key-board layout - 8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development

is there any way to get swedish key board set up? so i get al my blue chars on the rigth place?
/tanx

dr00pyd said:
is there any way to get swedish key board set up? so i get al my blue chars on the rigth place?
/tanx
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PLEASE MAKE THESE POSTS STOP. check the wiki. its is in there under registry settings.

The fixes on the wiky won't work (at least for italian)
If I set the keyboard language to italian my hardware keyboard begin to work but not in full
IE:
Before update blue+C gave ";" now gives ":" (as it should)
but blue+space (after a key, ie a vovel) don't make the previous letter change
FOR example..
With my previous rom if I type "a" and then blue+space my "a" was changed to "à" now this doesn't happen..
Moreover the software keyboard layout doesn't change.
Any hint on how to fix both?

LinoX said:
The fixes on the wiky won't work (at least for italian)
If I set the keyboard language to italian my hardware keyboard begin to work but not in full
IE:
Before update blue+C gave ";" now gives ":" (as it should)
but blue+space (after a key, ie a vovel) don't make the previous letter change
FOR example..
With my previous rom if I type "a" and then blue+space my "a" was changed to "à" now this doesn't happen..
Moreover the software keyboard layout doesn't change.
Any hint on how to fix both?
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No solution for the soft keyboard loayout, but for your "blue-space" problem, all you have to do is overwrite the file sym.0409.txt with one that fits your needs. You can edit it yourself, it's very simple: each line starts with the letter you want to get replaced, and then all letters that can replace it follow in the same line.
Cheers
Daniel

Many thanks tadzio
I'll update the wiki accordingly

I double checked my sym.0409.txt file...
It already contains everything I needed.
The problem for the BLUE+SPACE arose when I changed the code in the keyboard registry..
Before this change it worked but I had the problem on BLUE+C (";" instead of ":")
Any hints?

Since you likely changed the Hardware Keyboard to "20410" - try making a copy of the sym.0409.txt and rename it to sym.0410.txt. After I did this and soft-reset, it works as it should...
Hope that helps
Solomon
LinoX said:
I double checked my sym.0409.txt file...
It already contains everything I needed.
The problem for the BLUE+SPACE arose when I changed the code in the keyboard registry..
Before this change it worked but I had the problem on BLUE+C (";" instead of ":")
Any hints?
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solomonsmith said:
Since you likely changed the Hardware Keyboard to "20410" - try making a copy of the sym.0409.txt and rename it to sym.0410.txt. After I did this and soft-reset, it works as it should...
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It doesn't work..

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WM6 German Keyboard (Space to change a ->ä)

Help needed
Using VW6 (Vanilla) on a Germen Hermes. Hardware Keyboard works fine except the space key to change a -> ä, u ->è etc.
Does anybody solved this issue ?
Didn't found any solution on the forum.
Thx
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=279158
belinea said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=279158
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Thanks, but that's what i already tried
hi don't know if this work in wm6 ... i have made it in aku33 test (englisch too) and it works...
change the reg key in oem/qwerty to 3 at the end (dec.)
also look in the wiki there are more things explained...
futureshock said:
hi don't know if this work in wm6 ... i have made it in aku33 test (englisch too) and it works...
change the reg key in oem/qwerty to 3 at the end (dec.)
also look in the wiki there are more things explained...
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Already tried, also followed the wiki.... Keyboard is OK. just the space key doesnt change to äöüéàè
You can try to duplicate the file sym.0409.txt in the windows folder and name this new file sym.0407.txt. It worked for me for the french keyboard (sym.040C.txt in french).
What Atmis said, I simply modified the sym.0409.txt file in /Windows so I easily could type Swedish characters such as å,ä & ö with a/o + space. You need to copy it over to your computer with active sync, edit the file then move it back.
shandar said:
What Atmis said, I simply modified the sym.0409.txt file in /Windows so I easily could type Swedish characters such as å,ä & ö with a/o + space. You need to copy it over to your computer with active sync, edit the file then move it back.
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Already tried to copy the origional sym.409.txt to sym.407.txt (german) but when i press the "blue" space nothing happens.
You need to replace the sym.0409.txt file if your OS is in English.
shandar said:
You need to replace the sym.0409.txt file if your OS is in English.
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Actually i've 3 files (for testing) sym.0409.txt, sym.0407.txt, sym.txt and it does not work.
Having Hermes with QWERTZ keyboard (switzerland) and English WM6 (Vanilla)
That's interesting. I had the same issues when upgrading my device to AKU 3.3. After some changing forward backward between English and German Keyboard it suddenly worked.
I also upgraded a second device and I cannot get the space key working to change between the special letters.
I know it does not help but maybe it's an device bug. I will downgrade the device the other device when I can get it back again and see if it works with the original image.
It was working flawlessly for me, I just had to reboot the device after creating the new file.
Atmis said:
It was working flawlessly for me, I just had to reboot the device after creating the new file.
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... After HardReset, installing the "German Input Cab", modifiying sym.0409.txt and a reboot everything is working fine...
Probably some manipulation described in the wiki i made before installing the cab made the changes...
finally it works. thanks to all
Ehm. I am not trying to sound stupid or anything. but how do I find this"sym.409.txt"? I would like to change some of the keys into norwegian symbols like æ, ø and å.
I have just heard something about the root folder.
But in that case. where is it, I assume that I am just being blind or something but.
THanks for your help
ukon said:
Ehm. I am not trying to sound stupid or anything. but how do I find this"sym.409.txt"? I would like to change some of the keys into norwegian symbols like æ, ø and å.
I have just heard something about the root folder.
But in that case. where is it, I assume that I am just being blind or something but.
THanks for your help
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Not blind, the file is hidden, at least on my system with Josh Manulla2D.
To see the file in Windows, using File Explorer, click on "Menu/Show All Files".
My problem is that I have made changes for my German keyboard on an English language install, but I cannot replace the file in \Windows. All I get is an Access Denied message.
Anybody know how I can get past this to replace the sym.409.txt file?
Task Manager is installed so surely it must be some service that needs killing to free up the file.
Regards
Peter
Not sure what's the issue.
You might want to try solution from Josh
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3218396&postcount=774

Keyboard - please help on Scandinavian settings

Hep. Have been looking around the forum to find a way to change the keyboard layout (Hardware), to Danish.
I simply cant make it work. I have the Live 0.2 rom, and have tried the reg. editing as written in the forum..but no go.
Can someone please give a guide to which rom that I can use if I want a Danish Keyboard - or can someone do anything about the Keyboard issues. (Make some kind of a cab or??) I cannot do it myself, but would really be thankfull.
And - great thing with all this rom biz. I know nothing about it - but loves to jazz up my phone...hehehe
Greatings from Viking Land
Isnt that avalible in the extrom?
stinger32 said:
Isnt that avalible in the extrom?
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I dont know??
I'm using LVSW version and somehow every softreset reverts \oem\qwerty registry back to uk mapping, manual edit and/or nordic keymapping.cab is useless, it have to be something with LVSW version, because xda live was working with nordic cab...
kha said:
I'm using LVSW version and somehow every softreset reverts \oem\qwerty registry back to uk mapping, manual edit and/or nordic keymapping.cab is useless, it have to be something with LVSW version, because xda live was working with nordic cab...
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I have tried to change the registry, but i does not seem to do anything for me. I wonder if the settings somehow can be extracted from wm5?
Look at this post Norwegian Keyboard on WM 6?, it has the cab file for the keyboard attached, this is used for all nordic tytn.
I've just installed xdalive keyboard fix cab-> softreset -> nordic keymap cab -> softreset and now the mapping is correct!
kha said:
I've just installed xdalive keyboard fix cab-> softreset -> nordic keymap cab -> softreset and now the mapping is correct!
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HAHAHAAAAA - its working. Yaaahuuuuuuu. Lets get som ROMs.... I cannot tell you how glad this made me..
TyTn Rules - The King Of Phones
Go Chefs, Go - lets get som roooommmmsss
Where can I download xdalive keyboard fix cab and nordic keymap cab?
callahan said:
Where can I download xdalive keyboard fix cab and nordic keymap cab?
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I am wondering the same thing, have tried to search the forum with no luck
are there some who got the xdalive keyboard fix cab and nordic keymap cab?
when you guys find all the solutions to the mapping add them to the wiki, or pm me the list of fixes all nice and neat and i will put them on there
This works on XDA-Live & Black (at least)
Here's the one I use and it works on most of them anyways. Remember to soft reset afterwards.
Whenever I flash a new ROM or do a hard reset I just change the following ONE registry setting.
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Oem\Qwerty]
"Layout"=132116
Why not make a fix_my_qwerty_mapping.reg file and save this on your storage card, content like this (I have no idea how to make a .cab file, but this works fine for me):
Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Oem\Qwerty\]
"Layout"=dword:20414
This is the Norwegian settings, but it doesn't matter for Finnish, Swedish and Danish users - it's all the same mapping. I got a TyTN/Herm 200 and for all I know this could be firmware dependent.
The number "132116" is decimal and found by:
20+countrycode, country code for Norway: 0414. That will be 20414. Converting this hex to dec gives 132116.
(When using the .reg file it writes in hex and therefore 20414, but you can manually enter the number directly into the register using hex if you like.)
Country codes:
http://www.microsoft.com/globaldev/reference/winxp/xp-lcid.mspx
Remember to power down/up after applying this registry change - not just a stylus soft reset.
shadoefrizon said:
Here's the one I use and it works on most of them anyways. Remember to soft reset afterwards.
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Thanks man it worked on my HTC TyTn. No im typing in swedish
How do i get the æøå maped to a key so i don't need to go in to sym?
Shauge said:
How do i get the æøå maped to a key so i don't need to go in to sym?
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You have of course searched, found og tried:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Oem\Qwerty]
"Layout"="132116"
So then I dont know....
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_Registry
after running the cab file in this forum my h button is now a + when i am in contackts searching for a person?
Hi fellow Scandinavians.
Try these attached files.
They work perfectly in both WM5 and WM6.
Both should be installed on the device at the same time.
thx Torben schould i do a reset first now that the other things are ****ed up?
and how will i get the æøå maped to a key?

keymapping after flashing a foreign rom

i would like to flash my german treo 750 with the official uk WM6 rom and i was wondering how that will effect the keymapping.
i will then have of course an english rom but still the german keyboard layout. in the wiki i found the reg-key for the keyboard layout for different qwertz/qwerty/azerty layouts, but this string does not exist on the treo.
someone else mentioned it might be detected automatically.
do i need to worry or just give it a go? i REALLY NEED the correct mapping with all according symbols cause i am using the keyboard all the time.
ok, i got it working. there is no reg hack needed, everything just works like it should.
nehvada said:
ok, i got it working. there is no reg hack needed, everything just works like it should.
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Did u find a way to get the umlaute working right? For an -ä- I need to tap: alt, a, three times down.. the first choice is not the ä..

Japanese input/output windows moble 6

Does any one know how to get japanese input and output on the ATT 8525 and ATT 8925 (8925 running WM6, 8525 will be running WM6)? I currently have a free program that does this on WM5 but it doesn't want to work on WM6 (See Link). When I install it on WM6 it makes the keyboard not work.
http://forum.brighthand.com/showthread.php?t=217045
I tried this however it only has support for input, not output, which I need.
Any recommendations. Keep in mind I would like to stay on the free side of things. I'm cheep
For the Kaiser http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=333507
For the Hermes http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=298919
It is possible and free. Read read read!
Edit: Just read your thread. Looks like you are having trouble because it is a Kaiser, right? Check that Kaiser thread. One reg edit is all you need. Also, don't install that Bagoj stuff. Stick to the original WM5 input. It is running smooth on my WM6 Hermes.
i have the hermes. Thanks ill take a look.
Wow, you've got a Hermes and it is still messing up the keyboard!? Well, when and if you have trouble, I will be watching this thread.
yea the hermes doesn't have WM6 on it yet cause ATT hasn't released it. I have it working on it now but my testing with the TYTN 2 tells me that im going to run into this problem when i upgrade the phone.
pwnage said:
Does any one know how to get japanese input and output on the ATT 8525 and ATT 8925 (8925 running WM6, 8525 will be running WM6)? I currently have a free program that does this on WM5 but it doesn't want to work on WM6 (See Link). When I install it on WM6 it makes the keyboard not work.
http://forum.brighthand.com/showthread.php?t=217045
I tried this however it only has support for input, not output, which I need.
Any recommendations. Keep in mind I would like to stay on the free side of things. I'm cheep
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I build my own ROM with Japanese input/output using Pandora Kitchens with 3.62 ROM. I have made some packages for this with all files from Japanese WM5, not from any commercial third parties. If you are interested in it, I can send you a private message with the packages. Let me know.
thank you for the offer, however voiding the phones warranty of the phone is out of the question. The warranty is very important to the company that I work for.
If you can separate the Japanese input/output from the ROM that would be ok by me. One more thing the Japanese input/output needs to work on Windows Mobile 6, as i already have a program that dose this on WM5.
I have yet to try the previous suggestions. I will be trying these most likely tomorrow.
pwnage said:
thank you for the offer, however voiding the phones warranty of the phone is out of the question. The warranty is very important to the company that I work for.
If you can separate the Japanese input/output from the ROM that would be ok by me. One more thing the Japanese input/output needs to work on Windows Mobile 6, as i already have a program that dose this on WM5.
I have yet to try the previous suggestions. I will be trying these most likely tomorrow.
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there are a few things you have to do to implement east asian language functions on windows mobile. actually, you can do this without rom cooking.
1) you need to replace wince.nls in windows folder because it is only for western languages. however, it is a rom system file, and simple copy&paste does not make it work.
2) download reloadnls.exe and put it in \Windows\Startup. This makes the new wince.nls work properly. you can download reloadnls.exe from this link:http://www.geocities.jp/hou_ming_2/reloadnls.zip
3) you also need a Japanese font. (for example, msgothic.ac3 from japanese wm6 or windows xp) You can retrieve a font and wince.nls from this zip. http://x01ht.ratn-leaf.com/files/customizer/packages/Japanize_Tiny.zip
4) You also have to change the registry for viewing Japanese texts.
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\nls]
"LegacyLocaleMode"=dword:00000001
"DefaultLCID"=dword:00000411
"DefaultACP"=dword:000003a4
"DefaultOCP"=dword:000003a4
"SystemLCID"=dword:00000411
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\FontLink\SystemLink]
"MS PGothic"="\\windows\\tahoma.ttf,Tahoma"
"MS Gothic"="\\windows\\tahoma.ttf,Tahoma"
"MS UI Gothic"="\\windows\\tahoma.ttf,Tahoma"
"Courier New"="\\windows\\msgothic.ac3,MS UI Gothic"
"Tahoma"="\\windows\\msgothic.ac3,MS UI Gothic"
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\FontLink\SkipTable]
"Tahoma"="005c,00a5,007e,0391-03c9,2026,2116,221a,25a0-25ff"
"Courier New"="005c"
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\International]
"ACP"=dword:000003a4
"LCID"=dword:00000411
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\GDI]
"DisableFarEastWordBreak"=dword:00000000
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\International]
"Default_CodePage"=dword:c6f4
5) After soft rest, you can view Japanese text now.
6) To use MS Japanese IME, you need to copy following files into \Windows. You can find them in Japanese WM5 or you can download from here. http://x01ht.ratn-leaf.com/files/customizer/packages/MSIME.zip
hwxjpn.dll
imjp31.dll
imjp31dx.exe
imjp31k.dll
imjp31s.dic
imjp31s.grm
mboxjpn.96.dll
mboxjpn.dll
msimj.96.dll
msimj.dll
mskana.96.dll
mskana.dll
(You don't need to copy any files in the zip other than files listed above.
7) In the zip above, there are two registry files, defaul.txt and user.txt. Just import them using your favorite registry editor.
8) Soft reset, and you now have a Japanese input function (MS IME) installed in your hermes. However, there is no way to call this function from your keyboard since it is not a japanese keylayout.
9) To call MS IME, you need to assign this function to a key by freeware called PQz. http://1942.rocketspace.net/PQzII/PQzII_20070725_HTC_Hermes.cab
English manual: http://www.nicque.com/PQz/DOC/index_e.htm
Hope you will figure out the way!
Your post is helpful however I am unable to read Japanese. (wish I could) The geocities site you referred me to appears to throw an error but, again, since I cant read Japanese I cant be sure.
I'll give this a shot though
While I am sure qtotter's method works fine, there are easier ways. I myself have a WM6 tytn and get Japanese output/input simply by installing the following two .cabs.
Fonts and wince
http://www.asukal.jp/WM5/LetsJapanNo5.zip
Install and soft reset.
Input, fully accessable from the keyboard
http://hn801.hkes.com/Data/SIP/IME_31J_QVGA_F.zip
Install and soft reset.
You may run into troubles depending on which physical keyboard your tytn has, but these can be solved by a simple registry edit to the keyboard layout key.
larsuck said:
While I am sure qtotter's method works fine, there are easier ways. I myself have a WM6 tytn and get Japanese output/input simply by installing the following two .cabs.
Fonts and wince
http://www.asukal.jp/WM5/LetsJapanNo5.zip
Install and soft reset.
Input, fully accessable from the keyboard
http://hn801.hkes.com/Data/SIP/IME_31J_QVGA_F.zip
Install and soft reset.
You may run into troubles depending on which physical keyboard your tytn has, but these can be solved by a simple registry edit to the keyboard layout key.
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i know about LetsJapanNo5.zip, but did not introduce it since i am not sure if usemynls.exe included in the cab is freeware.
as for the ime part, i suppose IME_31J_QVGA_F.zip does exactly what i explained above automatically, and i recommend this way.
as for the keyboard part, if your device has a keyboard with non-japanese layout, you cannot call ime as i explained above since there is no key assign for this function by default. you still need PQzII to map ime function to a key on your keyboard.
qtotter said:
i know about LetsJapanNo5.zip, but did not introduce it since i am not sure if usemynls.exe included in the cab is freeware.
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Heh, heh. I'm not real sure about that myself, but I don't think Asukal would pull anything funny. AFAIK, he is on the level.
What exactly does usemynls.exe do? Does it redirect use of the wince file in Windows to another one? Cause you can just use TotalCommander (or whatever file explorer) to copy over the one in Windows and then do away with usemynls, no?
qtotter said:
as for the keyboard part, if your device has a keyboard with non-japanese layout, you cannot call ime as i explained above since there is no key assign for this function by default. you still need PQzII to map ime function to a key on your keyboard.
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You sure the tab key (or whatever is just left of the space bar) doesn't function this way if you let the ime cab do its work? What if you edit the registry thusly: [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Oem\Qwerty] "Layout"= 30411 (Hexadecimal base)
Looking at the X01HT and the 8525, the hardware looks exactly the same to me - same number of keys with the same placement.
qtotter, I have a X01HT, so I'll believe you if you say its so, but it just seems weird to me that HTC would make different hardware which looks the same. If you've never tried it yourself, then perhaps pwnage can be our guinea pig.
BTW, which Hermes rendition are you using, pwnage?
larsuck
Im a R-tard. I have a TYTN and a TYTN II.
Sorry about that.
larsuck said:
While I am sure qtotter's method works fine, there are easier ways. I myself have a WM6 tytn and get Japanese output/input simply by installing the following two .cabs.
Fonts and wince
http://www.asukal.jp/WM5/LetsJapanNo5.zip
Install and soft reset.
Input, fully accessable from the keyboard
http://hn801.hkes.com/Data/SIP/IME_31J_QVGA_F.zip
Install and soft reset.
You may run into troubles depending on which physical keyboard your tytn has, but these can be solved by a simple registry edit to the keyboard layout key.
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I tried this and the input seems to be fine however the keyboard refuses to work. I did try a few reg settings in the [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\keyboard layout\Preload\1]
Under the preload key I changed "(Default)" from e0010411 to e0010409 (the original reg value).
Under the preload\1 key I changed "(Default)" from ee0010411 to e0010409 (the original reg value).
Now when I switched the values from ee0010411 to e0010409 in both the Japanese input stopped working. When I changed them back they started working (no keyboard).
Am I inputing the wrong reg keys or what?
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Heh, heh. I'm not real sure about that myself, but I don't think Asukal would pull anything funny. AFAIK, he is on the level.
What exactly does usemynls.exe do? Does it redirect use of the wince file in Windows to another one? Cause you can just use TotalCommander (or whatever file explorer) to copy over the one in Windows and then do away with usemynls, no?
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i don't remember well, but i think usemynls.exe comes with ce star...
it ignores the original wince.nls and make the system refer to your own wince.nls stored somewhere else than /window. as i explain before, simple overwrite does not work with rom system files.
larsuck said:
You sure the tab key (or whatever is just left of the space bar) doesn't function this way if you let the ime cab do its work? What if you edit the registry thusly: [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Oem\Qwerty] "Layout"= 30411 (Hexadecimal base)
Looking at the X01HT and the 8525, the hardware looks exactly the same to me - same number of keys with the same placement.
qtotter, I have a X01HT, so I'll believe you if you say its so, but it just seems weird to me that HTC would make different hardware which looks the same. If you've never tried it yourself, then perhaps pwnage can be our guinea pig.
BTW, which Hermes rendition are you using, pwnage?
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there are many keyboard layouts. check blue silk-printed characters on the keys.
pwnage said:
I tried this and the input seems to be fine however the keyboard refuses to work. I did try a few reg settings in the [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\keyboard layout\Preload\1]
Under the preload key I changed "(Default)" from e0010411 to e0010409 (the original reg value).
Under the preload\1 key I changed "(Default)" from ee0010411 to e0010409 (the original reg value).
Now when I switched the values from ee0010411 to e0010409 in both the Japanese input stopped working. When I changed them back they started working (no keyboard).
Am I inputing the wrong reg keys or what?
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no, you are not doing anything wrong. LetsJapanNo5 forces keyboard layout change.
this is what i explained above. 10409 is for the english keyboard layout, and 10411 is for the japanese keyboard layout. since you are using an english keyboard, you need to keep the value 10409. however, it does not have a key assigned to ime call. you simply need to use PQzII to map this function to any key you want.
pwnage said:
I tried this and the input seems to be fine however the keyboard refuses to work. I did try a few reg settings in the [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\keyboard layout\Preload\1]
Under the preload key I changed "(Default)" from e0010411 to e0010409 (the original reg value).
Under the preload\1 key I changed "(Default)" from ee0010411 to e0010409 (the original reg value).
Now when I switched the values from ee0010411 to e0010409 in both the Japanese input stopped working. When I changed them back they started working (no keyboard).
Am I inputing the wrong reg keys or what?
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When you say the keyboard stopped working, do you mean that it just doesn't respond at all, no matter what buttons you press?
Is this on the Tytn or the TytnII?
If this is the TytnII, check this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=333507&page=2
That guy had problems with his keyboard AND buttons responding, but got everything working with the two .cab files I posted above with one regedit.
qtotter said:
there are many keyboard layouts. check blue silk-printed characters on the keys.
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Yeah, but isn't that just paint? I don't want to sound pendantic, but if the hardware below the paint is the same, then I don't see what the problem would be.
qtotter said:
it ignores the original wince.nls and make the system refer to your own wince.nls stored somewhere else than /window. as i explain before, simple overwrite does not work with rom system files.
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You can't use the File Explorer built into WM to overwrite system files, so I use GSFinder. Others use Total Commander. These can copy, delete, whatever to system files.
Anyway, now thanks to your info about usemynsl.exe, I have another 350kb or so free as I was able to overwrite my wince file in Windows (which allows .NET programs to function! YEAH!) and delete the usemynsl and the redundant wince in my Temp folder.
larsuck said:
Anyway, now thanks to your info about usemynsl.exe, I have another 350kb or so free as I was able to overwrite my wince file in Windows (which allows .NET programs to function! YEAH!) and delete the usemynsl and the redundant wince in my Temp folder.
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i am not saying you cannot copy and paste different rom system files to your device. even if you copy and paste another wince.nls, the system does not refer to the new wince.nls.
this is the reason why people use usemynsl.exe to force the system to refer to another wince.nls in a different location or reloadnls.exe to force the system to refer to the overwrote wince.nls in /windows.
if you wanna save disk space, i recommend you build your own rom burned with east asian wince.nls like i do.
qtotter said:
i am not saying you cannot copy and paste different rom system files to your device. even if you copy and paste another wince.nls, the system does not refer to the new wince.nls.
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Uh oh. So what did I do to my tytn?
I copied over the original wince in Windows with the one from LetsJapan in Temp.
I deleted the wince in Temp and moved usemynls so that it wouldn't run on startup.
Everything seems to be running smoothly, and I have soft reset (for other reasons) a few times between now and then...
No problems so far (its been a couple of days), but can I expect them?

Mapping keyboard keys for Hebrew (or any other language)

I found "AE Keyboard Mapper" extremely useful to make my TP2 keyboard produce Hebrew characters.
It first provides you with a simple utility to scan the keyboard for the code produced by a key (or key combination) press.
It then lets you update a config file to make each key code to a corresponding Unicode character code.
and thats about it.
I've used it to create a mapping of the keys to Hebrew but you can do it to any other language.
The attached contain two files:
1) "EA Keyboard Mapper" installation cab
2) Hebrew config file for TP2
First install "AE Keyboard Mapper"
Once the "AE Keyboard Mapper" is installed/
Place the Hebrew config file in the \Program Files\AEKMap directory
Run "AEKMap Settings" utility and select the new layout from the list
Reload AEKMap
Enjoy
P.S. As a few indicated I left a 2 inportent details out
1) The letter "ת" is mapped to the Envelope key on the bottom row.
2) Switching btween English and Hebrew - I have mapped CTRL+"." to do it but you can map you own switching combination with the AEKMapSettings app.
rbroudo said:
I found "AE Keyboard Mapper" extremely useful to make my TP2 keyboard produce Hebrew characters.
It first provides you with a simple utility to scan the keyboard for the code produced by a key (or key combination) press.
It then lets you update a config file to make each key code to a corresponding Unicode character code.
and thats about it.
I've used it to create a mapping of the keys to Hebrew but you can do it to any other language.
The attached contain two files:
1) "EA Keyboard Mapper" installation cab
2) Hebrew config file for TP2
First install "AE Keyboard Mapper"
Once the "AE Keyboard Mapper" is installed/
Place the Hebrew config file in the \Program Files\AEKMap directory
Run "AEKMap Settings" utility and select the new layout from the list
Reload AEKMap
Enjoy
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Hi thanks, it works great on my TP2 also
pitlon said:
Hi thanks, it works great on my TP2 also
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Glad to hear that.
I have PM to all those who created Hebrew for older devices to contact me and help me with creating a Hebrew support for the TP2 but no response so far
I think you have to remove the skin first
need some help, PDAC hebrew is driving me nuts !!!
need latest & most compatible free hebrew for TP2.
also latest heb for TF3D
please give me some links
Tourist! said:
need some help, PDAC hebrew is driving me nuts !!!
need latest & most compatible free hebrew for TP2.
also latest heb for TF3D
please give me some links
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I share your pain and hate to disappoint you but there is no free Hebrew that is compatible with TP2.
With that there is no Hebrew for the TF3D that works on TP2.
If only Ben-Yehuda knew what he is getting us into
To date PDAC is the only Hebrew that would run on TP2 but I had such a bad experience with it on my old TyTN that I wouldn't even consider installing it on my new TP2...
Eliezer would do it better...
anyway - Since I installed PDAC the "fun" key stopped FUNctioning.
do you know this problem ?
Tourist! said:
Eliezer would do it better...
anyway - Since I installed PDAC the "fun" key stopped FUNctioning.
do you know this problem ?
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Nope. Sorry.
I understood from his posts that Yuvvi is using PDAC you can PM him and see if he has an idea.
TheBundo said:
I think you have to remove the skin first
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I am not sure what skin you refer to but unless its Human (which make sense when it comes to Hebrew support) I am not interested in the skin i.e. TF3D
check this out:
http://www.pocketpcfreak.com/cgi-bi...malaya;action=display;num=1248001803;start=15
what do you think ?
Tourist! said:
check this out:
http://www.pocketpcfreak.com/cgi-bi...malaya;action=display;num=1248001803;start=15
what do you think ?
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We need to get one of the guys who did it before (avimak, nir36, alex2003 or the_dude) to give us directions on how to replicate their work on TP2.
These guys refuse to to help us..
I dont really know what the big deal is..
PDAC Hebrew is really slowing down the device =| It doesnt support the hardware keyboard as it is..
Eyron are supposed to release hebrew for our TP2 devices.. hope they do it soon.. =|
I don't really get what you guys are saying:
first, the link I posted IS for TP2 ! or did I miss something ?
second, I didn't get the part about these guys REFUSING to help.
please explain guys
I installed this method together with PDAC, It works great as I type the first 4 letters.. then it just doesnt work anymore =|
Yuuvi said:
I installed this method together with PDAC, It works great as I type the first 4 letters.. then it just doesnt work anymore =|
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you mean you tried the method in the link I posted and that's what happenned ?
naw, the original link rboundo posted =p
Yuuvi said:
naw, the original link rboundo posted =p
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so... who's the first to try...? (and than make a CAB file...)
Anyone have a cab for Taiwan Chinese Keyboard?
Looking to switch back to Taiwan Chinese keyboard. Haven't figured out AeKeyMap yet, working on it.
Tourist! said:
check this out:
http://www.pocketpcfreak.com/cgi-bi...malaya;action=display;num=1248001803;start=15
what do you think ?
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Seeing the problem with the FUN key on the PDAC I tried it on the AEKMap and figured it wasn't working
Quickly enough I also found a solution. AEKMap supports an ALT key which doesn't exist on the TP2 keyboard so I have mapped the ALT to the FUN key code and voila we have a working FUN key in Hebrew which means you can write in Hebrew and still use the FUN key to produce "?", "-", "+" etc.
All you have to do is unzip the attached, place it in the \Program Files\AEKMap directory (overwriting the existing file), Unload and reload the AEKMap using the AEKMap-Settings app and you are good to go.
thanks man~!!
i really needed it! you done a great job!
continue like that
well done!

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