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How long is your battery lasting with WM6?

I just realized that my battery life kinda sucks. I'm down to one day with moderate use.
Had a full charge about 7am, brightness is one from lowest setting, used Live search for about 10min at lunch and IE at the same time, listened to the radio for about an hour, made 3 phone calls for a total of about 25min worth of talk time - 2 of which were using BT (only had BT on when I was in the car). I'm home now and I'm at 33%.
Maybe it was the radio. Other than that, the phones been sitting for most of the day. How about others?

What Radio version are you using
Hi,
What is the Radio version you are using it depends mainly on them some versions it drain the battery I've tried a couple of days a new Radio version 1.54 it is a lot better and I found the battery can stay for about two days average use compaired to the previous Radio version, I have a TyTn HTC is going ok with this settings.

skhorchid said:
Hi,
What is the Radio version you are using it depends mainly on them some versions it drain the battery I've tried a couple of days a new Radio version 1.54 it is a lot better and I found the battery can stay for about two days average use compaired to the previous Radio version, I have a TyTn HTC is going ok with this settings.
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Radio version? My phone shows 02.67.90 This is from Mechle's 02 Prem ROM. I assumed this was the latest.

Latest Artemis Radio Rom
shawndh said:
Radio version? My phone shows 02.67.90 This is from Mechle's 02 Prem ROM. I assumed this was the latest.
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Latest Radio ROM for Artemis is 2.98.90 and should bring you some improvement with batterylife...

Thanx for the link. I missed that post. I guess I just run USPL first, then this? My last ROM upgrade had the USPL prog included in it. Is there a link for just the USPL or do I need to run that at all?

If your spl is 1.11.0000 you don't need to run it again.

meschle said:
If your spl is 1.11.0000 you don't need to run it again.
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Thanx but I just ran SPL anyway, and updated the radio. Everything went well.
After running USPL, I had the problem again with the slow scrolling that I posted about before. Everthing was just running really slow. Then, after I upgraded the radio, it was fast again. (I have no idea why this happens) THen I turned on the phone and TomTom (without Quick GPS) and got 3 to 4 sats in my house for the first time in like 1min. That was the fastest ever. Does this radio version improve GPS as well or is this just a coincidence? However, I'm just happy that I don't have to hard reset again. Will test the battery life tomorrow. Thanx.
BTW: Where do you look to see the SPL version on the phone?

Maybe a coincidence - spl on first splash screen

I haven't noticed any differences. My radio version is 2.98.90, I don't know if it was that to start with or it came with the B&B 4.2 upgrade. I get about 1.5 days with moderate to heavy use, and just about 2 days max.

how do you install this?

hi guys!
Same problem with Battery life on Artemis with WM6!
with WM5, i sure got 2-3 days. and now its just upto one day. By evening my battery is down to 15-30%.
I have tried draining the battery completely and then charging it all night, but this doesnt improve battery life either.
I am using Radio 2.98.90

Hello,
my radio version is 2.98.90 too, and at home, I haven't a really good GSM-receipt (I hope, you'll understand me, my English is terrible). That's the reason why my battery time is really short. Try to disable the GSM and look, if your runtime is much longer.

shawndh said:
I just realized that my battery life kinda sucks. I'm down to one day with moderate use.
Had a full charge about 7am, brightness is one from lowest setting, used Live search for about 10min at lunch and IE at the same time, listened to the radio for about an hour, made 3 phone calls for a total of about 25min worth of talk time - 2 of which were using BT (only had BT on when I was in the car). I'm home now and I'm at 33%.
Maybe it was the radio. Other than that, the phones been sitting for most of the day. How about others?
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Hi Guys, my battery is running fine, around 3 days but if i enable battery status to the today screen, it starts to eat the battery like hell, any ideas ?

petervbeck said:
Latest Radio ROM for Artemis is 2.98.90 and should bring you some improvement with batterylife...
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Looks like my battery life has improved a little. After 8hrs of medium use, I still had 69% batt life. Pretty good. But I also have to report two incidences where I could not answer a call or make a call- reset needed. Got a message saying that the signal may not be avail and I had a full signal?! This has never happened before this radio upgrade. Any reports of this from others?
Other than that, everything else seems fine. May try to reflash later on if I still have this problem, but if it still persists, I'll look for another radio. Not being able to answer calls is a real PIA in business if you know what I mean.

i just tried removing battery status from the today screen and my battery life is good again.... could this be a problem then?

so what is the verdict here? i had a mda compact 2 and the bateyr lasted 5-6 days of FULL use
i upgraded to mda compact 3 and stragight away put wm6 cooked roms on it - ive tried most of them on here including the official wm6 - all seem to only give me about a day batteyr life????
something cant be right here? after half a day im down to 47% odd
Phones should surely last 2/3 days? especially a Mda/Pda???
what is it that drains a battery? is it the programs running, installed ????
ive just installed wm5 again to see if its any better, could i have possibly burnt out my batteyr by cooking so many Roms on it??
someone help as this is driving me crazy!

Battery life is good. With GPS and 234Mhz 6hours.

patterns said:
so what is the verdict here? i had a mda compact 2 and the bateyr lasted 5-6 days of FULL use
i upgraded to mda compact 3 and stragight away put wm6 cooked roms on it - ive tried most of them on here including the official wm6 - all seem to only give me about a day batteyr life????
something cant be right here? after half a day im down to 47% odd
Phones should surely last 2/3 days? especially a Mda/Pda???
what is it that drains a battery? is it the programs running, installed ????
ive just installed wm5 again to see if its any better, could i have possibly burnt out my batteyr by cooking so many Roms on it??
someone help as this is driving me crazy!
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I'm still testing but so far, after upgrading my radio to 2.98.90, I'm at 74% by the end of the day with moderate use. I'm trying to keep the same ROM and not hard reset for a while to see if it improves more (I like to drain the battery to the end and then recharge) . So, I'm at like 2 days with the new radio. This is sufficient for me since I keep a charger around anyway.

Battery life ist around 6-8 days!
Plain WM6 (from o2) firmware with BatteryStatus, Calendar+ on today screen. Bluetooth and WLAN off, some SMS a week, around 5-10 minutes telephone calls a week. Using calendar and contacts regularly some times a day. Using Tomeraider, iSilo, Mobipocket, TomTom/NoniGPSPlot, etc. some times a week. No other system utilities beside BatteryStatus installed!
Surfing over WLAN: battery is empty after 2-3 hours.
I have no problems
Regards,
Manuel
PS: Background light is faulty since last week: background light is completely off on setting 1+2, sometimes even on setting 3, and it flickers permanently. Xda Orbit goes back to o2 next week.

pending programs
Hi,
if you have a battery drain problem you should check your programs first. There are some which really cause high consumption in the background...
so anyone complaining should list his installed progs!

Radio Hermes Problem

Hi,
which is the latest hermes radio upgrade ?
Thanks

1.54.30.10

Radio Problem ????
It would be to your benifit to explain your problem a little mor so that we can help you a better than just a radio build as there may be more to your situation than we know and the you could be back with a no GSM or "briked" device so the more you let us know the more help you can recieve.
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Reaper29 ....
its people like you that make this forum an amazing place to be a part of, spend time at, and benefit from. Bravo to you & your great intentions, sir.
I know of too many forums that have plainly rude members, for no reason at all.

Good place to ask
Been scouring the net for an hour now to trying to get an idea of what Radio Rom would be best for me, thought this might be a good thread to butt in on
I currently have 1.43 with Schaps 4.30 ROM, using T-Mobile in the UK.
Is there a better Radio ROM out there for me? Any improvements to signal would be nice, especially data seeing as it's my main source for the internet at the moment (just moved, broadband is taking too long to get active )

Well , 1.54 is newer than yours based on the #. It might be worth a whirl to try the at&t dialer and see if it works? you could always go back to 1.43 if necessary

I think that's what I'll do, hesitated after reading a few threads that didn't paint the 1.54 ROM's in a good light, but like you say can always go back.

Just to give my 2 cents worth, I was using 1.54.07 since June 2007, It performed very well for me except for whenever I had no reception for an extended period. Once I returned to an area with reception I would have to Soft Reset else my Hermes would not find a signal again. After reading the recent bad reps for 1.54, I decided to downgrade to 1.43 again. What I have noticed since downgrading is the batt is no longer lasting me as long. Normally I have 60-70% batt life left after a normal day with 1.54.07, now I see only 30-40% batt remaining.
See Mr Vanx's report for his current tests http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=358933

Reaper29 ....
its people like you that make this forum an amazing place to be a part of, spend time at, and benefit from. Bravo to you & your great intentions, sir.
I know of too many forums that have plainly rude members, for no reason at all.
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ryaske..... thanks brother just trying to give a little back to a community that has helped me so much

I have a serious Radio Problem...
The battery lasts only 2 hours tops whith the Radio ON, and 3-4 hours in standby.
Ofcourse, the when the Radio is OFF it goes back to the normal consumption rate...
Can anyone help me?
Details:
ROM: Official WM6 (3.54.255.3)
Radio: 1.48.00.10

Is there any problem with radio 1.54.07.00 and battery drain?
I have Cingular 8525 and the battery last at most 6-8 hours, with less than 15 minutes of usage in the entire day.
I had the latest official Rom from AT&T, but last night tried Schap's Rom 4.31 to see if there was any difference. But the battery drains as fast as it used to.
My previous device was an 8125 and I could have the device without a recharge for 2-3 days. This one hardly last a days work.

3G
I've found battery life with 1.47 and 1.54 varients similar- they stink if your 3g is enabled and you're using direct push always on. I barely get the day out of my phone when I'm at my desk, not making a lot of calls.
I've turned 3G off and sticking with EDGE, get at least 2 days life.
Right now I've got Schaps 4.31, and Radio 1.47.30.10
great reception, good data speeds, good life, all good. But don't use the 3G unless you need it.

Having tried them all, 1.40.30.00 radio is by FAR the most battery efficient and stable for MS Push email IMO.

Here is a list of all the radios. 1.48 and 1.50 seem to get good reviews, but I cant remember if thats only in the US or if thats UK too...

nanastas said:
I've found battery life with 1.47 and 1.54 varients similar- they stink if your 3g is enabled and you're using direct push always on. I barely get the day out of my phone when I'm at my desk, not making a lot of calls.
I've turned 3G off and sticking with EDGE, get at least 2 days life.
Right now I've got Schaps 4.31, and Radio 1.47.30.10
great reception, good data speeds, good life, all good. But don't use the 3G unless you need it.
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I have Schaps 4.31 Rom too... I tried disabling 3G and leaving just the 3G. But didn't noticed any difference in the battery consumtion.
I also did a test last nigth. My battery was at 40%, I turned off the radio and the phone) Leave it on my desk without using. 2 Hours later I checked the phone, it was at 10%. I don't get it... the radio is off, the phone is without use, and still drains the battery this fast?

pulsorock said:
I also did a test last nigth. My battery was at 40%, I turned off the radio and the phone) Leave it on my desk without using. 2 Hours later I checked the phone, it was at 10%. I don't get it... the radio is off, the phone is without use, and still drains the battery this fast?
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Was the screen off also?
Did you try that same test with other ROMs, and get the same results?
If yes to both of those ...... try running the same test again... but this time hold the power button until it asks you "power down?". Click yes, and now your phone is 100% off and not just in standby.
The likely conclusions of this test are as follows:
If the battery does NOT drain in this state ... you my friend have a bad battery and simply need to replace it with a fresh one (especially if you bought this phone used!).
If it DOES drain down in this state .. you my friend MAY have bad phone hardware or a short in the battery contacts. Clean out the inside of the phone, and (i would) still try a new battery just incase.
You may also want to run that program "acbPowerMeter".
It tells you the CURRENT your phone is drawing. I would say 110-70mA is normal. My phone is pulling 73mA average with screen brightness two clicks in from the right, not attached to charger, and phone powered ON with 3g enabled but not active. If yours is significantly higher, you have some drain in the software. If its the same, it would point to your hardware (most likely battery)

ryaske said:
Was the screen off also?
Did you try that same test with other ROMs, and get the same results?
If yes to both of those ...... try running the same test again... but this time hold the power button until it asks you "power down?". Click yes, and now your phone is 100% off and not just in standby.
The likely conclusions of this test are as follows:
If the battery does NOT drain in this state ... you my friend have a bad battery and simply need to replace it with a fresh one (especially if you bought this phone used!).
If it DOES drain down in this state .. you my friend MAY have bad phone hardware or a short in the battery contacts. Clean out the inside of the phone, and (i would) still try a new battery just incase.
You may also want to run that program "acbPowerMeter".
It tells you the CURRENT your phone is drawing. I would say 110-70mA is normal. My phone is pulling 73mA average with screen brightness two clicks in from the right, not attached to charger, and phone powered ON with 3g enabled but not active. If yours is significantly higher, you have some drain in the software. If its the same, it would point to your hardware (most likely battery)
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The screen was off. But the phone was in standby.
I will try your other suggestions to see what happens. I'll also try other radio roms. Reading this thread (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=358933), tests seem to show that rom 1.47.30.10 has good performance.
Will post later the results.
Thanks...

I did the acbPowerMeter test.
I get around 162mA Average and a total of 21mAh (for 10 minutes)
With screen brightness on the second click (from left to right, the least bright before backlight off), not attached to charger, and phone powered ON with 3G enabled but not active. No other program running except acbPowerMeter.
I tried turning 3G off (leaving just EDGE) and I got 169mA Average and a total of 21mAh (for 10 minutes). Strange that with 3G off got about the same or a little more.
I tried to do the test with the phone screen off (stand by), but it seems the program doesn't run in standby.
Any idea?

I meant 2 clicks in from the right .. so 2 clicks away from full bright is what I ran at.
I think you might want to start a new thread for this problem.
To give you some more numbers to go on ..
with phone on, bluetooth on, wlan on (and mated to router), no data connection, and screen 2 away from full bright .. my phone bounces from 80-115 sitting there with the screen on. Avg is 96 and total is just short of 8 mAh in 5 minutes.
take the numbers for what they are. keep in mind if your voltage goes down, your current will too. so run these tests at full batt.
search for battery drainage and find your problem , def replace the battery just to be sure its good. Personally, I would just sell the phone on ebay if a new battery didn't fix it. Time = money these days.. just get a new one and know its good

Battery Life in WM6.1

I've been seeing sporadic posts in different threads about battery consumption in WM6.1 ROMS.
Well, it turns out that since starting to use WM6.1, I've noticed a dramatic decline in my battery life. I can maybe squeeze out a day of use with minimal use. If I use HSDPA / Voice / WiFi - forget it, I get 1-2 hours before the battery drops to nearly zero.
I used to get much better life out of my battery before.
I tried playing with different ROMs, then different Radio version - to no avail - battery life sucks.
Any tips / ideas / comparisons on how to get reasonable performance with WM6.1 or is this just my battery having issues?

I think this would be more your device...
To check this, go back to your manufacturers ROM, and see if the same still happens. Also try this test with no 3rd party applications installed.
Poor battery life is usually cause by either:
1) Applications using 100% CPU
2) Faulty ROM
3) Faulty Phone or Battery.
If you're tried multiple ROMs, I'd say you can rule out #2.
I get around 2 1/2 days out of the stock 1350mAh battery on my hermes.

Hi
ygeller , i had some battery life problems with my hermes and i found on another thread some ppl saying to first flash the ATT rom RUU_Hermes_CINGULAR_WWE_3.62.502.3_6275_1.54.07.00_108_UOOS_SVN05_Ship
and then the cooked one. That worked wonders for me, the radio version 1.54.07.00 is the best i tryed so far for battery life and network stability.
I'am using the latest PDAViet rom and no problems so far, with battery holding for 2 to 3 days with normal use.

ygeller said:
I've been seeing sporadic posts in different threads about battery consumption in WM6.1 ROMS.
Well, it turns out that since starting to use WM6.1, I've noticed a dramatic decline in my battery life. I can maybe squeeze out a day of use with minimal use. If I use HSDPA / Voice / WiFi - forget it, I get 1-2 hours before the battery drops to nearly zero.
I used to get much better life out of my battery before.
I tried playing with different ROMs, then different Radio version - to no avail - battery life sucks.
Any tips / ideas / comparisons on how to get reasonable performance with WM6.1 or is this just my battery having issues?
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Please try another radio, i used always the newest en I got the poorest battery performance! Now I use 1.47.30.10 in combination with PDAVIET roms and now my battery holds a day of 2/ 2,5!!

u are not alone
Hi ygeller,
me too have similar issues pls visit http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=392831 for details...
I have issues with charging too with my phone never charging full no matter how long i keep the charger on it get's stuck at 80%...
But good news is that I've arrested the drain now i flashed the PDAcorner pr0 V3 yesterday and through the entrire night the drain was less that 1% but it hasn't solved the drain if I use voice/data cause an 11 min call had my battery coming down from 63% to 16% ..
I guess i am gonna try and flash the stock ROM as compumad says..
I guess at least the charging issue is due to faulty ROM ( i hope)..
Thanks guys for input..

I agree that I get better battery life with the 1.47.30.0, in addition to aquiring a signal faster. The BIGGEST fix for me however was replacing my year old battery with a good quality Li-ion battery. Now I go a full day with hardly any drain using anybody's ROM, of course YMMV

I am having the same experience. I tried several WM6.1 ROMs and they always drained the battery within 1 day. I am back on Schap's ROM now and I can work for up to 3 days with HSDPA and BT on. About 1 month ago I returned my Hermes because of a defect and HTC replaced the complete inner life of my phone. So this can be compared to a more or less new Hermes.
As a comparison, I recently received a Wizard as a gift and flashed it with the WM6.1 ROM of SNN and believe it or not, the battery lasts for amazing 5 days! And that is with GPRS and BT on!
So, are we talking a major device issue, a ROM issue or is there something I'm missing here?

froos said:
I am having the same experience. I tried several WM6.1 ROMs and they always drained the battery within 1 day. I am back on Schap's ROM now and I can work for up to 3 days with HSDPA and BT on. About 1 month ago I returned my Hermes because of a defect and HTC replaced the complete inner life of my phone. So this can be compared to a more or less new Hermes.
As a comparison, I recently received a Wizard as a gift and flashed it with the WM6.1 ROM of SNN and believe it or not, the battery lasts for amazing 5 days! And that is with GPRS and BT on!
So, are we talking a major device issue, a ROM issue or is there something I'm missing here?
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I've been on the current Shamanix`s WM6 Ultimate v2 FINAL [SuperStorage] ROM for a while and indeed the battery drains very quick- I've had to schedule Exchange email to be on for 2 hours now but a simple 20-30 min voice call drains the battery by about 30-40%!
I was on Schap's ROM but was waiting for his latest update. Will have to consider another one.

I have also had the same issue as people here with the battery running down very quickly.I did try going back to schaps 4.31 but did not seems to make a difference anymore.Will try going nack to standard rom and then changed to cooked and post if there is any difference.

are u guys serious? 2.5days out of the stock battery?
my battery is a 1300mAH and i get a week and a bit on standby, constant txting wifi, screwing around, i get at least 4 days.
now that i have a 1650mAH i cant even kill it in a day (wifi bluetooth and gsm all going at the same time)
theres a 3000mAH battery coming in the mail, if im gentle with it it should last.... 0.5 months?

riyazhyder said:
Hi ygeller,
me too have similar issues pls visit http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=392831 for details...
I have issues with charging too with my phone never charging full no matter how long i keep the charger on it get's stuck at 80%...
But good news is that I've arrested the drain now i flashed the PDAcorner pr0 V3 yesterday and through the entrire night the drain was less that 1% but it hasn't solved the drain if I use voice/data cause an 11 min call had my battery coming down from 63% to 16% ..
I guess i am gonna try and flash the stock ROM as compumad says..
I guess at least the charging issue is due to faulty ROM ( i hope)..
Thanks guys for input..
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you need to resync your battery circuit, charge your phone till your phone cant charge it anymore, then drain it till you cant even turn it on (no lights at all), charge it up again and it should be reading correctly.
here is more info about Li-ion and Li-Poly charge circuits.
see subheading "Guidelines for prolonging Li-ion battery life"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lithium_ion

I also had a severe battery drain with several 6.1 ROMS. My main culprit was caused my certain applications not closing properly and running at 50%-100% CPU. The main apps were Internet Explorer, Windows Live, Poutlook, basically network based apps. For some reason the app wouldn't show up as running. It wasn't until I got a new task manager that showed "processes" that I found the culprit. I would make sure all these processes were "killed" and my battery life lasted a lot longer.
I eventually went back to a 6.0 ROM, as I couldn't take all the problems.

pr5owner said:
you need to resync your battery circuit, charge your phone till your phone cant charge it anymore, then drain it till you cant even turn it on (no lights at all), charge it up again and it should be reading correctly.
here is more info about Li-ion and Li-Poly charge circuits.
see subheading "Guidelines for prolonging Li-ion battery life"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lithium_ion
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Unfortunately, I've done that without planning. I am constantly fully charging the phone - then it drains and dies after a few morning phone calls...
This doesn't help...

OK. I am flashing the ATT ROM to see what gives.
Already it's been a chore. I haven't flashed stock ROMs in quite a while - had to extract the NBH file and use in with a cooked ROM wrapper to get it to flash.
Will report back with results.

ygeller said:
OK. I am flashing the ATT ROM to see what gives.
Already it's been a chore. I haven't flashed stock ROMs in quite a while - had to extract the NBH file and use in with a cooked ROM wrapper to get it to flash.
Will report back with results.
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Have Flashed ATT, then PDA Corner Pro V3. I didn't have much faith in the voodoo of flashing the official ROM to magically repair stuff - and so far I can't say that I've seen much change...
too bad...

ygeller said:
OK. I am flashing the ATT ROM to see what gives.
Already it's been a chore. I haven't flashed stock ROMs in quite a while - had to extract the NBH file and use in with a cooked ROM wrapper to get it to flash.
Will report back with results.
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You put PDA into bootloder mode and the flash, no need to jumpthrough hoops.
Actually the AT&T Official has repaired numerous bad flashes for me, is a lifesaver.

I have been a user of the stock AT&T WM6 Rom for many months. Before that, I had the stock Cingular 8525 WM5 Rom, and many of the cooked WM6 ones, starting with an early Black, a couple of Custel's, Sleuth's, and a few others. I now use personal derivations of the stock AT&T WM6 Rom that I have been cooking up over the past few months.
I have NEVER had good battery life on my 8525, with ANY ROM at all. Left alone, my battery dies after only a few hours. I have learned to live with this, always carrying a second (charged) battery, and I have chargers at home, at work, and in my car, in order to deal with the issue.
I must ask, when others say they get 2 or more DAYS out of a charge with "normal use", please define what "normal use" is for you.
My "normal use" includes checking 4 email boxes, one of them push, one at at 30 minute intervals, and two hourly. I use PocketWeather, which I have doing updates at 30 minute intervals for 4 locations. 1-calc updates monetary exchange rates daily. I make/receive only a couple of phone calls daily (yes, a BIG battery-killer), and I rarely receive text messages. No MMS at all. I utilize Bluetooth devices during my commutes in both directions, only use WiFi at home (another big battery drainer, but since I'm at home, it doesn't matter). I keep the IR port turned off unless I'm actively using it. I am on the internet with my device every chance I get, using the normal AT&T WAP access point with an unlimited plan.
I feel that with the amount of usage I get out of my device (especially Internet and emails), I can accept the poor battery performance.
But I am curious ... those of you who claim much higher numbers for battery life under "normal usage" ... please explain what "normal usage" means to you. I have never seen anything close to the numbers that have been posted by many.
FWIW, my two batteries are: 1 stock 1300mAh, and one is a Boxwave 1350 mAh. Both are well over a year old.
-pvs

pvs said:
I have been a user of the stock AT&T WM6 Rom for many months...
...I have NEVER had good battery life on my 8525, with ANY ROM at all. Left alone, my battery dies after only a few hours. I have learned to live with this, always carrying a second (charged) battery, and I have chargers at home, at work, and in my car, in order to deal with the issue.
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I'm forced to agree with pvs. I'm in a very similar situation: I use the stock AT&T WM6 ROM, although I've used a couple of other ROMs and Radios before this.
If I set my 8525 to auto-poll my 4 mailboxes every 15-60 minutes, I always notice a definite decrease in battery life. In the beginning, I'd get the "low battery" notification before I even left work late in the afternoon (this is after getting a full charge the night before). In between then and now, I turned off auto-polling. I couldn't get any new mail unless I did a manual send/receive...but my battery life improved dramatically; I could get nearly two full days' usage out of it before having to charge at night.
I was fairly confident it had something to do with that data-connection required to update the mail, and I feel that it's confirmed: 3 days ago, I found a registry edit that turns off the 3G/data connection after being idle so many minutes (I have mine set to 2 mins). I can now auto-poll my boxes, but my battery life has decreased again...not QUITE as bad as before, but I pretty much have to charge it every night, now.
(Additional "normal" usage for me has always included using Bluetooth for a headset and several calls during the day, varying in length...around 30-50 minutes total talk time, if I had to guess.)
Frankly, I'm surprised at the people who say they're able to leave their data connection on all day (even if it's sending no data in certain moments) and see no appreciable battery-drain. This is my second 8525 and second battery, and my experience has remained the same.
I was going to try and find some sort of push EMail solution...but to make matters worse, I've been doing research and unless I'm misunderstanding things, it looks like WM6's version of "Push EMail" requires that "constantly-on" data connection. I'm frustrated, and I'm seriously considering getting a Blackberry.
If someone can come up with some alternative ideas, I'd love to hear them, but...even though I love my 8525...my patience is starting to wear thin with it.
(ATT WM6 2.15.502.3, Radio 1.40.30.00)

Superion said:
I'm frustrated, and I'm seriously considering getting a Blackberry.
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If you want to leave your connection on all the time and have a battery for the day and night....Blackberry. My tytn is fun to play with and flash but for my email it's blackberry.

bartybet said:
If you want to leave your connection on all the time and have a battery for the day and night....Blackberry. My tytn is fun to play with and flash but for my email it's blackberry.
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Good grief. Is this the consensus of everyone? I'd hate to give up my 8525, since it has Windows Mobile versions of what I work with, plus some pretty nifty games and apps...but I want a device I can both work AND play with. So far, the 8525 is falling down on the Work/EMail end.
I've dodged the blackberry for so long because of 1) no touchscreen, 2) it lacks the versatility of a true PC (ideally, PCs can be used for work and play; blackberries seem meant primarily for work). Plus, I don't know if the Blackberry's "push" EMail features will work any better with my particular mailboxes (i.e., it may have to constantly "poll" those boxes as well, which may result in similar battery drain).
BTW: It's noon here, after 3-4 calls this morning (around 25 minutes or so), EMailboxes updating (2 at 30 mins, 2 at 60 mins), Bluetooth off, and having read 2 CNN articles (and closing it right after)...my 8525 is at 70% power. X-(
(ATT WM6 ROM 2.15.502.3, Radio 1.40.30.00)

terrible battery life!

Hi All
My Diam100 has the worst battery life of any HTC I have seen and is far worse than my Diam140 - which makes no sense unless it is the HSDPA part of the radio stack.
Also, My diam100 drinks the whole battery on satnav GPS inside around 3 hours. (I am using CoPilot Live 7.0)
I am running the european release ROM:
RUU_Diamond_hTC_Asia_HK_WWE_1.93.831.1.exe
with the 1.00.25.05 radio stack
any thoughts here? I wonder if it is worth turning off HSDPA?
Yours
Leon

search before you post
your not the 1st or will be last to start a thread like this
try a cooked rom...with the tweaks mine is now lasting 4 days

thanks, buddy
Will-do. I would dearly love to understand why the GPS is so power hungry and why HSDPA empties the battery so quickly.
I'll certainly try a cooked ROM or two now I have it unlocked and HARD SPL'd
Thanks for the advice
Yours
Leon

liamhere said:
your not the 1st or will be last to start a thread like this
try a cooked rom...with the tweaks mine is now lasting 4 days
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I have the same ROM and Radio ROM but mine hardly lasts 1 day ... probably too much WiFi searching?

Using 3g od HSDPA really drains the devices battery. I only use G (unless I'm doing some serious surffing - so My batter lasts nearly 3 days - mainly 2 though...

Cooked roms like Dutty's v.1.4 has tweaks to increase battery performance. And if you are not using the HSDPA or 3G services just disable it so you can save battery. Well I am happy with the battey life because it is better thn some Nokia's battery's/

Agree with all above:
Battery does suck.
Disable 3G, BT, WIFI, Beam when not using makes my batt last 2 days without making too many calls. Which imo is not that bad.
Last friday i used all of its features (heavy usage), 3G, GPS, WIFI and etc made alot of calls and the batt died about 10hrs later.

you sound surprised??!!
the diamond is one of the most powerful phones on the market at the moment being put up directly against the iphone 3g which has terrible battery life as well.
weigh it up, you have a 900mah battery over 520mhz processor vga screen oh yeh its less that half the size of an iphone.
i think it does ok

pj0011 said:
the diamond is one of the most powerful phones on the market at the moment being put up directly against the iphone 3g which has terrible battery life as well.
weigh it up, you have a 900mah battery over 520mhz processor vga screen oh yeh its less that half the size of an iphone.
i think it does ok
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well said.
too right you are - I'll take one of these over an iPhone any day

since we are hot on the topic...
anyone tried the extended battery yet?
1350mah or the 1800mah from china?

i've heard that the .03 radio rom should spare the battery life a bit more than the .05., at least within europe.

Radio 1.09.25.23 drains battery

Hi, I have recently installed the new HTC_SPA_2.03.412.2 rom wich cames with Radio_Signed_Diamond_52.51.25.26_1.09.25.23, and now the battery life has been reduced to less than 6hrs in stand by and it is heating a lot (previouslly it only got hot and with poor battery life when WIFI was on)
I have a US Diamond originally unlocked phone and here we have 850/1900 band.
Has anyone had similiar experience? Wich radio do you recomend?
Thnks

ianchi said:
Hi, I have recently installed the new HTC_SPA_2.03.412.2 rom wich cames with Radio_Signed_Diamond_52.51.25.26_1.09.25.23, and now the battery life has been reduced to less than 6hrs in stand by and it is heating a lot (previouslly it only got hot and with poor battery life when WIFI was on)
I have a US Diamond originally unlocked phone and here we have 850/1900 band.
Has anyone had similiar experience? Wich radio do you recomend?
Thnks
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I'm not sure but may be I'm living same problem its draining. I'm not sure because I started to use push mail same time with this Radio.

Pushmail+3G is really a horrible battery drain in general. No wonder. Data connection is up all the time and a PING is sent every 15 seconds from push server (if you use Z-Push as I do).
Option A: disable 3G for most of the time. If you surf enable 3G.
Option B: use 1.08.25.20 which gives me the best pushmail + 3G battery life so far. I always go back to 1.08.25.20
P.S. I think most people from the radio thread aren't using pushmail. So I would take their battery life tests with a huge grain of salt.

No, absolutely no battery drain.
(not more than others)

Here in Europe (Netherlands), same radio ver and Z-Push with 3G on.
If I do not receive / make calls I can _easily_ get 48hours out a full charge.
If I turn 3G off (as I also do most of the time) I can get 2 days without recharging even with busy work days (SMSing and calling quite a lot).
If your diamond is also generating a lot of heat, I'd say it isn't the reception or radio, but a process / program on the ROM is using the cpu at full strength all the time... then the battery won't last long whatever you do.
If I run TomTom on the battery (full time CPU and GPS usage) with the phone turned off, I can drain my full battery in 2 hours .

the radio works fine for me, and if you use push mail of course the battery will drain much faster...

what is push mail? download email with pop3?

asticinzano said:
Pushmail+3G is really a horrible battery drain in general. No wonder. Data connection is up all the time and a PING is sent every 15 seconds from push server (if you use Z-Push as I do).
Option A: disable 3G for most of the time. If you surf enable 3G.
Option B: use 1.08.25.20 which gives me the best pushmail + 3G battery life so far. I always go back to 1.08.25.20
P.S. I think most people from the radio thread aren't using pushmail. So I would take their battery life tests with a huge grain of salt.
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you're very right dude
I went to Option B, battery performance is awesome, about 1,5 - 2 days.

Same here [Europe, HSDPA, Exchange mail sync always on]: awful battery life with 1.09.25.23 on the last Dutty and new PDACornerIllusion v.3 ROMs.
I usually go back to 1.08.25.20 after each new radio test but this time running 1.11.25.1 for the last few days and so far very happy with both signal level and battery life.

mgs333 said:
the radio works fine for me, and if you use push mail of course the battery will drain much faster...
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for me too , best radio for Romania

same here, 1.09 it's pretty good, with normal usage i can get to 3-3,5 days.
(some wifi, some push mail, sms & calls) but not through 3g, i've turn it off..
Romania/Vodafone

it drains battery rly fast...with high usage:listening musi for about 2hours with volume set to max, surfing internet during 30minutes, sending some sms...without 3g, then its down !

tomorrow it's my 4-th day, and yesterday i've listened to music like 30min, and sms/call /wifi , today i used the wifi like 30min, voice like 20min, am 5 sms...

@altcineva2009 : What rom are you using ? Where do you live (country) ? And is your 3G set to ON ?

i see they got some problems with the forum.
i'm using the latest official rom, country: Romania, operator: Vodafone, 3g is off, i turn it on only when i need it

ianchi said:
Hi, I have recently installed the new HTC_SPA_2.03.412.2 rom wich cames with Radio_Signed_Diamond_52.51.25.26_1.09.25.23, and now the battery life has been reduced to less than 6hrs in stand by and it is heating a lot (previouslly it only got hot and with poor battery life when WIFI was on)
I have a US Diamond originally unlocked phone and here we have 850/1900 band.
Has anyone had similiar experience? Wich radio do you recomend?
Thnks
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I'm suspecting that this radio (1.09.25.23) is not a quad band radio, and it does not support 850MHz band. Open your dial pad and dial *#*#364#*#* and look at the "Band" field, it should show either "3: 850" or "2: PCS" (1900MHz band)
I have 1900MHz towers around my place in South Bay Area, but the signal is significantly weaker than the 850MHz ones. The end result is that it drains the battery faster.