wrritten by Weisun from pdaclan.com.
Rename the exe a simple short name like Samsung.exe
then run the following in DOS mode.
osnbtool -sp Samsung.exe
osnbtool -sp Samsung.exe.BIN.NB0
osnbtool -d Samsung.exe.BIN.NB0.OS.NB 1 xip.bin
osnbtool -d Samsung.exe.BIN.NB0.OS.NB 2 imgfs.bin
the rest work is just kitchen work.
the next thing is build and test it.
flash the rom is another difficulty. the pda part could be flashed separately would be better , just like the i617.
BTW: osnbtool is a so powerful tool. I hope more people can use it. and it is from China.
Is it WM61 or WM65?
wm6.1 20276. of course you can port to wm6.5 , if it can be flashed to the device.
laronz said:
wm6.1 20276. of course you can port to wm6.5 , if it can be flashed to the device.
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Ah damn still WM61.. I wanted the OEM part to fix the mouse bug under WM65
can you post a link to the rom upgrade ?
That's it: https://techtrain.samsungwireless.c...t_i907/Samsung EPIX_Multipatch_ID1_For_XP.zip
Sweet! Sounds like there's finally some progress in the Epix updating. It's got a lot of potential. Hopefully the chefs out there can make use of this and get something lean and mean cooking.
Thanks for your help!
this is awesome news.. finally a step forward hope the chefs are hard at work its always appreciated
YAY!
progress!!!! finally... so how would that be ported to a wm6.5 rom? ima noob with this stuff
...I'd try but I would need the actual phone Any Epix users from EU here?
Epix USA user here, ready to help if needed
I also am a USA epix user
I can get Mirage builds for 6.501 and 7.0 Alpha. Unfortunately I have an I907 and I know very little about cooking.
pidsw said:
I can get Mirage builds for 6.501 and 7.0 Alpha. Unfortunately I have an I907 and I know very little about cooking.
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Any chance you could share either of the two?
USA user here if you need help.
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Seriously, let's get cracking on this.
for real, right now i dont care if i brick my phone im so tired of the dum att rom... plus i got insurance
if i knew how to cook i would be on this in a heartbeat (probably cause i own the epix and think its great outside the att crap)..
Anyone willing to atleast get the cooking started maybe for a bit of $?
theres gotta be somebody out there who can cook this...
well doesnt seem like there is to much interest in this.. that sucks
I'm not sure if this should be in Trinity forum, but have just read online ...
the Hermes (Tytn) is nearly identical to the Trinity/M700 apart from the GPS, which is a function of the Radio ROM anyway, not the main ROM.
which lead me to think ...
would it be feasable to flash a Hermes rom onto a Trinity, then flash a radio on after ?
just a hyperthetical Q really as the telly is rubbish tonight.
Very very very bad tho.... you would never try to make it... yes are almost identical but we have qwerty hardware... think about drivers and kernel... so now is not so identical... ask to kane159 i made a kitchen for him at trinity the only thing i could share to him was the wincenls dsm...
thanks for that .....
as I said, just a wild thought, based on lack of knowledge !