Hi All,
Long time viewer, first time poster.
Firstly would like to thank many of you for posting awsome information and providing a great deal of help to people like myself who rely on these places to get the infor required to really enjoy our PDA/Phones
Ok now to the problem
I have an XDA 2S with the latest Rom, i use it for business because of the WiFi and its ability to browse websites and support Putty
However since getting it i have had nothing but problems with using Bluetooth on it , i now have 6 different Bluetooth Brands ranging from Nokia, Ericsson, Blueant and Jabra and to date none have provided me with quality Bluetooth voice...... Well nothing like my Nokia or NEC mobile phones.
The issue i have is that voice is constantly breaking up, even when the phone is like 30cm away from the Bluetooth, i have tried everything but one thing!
And this is where i need to probe the wisdom of some of you
1. Is there a way to upgrade the Bluetooth Drivers on the phone? IF there is can some one direct me to either downloads, Litriture for reading or to any websites that talk about it.
2. Is there a way to upgrade the Bluetooth Firmware from version 1.1 to 1.2? The guy i was speaking with from O2 said that he has heard/seen people do it in some cases was successful and in other cases destroyed the phone to the point where a re-load had to be carried out.
Any infromation on this problem that others can share with me would be greatly appreciated, if anyone else is having this same problem please do share your experience with me and if any work arounds let me know
Mobile Spec's:
O2 XDA 2S
Firmware 1.40
Radio version 1.12
Bluetooth Headset = Nokia HS-26W
If i lack any information please let me know.
Thank you in advance
Cheers,
David.
if your bluetooth stack is not vidcomm do a search in the forum for vidcomm
it's generaly seen as a better stack then ms's one
Rudegar said:
if your bluetooth stack is not vidcomm do a search in the forum for vidcomm
it's generaly seen as a better stack then ms's one
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Thank you Rudegar i appreciate your assistance
Is there a way on my O2 that i can see what stack i have?
Once again thank you for your reply.
Cheers,
David.
Update: I have the BT 1.0.0.0 Build 3900 BT stack on my O2 XDA-2S not sure if the Update will work on my phone, dont really feel ike bricking it yet, so if anyone has had any measure of success with upgrading the BT stack on the same model phone i am interested to hear the reports.
donno if it looks like this it's vidcomm
http://www.geekzone.co.nz/content.asp?contentid=1477
Ok. After searching through the forums, and trying various things, I've finally given up...
The goal: To enable bluetooth DUN for WM6.
According to Microsoft, this feature was originally removed due to the thought that their 'Connection Sharing' feature was superior. Unfortunately, my TomTom 910 will ONLY connect via DUN. So, obviously I would like that 'feature' back!
Do any of the chefs out there have access to this feature, and can create a CAB to enable it on my 8525??
This would REALLY be appreciated. I'm sure I'm not the only one out here who misses this feature.
thanks.
I'm with you
Me too
I'm in the same boat. 8525 and 910. Would love a fix.
Kevin
Considering how the change was made to WM6, it is probably unlikely anyone would be able to bring back without issues. I think it is time TomTom start supporting WM6.
Not very hopeful
I asked this same question on the general forum just a couple of days ago.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=309996
Unfortunately, from Menneysys' answer it looks like Ipsi2000 is correct.
I think the options for us TomTom 910 users are:
1. Use duplicate sim and keep another phone in the car to connecto to TomTom
2. Pray and wait that one of the operators releases (or one of the chefs gets hold of) a version of WM6 for the Hermes with DUN back in there (since it will be an option at each operator's discretion)
3. Hope that TomTom upgrades the firmware to support BlueTooth PAN over ICS (That will happen just after hell freezes over. We'll probably have to buy the TomTom 920 or something...)
4. Flash our Hermes back to a pre AKU 3 WM5 ROM (Nooooooooooo!)
cuccureddu said:
I asked this same question on the general forum just a couple of days ago.
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I think the options for us TomTom 910 users are:
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2. Pray and wait that one of the operators releases (or one of the chefs gets hold of) a version of WM6 for the Hermes with DUN back in there (since it will be an option at each operator's discretion)
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I also miss DUN thingy (I have M$ BT stack on my toshiba with completely crippled/non functional PAN and don't really feel like experimenting with Widcomm BT stack right now). So, no GPRS/EDGE internet connection for me - I kind of got used to it with my old P910...
There is an idea though - I did a little digging in the BT services branch of WM6 registry and I've got an impression that DUN functionality is still there it's just has to be enabled via registry (dunno why I got so sure though). What you can try is to ask somebody with pre-AKU 3 wm5 device to dump the registry for you and compare Bluetooth branch (the part where it lists services) with your WM6 device.
It's just a hunch - if what you are saying about operators enabling DUN BT service at their discretion is true, then this trick could actually work out.
i have a spare hermes [Tmobile VarioII variant], i can dump you a copy of the registry just after a HR is you would like?
i can dump it via registry workshop if thats best for you?
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i have a spare hermes [Tmobile VarioII variant], i can dump you a copy of the registry just after a HR is you would like?
i can dump it via registry workshop if thats best for you?
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Yup, sounds great. If you can do just HKLM branch that should be enough. I have WM6 black - we can compare BT parts se if we can try to enable DUN back.
The worst part is that, according with MS blog, they DIDN'T remove BT DUN, they give it to the operators, and they can choose to add or not BT DUN to their ROM.
Just isn't in DEFAULT rom, is an option
So, somewere, the MS BT DUN should be available!
I love how because you use it, it automatically makes Bluetooth PAN useless.
It isn't.
It is MILES better than ****ty Bluetooth DUN. I use TomTom on an ancient Ipaq PDA, and even that supports PAN. Not only does it support it, its miles miles more stable. It doesn't require you to dial-up every time you go through a tunnel, or under a bridge, it just works.
I vote NO to bluetooth DUN (unless it can run alongside PAN)
Its TomTom you should be angry at, not MS or the operators!
I know, my car is miles away from my feet, but sometimes I need to go were only feet are allowed
The problem isn't what is better but why they removed BT DUN instead of leaving it..
I am a bad, bad, bad boy, but I believe there is some marketing strategy behind, like AS4.5 NEEDED for WM6 not working with outloook 2002, with NT...
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Yup, sounds great. If you can do just HKLM branch that should be enough. I have WM6 black - we can compare BT parts se if we can try to enable DUN back.
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al3xxx
Here you go,
sorry did the entire thing...
well i added the WM DUN reg keys to my Elf WM06 and its not enabled the DUN service... (not surprised, if it were that simple it would have been figured out weeks ago... So what's next?)
Microsoft saying they give the DUN to the operators sounds fishy. Let's face it, Microsoft would prefer everyone uses PAN (considering it provides all the features available in DUN and plus more). They basically said to the operators we will support PAN, however if you wish you can implement DUN but you will have support it yourself and any issues that may crop up due this implementation. Most operators would not want the additional support or issues that may come up due to them providing a deprecated function. PAN is the replacement for DUN and there is very little we could do about it.
Software vendors need to adopt PAN or it may not work with WM6.
clublander said:
I love how because you use it, it automatically makes Bluetooth PAN useless.
It isn't.
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I vote NO to bluetooth DUN (unless it can run alongside PAN)
Its TomTom you should be angry at, not MS or the operators!
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Yeah not MS, what made winxp BT stack PAN absolutely NOT working - tried bunch of BT devices with it - neither one was recognized as PAN capable... See if PAN on the phone (and PC) was working for me whan I was set in front of the fact that there is the ONLY choice MS gives me if I want to use my phone as wireless modem i wouldn't really get the DUN back...
al3xxx said:
Yeah not MS, what made winxp BT stack PAN absolutely NOT working - tried bunch of BT devices with it - neither one was recognized as PAN capable... See if PAN on the phone (and PC) was working for me whan I was set in front of the fact that there is the ONLY choice MS gives me if I want to use my phone as wireless modem i wouldn't really get the DUN back...
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Thats funny, I use my WM6 device with XP with no troubles.
I suggest you need computer lessons.
To re-iterate, TomTom is going to have to update THEIR Bluetooth stack, unfortunately. PAN is almost identical to DUN, it just has an interface on the phone now, whereas you had to do it all from your PC before. If you don't believe me that it's virtually identical, look in your WM6 registry. The PAN service is STILL CALLED "DIAL UP NETWORKING" in the registry. Furthermore, if you recall, when you pair your phone to your pc, the phone offers DUN as a service!! Do you see PAN in that service list? No... because it's DUN!! Same thing, folks.
All MS was shooting for was the ability to make it easier to dial up to the internet through the phone, not to mention, add the functionality to become a Network node. It's the same thing as buying a new pc these days that doesn't come with a dial up modem. Why not? Because it comes with a network adapter.
TomTom is going to have to update their stack to recognize this service.. not the other way around.
Stpete111,
I emailed Tom Tom about this today, and their attitude is as follows:
I told them I have a M3100 that their attitude was - we don't no support phones with WM 5 OR 6 especially NOT this device! But get this, they DO support the O2 XDA Mini S....so I don't think they understand that they are already supporting a WM5 device....
Anyway, there was no indication that they intend to change this, and I suspect that they won't.
So I suspect you'll have four choices:
1) Live without any phone when using you're TTG - not an option if you've already subscribed to one of their services.
2) Go back to WM5 - where it will work - far from ideal.
3) Get a spare phone that will work, and a duplicate sim - not that easy...
Or finally, 4) Invest in a device that's more current that WILL support WM6 devices.
Anyway, that's my thoughts - I've yet to make up my mind. But I'm not holding out any hope of TT changing their minds!!
Matt
Here's an update:
I have spoken with TomTom regarding this issue, and this is what I have found out. It's not really good news.
TomTom is phasing out the cell phone connection to their GPS units. All future units do NOT use cell phones to access traffic and weather info. They will ONLY use FM antenna for their data.
So, TomTom probably won't be updating their Bluetooth stack for us current-generation GPS owners. Their next generation ships in July.
Ideally, (for me at least), I would like to have BOTH DUN and PAN services on WM6. That way, for "older" devices, we still have connectivity, while at the same time, future devices can use PAN.
(just my .02c)
Has anyone tried Garmin products? I have tried two Garmin units but NOT with Bluetooth, so I don't know anything about their BT functionality. I DO know however that I much prefer the Garmin devices to TomTom's. Not trying to spark a debate here over which is better... but perhaps checking out Garmin's capabilities is a 5th option?
Hey all,
I've got a bit of a problem. Since the release of wm5 AKU 3.0, BT DUN is no longer present, instead we are supposed to use BT PAN. I read the articles in which microsoft explains why they removed it, and also that it is optional in WM6. I saw the .cab files in MUN's WM6 thread but I can't get them to work.
I use BT DUN to dial in to my domain with my VPN at the windows logon screen. BT PAN is about as useful as a frying pan in this case because I need to be logged in to connect BT PAN...I think they call that a conundrum
Anyway ever since I've had the trinity I have been using ICS with USB which does auto connect before logon. The thing is I prefer BT because it is just simply more convenient.
If anyone has a solution, either buy adding a working BT DUN profile or with BT PAN I'd really like to know about it.
Look here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=307235
I already read that thread but it's a no go
I also would really need the DUN Profile, but it does not work on mine too...
I just went and tried superdave's widcomm stack for the hermes, no joy though.
I'm running WM6 SE (not TE) and my DUN profile is flawless.
Use it from my TomTom 910, laptop and work PDA.
Wish PAN was supported by other devices so I could use all 3 at once.
what's WM6 SE?
and where can I get it?
Hi,
I upgraded my S621 to the new Rogers WM6. Things are great and so far so good....
However, today I just got the new TomTom Go 720 and in order for all of the data stuff to work (read my text messages to me, reply to text messages, use the traffic service etc) I require Bluetooth DUN.
Apparently this USED to be part of WM5 but Microsoft decided to pull it out in favour of Bluetooth PAN.
A lot of good this does me and the other TomTom users....... ARGH!
Is there a way I can setup BlueTooth DUN on this phone?
There have been rumours that it is in there or something can be added to make it work again...
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
Derek
This thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=314371
should help...specifically page 4...
I've been wracking my brain trying to figure this out. I'm trying to establish an internet connection through my tilt 2 from my other pda. When I pair I see the dial up networking option. When I connect, it seems to connect but it won't establish an internet connection and gets dropped.
I've used this method to connect to my old Nokia E62 so I know my pda is able to make these types of connections. I was wondering if it's there's a work around for allowing this. I'm using the Energy Rom Phoenix2 build 21876.
I've searched hi and low but doesn't seem anyone else has had this problem.
Anyone have any ideas on this?
If the other PDA has wifi then use the WIFI sharing..
I'll have to go that route. I was just hoping to save on battery consumption
Same problem for me on the Tilt 2 on e2ROM. My old Tilt with WM6.1 works with BT DUN but not WM6.5 I guess. But BT PAN does work great on e2ROM just not DUN.
wpbear said:
Same problem for me on the Tilt 2 on e2ROM. My old Tilt with WM6.1 works with BT DUN but not WM6.5 I guess. But BT PAN does work great on e2ROM just not DUN.
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It's not a wm6.5 issuse because I flashed a 6.1 ROM and I still had the same problem. I'm thinking it's a problem with the BT stack they're using.
ppa25 said:
It's not a wm6.5 issuse because I flashed a 6.1 ROM and I still had the same problem. I'm thinking it's a problem with the BT stack they're using.
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I gave up for now. I have finals to study for. Maybe I'll try again in a few weeks. If you get it then post it for everyone. Thank you.
Has anyone ever found a solution to this?
I'm trying to the same thing with a Trimble Survey Controller and my Tilt2. The survey specific software is written to only use a DUN for internet access in order to acquire NTRIP corrections.
What really sucks is that I can use Wifi to give the PDA Internet access as confirmed with PIE. But the survey software will not use the Wifi
if your wanting to do it over bluetooth set the dial as *#99# i belive to make the other pda do gprs and send the data back via bluetooth