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Bad news: there will be no ROM upgrades to Windows Mobile 5.0 for existing Windows Mobile cell phones
May 13, 2005 [General]
Distributors and operators want you to buy new phones with Windows Mobile 5.0 instead of upgrading your old phones to Windows Mobile 5.0!
Interestingly ROM images with Windows Mobile 5.0 exist for HTC Typhoon (Orange SPV C500, Audiovox SMT 5600, etc), for HTC Blue Angel and other models, but they will not be available for customers, because operators and distributors want you to buy new phones with Windows Mobile 5.0 instead of upgrading new ones...
Smartphone Thoughts news website got an information from Orange UK about Windows Mobile 5.0:
Orange is looking forward to launching the new Windows Mobile platform across a range of attractive devices in 2005. The key benefits to customers and to Orange will be an enhanced phone experience, increased customisation possibilities, as well as improved overall performance.
Florian Seiche, Director of Devices, Orange Group
We have also got information from other sources that there will be no upgrades to Windows Mobile 5.0 for existing Windows Mobile phones. The only ROM upgrades to Windows Mobile 5.0 from Windows Mobile 2003 will be available for some Pocket PC PDAs (not phones) from HP, Dell, and some other vendors.
Conclusion: don't buy any Windows Mobile phone if it is not powered by Windows Mobile 5.0 or if a vendor/distributor of given phone is not giving official promise that upgrade to Windows Mobile 5.0 will be available.
Please note: first official devices with Windows Mobile 5.0 will be available in August 2005. It's also important to notice that Windows Mobile 5.0 works also in low resolution of 176x220 and technically speaking it can work on any Windows Mobile phone

Who cares? We'll get our un-offical updates here in xda-developers anyway as usual

How are they gonna obtain the Original Rom?

vbguru613 said:
How are they gonna obtain the Original Rom?
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How did we got WM2005 or WM2003SE (more than one!) for Himalaya? How did we got WM2003SE for Wallaby? In many-many ways which will be not known probably for us

i ampraying they get the blueangel rom!!

no need to worry man...
There's no reason to worry about the rom..
BECAUSE THIS IS XDA-DEVELOPERS MAN....
we are here the best with the best!

No worries dude! everything is upgradable here in xda-developers.com 8)
I never expect to have WM2003SE on my Wallaby device, but the great guys here has made it! Many thanks to all people here in this forum

It's sad that this is the case. My blue angel rocks, and it's less than 6 months old. Thanks to xda-devs we'll get WM5 These guys rock

let not forget the xda2i... hehehe..would love to have this baby running on wm2k5

BLUEANGEL WM 2005
This forum can do anything!! This is the exclusive kickass XDA think-tank on a www.. level !!! I am confident that before it is all over with, our fellow forum members will have the WM 2005 runnig on the BlueAngel and someone might even take it a step further and probably make up a streamline (simulated) version to run on and XDA I!!
It all starts with an idea and everyone digs in and can have it solved in hours or a day at the latest. Totally freaking AMAZING!! 8) Thanks to all who have helped us all!!! :lol:

WM 5 on HTC Typhone working
Hey msmobiles.com has screenshots of a typhoon with WM 5. i would kill to get a rom on mine from that phone. It says its availible to a closed group of developers. Developers log on here!!!!!
http://www.msmobiles.com/news.php/3848.html

That would be sweet.

Distributors and operators want you to buy new phones with Windows Mobile 5.0 instead of upgrading your old phones to Windows Mobile 5.0!
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Correct is all about money, BUT
as for me and my GSM SP and many other GSM SP's arround the world have their subscribers locked into a 24 month contract?
What do we do then?
I chatted to the support for iMate on www.clubimate.com last Friday and they also said there was no upgrade for the iMate 2020 PPC. In fact I was told that "testing" was not complete. Yet Dell was very quick off the mark and annonce imediately (the day after, MS annoncement) that ALL Axim X50 Handheld Family. (http://www1.us.dell.com/content/top...ce/en/2004/2005_05_10_rr_000?c=us&l=en&s=corp)
Now that is service!

Qtek 8020 Smartphone - Upgrade to Mobile 2005?

Is there any Mobile 2005 version out there who will work on a Qtek 8020 (runing Windows Mobile 2003 SE)?

non of the pocketpc htc devices can share rom and smartphones use a whole different family of cpu's
so unless qtek release it or leak it then there is no big chance of getting 2005 on your device

okay, but have Microsoft released a Smartphone version of mobile 2005?

ms dont release roms for devices such as pda's or phones with ms software on them they release a basic rom to the makers of the devices and they can give them for free or chage people for them or
do nothing if they'd rather have people buying new devices with the new os on

But why are the Pocket PC version out and not the Smartphone version?

Give the poor guy Rudiger a brake, he has answered 2 of your questions, he like most of us dont have a cristal ball nor do we work for microsoft.
Want to know more about the smartphone version then read the ms web page. Ask bill. Go to a smartphone site.
You cant buy 2005 on a cd, in shop or even on a device at this moment in time.

Sorry for asking... tought the meaning of forum like this is to get answers... but maybe not here...

But it is, just sometimes you get answers that may be you dont want to read, thats also the idea of forums.

Agree! Still can't find any sites where I can find information about how to buy or download WM2005... surfed all Mobile 2005 related MS sites, without finding any information... just have to wait for a new device with preinstaled WM2005... thanks...

Microsoft only releases WM2005 to mobile phone makers (such as HTC for our devices). It is then up to each company to choose to release an update for their old phones with it or to make new phones with it.
Microsoft has nothing to do with the end user.

joamyhre said:
Is there any Mobile 2005 version out there who will work on a Qtek 8020 (runing Windows Mobile 2003 SE)?
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OFFICAL !! Dopod (HK) Press Release on WM6 Upgrade

hope some of you know chinese
the release said from 7/2007, dopod hk will release wm6 for D810 838 pro and U1000 ...
多普達為用家提供Windows Mobile 6升級服務
838Pro、D810以及U1000免費升級
二零零七年五月三日（星期四）香港訊：智慧型手機領導品牌多普達國際股份有限公司（Dopod International）今天宣佈，將為所有838Pro、D810以及最新推出的U1000用家提供免費Windows Mobile 6作業系統升級服務。
從二零零七年七月起，多普達將陸續提供838Pro、D810以及U1000免費下載Windows Mobile 6升級軟件服務，透過下載該軟件，用家便能把手機的作業系統由Windows Mobile 5免費升級至Windows Mobile 6。
多普達國際股份有限公司行政總裁董俊良先生說：「藉著為所有838Pro、D810以及U1000用家提供免費的Windows Mobile 6升級服務，我們讓用家親身體驗更完善的流動產品實用性；而為商務用家而言，他們則能透過Microsoft Exchange Server 2007更有效地管理商務資訊。再配合多普達強勁且創新的產品，用家能更緊貼資訊科技的極速發展。」
多普達將會繼續提供優質和時尚兼具的產品，滿足用家追求時尚生活與流動通訊的需求，重申多普達致力讓用家親身體驗Enjoy Mobility的承諾。
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xplode said:
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obviously
...users can be more responsive to the dukes of IT development ...
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the press release in English is at this link
http://www.dopodasia.com/global/SEA/news/20070503_WM6_upgrade.html
cheers

..my bet is that even this OEM WM6 ROM upgrade can never match all the wonderful ROM cooked by our great chefs here..

kipe said:
..my bet is that even this OEM WM6 ROM upgrade can never match all the wonderful ROM cooked by our great chefs here..
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i think so too...

leo-chan said:
i think so too...
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Yea... home cooked meal is always the best ..we love xda developer's kitchen...

kipe said:
Yea... home cooked meal is always the best ..we love xda developer's kitchen...
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Totally agree. The cooked roms are stable, slick and fast with all the crap removed.
Personally I would be happy to never load another manufacturers bloated version but thats just my opinion. I'm sure others may disagree and probably have valid reasons for doing so.
I'm just going with what works best for me.

For stability, I think official ROMs are always the best. However for "performance", cooked ROMs may excel because "useless" and "branding" stuff are removed. So the best way would be, ROM chefs here take the official released ROMs, remove the rubbish, add the good stuff and cooked a NEW rom

That's the Great New for me, It must be more stable than the cook Rom!!

Why released on July07.....

ctohang said:
That's the Great New for me, It must be more stable than the cook Rom!!
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...don't be too optimistic about that bro..
..afterall, all the great chefs are here, & not with dopod

Press Release: Dopod International Offers Windows Mobile 6 upgrade

http://www.dopodasia.com/global/hke/news/20070503_Dopod_WM6_upgrade.html
Hong Kong: 3 May 2007 (Thursday): Dopod International (H.K.) Corp. Ltd. (“Dopod International”), a leading PDA Phone and SmartPhone provider, today announced its support for existing users of 838Pro, D810 and the recently launched U1000 to migrate from the Windows Mobile 5 operating system to an improved platform, Windows Mobile 6. This can be done for free and is applicable to all current owners of these devices.
From July 2007, Dopod International will offer current users of these devices a free download of the upgrade code which will enable users of these devices, currently running on Windows Mobile 5, to upgrade to the Windows Mobile 6.
“This upgrade from Windows Mobile 5 to Windows Mobile 6 will enable our users of 838Pro, D810 and U1000 to enjoy improved usability, and for our business users to better manage their business information which is based on Microsoft Exchange Server 2007. This will also allow our customers to continue to stay connected through our innovative and powerful products,” said Jack Tong, CEO of Dopod International Corp.
All upcoming devices will continue to reinforce Dopod International’s commitment to let users Enjoy Mobility and will continue to cater to the demands of consumers looking for powerful yet stylish devices to enhance their mobile lifestyle.

Next time please do a search http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=305630 okay!
cheers

This is great
With an official ROM, our masters will only have to fine tune the official one instead of correcting bugs
There are perfect ROM on our way

fluke said:
Next time please do a search http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=305630 okay!
cheers
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fdx, tu não perdoas, nem aqui lol

It seems that WM6 is already available for Asian HTC brend Dopod for :
U1000 (HTC Advantage)
P800W (HTC P3300)
CHT9000 (HTC TyTN)
CHT9100 (HTC P3600)
Press News in in french :
http://www.mobinaute.com/73636-wm6-ten-pdaphones-glofiish-m700-x500.html
which gives a link to :
http://www.dopodasia.com/global/tw/news/20070503_NR_Dopod_WM6_Upgrade_TW.html
Also, according to the same news, HTC will upgrade their equivalent European devices (except the HTC P3600) by June.

Error. Double message

I don't understand why Dopod will upgrade to WM6 but not HTC ??
And even though why there will be an upgrade for the P3300 for all operators but not for the 3600 ?

If HTC had just acquired Dopod, knowing that HTC would not release WM6 update, would this affect the decision od Dopod to release an upgrade to WM6 since they are under a new management? hmmmm....

nato said:
If HTC had just acquired Dopod, knowing that HTC would not release WM6 update, would this affect the decision od Dopod to release an upgrade to WM6 since they are under a new management? hmmmm....
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If the space shuttle went against the rotation of the earth too fast would it slow the world down???

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Any News on O2 XDA Flame WM6?

(Anxiously waiting for the WM6 ROM)
Read this...
O2 Asia is about to offer free Windows Mobile 6 upgrade for the Xda Atom Life! This free update will be available to all current Atom Life users, and will involve either a download from the O2 Web site or a visit to one of its service centers. The upgrade will change the operating system on the Atom Life from Windows Mobile 5.0 Pocket PC Phone Edition to Windows Mobile 6 (WM6) Professional.
Since its availability from May 12, the Atom Life will become one of the first commercially-available Windows Mobile products to sport the newer OS. Atom Life handhelds sold in stores from June onwards will also be preloaded with WM6. In comparison, Dopod, which will be acquired by HTC, will be upgrading its selected devices to WM6 in July.
O2 Atom Life will still feature its enhancements, the O2 SMS Plus and O2 MediaPlus. They have been tested on the new OS, and will still be available on the Atom Life after the upgrade. O2 added that they are currently testing WM6 on its upcoming Xda Flame (Specifications) and all of their phones which will be launched in 2007 will be opearting with WM6. The only thing left is to hear about an upgrade for the Xda Zinc and Xda Graphite soon.
Source : cnet

Im hopeful, but o2 is generally slow at this type of thing so I would not be to impatient. For my uses WM6 doesn't offer much more either. But its always nice to have the latest...

I found this while googling other sites about the flame.
"Wm5 disapointed but i made the sales person call his friend who works at the o2 shop in hong kong and he said that wm6 will be available in a month. They are still testing it and i will have an update as soon as it is released."
I don't know how realiable this is but who knows.
From this page...
http://forum.mypdacafe.com/viewtopic.php?t=13042&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=270

Hi guys,
Just got a negative reply from O2
Here goes
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Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 4:34 PM
Subject: [Case#BF19151/1] Flame - TT0 - WM6
Dear Jim,
Thank you for contacting O2 Asia Technical Support.
You may wish to be advised that O2 has recently released the Windows Mobile 6 upgrade for Xda Atom Life users. Aside from that, O2 Asia currently has no plans of providing WM6 for current models including XDA Flame. You may wish to refer time and again in the near future to www.seeo2.com for further information on the devices with Windows Mobile 6.
Please inform me of any other assistance that you may require. I wish you success in your future endeavours.
Sincerely,
Judith Taan
O2 Technical Support (Email)
Asia Pacific Region
SACODE: jutaan#
For full listing of retail outlets and information on the latest products,
please visit http://www.seeo2.com

Overall, faster and stable. Better than wm6 838pro. I use spb full keyboard, just as good as a qwert kb. Batteris bad, cannot stand for one day for normal use, also the volumn of speaker is weak that cannot always hear phone rings. hope can improve in near future. I do not need wm6 as no material difference with wm5, I do not use office in pda....

I wouldnt give up just yet fellas, I mean think about how much HTC and Dopod denied they would do WM6 ROM or even a GPS ROM for the trinity, and sure enough eventually both of those were announced etc.
Im just thinking come next month when alot more WM6 Roms roll out, O2 might jump onboard as well, whats the point of having a pretty powerful device, but being too cheap to give consumers a WM6 Rom?

Osir1s said:
Im just thinking come next month when alot more WM6 Roms roll out, O2 might jump onboard as well, whats the point of having a pretty powerful device, but being too cheap to give consumers a WM6 Rom?
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I agree. I'm sure something like this would happen. It's pretty stupid to release such a powerful PDA with an outdated OS...

jimlau said:
Hi guys,
Just got a negative reply from O2
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Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 4:34 PM
Subject: [Case#BF19151/1] Flame - TT0 - WM6
Dear Jim,
Thank you for contacting O2 Asia Technical Support.
You may wish to be advised that O2 has recently released the Windows Mobile 6 upgrade for Xda Atom Life users. Aside from that, O2 Asia currently has no plans of providing WM6 for current models including XDA Flame. You may wish to refer time and again in the near future to www.seeo2.com for further information on the devices with Windows Mobile 6.
Please inform me of any other assistance that you may require. I wish you success in your future endeavours.
Sincerely,
Judith Taan
O2 Technical Support (Email)
Asia Pacific Region
SACODE: jutaan#
For full listing of retail outlets and information on the latest products,
please visit http://www.seeo2.com
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This is some idiot who is responding from O2.
Today wm6 for zinc has been announced, check out msmobiles / seeo2.com for details.
I think flame is the flagship model of the company and they will surely release wm6 for it.

Reply from O2 Asia Pacific
Dear Flame Users,
I'm using XDA flame and whoever posted that reply tried to discourage Flame users.
Because i got an offical reply from O2 that they are currently testing Flame upgrade and will release soon
i got following message from O2
kindly note that O2 has a policy of testing new software and applications thoroughly to ensure that potential faults and issues are mitigated so that the customer experience and enjoyment of the new device is not affected. As a result, we are conducting rigorous tests on Windows Mobile 6 with the unique O2 applications and other software intended for the Xda Flame. Customers can expect to an announcement on the availability of Windows Mobile 6 upgrades for the Xda Flame in the near future.
Hope this information is useful. Thank You.
Warmest Regards,
Joanne Goh
O2 Technical Support (Email)
Asia Pacific Region
SACODE: jgoh#
For full listing of retail outlets and information on the latest products,
please visit http://www.seeo2.com

I'm using XDA Zinc ... and prior to wm 6.0 launched, I asked O2 about the upcoming wm 6.0 but they answered exactly like the one posted above that they were not providing wm 6.0 for zinc ... but guess what now they have it ...
I guess it is standard answer for someone that asked about availability of wm 6.0 ... i believe wm 6.0 will be available for flame also ... just wait patiently ... after all it is the current flagship of o2 ...

From the information above, some may conlude that O2 would finally release the WM6 rom, just as I do. Actually I think, maybe there're still something imperfect of the WM6 drivers for the indepent graphic card in FLAME, so it is still being tested time and again.
Nowadays, I noticed in a Chinese online shopping website, that they have the unique FLAME to sold with WM6(simplified Chinese edition)!!!
http://auction1.taobao.com/auction/0/item_detail-0db2-7bbf4068423ebb333ff1cd39fb0804c1.jhtml
I wonder where they got it, is that a signal? Oh, the seller also claim that they have a forum which is the official one of O2(www.iio2.com).
NOT ADs! cauz I'm not quite believe that.

solaluna said:
From the information above, some may conlude that O2 would finally release the WM6 rom, just as I do. Actually I think, maybe there're still something imperfect of the WM6 drivers for the indepent graphic card in FLAME, so it is still being tested time and again.
Nowadays, I noticed in a Chinese online shopping website, that they have the unique FLAME to sold with WM6(simplified Chinese edition)!!!
http://auction1.taobao.com/auction/0/item_detail-0db2-7bbf4068423ebb333ff1cd39fb0804c1.jhtml
I wonder where they got it, is that a signal? Oh, the seller also claim that they have a forum which is the official one of O2(www.iio2.com).
NOT ADs! cauz I'm not quite believe that.
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Actually, this is truth. WM6 Chinese version are published already

danny3358 said:
Actually, this is truth. WM6 Chinese version are published already
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I looked around that website-iio2, and found that it is not an official verison, as it is replanted from D900. Amazing! But I guess there is not a proper driver for the independent graphic card in this version.