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Imate PDA2K Vs, IPAQ HX4700 + SPV C500 Phone

I have a new PDA2K from imate (also known as the XDAIIs MDA III, QTEK 9090 amongst others). On a recent trip to Toronto I could not resist picking up an HX4700 on my credit card.
I've been using both now for about 2 weeks, but I need to make a decision. My wife says one has to go on eBay. I agree I can't keep 2 devices on the go.
I'm looking for some thoughts from you Blue Angel users to help me make my decision.
a) HX4700 + Orange SPV C500
For: The gorgeous screen, wifi, bluetooth
Against: No phone functionality built in
b) Imate PDA2K
For: Phone functionality
Against: poorer screen, phone and bluetooth issues
I really like the idea of 1 device solution, but the beauty of both the HX4700 and the C500 phone are sawying me.
The Bluetooth issues are not a big factor in my decision as a ROM update shoul address them.
Any help would be appreciated
Regards,
Mike

The C500 is a Smartphone, why use a Smartphone with the 4700?

i-Mate JasJar versus Qtek 9000 ?, please advice

I understand both devices are the same, just Qtek 9000 is Black, and i-Mate JasJar is Grey. Nonetheless I would like to get some feedback from the support and service point of view, I am located in Florida, US, from which company I can get the better service and support ?, also from which one usualy you get the most updated ROMS or Drivers ?, thanks

see this http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=179380&highlight=#179380
than which one you choose ?

Something about O2 Xda Atom

O2 official websit has already introduced Xda Atom in the market. I am wondering if anyone has already seen it in HK yet. If yes, I have some questions below and please help me out with. thank you very much.
1. How much is it?
2. Is English and Chinese version also available in HK?
3. Who carries this PDA?

1) It's HK$4,980 so it's approx. US$638.50
2) English version will be out before X'mas so they say.. And Chinese version in Jan.
3) It's not out yet, but you should be able to get it anywhere *if* they don't sell out... Or just order it from Expansys...

Some O2 info on the HTC Prophet:
http://www.seeo2.com/product/XdaAtom/template/XdaAtomProductInfo.vm
For some strange reason, the specs listing shows some peculiar "mistakes" (such as CPU 'Intel PXA272 416MHz' instead of 'Texas Instruments OMAP850 200 MHz' as quoted from Mobile.review... :roll:
Any more info, anyone?
Greets, Leon Steyns.

Leon_Steyns said:
Some O2 info on the HTC Prophet:
http://www.seeo2.com/product/XdaAtom/template/XdaAtomProductInfo.vm
For some strange reason, the specs listing shows some peculiar "mistakes" (such as CPU 'Intel PXA272 416MHz' instead of 'Texas Instruments OMAP850 200 MHz' as quoted from Mobile.review... :roll:
Any more info, anyone?
Greets, Leon Steyns.
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Not that strange Leon... In fact YOU are making some mistakes by getting your devices mixed up :lol:
1) O2 Atom is NOT HTC Prophet, but a device made by Quanta.
2) O2 Atom has PXA272 where HTC Prophet has sloppy OMAP850/195Mhz
I really like the Prophet, although HTC should have given it a faster CPU.
CT.

O2 Atom is competely diffenent device than HTC. Please noted that
Jerry

Thank you for your informaiton CL55. I may go to HK if I got a chance in Jan. Can you give me a full name of where I can order it from?
Jerry

The price of O2 Atom in HK should be HK$5980. For $4980 is Dopod 818 Pro.
CL55 said:
1) It's HK$4,980 so it's approx. US$638.50
2) English version will be out before X'mas so they say.. And Chinese version in Jan.
3) It's not out yet, but you should be able to get it anywhere *if* they don't sell out... Or just order it from Expansys...
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I stand corrected...
What's the point of "wasting" such a wonderful device with a less-capable engine? haven't consumer electronics manufacturers learned from carmakers? :roll:
Sorry.
Greets, Leon Steyns.

Are someone actually owing the Dopod 818 Pro yet?
Althought the device is out for sale for almost a week now, there doesn't seems to be anyone that actually owes one.
I'm dying to hear from first hand opinion about the prophet.
Frankly speaking, the engine for the prophet is not that bad. The only problem is that probably none of the Pocket PC are currently optimise to take advantage of parallel processing using the OMAP processors.
Given that Universe and Wizard are also using OMAP, I would think it will take 6 months to a year before the software developers will do something about it, and that means more upgrade $$$.
Although Prophet is about SGD$200 cheaper than Atom, the savings is zeroised if you take into consideration of the additional software upgrade costs.
Demand and Supply. That's how free trade works.

Expansys - O2 XDA Atom (HK Warranty, EN)
Hi Guys
Bit of a newbie - I'm considering buying the atom from expansys which is available on this link
http://www.expansys.com/product.asp?code=126950
Would anyone be able to give me a feel on the implications of the HK warranty.
I'm a little concerned I may end up with a rushed out model with poor english etc etc etc
Cheers guys

Anyone with a HTC P3300 yet?

Does the wifi work?
Do you like the mouse button?
Does it take 2 GB mini SD cards?
How many hours can you use TomTom on one battery load? (wifi, Bluetooth, GSM, FM Radio, enabled)
(That's 5 receivers!)
T-mobile germany has a P3300 (T-Mobile MDA compact III) on the website.
A dutch guy maggoo has a preproduction? T-Mobile compact III, only he is on Holiday now...
His wifi is not working BTW...
Offcourse BengalBoy (King of gadgets) has a preproduction? P3300 since august 2006.

Apparently, Bengalboy has posted his on ebay
http://cgi.ebay.com/HTC-Artemis-P33...ryZ64355QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Nice Phone and a ugly Woman

LOL,
i wish i would own such a sweet device for changing it with my Trion or Wizard. The only thing i really appreciate is the FM receiver. Everything else i wouldnt exchange with my Trion. Due the fact that this device is not that perfomant like other PDAs
But why not having a small device in the pocket? Fits perfectly to my suit

I was thinking about the GPS.... Does the GPS work fine?? I really2 like the size

That ebay auction looks fishy to me. No recent feedback, bank transfer, no warranties etc etc....

guess it has not been release yet still, same here for my country singapore, anticipating it release along with the p3600

Hi!
I did actually test the device last Saturday. It was displayed at the Microsoft stand on a Norwegian multimedia exhibit. The device performed very well and the GPS and FM tuner worked perfectly. The head of Microsoft Windows Mobile in Norway confirmed that the mass production started October 13th, and that the device would be shipped to Europe after 15 days (October 28th).
PK

paalkr said:
Hi!
I did actually test the device last Saturday. It was displayed at the Microsoft stand on a Norwegian multimedia exhibit. The device performed very well and the GPS and FM tuner worked perfectly. The head of Microsoft Windows Mobile in Norway confirmed that the mass production started October 13th, and that the device would be shipped to Europe after 15 days (October 28th).
PK
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oct in europe so soon wow, dunno when it will b shipped to singapore or whether it would b sold in singapore under htc

Blackberry on Artemis?
Does anyone know if it will support Blackberry connections?

The Artemis Proto is available for purchase. The ebay auction was mine and not fishy.
As for the "ugly woman", I suggest getting your eyes checked immediately, or, should you be at CES in Vegas this January, come introduce yourself to me and say it to my face. Hehe... but we all know you never would..

BegalBoy - don't know if anyone else has greeted you, but it's great to have you on the forum! You're a legend! Keep up the exceptional work.
V

Thank you Vijay555 for the welcome. I visit XDA-Devs all the time. This is the "Site" for operating system development and individual work for improving the performance of the devices we all love. It has been the only place since I got my first XDAII (imate Pocket PC) back in the day to offer assistance and improvement on issues with the operating systems long before solutions are provided by the manufacter. I always have respected the "code warriors" here and the fact that you rarely see any juvenile posts,,, only tech and device related. But I couldn't resist when I saw that unusual comment about one of my girls.
Thanks to all of you for assisting the community, if I can ever be of any help providing ROMs on unreleased devices don't hesitate to ask.

BengalBoy said:
Thanks to all of you for assisting the community, if I can ever be of any help providing ROMs on unreleased devices don't hesitate to ask.
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It would be nice if you could dump the roms on your unreleased devices and post them here, if you need technical assistance just ask
just out of curiosity, where do u get the devices so early?? I saw that no one bid for them on ebay... but what you have to do if you want to sell them is send the ebay auction link to people at imei-check, they usually buy preproduction devices at any price to have the unlockers ready when the devices are released.

was really tempted to bid n buy the item coz its not available in singapore yet, really a neat device after seeing the video introduction on Youtube by none other than bengalboy himself, the p3600 n p3300 are really devices worth waiting for, would choose either one to replace my exisiting O2 mini aka magician which have been serving me well still...
any idea regarding the price over in your country yet?

Zomg it's BengalBoy
hey there bro nice to see you here, yeah this is probably the best gadget forum in regards to wm phones, hope to see ya around more often you could contribute greatly to the community,
p.s. nice site you have

Be happy to dump the ROM for you guys, got some instructions??? Its prototype, but, maybe you guys can help me.... I have this proto rom as well as a new ROM with Tom Tom on board.. Which do you want? Would be nice if someone could help me CID unlock my device to install the new ROM on.. Also have the Trinity if you want that ROM as well...

pardon my newbie-ness but just whats the purpose of dumping the ROM here?

BegalBoy, this is a good description of how to dump roms the "hard way", so to speak. There are other easier tools, but they've given mixed result on the Treo, so this method is generally sound.
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_HowtoDumpRom&action=BackLinks
lmf_slacker: we enjoy taking roms apart to see what's been changed, updated, perhaps incorporate new features that haven't migrated into our roms yet. Not all operators are diligent in updating "obsolete" devices, but we like to keep them alive!
V

i can see from the link http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index...on=Back Links that u can change the language of the device if u change the ROM, is that all u change?

Any News on O2 XDA Flame WM6?

(Anxiously waiting for the WM6 ROM)
Read this...
O2 Asia is about to offer free Windows Mobile 6 upgrade for the Xda Atom Life! This free update will be available to all current Atom Life users, and will involve either a download from the O2 Web site or a visit to one of its service centers. The upgrade will change the operating system on the Atom Life from Windows Mobile 5.0 Pocket PC Phone Edition to Windows Mobile 6 (WM6) Professional.
Since its availability from May 12, the Atom Life will become one of the first commercially-available Windows Mobile products to sport the newer OS. Atom Life handhelds sold in stores from June onwards will also be preloaded with WM6. In comparison, Dopod, which will be acquired by HTC, will be upgrading its selected devices to WM6 in July.
O2 Atom Life will still feature its enhancements, the O2 SMS Plus and O2 MediaPlus. They have been tested on the new OS, and will still be available on the Atom Life after the upgrade. O2 added that they are currently testing WM6 on its upcoming Xda Flame (Specifications) and all of their phones which will be launched in 2007 will be opearting with WM6. The only thing left is to hear about an upgrade for the Xda Zinc and Xda Graphite soon.
Source : cnet

Im hopeful, but o2 is generally slow at this type of thing so I would not be to impatient. For my uses WM6 doesn't offer much more either. But its always nice to have the latest...

I found this while googling other sites about the flame.
"Wm5 disapointed but i made the sales person call his friend who works at the o2 shop in hong kong and he said that wm6 will be available in a month. They are still testing it and i will have an update as soon as it is released."
I don't know how realiable this is but who knows.
From this page...
http://forum.mypdacafe.com/viewtopic.php?t=13042&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=270

Hi guys,
Just got a negative reply from O2
Here goes
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Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 4:34 PM
Subject: [Case#BF19151/1] Flame - TT0 - WM6
Dear Jim,
Thank you for contacting O2 Asia Technical Support.
You may wish to be advised that O2 has recently released the Windows Mobile 6 upgrade for Xda Atom Life users. Aside from that, O2 Asia currently has no plans of providing WM6 for current models including XDA Flame. You may wish to refer time and again in the near future to www.seeo2.com for further information on the devices with Windows Mobile 6.
Please inform me of any other assistance that you may require. I wish you success in your future endeavours.
Sincerely,
Judith Taan
O2 Technical Support (Email)
Asia Pacific Region
SACODE: jutaan#
For full listing of retail outlets and information on the latest products,
please visit http://www.seeo2.com

Overall, faster and stable. Better than wm6 838pro. I use spb full keyboard, just as good as a qwert kb. Batteris bad, cannot stand for one day for normal use, also the volumn of speaker is weak that cannot always hear phone rings. hope can improve in near future. I do not need wm6 as no material difference with wm5, I do not use office in pda....

I wouldnt give up just yet fellas, I mean think about how much HTC and Dopod denied they would do WM6 ROM or even a GPS ROM for the trinity, and sure enough eventually both of those were announced etc.
Im just thinking come next month when alot more WM6 Roms roll out, O2 might jump onboard as well, whats the point of having a pretty powerful device, but being too cheap to give consumers a WM6 Rom?

Osir1s said:
Im just thinking come next month when alot more WM6 Roms roll out, O2 might jump onboard as well, whats the point of having a pretty powerful device, but being too cheap to give consumers a WM6 Rom?
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I agree. I'm sure something like this would happen. It's pretty stupid to release such a powerful PDA with an outdated OS...

jimlau said:
Hi guys,
Just got a negative reply from O2
Here goes
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Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 4:34 PM
Subject: [Case#BF19151/1] Flame - TT0 - WM6
Dear Jim,
Thank you for contacting O2 Asia Technical Support.
You may wish to be advised that O2 has recently released the Windows Mobile 6 upgrade for Xda Atom Life users. Aside from that, O2 Asia currently has no plans of providing WM6 for current models including XDA Flame. You may wish to refer time and again in the near future to www.seeo2.com for further information on the devices with Windows Mobile 6.
Please inform me of any other assistance that you may require. I wish you success in your future endeavours.
Sincerely,
Judith Taan
O2 Technical Support (Email)
Asia Pacific Region
SACODE: jutaan#
For full listing of retail outlets and information on the latest products,
please visit http://www.seeo2.com
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This is some idiot who is responding from O2.
Today wm6 for zinc has been announced, check out msmobiles / seeo2.com for details.
I think flame is the flagship model of the company and they will surely release wm6 for it.

Reply from O2 Asia Pacific
Dear Flame Users,
I'm using XDA flame and whoever posted that reply tried to discourage Flame users.
Because i got an offical reply from O2 that they are currently testing Flame upgrade and will release soon
i got following message from O2
kindly note that O2 has a policy of testing new software and applications thoroughly to ensure that potential faults and issues are mitigated so that the customer experience and enjoyment of the new device is not affected. As a result, we are conducting rigorous tests on Windows Mobile 6 with the unique O2 applications and other software intended for the Xda Flame. Customers can expect to an announcement on the availability of Windows Mobile 6 upgrades for the Xda Flame in the near future.
Hope this information is useful. Thank You.
Warmest Regards,
Joanne Goh
O2 Technical Support (Email)
Asia Pacific Region
SACODE: jgoh#
For full listing of retail outlets and information on the latest products,
please visit http://www.seeo2.com

I'm using XDA Zinc ... and prior to wm 6.0 launched, I asked O2 about the upcoming wm 6.0 but they answered exactly like the one posted above that they were not providing wm 6.0 for zinc ... but guess what now they have it ...
I guess it is standard answer for someone that asked about availability of wm 6.0 ... i believe wm 6.0 will be available for flame also ... just wait patiently ... after all it is the current flagship of o2 ...

From the information above, some may conlude that O2 would finally release the WM6 rom, just as I do. Actually I think, maybe there're still something imperfect of the WM6 drivers for the indepent graphic card in FLAME, so it is still being tested time and again.
Nowadays, I noticed in a Chinese online shopping website, that they have the unique FLAME to sold with WM6(simplified Chinese edition)!!!
http://auction1.taobao.com/auction/0/item_detail-0db2-7bbf4068423ebb333ff1cd39fb0804c1.jhtml
I wonder where they got it, is that a signal? Oh, the seller also claim that they have a forum which is the official one of O2(www.iio2.com).
NOT ADs! cauz I'm not quite believe that.

solaluna said:
From the information above, some may conlude that O2 would finally release the WM6 rom, just as I do. Actually I think, maybe there're still something imperfect of the WM6 drivers for the indepent graphic card in FLAME, so it is still being tested time and again.
Nowadays, I noticed in a Chinese online shopping website, that they have the unique FLAME to sold with WM6(simplified Chinese edition)!!!
http://auction1.taobao.com/auction/0/item_detail-0db2-7bbf4068423ebb333ff1cd39fb0804c1.jhtml
I wonder where they got it, is that a signal? Oh, the seller also claim that they have a forum which is the official one of O2(www.iio2.com).
NOT ADs! cauz I'm not quite believe that.
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Actually, this is truth. WM6 Chinese version are published already

danny3358 said:
Actually, this is truth. WM6 Chinese version are published already
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I looked around that website-iio2, and found that it is not an official verison, as it is replanted from D900. Amazing! But I guess there is not a proper driver for the independent graphic card in this version.