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Tom Tom 3 - Wireless GPS Receiver and XDA's / MDA 3

This has been frustrating for me.
Been playing arround for hours to get TOM TOM 3 working with my Xda2's.
Can't seem to get the Bluetooth GPS Recevier to work properly.
I have paired the device.
I can see the GPS OUTPUT service however there is nothing incoming on both fronts.
Am i missing something or can any1 help.

Have you installed the 3.07 update from Tomtom?
Apparently this is required to get it to run properly on the XDAIIs
I wouldnt know yet as I'm still using an old Ipaq - waiting till I get paid before I buy a gps mount and use that with my new Xda

You can try so: launch navigator 3; go to GPS (clicking between Status and Log); on top you must see: TomTom Wireless GPS and Bluetooth Serial Port COM6, and the little square signed. So, the two devices would be connected.

A fix
Thanks for the last comment. It seems like it works with the COM6 port.

Tom Tom + GPS Reciver for TYTN

Hi,
Thinking about getting a TYTN and never had GPS navigation before so a bit of a noob. Whats the best kit to get, I would need the software and a GPS reciever so whats best to get.
I have found this - http://www.handtec.co.uk/product.php?xProd=142&xSec=8
Or is a bluetooth GPS receiver better? - http://www.handtec.co.uk/product.php?xProd=154&xSec=8
If its agains the rules to link to those websites I will delete them.

If you get the TomTom software then get the TomTom receiver as well because it will work right out of the box. Setting up non-TomTom satellite receivers in TomTom is a real pain in the backside.

I had absolutely no problems setting up TomTom with Holux GPSlim236.
Just pair the gpsreceiver with the phone and assing it a com port,
then select the correct port in TomTom. Works like a charm.
TomTom will even enable blutooth by itself.

Holux GPSlim 236
Also using the Holux without any problems. Small device with good battery lifetime and fast fix. Buy a small GPS so you don't have to leave it in your car. Thieves like them now everyone is taking his mobile out and radios tend to be build in by the car manufacturer.
Also take a look at i-Go software instead of TomTom. More maps available for East Europe and many nice features. Very fast on a TyTN! Can be installed from SD card.
Or look out for the SD version of TT5. It's always handy to be able to install a fresh version from the SD card after a PDA crash when there is no PC near. All other versions need Activesync to install, which you probably won't habe able to do on a holiday trip!
pbw

Which GPS works best?

Hi, Just recieved an XDA Orbit and i'm wondering which GPS software you think works best on the device. Now i know that most people think that TomTom is the best GPS software but i'm looking for something that works well on the orbit.
I need the GPS software to be able to support postcodes!
So the ones i can think of are:
TomTom 6
Co-poilot
Desinator
Any others? Whats do you think works best.
BTW: I'm in the UK if that makes any difference.

Tom Tom 5
I am using TTN5 and I find it excellent. I have used the TomTom range from the old Routeplanner days and the early versions were flawed, but TTN3 and 5 got their act together and maps were updated. TTN6 did not add any revolutionary functionality and TomTom didn't offer an upgrade price so I have stuck with TTN5 and a subscription to Pocket GPS World to get updated camera and POI downloads.

I use TomTom 6 and in my opinion, its the best out there. Co-Pilot is really good too, got that free with the phone - but just prefer the TTN6.

TT6 works well
Destinator PN also
Destinator 6.1.1 sucks on Orbit/MdaIIIc, losing GPS and freezes
other gps software not tested

I use Route66 on my Orbit. Drove 850 miles each way from Boston to Dayton, OH without a hitch. As a matter of fact, it saved me at one point when I was having car problems. Used it to find the nearest Hotel's in the area.

Hi,
I use both TOM TOM 6 and Memory Map, both of which work very well.
Regards

Last I checked iGuidance was incompatible.

I use TT6 works really well, my only problem is that maps are 95% uptodate, which is fine most of the time, but I find in London it doesn't know if a street is now one way, or its now a bus lane, or you cant turn left on Euston Road and have to go into congestion zone and then forget to pay and have to pay the £50 fine

Hello!
Reading such comments make me feel sad...oh lord!
Navigation programs are meant to support you on the road so you don't have to spread a roadmap across your steering wheel and being distracted from traffic, not to replace your eyes, ears and most of all your brain.
Could'nt resist had to say that.
...bye

I have TT 6.2 {7130} and IGO 2006. Works fine.

McM said:
TT6 works well
Destinator PN also
Destinator 6.1.1 sucks on Orbit/MdaIIIc, losing GPS and freezes
other gps software not tested
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I use Destinator 6.1 with Iberia map (when I'm in the mainland, no Madeira maps yet ) and it works OK.
It captures GPS signal almost instantly and it's quite accurate regarding positioning.
Regards,

Have used TTN5 & TTN6 I prefer TTN5 as it is simple and quick to use. It would be perfect if the maps were spot on but close enough to keep me happy.
May have to use TTN6 when new London congestion charge comes in but its the one I would recommend.

Tomtom 6 is purposedly disable for the Tytn ??

Having just bought a Tytn I found that my tomtom 6 didn't work. I seemed to have two issues. 1) It hung up frequently and 2) It kept losing my external bluetooth GPS receiver.
I thought I'd go to Tomtom's page to see if there was a fix given that HTC mention this saying that Tomtom have updated version 6 for the device.
http://www.europe.htc.com/en/htctytn/support/faq.html?id=539&cat=applications
To my horror I I found this page which suggests that the device is not supported, never has been and never will be. The reason according to Tomtom is due to an agreement with HTC,
http://www.europe.htc.com/en/htctytn/support/faq.html?id=539&cat=applications
I am trying to catch up on this device so am swamped by data at the moment but this is a real blow to me as one of the main priorities is to run Tomtom 6. When I bought the device I assumed that it was just a pocket pc with a phone in it. Seemingly I am wrong as there appears to be differences with the hardware or Tomtom checks the device it's running on and presumably refuses to work properly.
Can anyone enlighten me as to how ( if at all to get around this issue). Currently my device still has mobile 5 but I am ploughing through the plethora of information on this site trying to figure out exactly what I should and shouldn't do. I've a lot of catching up to do..
Any advice / suggestions would be most welcome, it seems too strange a concept to be locked out of running a pc app just because of the hardware it's running on.
EDIT: Apologies moderator this probably shouldn't be posted in the wm6 thread even though I am intending to move over and would like to use tomtom on that. Please move it if necessary.

louiscar said:
Having just bought a Tytn I found that my tomtom 6 didn't work. I seemed to have two issues. 1) It hung up frequently and 2) It kept losing my external bluetooth GPS receiver.
I thought I'd go to Tomtom's page to see if there was a fix given that HTC mention this saying that Tomtom have updated version 6 for the device.
http://www.europe.htc.com/en/htctytn/support/faq.html?id=539&cat=applications
To my horror I I found this page which suggests that the device is not supported, never has been and never will be. The reason according to Tomtom is due to an agreement with HTC,
http://www.europe.htc.com/en/htctytn/support/faq.html?id=539&cat=applications
I am trying to catch up on this device so am swamped by data at the moment but this is a real blow to me as one of the main priorities is to run Tomtom 6. When I bought the device I assumed that it was just a pocket pc with a phone in it. Seemingly I am wrong as there appears to be differences with the hardware or Tomtom checks the device it's running on and presumably refuses to work properly.
Can anyone enlighten me as to how ( if at all to get around this issue). Currently my device still has mobile 5 but I am ploughing through the plethora of information on this site trying to figure out exactly what I should and shouldn't do. I've a lot of catching up to do..
Any advice / suggestions would be most welcome, it seems too strange a concept to be locked out of running a pc app just because of the hardware it's running on.
EDIT: Apologies moderator this probably shouldn't be posted in the wm6 thread even though I am intending to move over and would like to use tomtom on that. Please move it if necessary.
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Try a search on the Hermes forum. I found lots of stuff.
I found THIS ONE . But there were MANY others. Some users reported success with some ROMs.

Don't fret, it works fine on mine... Are you running a WM6 image - you may wish to upgrade to wm6 if you're not. (or downgrade to TT5.....)
Treat the issue as 2 separate problems, bluetooth related loss of GPS unit, and the stability of the TT6 software.
There are any number of other applications that will let you connect and read signals from the GPS unit, try these to see if you have a faulty gps unit or if its TT playing up.
Once you're happy with this look at the TT issue.....

I have 2 Varios II and I can admit that I had some issues with TT6 with WM5. TT liked to freeze when I was typing in the address or browsing through menus. When I changed to WM5 AKU3.2 it was better, but still not perfect. Eventually, it was WM6 that helped me. Now TT6 is running without any issues (of course it can freeze from time to time when I have too many programmes running in the background). Just try any of new WM6 and everything should be fine.

I had TT5.21 which people said run fine which didnt on wm6 but TT6.1 works fine

Long time since i've been on here but while i was browsing about, i saw this problem. All i can suggest is using the inbuilt GPS and see how that works? I have TT6 as well and i have used it perfectly well on an XDA Mini, XDA Orbit, SPV M700, HTC Touch, HTC TyTn II... seems a bit odd that you're having these problems. Have you since cured the fault or is it still being a bit of a ****bag?!
While i'm here... anyone got the latest maps at all for TT6? Shout me on [email protected] if you have any info on TT6 or need any PDA / Pocket PC help.
Griz

ibanyard said:
Don't fret, it works fine on mine... Are you running a WM6 image - you may wish to upgrade to wm6 if you're not. (or downgrade to TT5.....)
Treat the issue as 2 separate problems, bluetooth related loss of GPS unit, and the stability of the TT6 software.
There are any number of other applications that will let you connect and read signals from the GPS unit, try these to see if you have a faulty gps unit or if its TT playing up.
Once you're happy with this look at the TT issue.....
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Yeah, I had established that the gps was working fine, I've been happily using it on my ipaq 2210 for ages. Then with the Hermes testing with gpsgate and some other stuff showed no problems.
The problem I had was that my TT6 was a 2GB SD card version and I didn't have micro SD big enough to test it. I had about 1hour to play with my friend's one and that's when I discovered the two problems.
He lent me the card to play with this evening and I've made a little progress now. I've sorted the flakey GPS operation, primarily by changing the com port, deleting the pairing and pairing again. So far that's not dropped out since.
Tomtom runs but freezes, this appears to be a confirmed problem which I hope that WM6 will solve as (mean-machine) suggests.
I feel a lot happier that the damn thing runs at least. The freezing appears to be related to cpu usage as I find that that zooming right out on a map is a good way to cause this to happen. The menu screens can be a problem too and the rest appear intermittent. As others have stated in other threads, hitting the red button and then switching back to TT will free it up.
I guess the next thing is to study the Wiki and try an make sense of the order things need to be done to put WM6 in, which Rom if any, which version of WM6. ... Information overload, so I think I need to take it slow and ingest the data .
Thanks for all the replys guys, it amazes me how much support HTC has and how many of you are passionate about them. Up till a few months ago I had never heard of HTC, now I doubt I'd consider anything else.

TomTom6
louiscar said:
Having just bought a Tytn I found that my tomtom 6 didn't work. I seemed to have two issues. 1) It hung up frequently and 2) It kept losing my external bluetooth GPS receiver.
I thought I'd go to Tomtom's page to see if there was a fix given that HTC mention this saying that Tomtom have updated version 6 for the device.
http://www.europe.htc.com/en/htctytn/support/faq.html?id=539&cat=applications
To my horror I I found this page which suggests that the device is not supported, never has been and never will be. The reason according to Tomtom is due to an agreement with HTC,
http://www.europe.htc.com/en/htctytn/support/faq.html?id=539&cat=applications
I am trying to catch up on this device so am swamped by data at the moment but this is a real blow to me as one of the main priorities is to run Tomtom 6. When I bought the device I assumed that it was just a pocket pc with a phone in it. Seemingly I am wrong as there appears to be differences with the hardware or Tomtom checks the device it's running on and presumably refuses to work properly.
Can anyone enlighten me as to how ( if at all to get around this issue). Currently my device still has mobile 5 but I am ploughing through the plethora of information on this site trying to figure out exactly what I should and shouldn't do. I've a lot of catching up to do..
Any advice / suggestions would be most welcome, it seems too strange a concept to be locked out of running a pc app just because of the hardware it's running on.
EDIT: Apologies moderator this probably shouldn't be posted in the wm6 thread even though I am intending to move over and would like to use tomtom on that. Please move it if necessary.
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I have been using TomTom 6 on my Imate Jasjam (TyTn) both with WM5 and many versions of WM6. It works flawlessly never missing a beat. What com port are you using? Have you turned off secure connection?

@louiscar: a good place to start with upgrading info (to avoid the overload) is THIS SITE . Great guides that make it simple.

rbin said:
I have been using TomTom 6 on my Imate Jasjam (TyTn) both with WM5 and many versions of WM6. It works flawlessly never missing a beat. What com port are you using? Have you turned off secure connection?
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Hi rbin,
I've currently got the GPS panel set to 'program port = com2', 'hardware port = com0' and my bluetooth gps is set to 'outgoing = com0'
Currently this works well so the GPS issue has been resolved.
Tomtom on the other hand freezes pretty much as described here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=299892&highlight=tomtom+freezes
and in a number of other threads.

todd_jg said:
@louiscar: a good place to start with upgrading info (to avoid the overload) is THIS SITE . Great guides that make it simple.
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Great link, thanks Todd. Reading glasses are on already.

TT6 w/Pharos and Holux recievers work great
I've an AT&T Tytn upgraded to WM6 and have no troubles with my Holux or Pharos receivers and TT6.
Everything works great EXCEPT issues with data connections such as TT Buddies or traffic. This isn't unique to the PDA version of the software though, as I also have a standalone TomTom GO 910 paired with the phone and it works almost okay as a bluetooth speaker phone, but constantly has trouble getting a good data connection.
My $0.02

louiscar said:
Having just bought a Tytn I found that my tomtom 6 didn't work. I seemed to have two issues. 1) It hung up frequently and 2) It kept losing my external bluetooth GPS receiver.
I thought I'd go to Tomtom's page to see if there was a fix given that HTC mention this saying that Tomtom have updated version 6 for the device.
http://www.europe.htc.com/en/htctytn/support/faq.html?id=539&cat=applications
To my horror I I found this page which suggests that the device is not supported, never has been and never will be. The reason according to Tomtom is due to an agreement with HTC,
http://www.europe.htc.com/en/htctytn/support/faq.html?id=539&cat=applications
I am trying to catch up on this device so am swamped by data at the moment but this is a real blow to me as one of the main priorities is to run Tomtom 6. When I bought the device I assumed that it was just a pocket pc with a phone in it. Seemingly I am wrong as there appears to be differences with the hardware or Tomtom checks the device it's running on and presumably refuses to work properly.
Can anyone enlighten me as to how ( if at all to get around this issue). Currently my device still has mobile 5 but I am ploughing through the plethora of information on this site trying to figure out exactly what I should and shouldn't do. I've a lot of catching up to do..
Any advice / suggestions would be most welcome, it seems too strange a concept to be locked out of running a pc app just because of the hardware it's running on.
EDIT: Apologies moderator this probably shouldn't be posted in the wm6 thread even though I am intending to move over and would like to use tomtom on that. Please move it if necessary.
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I have used TT6 on my MDA VArio II (TyTn) for almost a year...no problem. Now I have the TyTn II

Same here.. been using Tom tom 6 on my Tytn since the day i installed wm6, no problems here, works like a charm!

HEAT???
I have been using TT6 on my Imate JASJAM running the DOPOD WM6 ROM without much trouble (no hanging etc). The only problem I am experiencing is huge power drain and the unit being physically hot when running TT. Maybe this power drain and potential overheating can cause some units to hang and playup, or potentially any unit given the right environment!
Anyone else finding their units getting a bit hot?

I've been using TT6 on my Tytn (MDA Vario II) almost one year now. No problems. Started using TT6 while running WM5, upgraded to WM6 (schaps rom), reinstalled TT6 and it just continued as before. No problems, no hangups no freezing. I've been using all kinds of different charts with TT6, so I don't think the problem is with TT.

louiscar said:
Hi rbin,
I've currently got the GPS panel set to 'program port = com2', 'hardware port = com0' and my bluetooth gps is set to 'outgoing = com0'
Currently this works well so the GPS issue has been resolved.
Tomtom on the other hand freezes pretty much as described here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=299892&highlight=tomtom+freezes
and in a number of other threads.
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Going to try your settings too, cause on all WM6 roms I tried I keep losing my GPS BT connection. I'm not damn sure it got nothing to do with TT6. But when I delete my gps and reconnect it while TT6 is up and running, TT will find the gps straight away. So imho it's the BT connection that fails and not TT.
It's really annoying though.
Cheers, M

I have been running TomTom Navigator 6 on my JASJAM for some time. The hanging problem described is probably caused by having all the Points Of Interest (POI) active.
Go into the TomTom settings menu and de-activate ALL the POIs. Try it, then only turn on the ones you actually require.

oltp said:
Going to try your settings too, cause on all WM6 roms I tried I keep losing my GPS BT connection. I'm not damn sure it got nothing to do with TT6. But when I delete my gps and reconnect it while TT6 is up and running, TT will find the gps straight away. So imho it's the BT connection that fails and not TT.
It's really annoying though.
Cheers, M
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Doesn't work either. Seems that after a soft-reset the BT connection with my GPS is f*d. Very strange because the BT headset doesn't suffer any of this. Maybe time to buy a new GPS, but with WM5 I never experienced this behaviour.

I found that with tt6 you need to have the WM6 internal gps settings set to "None" for both program and hardware port. Then make sure the box is checked in the last tab so it autodetects the com ports. Once all this is set and you goto add a bluetooth gps device in tt6 it gives you the option to use com port 0. select this port and it should detect your gps unit with no probs. Been running tt6 on my 8525 with tnt's latest cooked rom and things couldn't be running smoother.
Edit: On another note. I used to use Telenav with my 8525 with the original at&t rom. I had the worst luck with that application. I would constantly lose my gps connect and I almost always had to do a soft-reset to get it working again. It is quite possible that Telenav was not the issue and that the particular rom I was using had bluetooth connection issues that were resolved when I switched to a cooked rom such as the tnt one. So for those using tt6 with BT connection problems you may want to try a different rom and see how your luck goes.

6.1 and tom tom, bluetooth working now?

Can any body tell me the best 6.1 cab to use tom tom on have trouble with bluetooth at the moment wont stay paired up.
Will consider using a 6.0 cab if this is the only way.
is there a fix
thank you

Had no problems with either Farias R-32 versions, and Schaps was fine too.
i found TomTom pretty good with pairing and finding bluetooth signals.

TNT 19999
Hy...
no problem with this rom.... i hope this notice can help you.....
If you need some other information cantact me!!!
Bye!!

there must be another problem, mabe with your bt-gps. Been flashing about 7 different 6.0 and 6.1 roms's the last few weeks and none of them heve instable bluetooth gps pairing and using.
i'm using a bt-gps and bt-stereo headset intensive together. listening to mp3, on the same time tomtom is telling directions, while on the background pushmail is bringing me new mail that i can read at the same time, being interrupted for incoming sms.
on top of that all an incoming phone call on my bt-headset will work, just as using a voice command to dial a number myself. and the mp3 player automaticaly pauses and restarts at the end of the phonecall.
tomtom keeps working.
just when ending a phonecall sometime the mp3 sound goes to the pda speaker instead of the headset.

Pays 6.1 ROM works with tt6 and bt.

My hermes kept droping out with TomTomon WM5 all the time, but since I switched to WM6 i never had a single drop.
For me WM5 > WM6 stopped all TomTom problems I had

l3it3r said:
Pays 6.1 ROM works with tt6 and bt.
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Better late the never: Correct

photoscubaman said:
Can any body tell me the best 6.1 cab to use tom tom on have trouble with bluetooth at the moment wont stay paired up.
Will consider using a 6.0 cab if this is the only way.
is there a fix
thank you
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hi Photoscuba, i have the exact same problems
First it wont pair properly (says that the key is incorrect).
Its there in the Bluetooth device list, so i open a com port for it then run my gps software, goto detect GPS but then i keep getting GPS reciver wants to pair with you message, as soon as i can answer yes or no, another screen will pop up saying the same
i have asked in several other threads if anyone else is having the same issues, but everyone elses seem fine.
i did read some where about all wm6.1 rom having problems with pairing when using the pass code 0000 (something along the lines of it sending a NULL or a single 0), but i cant find now. ill keep looking for it maybe someone has over come this, on a thread on XDA.
i use a HOLUX GPSlim240 receiver and it works flawlessly with wm6's
im using K's 1.3 at the mo

All these ROMS worked for me
I like to test new ROM and play around a lot.
I have tested Tom Tom 6 and my Bluetooth GPS on the following WM 6.1 ROM all worked.
Below are the ROM in the order i used them.
FARIA-R-32-CLEAN
TNT.19199_Professional_Hermes
CRCs_PHKv12r10
Binky11'sv3_3 - Great Clean ROM and i loved S2U2
PDACorner.V10 - New ROM i am testing right now

What map software and GPS units are everyone using?
maybe theres a incompatibilty problem with certain makes of GPS and wm6.1
im using destinator 7 and igo6 with a holux 240 GPSlim

crusti said:
What map software and GPS units are everyone using?
maybe theres a incompatibilty problem with certain makes of GPS and wm6.1
im using destinator 7 and igo6 with a holux 240 GPSlim
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Considering they are talking about Tomtom, I assume thats the software they are using....

yea, lol, shoulda seen that coming
but the problem seems to be the gps unit connecting or staying paired to the phone, so if there a list of bluetooth gps units that are working fine with wm6.1 then maybe see why some units wont connect
It all works fine on all the WM6's, so the change is in how wm6.1 handles it as far as i can work out
if theres a list of workin and non working GPS's then maybe i could see what the problem is