Plz Help - 8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development

there are 5 kinds of WM6 upgrades.how do i know which one suites my hermes or at least which one is the best?
mine is still WM5,still new at this

i'm new to this as well. i chose the LVSW one.

bteljuice2 said:
there are 5 kinds of WM6 upgrades.how do i know which one suites my hermes or at least which one is the best?
mine is still WM5,still new at this
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The answer for this question have the same as for this other one "How do i know wath car is the best for me?"
Really you must read (lot of read) and then, if you are sure wath you are doing and wath you are looking for, take a test on every ROM....
Of course, Wiki http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Hermes must be your starting point.
Regards.

bteljuice2 said:
there are 5 kinds of WM6 upgrades.how do i know which one suites my hermes or at least which one is the best?
mine is still WM5,still new at this
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jcespi2005 is right - you need to do a lot of reading. This will give you a feel for how stable a rom is and how muck tinkering you need to do to get what you want.
I'd recommend Black 2.0 - it's great and stable. Also the LSVW roms are great, but there were some reports on a White Screen problem for some people. I haven't tried Dutty's rom yet, and I'm eagerly waiting for Kyphurs WMXL0.3 which I also think will be very good.
I'd also recommend flashing Olipros HardSPL 1.40 before you begin because it will help you if you have any problems later.

I will reiterate what ach2 has said.
Read... a lot. Wiki, forums, etc.
Also, I would recommend Black, although others have their favorites.

WTF is with that title. did u read the rles on posting? did u search at all? did u read anything that has been posted? have u followed any thread at all?
this has been asked, answered, discussed, compered, contrasted and debated.
pick a phone, pick a rom. dont like the rom change it.
make up ur own... mind if u have one.
most importantly RTFW do the research. do ur home work. put some effort in.
change the heading on the forum.

Simon,
Wind your neck in mate - your post just makes you sound like you're some jumped up moron with an attitude problem.
There are much nicer ways to tell people that they've asked a stupid question and this is something that has been discussed on this particular forum...at length. Your post adds nothing to the thread apart from unnecessary vitriol and repeats what several other people posted before you - except that they were much nicer about it (and used things like capital letters and punctuation
Either drop the attitude and try and be a little more helpful or ignore posts like this and STFU.
Thanks.

Lordsmiff said:
Either drop the attitude and try and be a little more helpful or ignore posts like this and STFU.
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Cheers! Reason!
Anyway. It is a matter of trying them out and seeing what you like. Personally I started with WMXL 0.20 and am still on it. So I haven't found out what the other are like. I'll try Black 2.0, or 2.5 if its out by then , when WMXL 0.30 comes out. And if some required functionality isnt there, i'll go on to WMXL 0.30.
Basically. Read until your eyes just about fall out on HOW to upgrade. Then just pick whatever rom seems like a good idea at the time. The more important bit is making sure you do it right, then you can flash to a different one later (plenty of good info in the forums and on the wiki).
Maz
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http://maz.net.au/
With too much to say about anything and everything

the famous mr poleman posted this in 2003 and has represented the guiding light and rule on posting rules since that date.
Perhaps maybe somebody could make reference to it WHEN CREATING POSTING TITLES at least.
i express my deepest and most sincerest apologies to all those that i may have offended... i am simply just a little frustrated seeing these posts with nothing but useless headings like pls help or error and like.
so... if the be all and end all of postings could be followed since 2003 and applied to all since that date maybe i would be more helpful and less frusrated.... so for those that didnt know or didnt read perhaps a revisit
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=221545
lordsmiff i bow to your righteousness and will do as u ask when people start following the guidelines and rules that have applied since long b4 u or i ever got here but seemed to be disregarded.
btw i was nice just wait ill i am really upset. at the moment i have been on this forum for 2hrs after working 14hrs and i see topic headings like this. pls forgive me my grumpiness and intolerance. i am usually more helpful and just lost my patience.

We're all grumpy sometimes dude, me included - and I got told the same thing not too long ago ;-)
So not exactly righteous, more of spread-the-love thang ;-)
Join the light side - take the path of righteousness - spread the love!
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Oh, and to be a little more on topic, I've tried them all with no particular favourite, though I do like the LVSW one with the green skinned comm manager

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Fastest WM 5.0 ROM?

Can anyone send my the FTP address for the fastest WM 5.0 ROM I can use on my O2 XDA Exec?
I have 2 links, try them both
LINK 1
LINK 2
Warning: These links may require more than 2 (two) active and working braincells.
Thanks asshole. Seems you don't know how to search either since you didn't send me a link... If you don't have anything to offer to the thread, don't say anything at all.
Windowsrookie said:
Thanks asshole. Seems you don't know how to search either since you didn't send me a link... If you don't have anything to offer to the thread, don't say anything at all.
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"Arguing on the internet is like winning the Special Olympics, even if you win your're still retarded"
Bearing that in mind ill just say this: If you searched (or even looked at the first page) you would find exactly what you are looking for, how do you think i learn't all this stuff? not one useless thread like this i can tell you...
"We" don't get paid to help people, so we find it a bit annoying when people ask questions that have been answered at least 5 times already....
Have a nice day
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Just looking through your recent posts and almost all your questions have been answered before and/or are in the wiki so I'll just give it to you again in case you missed it before
WIKI
SEARCH
Yet, You still haven't show me a link. I dont see anything on the front page like you said. And that's good, you shouldn't be paid, because you're doing a horrible job.
Windowsrookie said:
Yet, You still haven't show me a link. I dont see anything on the front page like you said. And that's good, you shouldn't be paid, because you're doing a horrible job.
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to quote a great sig:
"Give a man a link, and he will solve his problem that day. Teach a man to use search, and he will solve his own problems for life."
Really, all this and you could have spent 5 minutes searching and had your answer by 12:00 (GMT)
Here's a new one...
"I don't know the answer to the question, so I'll post a stupid reply and ruin the thread."
Both the 1st and 2nd pages of this thread contain WM5 ROM threads, perhaps you could read them, discover the +'ves and -'ves of each one and decided for yourself?
Some people...
No, there's not.
I beg to differ
Just a few that caught my eye
See, That wasn't so hard. I was searching for threads with WM 5 in them, and non show up in the results.
Oooooo... that was a funky 5 minutes, eh??? Now now children, let's not upset the ROM builders
I am also very very curious about this human behavior:
People would ask before they think;
People would post questions and request for helps (and angry about not getting any help from perfectly strangers), when they do not want to invest their own time to read through the threads which contain the answers they have been looking for. Obviously, they prefer to waste other people's time...
The same questions have been answered over, and over, and over, and over, again, and again, and again, ...
Learn the lesson, RTFM (Read The F*** Manual), or RTFT (Read The F*** Threads), ...
Put your handbags away children.
It's not hard to look around a bit for information before asking - the layout is such that you can probably find what you want easily.
But coming back with a sh1tty reply is not helpful and doesn't add to the atmosphere of what is generally a good board.
That's my two-bob's worth. A bit of common sense and civility goes a long way. hehe.
Its been a long time since i've been part of this grate forum, i always use a search and 90% of the time i find thread or post which is relevent to my quary.
Search can be the best tool for some body if peoples know how to use it.
You know sometimes people tend to get nervous and impatient to look for something around!!
Then you only need to handle them with some kinda care huh? Needless to say a little time and bengo, there you'll find it. Just open up your eyes and look around dont be so spoon-fed!!
Seriously windowsrookie, educate yourself by looking through the universal topics on WM5, otherwise you'll probably screw up your machine when updating it anyway.
Spend a bit of time on it mate.
tyl said:
Seriously windowsrookie, educate yourself by looking through the universal topics on WM5, otherwise you'll probably screw up your machine when updating it anyway.
Spend a bit of time on it mate.
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Well said, tyl. A bit of research goes a long way... I foolishly upgraded my radio ROM before properly reading the boards and fried my universal. Totally pointless excercise since there was nothing wrong with the original ROM.
Lesson's don't have to be learnt the hard way
Geez, I can't believe we still get people like windowsrookie who goes around wasting people's time (let alone his own time). Seriously, just search, search and search!
It should be the case that a noob can't post until he's done so many searches ROFL!!! (look at my joining date!)
As a famous green guy once said... "You are young, but you will learn."

wm6: worth it or not?

Hi all,
I have a question and I know people will flame but I really don't have enough time to research like I always do before I make my first post on a message board.
In this case though, I just bought a dopod 838 Pro/ Herm 100 and I will be starting a new job and will be using this phone. I have it flashed for cingular with the wm5 rom from this site and it works great!
My question is, I would like to run wm6 on this phone. Like I said I just don't really have much time to search the site and find out more about this. All I need to know is if upgrading to wm6 on this phone can be done yet using it with cingular and if it can, is it worth it?
I did find the page that has all the flashing roms on it for wm6 but I haven't had the time to figure out what each one is.
I hate to be the one to drop the noob question but because of starting my new job I need to flash it soon if I'm going to do it at all and that doesn't leave me with much time to search the boards and really read up on this.
Thanks for your help!
Ben
as you are refusing to take the time to read the f*cking wiki, you should NOT flash your device. you will brick it, then come here crying for help (or come crying for help on some other easily answered question).
until you have the time to RTFW and do the research, just keep the stock rom.
SkyyBoy said:
as you are refusing to take the time to read the f*cking wiki, you should NOT flash your device. you will brick it, then come here crying for help (or come crying for help on some other easily answered question).
until you have the time to RTFW and do the research, just keep the stock rom.
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I am reading around as much as I can. I just though I'd ask the quick question for as much help as I can get. thanks for the help...
Well, it seems you have answered your own question. You don't have time to flash your phone. Reading, research and then flashing will result in success, anything else will result in a brick. From your post it appears you know how to navigate this site so I won't provide the basic links. When you have time, do your research and then flash you phone, it will be worth it.
WM6 is absolutely worth it. The latest builds from each chef are in the Wiki. I use a lvsw derivative on a TyTn and an 8525 and I couldn't even imagine going back to WM5...
That being said, be sure to flash the radio shown in my sig as it seems to work the best on Cingular networks.
Welcome to XDA-Developers btw
JasenR said:
Well, it seems you have answered your own question. You don't have time to flash your phone. Reading, research and then flashing will result in success, anything else will result in a brick. From your post it appears you know how to navigate this site so I won't provide the basic links. When you have time, do your research and then flash you phone, it will be worth it.
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haha, I guess what I'm trying to ask is if wm6 is buggy or even worth it on the phone I have. If it's worth it then I will dig in and try to know enough by the weekend when I'll have time to sit down and try it.
Hmmmm.
Yes you can do the Cingular thing, a couple of roms have Cingular versions, such as Custels v2.5.
I would install Hard-SPL-V7 before you install anything else since it will protect your phone from a lot of possible problems.
It may also be worth upgrading to Radio rom version 1.38 or 1.40, 1.41. seems to be variable in its effectiveness for different folks.
Is it worth it? Yes, speed and stability are much greater, but only if you are prepared to read up and fix issues as they arrive. These roms dont come with a guarantee, and whilst the main ones I have tried (Custel, LVSW and Black) have been stable for me they have had quirks (bluetooth, wifi, etc) for other people that require you to go and seek answers if you encounter them.
If your Dopod is unstable and crashes regularly on its current rom then its probably worth your while, if you need it for your job and its already stable then I would think carefully about it.
By the way, great video series.
Sleuth255 said:
WM6 is absolutely worth it. The latest builds from each chef are in the Wiki. I use a lvsw derivative on a TyTn and an 8525 and I couldn't even imagine going back to WM5...
That being said, be sure to flash the radio shown in my sig as it seems to work the best on Cingular networks.
Welcome to XDA-Developers btw
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cool, that's what I needed to know. I will now dig into the boards and learn all there is to know before flashing my phone.
thanks!
ben dover said:
haha, I guess what I'm trying to ask is if wm6 is buggy or even worth it on the phone I have. If it's worth it then I will dig in and try to know enough by the weekend when I'll have time to sit down and try it.
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Oh, it is absolutely a worthwhile upgrade. Much better than WM5, and the radio that Slueth mentioned is flawless.
HAHAHA gotta love the name " Ben Dover" hahaha. In my famous saying. " Hey you, your an idiot".
All the cool kids are doing it...
Unless you work 24 hours a day every day and NEVER have any free time, then you DO have time to read-up on this stuff and that bull**** excuse you provided is worthless. You don't have to do this before you start your job. What the hell is that? You can flash it at anytime when you have it, and once you'
ve read enough about what you're doing you'll know it takes less than a hour to get it all flashed and apps re-installed. Christ. Atleast come here with a better excuse than you don't have time. I'm sorry. i don't have time to help you any further.
Can someone close or delete this crap. *sigh*
Every goddamn day the same questions from lazy individuals that want everything handed to them.
He asked a valid question. The simple answer "yes, it's worthwhile" would've sufficed. Give it a break or I start handing out bans. I'm really getting sick of this.
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He asked a valid question. The simple answer "yes, it's worthwhile" would've sufficed. Give it a break or I start handing out bans. I'm really getting sick of this.
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How is that a valid question hiden behind the fact that he used BS about not having time to read? You're getting sick of this; how about all of us that have to see the same threads day in and day out from people too lazy to read for a little? There was a thread with this same question a day ago!
How about a "yes", then lock the thread. Thread answered. He has time to post a thread, but none to read the forum?
He's researching now no doubt. It took me 30 secs to post the answer. Show me another thread with this same question plz....
seriously the aggression is unnecessary. lets all try to keep it to the witty one-liners and simple sarcasm
My answer: yes it is worth it. I use my 8525 for work all the time with wm6. However, the official rom will be out soon, and if you dont want to deal with a potential brick you might wanna hold off for that.
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He's researching now no doubt. It took me 30 secs to post the answer. Show me another thread with this same question plz....
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Read the forum like I did! lol
Really, it's not like anyones mad, it's just annoying. No one should rush into flashing, and reading this forum for a few weeks before I did ANYTHING helped keep me from posting threads like this. I saw what others said about the different ROMs. I read the guide and the wiki, then after a long thought over whether or not to attempt my first flash, I did so w/o any problems. i attribute that to taking my time to read. Sometimes the forum needs a little tough-love to get people set on the right path.
It just bothered me that he stated he didn't have time to read the forum because of work. I'm still perplexed over that one. Do they keep the phones at work? If it's not his then he shouldn't flash it anyway. If it is his, then how would "work" interfere with him taking his own personal time to flash his device? Doesn't make sense.
ronfin44 said:
Read the forum like I did! lol
Really, it's not like anyones mad, it's just annoying. No one should rush into flashing, and reading this forum for a few weeks before I did ANYTHING helped keep me from posting threads like this. I saw what others said about the different ROMs. I read the guide and the wiki, then after a long thought over whether or not to attempt my first flash, I did so w/o any problems. i attribute that to taking my time to read. Sometimes the forum needs a little tough-love to get people set on the right path.
It just bothered me that he stated he didn't have time to read the forum because of work. I'm still perplexed over that one. Do they keep the phones at work? If it's not his then he shouldn't flash it anyway. If it is his, then how would "work" interfere with him taking his own personal time to flash his device? Doesn't make sense.
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And his question was answered that it is a worthwhile upgrade and that he needed to do his reading first. He thanked the responders for the replies and went to go do the research. Everyone was happy. Why explode after the fact?
Thread closed then. I've got some post research to do on ronfin44.... Hopefully you don't make a living on this forum doing newbie bashing.
edit: 24 hour ban imposed. A quick search will reveal the reason.

New Rom Poll Rate Your Fav And Say Your Like And What Can Be Improved.. N00bs Wecome.

Ok i said i would make a new one so here goes. This is a place where you can tell what you like about a rom and what you think could be adressed. Please keep it on topic and Maybe the new people can look here first and pick which rom they will flash but before you do please read the Wiki and all the other posts that are stickys and there is a great upgrade guide made by MrVanx which can be found here! So go read... Anyone that has something negative to say well I could careless cuz I'm not here to make friends just pimp my Hermes! this place is full of great cooks and true WM guru's read and learn not post and ask is your best bet in the start
http://www.mrvanx.org/cms/index.php?option=com_frontpage&Itemid=1
Black 3.5 is not included since it is no longer posted or supported on this forum however my black 3.5 super lite is
Please Note new comers that we do not have the time to give nice happy responses to questions that have been asked 1000000 of times so its best to search about your issue or question before starting a new thread I have warned you and will now say that with starting a new thread you leave yourself open to being flamed and abused in all kinds of ways if your question has been talked about before....
this is a good idea. I will be creating an excel spreadsheet to document this if we get some good responses. chefs contact me for log.
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Whats good for one user is not good for another thats why the poll does not make sense. An updated chart of tweaks, programs installed and kernel and perhaps what the rom is geared towards would be more useful.
lets all grow up a little.. if you dont like a thread that someone made then dont post..
Post's have been deleted for not really being on topic
I voted LVSW. It is a Vanilla flavor of a STABLE ROM. I have my own CABs for anything else I use. Did I mention it was STABLE!!!!!
shogunmark said:
lets all grow up a little.. if you dont like a thread that someone made then dont post..
Post's have been deleted for not really being on topic
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Well it's not the first time you delete threads that hit the heart of a topic, remember when i started a thread on WM6 for the Herms long before WM6 was even a thought of running on the Herms and you deleted posts in my thread and changed my topic? It's all kiss ass even between some of the mods here if you ask me In the end this poll still SUCKS!!!
I picked LSVW after using all of Blacks ROM's that produced unstable results with MMS and repeated resets.
As I have only flashed and run two of the WM6 ROMs that have been posted, I don't really know how valid my vote is, but I chose Custel's work. I decided to try his 2.5 Cingular version mainly because of the way Custel handles himself in the forum, and also because of the good reviews he was getting in his threads.
This ROM has been very stabile on my device, even with the plethora of apps I choose to install. It is faster than any of the ROMs I've used, including a few shipped versions of WM5, and the storage and program space it gives me is wonderful.
My gratitude goes out to Custel, all the other chefs, and also to the brilliant people who've created the various tools required to pull off this ... um ... competition. And also to XDA-DEV for it's hosting of this fabulous site.
Regards,
-pvs
Black???
Departure Jasjammina from xda- dev should not be reason rendering his ROM from inquiry popularity. Inquiry without Black ROM them as car without wheels
wpbear said:
I voted LVSW. It is a Vanilla flavor of a STABLE ROM. I have my own CABs for anything else I use. Did I mention it was STABLE!!!!!
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these are my words
Matrix44
DAFTEK said:
Well it's not the first time you delete threads that hit the heart of a topic, remember when i started a thread on WM6 for the Herms long before WM6 was even a thought of running on the Herms and you deleted posts in my thread and changed my topic? It's all kiss ass even between some of the mods here if you ask me In the end this poll still SUCKS!!!
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it wasnt about deleting because they may or may not have hit the heart of the topic, thats all up to personal opinion.. when i saw the topic and replies i was looking at it in a different direction; "can this thread be helpful to others?" so i answered myself yes and continued playing waste management. its not about kiss ass either, its about keeping things calm around here, everyone complains about n00b posts, etc.. but no one wants to help make it a better place.. I would have done the same thing if you had posted this or some n00b with 1 post under their belt and things got out of control.. its simple.. IF YOU DONT LIKE A THREAD THEN DONT RESPOND TO IT... if no one responds then it will fall to the bottom of the list, its that simple
~no reply is necessary, we are just hijacking this thread, if you have a problem with me, or my moderation style then pm
Good to see LVSW on the list. His ROMs have always been very stable.
@shogunmark..... And i agree with you 100% on that response but, Can you see that in the end this is still a fight between JJ's Black and the rest? Custel? Only that austynsnyc is the puppet here Maybe i am wrong but this is why i don't like this poll and if i am then you all have my apologies and ill go back to my corner.
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Good to see LVSW on the list. His ROMs have always been very stable.
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If you cant beat them, join them, so i did.... I voted LVSW #1 overall best, then all the Variants also deserve credit for the final iron works...
Also may i add, That even after the second time around on this poll the first time he was not included, this time YOU GOT HIS NAME WRONG IN THE POLL lol
I'd like to make my vote, but there must be an option to choose more than one version... i think...
And like to see Black in the list...don't understund why isn't in the pool...
Regards.
for those of you that did not follow the first one. Black has been taken out because JJ is not releasing his ROM on this forum and this poll is open to ROM's released in this forum. Yes there have been many polls before and I'm sure there will be many more unless we have one stickied!! Hint Hint... this is a good place to talk about what you like and what you would like improved in the ROM. thanks for the strict moderation. Sorry for spelling LWSV name wrong oops... at least i think i have all the major players this time until the next batch comes along.
Personally i like my ROM's because they have the extra stuff that i never use taken out and the major stuff still left in which give me very large storage to add what ever i like and not worry about it also i always run a 4MB pagepool which i believe is faster and more stable than a 6MB
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Yes there have been many polls before and I'm sure there will be many more unless we have one stickied!! Hint Hint... this is a good place to talk about what you like and what you would like improved in the ROM. thanks for the strict moderation. Sorry for spelling LWSV name wrong oops... at least i think i have all the major players this time until the next batch comes along.
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What about the posibility to choose more than one..... can you do this in the poll?
no the whole point of this really is so new members can come here and look at what other people say about the roms and and others views and maybe help them in finding out which one is right for them with out asking the time ending question ""Which Rom is The Best"
we all know all the ROMS released here are fuken great but some people like different things thats all thats why i ask everyone to write there like and disslikes about the rom the think is the best for THEM... all these roms benchmark the same pretty much so deep inside there are only a few key changes such as kernel XIP and so on but most members dont know about that stuff they just want to know if it works and what cool apps it comes with
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@shogunmark..... And i agree with you 100% on that response but, Can you see that in the end this is still a fight between JJ's Black and the rest? Custel? Only that austynsnyc is the puppet here Maybe i am wrong but this is why i don't like this poll and if i am then you all have my apologies and ill go back to my corner.
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that may very well be... but someone out there is going to read this thread and find some of the informational useful and will make their decision based on it. But i do think that all the roms, even jj's should have been included, he isnt the first chef to move their roms and support, sometimes its just natural progression..
Agreement
Agreement - thank you

Diamond ROM Dev - Soooo Confusing

Sorry to waste a thread but I guess I have a point here:
Coming from Hermes and then Kasier communities (and flashing hundreds of SPL/Radio/Rom on my Hermes & Kaiser for many months) I thought that at least I am able to upgrade HardSpl or Radio or Rom on any PDA.
Now I've got my Diamond and entering the Diamond Rom dev I feel as if I've entered a new website.
What's going on here ? Chefs and developers have teamed up together and are divided into various groups competing with each other. Diamond rom dev is not having the cooperative feeling of Kaisr community at all.
There's no unified (bipartisan) thread for HardSpl. Each group is saying that our HardSpl is the best.
I understand that different ROM developers make different roms. But what about HardSpl and Radio ?
ROM threads are turned to Stickys???
Isn't it something new to this community?
Even HardSPl threads (directly or indirectly) direct us to certain ROM dev teams.
Am I the only person confused here ?
What happened to the bipartisan Moderators ABOVE rom chefs ?
In fact, as far as I can see, Chefs have become Mods and this weakens the unified and bipartisan feel we used to see in Hermes or Kaiser ...etc. communities and throughout the entire xda forum.
Is it only me ? Are there any other confused members noticing that Diamond ROM Dev is taking an unusual direction?
I don't know how it was before, but i agree with you. Rom teams are popping like mushrooms and the threads keep getting bigger and bigger. For a newbie like mee i needed a couple of days just to read in to everything because of the lack of clearnes.
If the Rom Chefs just worked together and share idea's than this would be just great. Then it's also easier to make different languages. Now it salmost all the time WWE en nothing more because if someone wants to do that, they loose the competition of the fastest release.
Also the topic starts can be clearer. Enormous pictures, lettersize 18, etc.... does not help. I think there are some moderators needed here that restore order and are not Rom Chefs
you are right
i am "just" a junior member, but if you check my account you can see i am here for a "longer" time.
so..
i came here from ARTEMIS threads and i feel the same as you but i did not want to mention it as a "junior member"
Old, well known, clever and cool guys went mad here in this section..
i am not sure why.
it "threatens me" a little bit, makes a pressure on me (sorry for poor english, i hope you can understand me.) i feel a little bit unconfortable. something like that.
This is why i made an own ROM based on STOCKs (thanks for HardSPL, for everybody who dumped the ROMs, etc..) and useing tweakapps.
(i don't want to use names....):
As i can see the guys who are makeing the tweaking apps are ok, but some of the guys who are cooking the ROMs has changed in this section.
anyway: ALL RESPECT for those who make DIAMOND better!!!!
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I don't know how it was before, but i agree with you. Rom teams are popping like mushrooms and the threads keep getting bigger and bigger. For a newbie like mee i needed a couple of days just to read in to everything because of the lack of clearnes.
If the Rom Chefs just worked together and share idea's than this would be just great. Then it's also easier to make different languages. Now it salmost all the time WWE en nothing more because if someone wants to do that, they loose the competition of the fastest release.
Also the topic starts can be clearer. Enormous pictures, lettersize 18, etc.... does not help. I think there are some moderators needed here that restore order and are not Rom Chefs
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I'm afraid my point was not about lack of multilanguage roms ...etc.
I do NOT even want chefs to work together and make a brilliant rom for ME. The beauty of any Free Society is in its competition , diversity and plurality.
My point was something else - well I guess i mentioned it in my post
Yea I agree . I have been on these forums a while and this is a bit messy and I guess very daunting if you are a newbie.
1) Please Sticky the ROM Threads
2) Please sticky the RADIO Threads
3) Please Sticky the SPL Threads
Oh and please, please, please, lets start pulling our resources together . I love to try out all the ROMS and if we share our knowledge aren't we in a better position to get what we al want . The Pefect ROM !!
I know I'll probably get shot down in flames for this and my software dev knowledge you can right on a postage stamp but I do know about winning teams.
Bardia Garsha said:
Is it only me ? Are there any other confused members noticing that Diamond ROM Dev is taking an unusual direction?
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You are not alone.
I Agree...
absolutely agree.
personally i'd like to see one thread of hard-spls instead of 4 haha.. its quite cluttered..
Hear die well
You got another yes behind your remarks- Said but true.
I started with XDA Trion - Moved to TytnII and was pretty happy with the set directions- Mod support -bashing of newbies (myself included).
The Diamond ROM forum is "different":
- Not enough Mod's to have a closer look on garbage posted (Oliver- Mark...you do have my PM's )
- A lot of Newcomer's on the Diamond- a lot of reduntant threads.
- INDEED, confusing HardSPL - ROM signed vs. non signed messages. Pointed out the (smallest) finger to the Chefs already - But hey, we need them! So let's not complain - Competition is not bad bewtween them.
I called it already the "War of the Chefs" in a thread , so let us benefit of it though....---> TOO MANY Roms with mostly spin-off's of one build
I saw a message on BePe's thread from a guy asking for less ROM's but Final ones with bug's sorted out. For sure, no one is forced to Flash anyway, but it just fill's the thread's with 100.000.000 time WOW -Downloading now ! etc.
I believe that it is our duty as older dweilers to support the chefs in terms of newcomers direction set-up. They cook, we taste, we give feedback - advice and we don't ask for too much, cause it is free.
Anyway, again, I follow your reasoning and do hope first of all to see better Mod support on the Diamond forum. I know the guys are under-manned, so they should maybe look into a few new mod's (my time zone is very favorable to clean dirt between Australia and Birmingham - tip)
Cheerio
I do believe that we are only at the beginning of a Forum which will grow a LOT seeing the possibilites the Diamond can offer.
Bardia Garsha said:
Is it only me ? Are there any other confused members noticing that Diamond ROM Dev is taking an unusual direction?
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agreed. i started with Artemis, then TYTNII, now Diamond... and i have to say the Diamond part of the forums is a whole new beast
too many roms, so little time, are people forgetting that they purchased their devices so they can be used... its turning out that they are just being flashed constantly on a daily basis.
back in the hermes days, when roms were developed, updated roms would generally be released on a monthly basis after feedback was collected from peoples experiences with the current rom.
i still peek over here now and then to see whats up and it is a bit of a mess.
well, if the diamond forum is a mess, the touch pro will even be worse once wm7 beta is avail for it.
btw. im waiting for the touch pro and will be developing roms for it, but not wm6.1 roms as the kernel and OS itself is a pos.
I think the problem is the lack of structure. It's hard to tell which rom is new from which dev group. Everything is mixed up. A couple of rom devs started to put the date in front of a post with a new rom. I think that's the first step in the good direction.
Hmmm....
Listening........!
where are the mods
we need someone to tidy the forum up
ceevee369 said:
You got another yes behind your remarks- Said but true.
- INDEED, confusing HardSPL - ROM signed vs. non signed messages. Pointed out the (smallest) finger to the Chefs already
I believe that it is our duty as older dweilers to support the chefs in terms of newcomers direction set-up. They cook, we taste, we give feedback -
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haven't we been doing this in Kaiser & other communities ? just look how attentively we (as a little bit more senior members) try to reply and solve brand-new n00bs in other threads.
this thread is different. how can i help a n00b when i myself am too confused what HardSpl to flash ?
this seems to be the beginnig of a commercial rom movement. it's not mentioned directly anywhere, but throught the whole thread I can hear this loud & clear :
We left things complicated , jumbled and unclear so that if you want to know what the whole thing is about , you pay for it.
I tried to seach "How to Hard Reset Diamond" for an hour. couldn't find anything. it's my personal feeling : it's beginning to get commercial.
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personally i'd like to see one thread of hard-spls instead of 4 haha.. its quite cluttered..
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everybody like to see that. But don't you think there's a reason behind this confusion?
Unlike all the other threads, there's an apparent lack of Authoritative Voice in diamond thread.
i coul'dnt agree more, this forum so so messed up.
Even DEV-teams has split an releasing roms as team members of that dev-team, and another member of that team is filling that thread with content...WHUUUTT, i cant explain it properly so hard is it to understand.
I think we need mods to take control and tidy things up a bit.
My vision of the ideal Diamond forum
Sticky:
- SPL's(soft, hard), just one, not a dev and a signed.(al spl's work great so why have many of them)
- Radio's(thread starter sums them up in order of release date and build number)
- Rulez of engagement for everyone who want to post here
Rest:
- For each rom dev team(or single person) one thread with rom info and downloads and the thread title started with a date.
- For questions and such, search first and then ask(NOOBS)
Ill inform some mods here.
gr
If you've ever been in Kaiser's forum then you'll know what's the diff between many versions of SPL. I dont' see why it has to be one SPL only if others make some differences. JockyW2001 knows better. He's been cracking and modifying SPL versions for Kaisers' users. It doesn't mean that Oli is not a good developer. He's the one who started it. Only that now we have our options. It's not their fault if noobs get into trouble trying to understand all of the purposes.Do you know why? Laziness is not tolerable. Lazy to read...Lazy to search...bla..bla..bla...
Yeah! I like this forum clean but not to the extend of " You should not develope any alternative for us! We already have one here!" Now, go to Kaiser Forum and read. Go to Hermes forum and read. Go to other forums and read. This is XDA-Developers Site
Sorry, I said what I want to say.
Cyphol.
liamhere said:
where are the mods
we need someone to tidy the forum up
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No-one has reported that it is needed.
I am willing to do the job, but I do not have a Diamond and will need some input as to what should be deleted, kept, stickied or whatever the case may be.
P1Tater said:
No-one has reported that it is needed.
I am willing to do the job, but I do not have a Diamond and will need some input as to what should be deleted, kept, stickied or whatever the case may be.
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Maybe a good topic to discuss "downstairs" first..
Isn't there a dedicated mod for the diamond-forums?
Or aren't there dedicated mods for the forums?

Latest Official English HTC rom?

Hi Guys,
Anyone have a link to the latest official HTC Diamond rom?
Cheers
Paul
yes, nice 1st post, learn to read
Ever tried the official HTC Website?
wonderiuy said:
yes, nice 1st post, learn to read
Ever tried the official HTC Website?
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What a really nice guy - your parents must be proud.
The official HTC website cannot be used to upgrade diamonds from other providers, like mine is an 02 Ignito.
I asked a simple question, after searching around here the list of official roms seems to be way out of date.
Is it too hard for anyone to supply a simple friendly answer round here?
Thanks
I've seen a few links in other posts of this forum to the latest version. I think you can find them with Search - don't remember exactly where they were.
Here is all the new roms
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=471699
I read two site back and find this, u must remember that if you need something and you dont find it in the FIRST page look at the next page. The answer can be there..
just a tip
That being the case, it's not really the *official* version that you want. You want the latest release to update your ignito branded unit. Precise communications make things so much easier, eh?
Simple friendly answers are common, as long as evidence indicates that you searched first. If you don't understand why people are touchy about this, please read any of the notes about posting to forums. They will explain. Briefly, the 1% of people that provide most of the help are exhausted from repeating themselves. They'd like to move on to new things. Hence the search features of forums. Yes, it takes a while to find exactly what you need. We've all been through it. Others are expected to do the same.
This is not a slam towards you, this is a simple, friendly answer. If you find it abrasive, you weren't listening.
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What a really nice guy - your parents must be proud.
The official HTC website cannot be used to upgrade diamonds from other providers, like mine is an 02 Ignito.
I asked a simple question, after searching around here the list of official roms seems to be way out of date.
Is it too hard for anyone to supply a simple friendly answer round here?
Thanks
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paulrgod said:
What a really nice guy - your parents must be proud.
The official HTC website cannot be used to upgrade diamonds from other providers, like mine is an 02 Ignito.
I asked a simple question, after searching around here the list of official roms seems to be way out of date.
Is it too hard for anyone to supply a simple friendly answer round here?
Thanks
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NOT when what you're searching for is in the STICKIES!!
adwinp said:
NOT when what you're searching for is in the STICKIES!!
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Thanks for all your incredibly helpful replies.
In fact what i was looking for was not in the stickies - if you call the thread that was last updated in August what im looking for your very mistaken (but yes that thread was stickied, but it in no way shape or form contains the latest English ROM).
And to DrewVS - your presuming i wanted the 02 branded crap on my phone? No that is not what i asked for therefore that detail wasn't required.
Thanks a lot guys, really helpful freindly community you got here.
You all need to step off your pedestals and realise that not everyone knows what
RUU_Diamond_HTC_WWE-ME_1.93.456.2_Radio_Signed_Diamond_52.29.25.12_1.0 0.25.05_Ship means.
The strings of numbers mean nothing to me, nothings clear around here and when someone asks for a little help, hey its my first post even to pounce and give all this bull****.
It's almost like you losers get off on preaching about the search and your precious out of date stickies.
Well - thanks again for the help and goodbye.
paulrgod said:
Thanks for all your incredibly helpful replies.
In fact what i was looking for was not in the stickies - if you call the thread that was last updated in August what im looking for your very mistaken (but yes that thread was stickied, but it in no way shape or form contains the latest English ROM).
And to DrewVS - your presuming i wanted the 02 branded crap on my phone? No that is not what i asked for therefore that detail wasn't required.
Thanks a lot guys, really helpful freindly community you got here.
You all need to step off your pedestals and realise that not everyone knows what
RUU_Diamond_HTC_WWE-ME_1.93.456.2_Radio_Signed_Diamond_52.29.25.12_1.0 0.25.05_Ship means.
The strings of numbers mean nothing to me, nothings clear around here and when someone asks for a little help, hey its my first post even to pounce and give all this bull****.
It's almost like you losers get off on preaching about the search and your precious out of date stickies.
Well - thanks again for the help and goodbye.
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Sorry I have not got an answer for you but your right, its funny how the people who contribute nothing feel they have to make up for it by acting self important.
Personaly I think that simply not replying to your post if it offended them so much would have been more polite but obviosly good manners are not well known here.
I suppose that it gives them some sort of meaning, I would not worry about it though, just log in to download files like I do and let the blow hards do the "big I am" routine and stroke there own ego's.
THe good manners aire FIRSTLY to follow the rules... so hitting the SEARCH button be4 asking whatever question.
And SECONDLY, if he cannot recognize that RUU_Diamond_HTC_WWE-ME_1.93.456.2_Radio_Signed_Diamond_52.29.25.12_1.0 0.25.05_Ship is the ROM he is looking for, how can we all encourage him to perform a ROM upgrade? What if he upgrade and BROCK the Diamond.
THIRD: does he knows he need HARD SPL?
wonderiuy said:
THe good manners aire FIRSTLY to follow the rules... so hitting the SEARCH button be4 asking whatever question.
And SECONDLY, if he cannot recognize that RUU_Diamond_HTC_WWE-ME_1.93.456.2_Radio_Signed_Diamond_52.29.25.12_1.0 0.25.05_Ship is the ROM he is looking for, how can we all encourage him to perform a ROM upgrade? What if he upgrade and BROCK the Diamond.
THIRD: does he knows he need HARD SPL?
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Ooooh i can tell the rage is burning here, look at the angry response with all the BIG ANGRY CAPITALS and spelling errors, cool your beans my friend!
FIRSTLY - I did search but alas, could not find what i looked for so asked a simple, polite question.
SECONDLY - Apologies, i dont know how to speak Robot, if you think that RUU_Diamond_HTC_WWE-ME_1.93.456.2_Radio_Signed_Diamond_52.29.25.12_1.0 0.25.05_Ship is clear version numbering - your simply a fool... oh and i think you meant 'I could BRICK my diamond' not too sure what BROCK means...
THIRDLY - I do know how to do firmware upgrade (thanks to a really helpful Sticky!! ...OMG ). Im currently on dutty's latest but dont like it, there are some annoying bugs - so again you assume i dont know that i need HARDSPL? You're wrong again you elitist loser....why not just look at the facts before Assuming things eh?
And..because im in a good mood; i'm gonna add a FOURTHLY - Piss off out of people's threads if you can't contribute anything constructive or helpful, whats the point, it just winds people up.
I realise there are some really hard working people here and a lot of you do deserve the donations, but why do you treat new people, asking general, polite questions like something you've scraped off your boot??? It's disgusting...
Ta Ta
And Thanks Jammy Dodger, i have looked through lots of threads here, and i'm not the only one they've pounced on and likely discouraged from taking part in the community - take care buddy!
The poor guy just isn't really into forums (both reading and posting, in that order ) and ROM upgrading...
What we can only hope for is that he either:
- learns from all of this, starts reading about reading forums, posting in forums and ROM upgrading (including HardSPL/SoftSPL) and succesfully flashes a new ROM, gets the hang of it, starts cooking his own ROMs and contributes to the xda-developer community (maybe even telling some newbies how to use the forum)
or
- he reads all comments, decides he doesn't like us and forgets aboud flashing and even about xda-developers
I definetely prefer the first option!
Come on guys, don't take it too serious!
paulrgod said:
Ooooh i can tell the rage is burning here, look at the angry response with all the BIG ANGRY CAPITALS and spelling errors, cool your beans my friend!
FIRSTLY - I did search but alas, could not find what i looked for so asked a simple, polite question.
SECONDLY - Apologies, i dont know how to speak Robot, if you think that RUU_Diamond_HTC_WWE-ME_1.93.456.2_Radio_Signed_Diamond_52.29.25.12_1.0 0.25.05_Ship is clear version numbering - your simply a fool... oh and i think you meant 'I could BRICK my diamond' not too sure what BROCK means...
THIRDLY - I do know how to do firmware upgrade (thanks to a really helpful Sticky!! ...OMG ). Im currently on dutty's latest but dont like it, there are some annoying bugs - so again you assume i dont know that i need HARDSPL? You're wrong again you elitist loser....why not just look at the facts before Assuming things eh?
And..because im in a good mood; i'm gonna add a FOURTHLY - Piss off out of people's threads if you can't contribute anything constructive or helpful, whats the point, it just winds people up.
I realise there are some really hard working people here and a lot of you do deserve the donations, but why do you treat new people, asking general, polite questions like something you've scraped off your boot??? It's disgusting...
Ta Ta
And Thanks Jammy Dodger, i have looked through lots of threads here, and i'm not the only one they've pounced on and likely discouraged from taking part in the community - take care buddy!
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Owh...
The frustration!
Ahaha he wrote 2 lines cuz i write Brock instead of Brick.
U r without arguments man
Maybe u can edit your signature so every1 here know u are already on a cooked ROM.
Omg I write ROM un uppercase... this is angry behaviour from my side. Sorry.
So u r able to GRAB
And u r able to ASK
Y don't u think about contribute? Or donating? Just a lil'... be4 asking.
I'm off, this discusison don't deserve anymore time
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RUU_Diamond_HTC_WWE-ME_1.93.456.2_Radio_Signed_Diamond_52.29.25.12_1.0 0.25.05_Ship, I hope the following will help:
• RUU_Diamond_HTC: This is an official rom by the manufacture (Hence HTC) for the Diamond aka Ignito amongst other names.
• WWE: Worldwide English.
• ME: Middle East, This is the region part in this case Middle East. In this example, the rom supports WWE and Middle Eastern setting, things like language support, radio type which relates to the network provider specs. From my humble experience, the ME and AR(the later stands for Arabic) specs are the same as European specs.
• 1.93.456.2: (1.93) rom version, latest in this case. (456) region, in this case Middle East. (2), latest patch,, the higher the better.
• Singned_Diamond: The rom will only mount on a Diamond singed with HTC’s own certificate. In other words, the rom will not work on branded Diamonds, like T mobile MDA or O2 XDA, hence the need for hard spl to flash an HTC rom on branded telephone.
• 52.29.25.12_1.00.25.05: Radio version. Most Important factor in reception, GPS and battery life amongs other things.
Hope the above has helped.
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Thanks a lot Omar - thats very useful information.
@ paul:
first, did you noticed the phrase "developers" in the URL? Perhaps you did expect the wrong community...
But nevertheless we could/should help each other, so try this thread if you didn't found it already:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=471699
I guess you get what you are looking for with this linked upload:
RUU_Diamond_HTC_WWE_2.03.405.2_Radio_Signed_Diamon d_52.51.25.26_1.09.25.23_Ship
When I joined this forum, just like you (OP) I never really got any help from anyone here. I did all the searching I need but end up still needing to ask few questions here and there but no one would help me. Now I learned my lesson... you just need to read through the hundreds of pages of information here. It took me five days to understand on my own how to flash the radio. But its just me. I guess I'm slowww. But NO I'm not. I'm just a newbie and newbies are always told to "SEARCH". Your on your own buddy.
Still, XDA Forum rocks.

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