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Sound mutes after 1 day, only soft-reset solves this

I have a problem that more people seem to have, according to the search. I couldn’t find the “audio” tab in my Bluetooth-settings, so that didn’t help me.
The problem is as follows. After 1 day the sound on my compact III mutes, including vibration. Sometimes it's after 12 hours, sometimes after 2 days, there's no distinct pattern to be recognized. Also, it doesn't seem to matter if you use the phone or not, since it sometimes is alright at night and the sound is muted the next morning. This is for all sound-events (warnings, incoming call notifications, messages, mp3 etc), however, you can make a call without any problems and hear what the other person is saying. Once you’ve hard-reset the device everything is back to normal.
It does get annoying however, since I regularly miss calls due to this bug.
I had the same problem on my Vario in the past. So I’m guessing it’s somewhere in the software I use, but apart from Total Commander and TomTom6 I haven’t installed any third-party apps.

Yup i've been having a slight problem with the sound. I thought it was like the endless knackered M500's that orange used to send me which had speaker failure after about 10minuites! (Swear they kept sending me the same 2 faulty phones - I had 5 in 5 days once!) But a play in the bluetooth seems to get it working again.
The other annoying thing is that if you leave the power management at the default settings then occasionally the screen blanks without being able to get the backlight on again - so now I have to manually turn of the screen. Stil aint much of a problem - ive had a normal days use, 2 hours of radio play, bluetooth and wi-fi on all day and still have 35% battery - wehay!
Hopefully there'll be a patch soon to sort out he glitches.

I forgot to mention I had the exact same problem on my mda Vario also. I always thought it was a problem with that specific piece, but apparantly not.
Could it be the vibrate.cab that I'm using to produce vibrations when you use the phonepad? Or should I really do some further research in the bluetooth-department?

Same problem here.
Phone becomes completely silent after 9 hours in standby mode.
I need to reset it to get back sound
Does someone know what is going on here ?
Please advise. Thank you.

I seem to experience no problems the past couple of days (fingers crossed). I used the 'speed up your WM5' tweak where you set the Glyphcache to 32768. After I reduced it to 16something the problems seem to have disappeared.

I noticed that this problem happens when for example email is automatically checked during night. If email comes in (and is not read immediately) the phone will start notifying in background.
Notifications are kept and only a program like "check notifications" will delete them manually. But still if you delete them, the phone then needs a reset
to work properly again.
This is not a memory issue, it has to do with the notifications.
I do not know how to solve it.

Weird!! "Phoenix" Problem

Gad. As an engineer, I am a little reluctant to post this question or observation ... but if trained active astronaughts reported seeing UFOs, then I can report this problem. Here it goes:
My upgrade to 6.1 on my T-Mobile Dash coincided, unfortunately, to the day, with a new job that requires me to commute to Phoenix, AZ each week (as well as other brief US travels).
The evening I installed 6.1 (RUU_Excalibur_WM61_Kavana_080408_WWE)
I was in my home in the Silicon Valley area of CA. No problems.
Then
1. I shuttle off to Phoenix. From the moment I landed - email was just broken all over the place - mainly SMTP - which is well documented on these boards. A replacement Dash, 30 hours of tech support etc .. the problem has seemed to go away - perhaps it was a bizzare temporary incompatability between the 6.1 upgrade and tmobile's proxy servers.
now then ....
2. When I am in CA - my appointment reminders, and the overall behavior of the Dash is OK. I tend to use Tasks, Outlook, and text and pop emails quite often, browser and playing solitaire when i get bored. and lots of bluetooth use. Usually no problems with any of this while in CA.
3. I've traveled recently to Orlando, LA, St. Louis, San Fran, Indiana ... no problems at all - or rather no changes in behavior.
4. The SECOND I land in Phoenix and turn on my phone, the poltergeists start:
a. I turn on the phone - and all the reminders appear (no surprise) - but the "dismiss/menu" options don't appear for maybe 5 mins. I cannot do anything during this time except click on the Celetask button (@)... but this won't allow me to terminate anything. Only the back button and home key work - returning me to the frozen reminders list.
b. After 5 mins of freezing ... I either dismiss the reminder/appointments (or snooze them for 1 hour - ... one hour). Then I try to look at emails etc ... I find the button responses sluggish but working. THEN within about a min - the damn reminders appear again. When I dismiss them all, they reappear in about a min - this time with a duplicate of each active reminder (calender appts) ... yes, 2 of each. This keeps interrupting email reading until I cant stand it.
c. so I take out the battery, wait, and reboot. perhaps after 5 trys of this - the behavior still persists, but stable enough for me to work on the dash (perhaps it is not the reboots - but that the appointment reminder cycle has expired)
d. Even so ... during the next few hours -
i. Major problems talking on the phone. Reminders interrupt; cannot access phone menus (toggle handsfree, or to type touchtone numbers)
ii. When navigating other apps - keyboard does not always respond ... sometimes it appears to stuff in erroneous keystrokes
iii. freezes (unresponsive) for long periods 3-4 mins at a time then all the backlog of keypresses are excuted.
Yes, I have replaced the Dash twice already! That's not the problem
Taking out the battery, or otherwise rebooting actually seems to make the problem worse (the reminders trip over themselves and take forever to clear)
These problems only seem to occur when I stay in Phoenix (I know, a UFO sighting in more pausable).
The problems seem to subside within a day or two but I am not certain.
These problems don't seem to happen in any other city ! Took 4-5 months of traveling to realize this!
gulp ...
Has anyone else experienced anything close to this?

Try a new SIM card, especially if it is older. Sounds funny, but there's a lot of datafill in the HLR/MSC that are tied to specific SIM card ranges. I've seen switching SIMs fix all kinds of issues. Give it a shot... worth a try

It may be tied to the stupid t-mobile Arizona time zone problem. If the phone is set to sync with the time servers to keep accurate, then it will mess with everything else that relies on time. I have to keep mine unchecked for time synchro because otherwise it is an hour off and that changes everything in the calendar.
Next time you head towards Phoenix, try unchecking the automatic time/time zone option in your clock. You may need to reset the clock, but hopefully, it won't screw everything else up.

im in phoenix and nothing like this has happened to me lol. as stated above could very well be because of the timezone issues.

tf3d won't start on soft reset

I have a weird issue with my TP2.
When i reset it... it boots up and i can see the HTC logo but tf3d won't start.. i went into settings unchecked tf3d and reticked it.. no difference!
How is the executable called? anyone elese experiencing this issue?

Known problem.
The best workaround I found till now:
1. Switch on Flightmode. (use the red phone button press for more than 3 seconds)
2 Reset/Restart
3. Switch off flightmode. The PIN screen comes up automatically.
Works in 100% of the cases.
Huib

You can run the manila.exe found in the Windows folder but I've found that when doing this, the clock on the home tab doesn't refresh/change and the notification balloons don't come up (the little round icon on the sms tab when you have unread sms's for example)

the workaround worked like a blast. Thanks..
I could not find that thread describing it.. i wonder why HTC did not release any hotfix for this.

How is the manila.exe started???
Hi!
I have the same issue, Touchflo3d not starting after boot on my swedish Touch Pro2.
If i try to manually start manila.exe i also get the clock freeze on the start screen and no mail/message notifications.
I've tried two hard resets, and adding programs and settings one at a time just to try to find the reason for this, but no luck. It feels like it's all random, it all works with apps installed, and suddenly it stops working, no changes made.
I notice that when i manually execute \windows\manila.exe the screen goes from the black screen with the HTC logo directly to the start screen of touchflo3d. When everything works the way it should do, there is a difference, a text appears on the black screen under the HTC logo, something like "starting Touchflo3D".
I'm not that good at windows mobile myself, but i hope someone on this forum, that has a phone with touchflo3d, can find the difference between starting the manila.exe manually, not seeing the "starting Touchflo"-test, compared to the automatic start with that text.
I hope that would lead to a solution or fix, i would not mind very much having to start touchflo myself with a click, but i'd like to start it the same way it does when working so the clock and notifications work as it should.
Let's all hope some of the many extremly skilled members here picks up the glove and takes a good look at this!!
Best regards
Cerebral Cortex

Phone screen will disapper?
herpi said:
Known problem.
The best workaround I found till now:
1. Switch on Flightmode. (use the red phone button press for more than 3 seconds)
2 Reset/Restart
3. Switch off flightmode. The PIN screen comes up automatically.
Works in 100% of the cases.
Huib
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Thanx it worked for me!
But now TF3D will come in front when I make a call. So after 5 seconds calling the first screen of TF3D (the clock) will appear. Then I have to press the first button (phone) to get the phone screen again. Verry sad.
I also can not use the program Notes anymore when calling, the program will go to the back. And TF3D will come to the front!
Someone know the answer?
Thanx in advance,
Richard

Hi,
i had the same problem and tried many solutions until i found what was the cause for that problem: S2U2. Once i disabled the S2U2-autostart on boot up, tf3d is always starting the way its supposed to. I simply removed the ilock2-shortcut from windows/autostart and start it manually after tf3d has launched. Not really perfect, but better than everything else for me.
Do you use S2U2?
Regards
MiDiAN

MiDiANx360 said:
Hi,
i had the same problem and tried many solutions until i found what was the cause for that problem: S2U2. Once i disabled the S2U2-autostart on boot up, tf3d is always starting the way its supposed to. I simply removed the ilock2-shortcut from windows/autostart and start it manually after tf3d has launched. Not really perfect, but better than everything else for me.
Do you use S2U2?
Regards
MiDiAN
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I did the same, disabled s2u2, and no more problems. After a while however the hanging came back randomly.
S2u2 is back now. Mothers little helper! I can live with the flightmode on and off solution.
Huib

Quote:
Originally Posted by daveke0201
have a problem with s2u2 v2.04 wvga and 3dtf. after installation it wont boot anymore.
this is what i tried.
start stop 3dtf => not starting
stop ilock2, stop start 3dtf => not starting.
does work with the 1.62.
can anyone help me?
************* reply from ac ************
Try to set a longer "Boot-up Delay" (S2U2 Settings->Advanced).
__________________
Cheers,
A_C
http://ac-s2.com
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I've set my bootup delay in the advanced menu to 20seconds and my problem is gone.

pieterbotes said:
I've set my bootup delay in the advanced menu to 20seconds and my problem is gone.
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Nope, 20 secs does not do the job in my case.
Tried several combinations and different ways of startup, but no deal.
I already had the problem without S2U2 so I cannot possibly blame them.
I still am stuck at the flightmode trick which gives a 100% success.
Huib

Moisture damage perhaps???
herpi said:
Known problem.
The best workaround I found till now:
1. Switch on Flightmode. (use the red phone button press for more than 3 seconds)
2 Reset/Restart
3. Switch off flightmode. The PIN screen comes up automatically.
Works in 100% of the cases.
Huib
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I have the same issue. The first time this behavior surfaced for me was right after i´d applied Zagg´s inivisible shield.
I must admit that i lacked the patience to be leaving the phone for 12 hours drying up.
I´d put it in a dry, warm & well ventilated place for approximately 4 hours and thought that should suffice.
When the phone started acting up i used up all the non-printable 4 letter words i knew and did a hard reset.
Anyway - the problem has showed up about every third time i do a soft reset.
To me the solution has so far been another soft-reset.
Regards

Have the same problem, it's driving me nuts. Hate reseting the phone - it takes ages to boot up.
Won't spend time trying to fix this, will just not reboot/reset often. Hopefully the WM6.5/TF3D official package sometime in October will cure this.

vasra said:
Have the same problem, it's driving me nuts. Hate reseting the phone - it takes ages to boot up.
Won't spend time trying to fix this, will just not reboot/reset often. Hopefully the WM6.5/TF3D official package sometime in October will cure this.
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I combine the flightmode trick together with the SlidetoShutdown, where I use the restart slider.
Doing it this way makes it more acceptable.
Huib

Hmm... I've had success with the 20 second thing but now that is also not working for me anymore... not sure what changed.

pieterbotes said:
Hmm... I've had success with the 20 second thing but now that is also not working for me anymore... not sure what changed.
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It is quite random.
The flight-on/restart/flight-off always works, at least in my tp2.
Huib

so i've tried checking on/off Today/Item/TF3D, tried Flight Mode, and it still won't work. i'm talking like only 30-50% of the time it does work. and I never had PIN1 enabled!
i'm no programmer but it is conflicting with apps we install because TF3D works perfectly when the phone was fresh or hard-resetted. btw i'm using 6.1 Stock T-mobile

[ISSUE] Message application automatically opens during overnight charge

I sue my Tilt2 as my alarm clock, just as my previous device. I always pluged it in overnight and leave it on the Main TF3D screen so I can see the clock during the night.
This worked great with my original Tilt with TF2D.
However, with the new Tilt2, I will wake up during the night and notice that the message application is open.
Anyone have any idea on the cause and the prevention?
(It just occurred to me - is this a result of the OFF-PEAK sync? If so, I would like to keep the OFF-PEAK settings - just not have it open the Message application.)

Bumping - still looking for help with this issue.

Actually I notice that this issue already exist since the earlier beta version of WM6.5 but just amazed that this bug still exist in the official OS for my HTC Touch Pro 2.
Nobody ever encounter this issue?

I only have this issue when I use my Gmail thru IMAP. when I have Gmail Sync configured with ActiveSync this does nto happen.

It is probably your significant other looking through your phone while you are asleep... I had the same problem a couple of years ago, and when I broke up with my ex, it mysterious went away.
Or it could be the 6.5 bug that should have been solved months ago.

I actually caught the phone doing it twice in 5 minutes yesterday during a meeting.
I had just set the phone done on the TF3D home screen and in two mins, it switched to messaging, and I did not recieve any new emails.
Closed messaging, returned to TF3D home and it did it again. But then I watched it for the next 30 mins (it was keeping me up during the meeting) with the only interaction being a screen touch to keep it from timing out.
It never did it again.
I did change the setting on the Today screen, to return to the Today screen from 4 hours to one hour. At least when I woke up a couple of times last night - it was on the TF3D home.
My wife was sneaking my phone from me a few months ago - but that was to get all my contacts for the surprise birthday party she had for me!
Thanks for letting me know I am not the only one with this issue/feature...

tf3d tab openings
Yeah, my tilt 2 will open inbox view on it's own several times a day. Noticed it while it was cradled, and in sleep mode, woke up on the inbox view. It will also open from time to time, the last tab I used on TF3D. That combined with the magnet on my case causing it to awaken and / or unlock, got some pretty weird stuff eminating from the holstered phone.
Fixed the slide to unlock thing and the lock from default to classic, but this continuing annoyance of the mail opening on its own is making me consider to turn off TF3D, and that is the main reason I use this particular device.
I hope someone can find a fix for this soon.
Thanks,

Fix, maybe
I have been having the same problem with my ATT Tilt2.
Yesterday I added messaging to the exclusive programs list in the task manager. I think since I selected "enable the x button to end the running programs" when I closed messaging it shut the program down and then when messaging tried to check for emails (i have mine set for every 5 min) it popped the program up.
So far messaging has not popped open.
RH

mssage applicagtions automatically opens
I just set mine up the same way, will test over the weekend and see if that does it. My Fuze and Tilt to not exhibit this annoyance, even though messaging is not in the exclusive list. This may be a wm 6.5 glitch that we did not see in 6.1 and earlier.
I will repost after testing this for a few days to see how this all works.

Fix Seems to Work
I set my Tilt 2 to exclusive and it seems to have worked to solve this problem.
Fix procedure:
Open your email program and without closing it, open settings/task manager, then highlight the mail program, press and hold, and a window will pop up and option to set as exclusive. This will keep the program from closing when you press the X and therefore keep the program from popping up when pollling your email server.
Good work, and it seems to work after several hours of testing.
MWS

same on my Device
wrote here,
i try ms0529 tip...
maybe is really solved
greetz

LRC said:
same on my Device
wrote here,
i try ms0529 tip...
maybe is really solved
greetz
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mThX ms0529
i think is solved on this way,
tonight i tried this and until now
it will not opens automatically anymore...

Shiny!
I added messaging to the exculsive list and change the Today timeout back to 4 hours. Will let you know tomorrow if it works!
Awesome discovery!

ms0529 said:
I set my Tilt 2 to exclusive and it seems to have worked to solve this problem.
Fix procedure:
Open your email program and without closing it, open settings/task manager, then highlight the mail program, press and hold, and a window will pop up and option to set as exclusive. This will keep the program from closing when you press the X and therefore keep the program from popping up when pollling your email server.
Good work, and it seems to work after several hours of testing.
MWS
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I followed your instruction by putting email in the exlusive and still stick with 1 hour, no more messaging application running in the background, thanks for your tip.

RESOLVED
It worked! The message application was not open when I woke up this morning.
Thanks!

Thanks to [email protected], all I did was validate his idea and write down the procedure. This is a good example of cooperation to solve in a unique way a quite vexing problem.

Anyone notice when you boot up your phone, you will still see the messaging running in the background until you close it then it will return to the Touch Flo page?

Touch pro 2 screen not powering off

Hi folks, having a slight issue with my TP2. It is running the preinstalled vodafone rom for the UK. (version 1.14.161.6 (50207) WWE)
Over the last two days it has stopped automatically powering down the screen when not being used. The backlight switches off as normal, but the screen does not shut down until i press the power button. So if I forget, the screen can stay on all night, killing the battery.
Have been into the settings,on the power screen, and checked all 4 boxes are checked for the times to shut off the backlight and screen on both battery and mains power, and they are.
Any ideas? I have not installed any new software so am stumped. Any common causes of this behaviour?
Cheers
Jon

did you change it through the manila settings tab or start/settings/system/power/backlight ? the reason why i ask is because sometimes when you set settings through manila tab settings, the settings dont work. try deactivating manila, then start/settings/system/power/backlight , then reactivate manila. hope that helps. if not im stumped too.

Is manila part of touchflo? If so I don't have it enabled, I just use spb shell on top of winmo 6.1, so yes was using start/settings/power method.
However, not sure if I have hit upon the problem - I use a program called g-alarm (which is one of the best programs ever), and in it's settings there is a way to keep the screen on when the alarm is snoozed. I recently enabled this, and wonder if it might have messed up the os settings somehow.
I tried uninstalling g-alarm last night and it made no difference, but since restoring a backup, and changing the screen-on setting within g-alarm to off the phone is working normally.
I daren't re-enable the setting to test it, just in case the phone gets messed up again for good this time so this might be a total red herring, and perhaps it was just the restore that did the trick (although have restoring before at least 3 or 4 times with no joy). Will report back when I dare to mess again.

cool to here you are back to normal lol. it would have been a major hassle if you had alot of apps, accounts and whatnot to reinstall. i got really pissed at g-alarm one time when it wouldnt stop going off (phantom alarm) so i will never use it again. you might want to find the thread from where you got it and report the bug. maybe someone else has the same problem and the developer came out with a patch or upgrade for it.

Had same problem on 2 phones
I had same problem on 2 phones- Tilt2 and Kaiser (Tilt). Problem was.... Microsoft Live. When mail account set to ..As Arrived... phone doesn't go to sleep and keeps screen on permanently. Battery was empty in half of the day. After I switched to use POP or IMAP mail and stopped using Live, everything became normal and works excellent.

Here is the Answer
Maybe you have played some games and did not close it by the normal way..
Try to change the registry:
自动关屏时间
HKCU\ControlPanel\BackLight\
"BatteryTimeOut" = 10
Then
另一种方法是在HKCU\ControlPanel\Power\
Display=25 改成自己想要的值
If there is not one,create it by yourself..

Well, it still happened today, so I think that rules out the g-alarm backlight setting. However, it worked fine most of the time, so intermittent.
Papasha, I think you could be onto something there, I do use MS live. Be a shame to lose the push mail though, but that's the next thing i'll try disabling if it recurs again.
Will try that too fishman if problem comes back, the backlight key is present but the display setting is not. Easily created though.

*post Updated on 28-1-10*.
The problem did start recurring again, so I tried the suggestion to disable the hotmail pushmail (sync items as they arrive) and that has definitely sorted the problem. As a very welcome side effect the phone suffers major slow downs far less now, if at all. I still use livemail but just set it to sync every 60 mins.