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Cingular Customers: Which radio gives you the best ...

Hi all,
I'm looking to hear from people who are running WM6 Preferably on the US Cingular network.
I've read that 1.38 gives the best mix of battery and phone function.
To me, having a usable phone that doesn't drop calls but also does not suck down the battery in a day is the most optimum choice.
I am currently running 1.41 Radio, (I'm a sucker for anything new) and my battery seems to not last like it used to. I have an 8525/Hermes
Although it is my own personal phone, I do use it alot for work and can't afford to be dropping calls. I don't have anything against testing different radio versions, but was looking for people to share their experiences.
The list I have found of available Radio Roms is as follows.
1.07.0310
1.27.00.00
1.35.00.11
1.38.00.10
1.38.00.11
1.38.30.10
1.40.30.00
1.41.00.10

well mate... I have 1.41 and I must admit, that I am really impressed... Third day after flash and still 40% of batt. with normal use... (usually 2 days at most)
to early to judge though, but I am 100% sure it's better than on generic t-mob radio.
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1.40.30.00 is best for me.
I had 1.41 release, but it was not as stable at holding signal.
You should make this a poll.

1.38 on Black 1.2 and I'm a happy camper.

I had 1.38 and switched to 1.40.30.00. My battery life is MUCH better. I have a cingular 8525.

Thanks to all so far for the replies. I have added the list of available Hermes roms to my first post. I did this after creating a Poll that was quite limited. Does anyone know how to change the Poll once it was created?

For me, 1.40 is more stable than 1.41 ... on 1.41 in (oakland, ca) I was having dropped calls on the transistion from 3G to GSM ... my perception is that 1.40 handles the transistion better.

1.40, I went almost two full days and only dropped to 30%. Im active with email/txt and light web browsing.

CUSTEL had written that he had gotten the best life from 1.34. I went to that from 1.41 and the battery life is much better.

it helps if you list all of the radios in the poll..... 1.34

I updated from the 140 to the 141 radio and I do not notice any difference in battery life but I do notice that I have better reception and places that I would drop calls at now I do not lose any. .... I do not know if it is a radio issue or not but my Wi-Fi takes forever, as when I was running the 140 it was fine, I have changed 3 roms times while running the 140 and 2 times with the 141 and noticed the Wi-Fi problem with 141 and running 2.5 but I never use it and have an unlimited plan with cingular so it does not matter to me.

tons of issues on 1.41 for me. I had 1.40 but i guess i d/led one of the wrong custom rom packages and jsut checked and i got 1.41. Sigal cuts in an out horribly. And my net connections always drops. modem disconnected errors on connecting, Going back to 1.40 to ensure that was the root of my problem

no issues here so far on 1.41.. when loading a radio on put the radio on 1st then put your new OS on there it makes it work better

this poll sucks...

CUSTEL said:
this poll sucks...
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hahaha, actually this thread might be the first good thing (in my perspective) that a noobs done since they stopped peeing against the wind.
I first started noticing dropped calls on 1.40.30, so i'm just enjoying this. People are giving 1.41 the royal blessing and others are bashing it to hell. I'm about to update to 1.41 to see if it helps me out. If it doesn't get my royal blessing then i'm going back to 1.38
No ofense TBCOMP! you may not be a noob, but its a noobish post.

Hehehe. @custel
I want to change my vote! I voated 1.41, but i'm reverting back to 1.40. or even 1.38.

You don't have 1.34 on your list, but that's what I'm using. I've been using it since day one. Don't fix what ain't broke, I always say.
I used push-mail with WM5 and had ****ty battery life (around 30-40% at the end of the day), but if I don't use push-mail (and I'm using WM6 - Custel 1.2), I am still at 90% by the end of the workday.
.:Christian:.

Cingular User & 1.41
I've been using 1.41 since it was first posted on this site and I haven't had a single problem. Calls are clear, never dropped, Internet / downloads are fast and stable.
I think the problems people are having involve the locations they're using their phones. I'm in Philadelphia PA and this city and surrounding area is wired for Cingular 3G.
http://www.cingular.com/coverageviewer/
Maybe the newer radio is for newly wired areas?

1.40.30 for me in the Austin, TX area. 1.38 just plain sucked for battery life - I don't think you'll find anyone here who had a good experience with that one and battery. 1.40.30 was a dramatic improvement.
1.41 had more of a problem holding a connection for me in NW Austin. YMMV.

CUSTEL said:
this poll sucks...
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Thanks for the great and constructive feedback. If you had read from the beginning, (I've since added to the first post though) I listed only the radio roms that are in the poll, I then found the full listing of the roms that are available for the hermes devices. I also posted, for anyone to answer, how to modify the items in the poll as it is not blaringly obvious to me. I'd be more than happy to add all of the radios to the poll but can't quite figure out how... Thanks.
I apologize and feel bad for feeling like this post is harsh, but if I hadn't seen your name above the post, and recognized your sig, I'd have thought that came from someone who just stumbled upon the boards, Not from the one who's ROM I am currently running.
fone_fanatic said:
hahaha, actually this thread might be the first good thing (in my perspective) that a noobs done since they stopped peeing against the wind.
I first started noticing dropped calls on 1.40.30, so i'm just enjoying this. People are giving 1.41 the royal blessing and others are bashing it to hell. I'm about to update to 1.41 to see if it helps me out. If it doesn't get my royal blessing then i'm going back to 1.38
No ofense TBCOMP! you may not be a noob, but its a noobish post.
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May be a noobish post, but to aggregate everyone's different opinions on the topic from all of the existing threads is not easy. It makes it even harder when the questions asked/ statements about the topic are usually burried on page 44 of a rom posting thread are sometimes hard to get back to. I didn't state in my first post, I'd be willing to try the ones that people suggest as I have to try to find the time to flash. let alone get stuck with a bad radio rom for a few days in a row if I can't get back to flashing it sometime soon.
Now, does anyone know how to change the poll options once the poll has been created?

PLEASE HELP Cingular 8525 and radio reset issues

I have a Cingular 8525 that is almost great. The signal strength is consistently at no less than 3bars but usually at 4 bars; but when I try to make a call, sometimes it goes through, other times it reads operation failed...which in the latter case is immediately followed by the signal completely disappearing and searching. It will reconnect and then allow me to place calls immediately afterwards. I also have been receiving alot of voicemails with no missed/received calls, as well as a lot of people saying that my phone rings and rings. (I of course do not receive all of my calls). This is really irritating....I've tried different roms (WM5/WM6) as well as at least half a dozen different radio roms also. I got the phone off of ebay it says that it is unlocked (could this have something to do with it?) B/c I got it off of ebay it interferes with the cingular warranty. ANY helpful suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Cingy 8525 from eBay...
The fact that you received the phone from eBay has nothing to do with your issues... I am not the most knowledgeable person here, but I have had my fair share of bad reception... Have you tried flashing the Cingy Rom? It comes with the stock 1.40 radio... I have a TyTn that I received off of eBay with Cingy service and I have had the best performance with the 1.40 radio.. Of course, it also has to do with your location, etc... You haven't mentioned which roms you have tried and what problems you have experienced other than failing radio strength and missed calls... Granted, that is enough... Post your info from the device information applet in your 8525 and give us more information about your 8525... maybe then, some of the more senior and smarter peeps can help you out...
Or, you can always use the link in my signature to do a more thorough search of the forum... your answer is bound to be here somewhere...

Thanks for the quick reply. From my understanding by me purchasing on ebay it has something to do with a the warranty (should I want to go through an exchange through cingular).
(I knew I was forgetting something) My device information is as follows:
(currently WM5, I just wanted to see if it would help at all)
Rom Version : 1.34.502.1
Rom Date: 09/21/06
Radio Version: 1.40.30.00
Protocol version: 32.73.7020.16H
As far as the roms go, I have no other issues besides the radio. But I've tried, the latest 2 Cingular stocks as of today, Custel 2.5/2.0, Black 3.0 and 2, LVSW 3.3, the all have their own pro's/con's but thats another issue. I'd throw whatever works on here if I can get a properly working radio.
I have searched and seen other forums regarding this issue, but none have released a solution. Radios 1.34 and 1.40 work best, but the problem is still there unfortunately.

Hmmmm... Okay, well the radio rom is the important part... have you tried the 1.41 radio? I see that you are running a lower version of the Cingy Official Released Rom.... Currently at 2.5 something I think... if you search for Radio Rom 1.41 you should be able to find it... At this point, I would think that it may be a combination of items, but am sure that if one radio sux, then try another one... just be careful... since you are already flashing roms, I guess I don't have to tell you that...

radio problems with 8525
Yeah I tried 1.41, didnt work too well for me. I am comfortable flashing, my old siemens sx66 has been flashed more than bourbon st. I did try to latest cingular official, (which is where I got the 1.40 radio from).

afaik 140.30.00 is the cingular tuned radio ROM. it should work best. As far as ROM's go, it should not really influence the phone functions. imo, lvsw latest ROM is as stable as they get anyway.
Try setting your network type to GSM only, and set the band to your local frequency. what you describe often happens when the phone switches between GSM & WCDMA.

Ill try it, im guessing it (gsm selection) can be done through settings? Does this occur even if the phone is in the same room while it occurs?

Good point, I would not have thought of that since I leave mine on Auto all of the time... I had forgotten that I had similar issues with the 1.38 radio...

ajmoncrief said:
Ill try it, im guessing it (gsm selection) can be done through settings? Does this occur even if the phone is in the same room while it occurs?
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start>settings>phone>band

I have that same issue with my reception in Memphis, Tennessee. It only happens once or twice a day though. The way it was explained to me by Cingular is that "yes you do have great reception. But when the phone tries to call, there is not enough bandwidth to complete the call." The gist of the matter was that too many other people were clogging up the airwaves. Not sure if that was bull**** or not, but that is what I was told.
I just know that it will happen between 3 and 5 pm, when more people are on the phone while driving home. I think they put more towers up as it hasn;t happened in the past week or so.
Also, the warranty is given with the PHONE not to the BUYER. The warranty should be good no matter where you bought it or who you bought it from. That is for factory warranties, not extra warranties or service agreements.
Hope this helps,
Jim

The most common cause of this problem is that fact that you are in Edge and not 3G.. The problem is most likely being caused by the fact that a data connection while in Edge is connected, this can cause dialing issues and phone calls not being recieved.. This problem has gotten better with the latest cingy rom and 1.40 radio that is packaged with it.. what you are experiencing is normal, or has been for me in the cingy/att world, it has happened with both the hermes and wizard..

All great suggestions, I did notice the occurence has dropped when I turned off my data connection. However, even with selecting GSM only and the other suggestions, I unfortunately still experience this problem. I guess my concern now shifts to is this a problem with my phone or not. By that I mean, would swapping phones have any effect on this occurence. (Anybody in the Charleston, WV area?...yea right) NEways, I have 3 cell phones in my family talk plan, and this 8525 is my 3rd or 4th phone on this one line in the last 12 months, I did not experience this with ANY of my other phones, so I know that it is not an issue regarding bottlenecked towers...which I have experienced before in another state.

Just an FYI. My first 8525 exhibited this same behaviour. I found NO solution to it and had to do the exchange via Cing which unfourtunately is not an option here...
Hard resets, radios, nothing fixed the issue. It steadily degraded and I had to do the return.
Now on a side note I did drop the phone once. It was about a 10 inch fall onto our concrete garage floor. The phone showed no damage AT ALL, but shortly there after the radio started acting up. It seem that perhaps the SIM did not sit tightly in the holder and as the phone was used the cover pushed on the battery which might have push on the SIM.
Take a look at how tight the SIM card is making contact. If it is loose and can wiggle freely you may want to try to tighten it up a bit VERY carefully!!!!
Sorry I can't offer a more permanent fix or precise problem!!

Just an update, I never could get the problem fixed (as I had expected). Luckily, however, I was able to keep calling Cingulars warranty department and got ahold of someone who did agree that the warranty follows the phone irrespective of where I got it. Luckily the person who told me that I couldnt do am xchange didn't note in on the system, so that prevented future reps being "tainted". So I am currently running Black Dymond very happily on my now working 8525. Thanks to all for the suggestions, maybe someone buying from eBay later will take heed to be sure to get a phone under warranty and to be persistent! =) Did I mention VERY happily running wm6?

STABLE Radio ROM for WM6 ???

Hello, I just upgraded to official ROM 3.54.255.3 with Radio 1.48.00.10. It was absolutely useless. Phone was freezing very often, calls were lost in couple of seconds, but the timer continued to count and all looked like the call continues. It was not possible to finish it by red button or “End” button on display, just by Soft Reset.
I upgraded just Radio to 1.51.00.10. It’s better but still bad. I’m loosing calls, sometimes Internet connections falls down stating that modem was disconnected and than phone searches for signal again. Sometimes after reset Phone part doesn’t start and doesn’t require PIN. It’s necessary to reset couple of times or to remove battery and switch it on again.
Could someone please recommend me proved version of Radio ROM? I’m using in Czech Republic for O2 (former Eurotel) network.
Is it possible, that it’s HW problem? My TyNT felt down on the floor couple of times
THANK YOU ALL A LOT IN ADVANCE

TYTN in Serbia - same GSM radio problems!
Please is there any known stable version that works in third world countries?
TYTN is almost completely uselell with 1.41 radio in Serbia!
Even if it is old rom no problem! I'm willing to go back to wm5 if needed just to have good and stable GSM!
Is there any app capable of testing htc radio to see if it is hardware flow?
Please HELP!

i have the oficial rom instaled in english and everything works fine more faster and more stable

Downgraded radio to 1.47.00.10 yesterday evening, looks better, will post results this evening.

1.47.00.10 is what i've downgraded to.
1.50 and 1.48 were absolute crap for me in California.

1.47.00.10 is a great radio! no complaints at all so far

This discussion is useless - best radio depends on local network you are using. For me the best still is 1.38 (Plus GSM in Poland), but I know that in Era GSM people have no problem with 1.51.
So the best is to try all available version and check, which one works best in given country, network and region, not to mention if we are using GSM or 3G.

crap radios
Same problems with these radio and O2 in CZ

So I was testing 1.47.00.10 whole day. Another disaster, on the beginning of the they everything was fine, with every call received the behavior of TyNT was worst and worst. Sometimes SMS were send after second try. On the end of the day I was not able to receive calls not even leave them unanswered – every time TyNT frozes. After Soft Reset the booting white screen was showing NO GSM…
After Hard Reset everything works OK again, but I really do not want HR on daily basis So trying to find another Radio ROM for CZ O2

Same problems with radio 1.51.00.10 - O2 in CZ

ok
1.50.08 work perfect for me.

tested 5-6 radio versions in Serbia NO LUCK
AT the end I hope that unit is bad and that replacement with other one will help
Is it posible to be due to rom since I also am getting message NO GSM during BOOT and before windows. It looks to me that radio on mine device might be in some hardware problem?
Any suggestions?

Just uploaded 1.38.30.10. As always looks and works perfectly on beginning

i put RUU_Hermes_CINGULAR_WWE_2.15.502.3_6275_1.40.30.00_108_Ship.exe ftom america.htc i think. it is complete rom with radio 1.40.30 and works best so far in seerbia but still with problems. At least it doesn't freez phone like other versions!

So tried 1.38.30.10, doesn‘t work as well. I changed ROM to Schaps_WM6Pro_WWE_3.57a_Lite_28-07.exe. Looks fine, but together with 1.38.30.10 doesn’t work. Upgraded Radio ROM to 1.50.00.00 which looks fine together, but still sometimes phone indicates “NO GSM”. Will test again during the day. If it will not work, it’s time to send it to service.
I’m already starting to looking forward to Nokia N95 that I will bought after loosing patience with TyNT.

tytn damaged
I would like to conclude that in my own opinion we are both stuc with bad units. Today i took another tytn and tested it with network in serbia and it worked fine. So changing rom doesn't help me. I have no option but to give it to be repaired.
Nokia is nice but it is different story if you ask me
HTC and windows is my choice!
Do yu thinking about changing radio on it (hardware)
All the best!

Ok
1.50.008 work excellent in my AT&T 8525 Hermes!!

IT LOOKS LIKE MY STORY HAS UNBELIAVEBLE HAPPY END which makes it may be most stupid story on this web. After trying 2 different ROMs and 6 different Radio ROMs I lost my patience and decided to go to service of HTC. So I exported most important contacts and uploaded them to my old Nokia 6280. In the morning I needed to send 2 SMSes and make one call. During this my NOKIA without any „smart“ OS restarted 2 times searching for signal. This phone was never problematic a never did that. So it indicated possible problem with SIM card. I went to O2 store and asked for new SIM. I got it in 5 minutes for free including switching all systems to new one. From this moment TyTN flashed to Official WM6 ROM 3.54 with radio 1.48.00.10 works without any problem and any single soft reset. I’m connected on 3G (UMTS/HSDPA) whole day and I lost connection only three times, but without problem to establish it again. I still expect, that the problem will come, but more it’s seems like that only problem was SIM card. The phone is more stable then ever before, so probably I had in some way corrupted SIM from beginning with O2… I will inform, if it keeps working.

Good for you
Me unfortunately, i wasn't that lucky. I replaced sim with new one 7 days ago and it didn't help
Enyoy your HTC!

150.00.00 and 148.00.00 works great in around Phoenix area AT&T

T-mobile HTC TP2 Phone Problem: data connection on and off

I am the (otherwise) happy owner of a Tmobile Touch Pro 2 running the official WM 6.5 update. The phone has been running fine since I purchased it last September.
Last week, the phone started behaving strangely and I fear that something might be wrong hardware-wise.
The phone loses connection (both phone and data) periodically, especially if I am moving around. Sometimes, if I soft-reset the phone, it will connect again. For example, I walk half a mile, the phone looses connection, sometimes looks like is trying to re-connect, sometimes it even shows the connection symbol (without the E or 3G superscript) but it will not make/receive calls nor navigate the internet. as I said, sometimes a soft-reset will regain connection.
Originally, I thought that it might be a problem with the coverage in the NYC area and northern suburbs. But my wife's Tmo G1 runs perfectly under the same conditions.
I have done, everything I could think of, including performing a hard reset a few days ago. Should I just take it to assistance? Is this a known problem? Does it sound like a problem with the sim-card? Any settings that I can try?
I would appreciate any help/suggestion. I hope that I did not post this in the wrong forum, in which case I apologize.
Thanks everybody

italdream said:
I am the (otherwise) happy owner of a Tmobile Touch Pro 2 running the official WM 6.5 update. The phone has been running fine since I purchased it last September.
Last week, the phone started behaving strangely and I fear that something might be wrong hardware-wise.
The phone loses connection (both phone and data) periodically, especially if I am moving around. Sometimes, if I soft-reset the phone, it will connect again. For example, I walk half a mile, the phone looses connection, sometimes looks like is trying to re-connect, sometimes it even shows the connection symbol (without the E or 3G superscript) but it will not make/receive calls nor navigate the internet. as I said, sometimes a soft-reset will regain connection.
Originally, I thought that it might be a problem with the coverage in the NYC area and northern suburbs. But my wife's Tmo G1 runs perfectly under the same conditions.
I have done, everything I could think of, including performing a hard reset a few days ago. Should I just take it to assistance? Is this a known problem? Does it sound like a problem with the sim-card? Any settings that I can try?
I would appreciate any help/suggestion. I hope that I did not post this in the wrong forum, in which case I apologize.
Thanks everybody
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The 6.5 ROM from T-mobile uses a different radio than the 6.1 ROM you had before, and the reception can be affected as a result...some users have reported that it makes it better, some have reported that it makes it worse.
You have the ability to switch the radio back to the 6.1 version, or several others that are available as well. Instructions, along with a list of available radios is on THIS thread.
The radio that's in your 6.5 ROM is the one on that list that ends in .57
The one that was in your 6.1 ROM is the one that ends in .14
I've heard that other T-mobile users have had luck in CA with the one that ends in .17
Read the instructions there thoroughly, then read 'em again
Good luck!

Thanks Sirphunkee.
This is great advice. Yet I have never flashed a ROM and the risk would be too high to transform my rhodium into an expensive paperweight.
I guess I will have to live with this problem at least until I am eligible for a phone upgrade, which would reduce the injury in case of a fatal outcome. ;(
If any remedy ever becomes available in the form of an idiot-proof .cab, I'd be glad if someone give me a head-up.
Thank you very much again

I have managed to revert the radio ROM to its prior version (ending in .14)
It looks like things are back to normal. One more question, the list of the Rhodium radio ROMs indicates in parentheses that some ROMs are T-Mobile, other HTC etc..
Does it mean that
1. those listed as Tmobile ROMs are stock Tmobile radio roms? OR that
2. those are the only ROMs that will work on Tmobile RHodium?
OR all of the above.
I would like to try some other radio ROMS to see if reception can be further improved but would not want to make damages installing the wrong one.
Thanks,

Best Radio for T-Mobile UK

Hello folks,
I know this is one of the most repetitive questions asked in this forum but mine is slightly different. I read many posts which says you have to test all the radios yourself and decide what suits you. I am running AOSP GB ROM.
I tried the latest 27.03 then went to 5.14.05.17, both seemed good and I was having good coverage for mobile/GPS. But the main problem is when I want to use 3G for mobile browsing. I see full coverage, H and everything, but when I try to browse something, nothing happens, its like no data is sent/received...It'll stay like that for few seconds sometimes a minute too and then does send/receive which annoys me a lot and prefer a consistent 2G connection which works 100% even though its slow. It happens quite regularly. This is irrespective of which ROM I use so it may be to do with -
a. Radio
b. Phone
c. T-Mobile UK
Btw, I am on "unlimited" data plan.
So just want to know if there are any T-Mobile UK users who don't have this problem and would wish to know which radio suits best for them and then I may try that n see if that helps or infact anything to boost 3G data transfers ?
Help much appreciated.
Cheers,
RD

..... I will say what you said and a lot of people said. Try each radio to see which suits you the best.
If your still having issues (which you are) then give T-Mobile a call. They do diagnostic checks and everything so they will be able to help you out more than what we can.

i find 32.44.00.32U_5.09.05.30_2 seems to hold a constant H

Hey Thank you both for replying. John, I flashed the radio you said above and it is behaving good so far. Will test this throughout the day but initial impressions are definitely better.

i will definitely second that. i have been using 32.44.00.32U_5.09.05.30_2 for a long time on my Desire (TMobile) and its the best i have tried.

Is 32.44.00.32U_5.09.05.30_2 'compatible' with 2.3.3 Gingerbread ROMs?

I am so glad you have created this thread as I havn't got round to it. This problem is a constant pain in the ass, and is driving me nuts.
You have mentioned, if it was to do with 'T-Mobile UK' themselves as I believed it was. I've contacted numerous times regarding this matter but they hadn't a clue what I was on about and I presumed it was to do with the recent merge up with 'Orange UK' to create Everything Everywhere that I signed upto, so I had requested to opt out but they're demanding me to tell them what the reason and issue was, so I did, but they did not respect my decision of wanting to opt out, so I didn't take it any further. If you are signed to Everything Everywhere, then we may have something there...
So, I left that to be... until I investigated the other possibilities... I tried flashing other ROM'S but the problem kept persisting.
However, I have never discovered it could be to do with the 'Radio' I'm using, hopefully it is as it will be less of a hassle for myself and others alike.
I await a solution...;(

Anybody can help assist me? Thanks

sh500 said:
Is 32.44.00.32U_5.09.05.30_2 'compatible' with 2.3.3 Gingerbread ROMs?
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Sure is
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA Premium App

Would radio '5.17.05.23' fix this issue?

Deeco7 said:
Would radio '5.17.05.23' fix this issue?
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no radio is going to fix the issue, i've had that problem since i had the htc hero, tried all the radios, they all the same , can;t really see the difference .the same thing with the desire. what made it worse since the merged with orange.
the only good thing about orange , i get good reception indoors, good for making or receiving calls, no internet .
indoors wifi . oudoors hsdpa(t-mobile) when you a good signal is good . i wouldn't bother flashing more radios, it's t-mobile's **** coverage.
hope this helps

Thanks for your reply.
My first instincts was that is was to do with the Orange merger. If there is a slight improvement by flashing a different radio I would be grateful, if however as you say it makes no difference I'd leave the radio as it is.
It would be great if others can confirm/post a solution.
Thank you.