Getting VoIP working for WM6 cooked ROMS - 8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development

Hi, I'm looking at the various WM6 releases and I'm trying to understand how much functionality for VoIP exists in these ROMS, and what is required to get it working.
From the various reviews on WM6, when Internet Calling is correctly installed it seems to appear as an additional "Internet" tab under phone settings as well as being integrated with the WM6 dialer. I also belive that MS also provides additional hooks for developers (such as dialing third party dialer from Contexts with SIP dial strings).
Looking at the XDA Live version (screen shots only as I'm running a different ROM), it looks like it has the "Internet" tab under Phone Settings for Internet Calling, although people have indicated the functionality is not working. Is this a dialer integration issue then?
I have the LVSW ROM running on my Hermes (great ROM BTW ) and I don't even get the "Internet" tab.
So:
- Can anybody upload the standalone related components such as VoIP.cab, WM6 dialer (not just the skins) along with corresponding registry settings to switch to the correct dialer.
Update: Found the VoIP cab in FTP, was only recently added. still looking for additional info
- Is there any additional info/posts/sites/wiki that can shed more information on this?
At the moment I'm using a thirdparty SIP application that works well, but it has poor integeration with the OS. I've tried other SIP apps.
On the same thread, has anybody tried the dialer/SIP by BeWIP?
Update: Also saw this thread over on the Wizard forum
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=290786
Update: Another interesting thread about updating CommManager
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=296001

patience.... patience....

well, I think this thread might be a good thread to collect information on this topic.
I would also like to have Internet (SIP) calling from WM6
I currently use SjPhone and it is fine but it really has no integration with the OS.
So the greatest addition of WM6 voip calling feature would be integration.
However, it should be highly customizable (sip server selection, codec selection etc.)
Can we make this thread sticky ? I think Golfman has collected some important links under his post.

Have you guys tested Skype? I did and it worked quite all right.

Prerna said:
Have you guys tested Skype? I did and it worked quite all right.
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Skype is Voip but not SIP. Some of us would love a nicely integrated SIP client.

I'm using Skype and X-Pro now, but i would prefer a real built-in SIP Client.
Perhaps it isn't that hard to get it running...

I also use Octrotalk. That's googletalk for WM5
It really works fine with voice.
But that's not SIP again.
We really miss an integrated sip client which can be customizable like SJphone.
Perhaps a sticky thread on this issue would help us but no one makes that.

Sleuth... you not sharing something you found?

I'm curious about something.
The one thing I don't like about Skype is because it doesn't allow me to use my bt headset. Now this VOIP that would be intergrated in wm6 does anyone know if it will let you use bt headset like with regular phone calls?
I mean is this basicly like Skype where you can make free phone calls? If you have unlimited data of course..
Just curious

Skype and misc VoIP...
I run X-Pro at the moment as my SIP client, I used SJPhone and had to do some tweaking to stop the voice jitter - XPro just seems to work better.
On WM6 and "Internet Calling", I've tried some of the xml settings but no dice at the moment - I've not enough time to really go through the M$ docs its a bit of a paper blizzard.
I'm personally not a fan of Skype for several reasons.
-READ THE SMALL PRINT OF THE EULA, ESPECIALLY REGARDING BEING MADE A SUPERNODE
- Its a closed protocol
- Only allows single session
I like SIP, however it does have some NAT issues
One thing that I was disappointed when I got my Hermes phone and I'm not sure if anybody can come up with a solution. Once the phone goes into standby, the Wi-Fi radio turns off to save power. Therefore unless a SIP call is coming in on a Cellular data-plan, the SIP client only works when you want to make a call - would be nice if the built in WM6 client had true radio integration, it might just not be possible unless you want a dead battery real fast.
I was hoping to be able to use my Cell Phone as a cordless in the house (connecting to my SIP server in the house). Dedicated SIP Wi-Fi phones are still way to expensieve.

Golfman said:
Hi, I'm looking at the various WM6 releases and I'm trying to understand how much functionality for VoIP exists in these ROMS, and what is required to get it working.
From the various reviews on WM6, when Internet Calling is correctly installed it seems to appear as an additional "Internet" tab under phone settings as well as being integrated with the WM6 dialer. I also belive that MS also provides additional hooks for developers (such as dialing third party dialer from Contexts with SIP dial strings).
Looking at the XDA Live version (screen shots only as I'm running a different ROM), it looks like it has the "Internet" tab under Phone Settings for Internet Calling, although people have indicated the functionality is not working. Is this a dialer integration issue then?
I have the LVSW ROM running on my Hermes (great ROM BTW ) and I don't even get the "Internet" tab.
So:
- Can anybody upload the standalone related components such as VoIP.cab, WM6 dialer (not just the skins) along with corresponding registry settings to switch to the correct dialer.
Update: Found the VoIP cab in FTP, was only recently added. still looking for additional info
- Is there any additional info/posts/sites/wiki that can shed more information on this?
At the moment I'm using a thirdparty SIP application that works well, but it has poor integeration with the OS. I've tried other SIP apps.
On the same thread, has anybody tried the dialer/SIP by BeWIP?
Update: Also saw this thread over on the Wizard forum
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=290786
Update: Another interesting thread about updating CommManager
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=296001
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You will find the solution for what you are looking for at http://cleanimport.xda/index.php?threads/299950//
--eluth.

yeah iwill like to see a nice sip client integrated in the rom

Works
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=596682

great cabs
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=596682

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Microsoft Voice Command 1.6 - US Version

At last - better late than never
http://msmobiles.com/news.php/5767.html
dos it work with jright 3.2 roms
i confim we can now use voice command with the lid close. ha wicked feature
Whats the deal with it only being a US release? Does that mean it won't work on UK phones???
Tattootroy - from a universal point of view is it worth it? or like previous versions are there big scarfices made??????
mrbrightside1977 said:
Whats the deal with it only being a US release? Does that mean it won't work on UK phones???
Tattootroy - from a universal point of view is it worth it? or like previous versions are there big sacrifices made??????
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trust me it worth it. it still works on uk phone and it understands me very well i can now say dial then a number .1.5 could not recognize my zero and sixes .
best of all we can now use our bluetooth headset to activate it wile the lid is close it also read out text and email headers .
just need to know now if it works on the 3.2 roms
It works very well with AKU 3.2. It's great. I've tested and this was the program we were expcting long time ago.
Where can you get it?
The posts above do not show where the newly released Microsoft Voicecommand V1.6 for WM2005 can be sourced.
It may be available through other suppliers but I found it at:
http://www.handango.com/PlatformPro...806&Ntt=voice command&productId=90635&R=90635
Users who previously purchased V1.5 can purchase this US English version as an upgrade at $9.99 plus VAT. New purchase is $39.99 plus VAT.
I have installed it on my Universal over Ivan's Beta 14 ROM. It works exactly as V1.5 works on WM2003. No tweaking or .dll file changes (other than those done by the install) are required. There are no new features, this release seems only to provide the same functionality as V1.5 but compatibility with WM2005.
Microsoft Voice Command 1.6 does not appear to announce incoming calls for me. I'm using Beta 14 of Ivans rom. And, yes, I have checked the option under the Microsoft Voice Command Applet.
Using Version 1.60.4622.0
My bad. It was only announcing through Bluetooth
VoiceCommand 1.6 and Cyberon
Voicecommand works great on Ivan's AKU, but I prefer Cyberon for making calls as it understands better my tags than vc1.6 reading them from my contacts.
However, when I installed vc1.6, Voice speed dial has stopped responding even when vc1.6 is not enabled.
Any tweaks/suggestions?
Still seems to have a bug with button operation on the universal, the voice dial button will only register as press and hold (which defaults to record unless you change it). There's probably a registry setting for it but I don't know which one.
This might be an obvious question, but how do you get voice command to work with the lid closed?When my uni is closed (and I guess powered off,stand by) the program doesn't respond. when I open the lid a very little so that the screen turns on, voice command works. Any tips?
Thanks
it only works with lid close when you are using button on a bluetooth head set. may be it will be hacked soon so we can use device button whe lid is close
I figured as much. I didn't find the "start menu-settings-buttons" very helpful in that respect. I'll just have to live with it for the time being. Btw, it's the first time I'm using this program and it's pretty awesome.
wrong section?
this should have been posted in general since this application supports pocket pc and smartphones!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
Bluetooth function not working
Voice Command 1.6 has a great functionality for universal that it will work when universal lid is closed, but bluetooth function (Where it is suppose to annouce incoming calls and other notification via bluetooth) is not working for me, even when the appropriate box are checked. I alos re-paired my headset.
Is there any setting (registry), that I should be checking to see if everything is appropriate.
does it work on windows 6.1 htc touch hd i want to buy but want to make sure it works
jvworldchampion said:
The posts above do not show where the newly released Microsoft Voicecommand V1.6 for WM2005 can be sourced.
It may be available through other suppliers but I found it at:
http://www.handango.com/PlatformPro...806&Ntt=voice command&productId=90635&R=90635
Users who previously purchased V1.5 can purchase this US English version as an upgrade at $9.99 plus VAT. New purchase is $39.99 plus VAT.
I have installed it on my Universal over Ivan's Beta 14 ROM. It works exactly as V1.5 works on WM2003. No tweaking or .dll file changes (other than those done by the install) are required. There are no new features, this release seems only to provide the same functionality as V1.5 but compatibility with WM2005.
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does it work on windows 6.1 htc touch hd i want to buy but want to make sure it works
Never had a problem with Voice Command and any ROM on Uni and other WM devices. The correct settings that work for me: those with button problems should be disabling locking all buttons, assigning a button for Voice Command (I assigned the one for Voice Recording), setting 'Announce Notifications using Bluetooth hands free if available' through settings, enabling microphone noise reduction and Voila!
I use Voice Command for all sorts of things, when I listen to music over the bluetooth it is a god send. I got Pocket Player set up as a default, so all you have to do is say 'Play Music' and you will be asked to make a selection or play anything etc. The only time where I get a bit of a problem is advancing tracks.
And yes, I do realise it's a VERY old thread

Is there a working VoIP app working on dash ?

Hello,
I'm raising big hopes about the scheduled WM6 upgrade (i'm waiting for the official one, not t-mobile's or russian one) but in the meantime, do you know if there is an working SIP client for my s620 ?
By working, i mean that the audio is correctly routed, I don't want to use an headset.
I've tried fring, skype, bewip, gosip. I don't mind purchasing a piece of software if it work well.
Thanks
as much as i know.. the very best (for the moment) is skype..
and the headset i think it is not big deal to use..
just my opinion..
Oh, pick me! I know the answer! Me! Me! Me!
Well, if you wanna go proprietary, Skype'll do the job. But you want SIP, so that puts Skype right out. The correct answer was Fring™. Fring is a free MSN/ICQ/Skype/SIP client that claims to operate over WiFi and GPRS. I've only tested it over WiFi, and I'm doubtful that GPRS will be enough to make it work right (EDGE, maybe). Thankfully, Fring™ is free, and all you have to do is go to their web site. The entire process can even be done on your phone.
I could never get the WM6 Internet Calling app to work. Others have reported that the connection drops (although the wi-fi connection is still up) after 15 minutes. Another user and myself had the same config (aside from username/password and phone number), his worked, mine didn't.
I installed Fring and its SIP client worked as advertised. Can connect to any voip provider.
(But didn't like the fact I had to create a Fring account even if not planning to use it)
Greg530 said:
I installed Fring and its SIP client worked as advertised. Can connect to any voip provider.
(But didn't like the fact I had to create a Fring account even if not planning to use it)
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Yes, but the fact I can't have sound from earpiece is a problem...

WM6.0 SIP client configuration - Not working

WM6.0 SIP client configuration - Not working
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Hi all,
I have followed the procedure in
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=299950 and now i get Internet calling enabled in my device. However i could not make call. I am using the ondo SIP server for testing, no real service provider. I have tried many times and am not successful in getting it work.
However my doubt now is can the SIP client be configured in any of the three WM6.0 Operating system. It has 3 flavours :
1. WM6.0 Classic
2. WM6.0 Professional
3. WM6.0 Standard.
Can the SIP client be unlocked and worked from all the three or any specific flavour only ?
I think those who have made it work can provide insights into it. This is quite important for me. As till now i have been testing with WM6.0 professional. We intend to buy a WM6.0 device, so which flavour should we opt for ?
Hoping to get an earliest positive response.
im goin to be honest:
1. WM6.0 CLassic --> It works, but speakerphone sound (no earpiece)
2. WM6.0 Proff--> Same as classic
3. WM6.0 Standard--> Works bcoz says Internet Calling not available but when I configure a working server, it freezes my device at startup, so I have to hardreset it
Clear voice, Good responsiveness. So WM6.0 VoIP is quite good
I am using a LAN setup . Server used in Ondo server. But then my SIP client does not get registered with the server. Is it possible to try making calls using direct IP without any servers involved ?
kk2202,
Are you using any firewall at the SIP Server's machine?
I think you need to open SIP port (UDP 5060) at the firewall or disable it.
I'm using Ondo server (aka Brekeke SIP Server) without any problem.
Hi, did you make a _setup.xml with your settings and manage to install it?
If not make sure your phone is application unlocked and then follow the instructions again.
I'm successful on WM 6.1 Standard
You might also check for the Prov0Settings file and attach your xml here for verification.
My NAT creates problems for my Sipura 2100 box, but my softphones including the WM6.1 client gets through it without problems. For this reason I don't think your issues are NAT related. You might see the searching state, however when the IP phone icon appears in the top bar you should be good to go.
I might also add that if you suspect NAT issues you could try Fring www.fring.com/cab it is really easy to setup. If that works then it's clearly a configuration issue.
Hi,
I have attached the _setup.xml for verification. 192.168.0.101 is the machine where the ondo SIP server is running.
What should i check in Prov0Settings in this file. It gets created when i install my .cab file.
Fring is not working on WM6
Hey guys,
Im new to the XDA developer site, recently i have upgraded my Imate Jas Jam from WM5(Telestra) to WM6(3 Network) using "HERM_DOPODASIA_WWE_3.54.707.3_6275_CustomRUU" I have downloaded fring from www.fring.com/cab
Installation is successful, but when i start Fring it simplay shows up the screen which says fring is loading then close application, tried too many times could'nt make this to work, any ideas...
your help is appreciated

Reliable VoIP on Hermes? Experiences?

Hi,
I would like to use my Hermes as a VoIP device via WiFi. To be more precise, I want to use it seriously, not just to play around. The battery time is neglectible, server-side voip configuration and codes can be adjusted.
So far I have seen Schaps WM6.0 Rom, the Voipwm6.cab's, the voip Drivers .cab and destr0`s cab (I have also tested some overfilled Rom Images with Voip support).
My experience so far has been rather disappointing, laggy connections, no reconnecting after Wlan disconnect, lack of speech codecs. This seems surprising to me, as there are other WM6 based devices, with similiar memory and processor power, being marketed as business-VoIP devices (eg. some iPAQs). So, as far as I understand, it should be possible to enable full VoIP functionality, quality and reliability by chosing the right software.
My question:
Is somebody here using VoIP on a Hermes daily? What setup are you using, which drivers did you install? Are there WM6.1 Voip drivers availible? I do not like this mixing up of different library versions, which seems to be popular with the rom kitchens.
SKYPE MOBILE FIND IT ON THE SKYPE SITE THATS what I always use I have millions of enteries and errands to run and I have to meet political connections in other countries and I know this sounds boring but here I am and I have to use VOIP NO JOKE
since you asked.....
I fooled around with the same issue for several months. While Fring and the newest version of skype for ppc both gave good sound quality, I have given up on the issue because of an unacceptable voice delay (~0.5 ). I once thought the issue was related to my internet provider - my current opinion is that this is due windows mobile issues and inadequate processing power. Calling in to a local voip dial-in access telephone # via my hermes did NOT produce the same voice delay, nor did internet skype calling via a wifi connection from my computer. I also got the voice delay when I tried calling via a 3g/umts cellular connection and when using some Viop software found on this site. Finally, using every phone 'tweak' I could find on the internet also did not improve the voice delay, nor did different 'fast' custom ROMs improve the issue. If you/or anyone else ever solves the problem of voice delay on the hermes, I would love to know how.
I've been testing NCH Express Talk: http://www.nch.com.au/talk/index.html + this little utility that forces sound output to the earpiece: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=396829
I haven't done much field testing, but the quality is much better than inbuilt VoIP, works ok over 3G and unlike Fring, the communication between you and your VoIP provider is direct.
Thanks for your replies and sharing your experiences. At least now I do not feel like a complete idiot. The strange thing is that when I tried Voip on Hermes the first times (just with VoIP.cab etc). and connecting directly to a normal provider sound quality was really good and the lag was low. Some hours later it has been bad.
As far as I am concerned, I have also tested agephone (gives you a lot of configuration options) and i will test voipsurfer (uses iax) a bit more as soon as i find some time.
I will not give up now. Among other things I want to look at the network settings of the Hermes (packet size etc.) and test with a lot of free memory.
I am going to keep this thread updated, as soon as I find out more.
Tremere, thanks for the nch hint. The program gave me a warning about my network setup, which may lead to one-way or lagged audio. Hmm...
Voip
Download fring from yr htc install it and insert yr voip account.
It works like charm.
wallabyman said:
Tremere, thanks for the nch hint. The program gave me a warning about my network setup, which may lead to one-way or lagged audio. Hmm...
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I got around the warning by setting up port forwarding on my router. The audio is fine, both directions work, but the lag is still not acceptable.
I bought a Hermes (8525) about 2 weeks ago and have been trying out different voip methods. Here's my bit:
Skype
+Keeps phone from sleeping so you can always be logged in
+Best sound quality from the ways I've tried
+Very cheap rates for US calls and DID
-Very unstable on my device. I constantly have to soft reset when skype runs
-Skype contacts separate from Hermes contacts
-Speakerphone used by default, which causes bad echoing. Torca2 works to route sound to earpiece, but awkward to start/stop. I haven't managed to get audioswitch to work, which would sort things out.
-Must use +1 on calls, and the + is obnoxious to get to
Fring (with skype)
+More stable, and I can use gmail chat!
+Smoother interface (for me) than skype
-Short to medium delay, enough to be a deal-breaker
-Doesn't stop device from sleeping, so calls in don't work
-Fring contacts separate from Hermes contacts
SIP with Home Asterisk/Sisky-Skype Server
+More control over detailed options
+When at home, great call quality with little delay
+WM6 has built in voip support
+Phone automatically logs into wifi networks and connects back to my home server very well, displays status on today screen
+Hermes contacts dial using voip when available
+Easy to build on and add more phones (mobile and landlines) to the system
-Good quality but bad delay (so far) when connecting remotely through the internet
-Tricky to get set up from scratch
-Requires at least one dedicated server, preferably two
-Sisky enterprise software is proprietary ($60, free 30-day trial)
-Voip stops when the device is in standby. There are supposed to be ways around this but at the cost of battery life. Still testing...
I'm going to try the voip with voipbuster or another provider... but that's next weekend. I'm hoping my home asterisk server pans out, but there's a lot of configurations to learn and perfect.
Here's the link for torca2 again
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=396829
And audioswitch, which would be a gem if it worked on the hermes
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=469223

VoIP on TP2

I was searching this forum for VoIP/SIP on TP2. Has anybody some experience on this?
Here is my adventure:
I found a wiki link at http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=VoIP_on_Windows_Mobile_6
Apparently the topmost cab and also the one on http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=596682 kill the GPS capability, which is a no go.
Thus I installed cab from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2497988&postcount=8 , and configuration for Gizmo5 http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=VoIP_Provisioning_XML_WM6
I was able to get "Internet Call: Available" only once, and even then an international call was done as regular. Now it's always unavailable.​
I know fring is available, but is a resource hog
Any ideas?
Skype 3.0 for Windows Mobile works perfect on my TP2. However, there is an audio cab you have to run to make it behave correctly; the info can be found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=498166
Yes, I have skype.
Sorry I was not clear enough in the initial post. I need to have SIP support.

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