Im still in the process of choosing between the dash and the curve 8320 for tmobile...and so far im leaning more towards the dash but i see so many complaints about how windows mobile crashes like 5 times a day and its so slow that its worth getting another phone over
so ive decided to take a poll from the users to help me decide
Also ive seen lots of previous owners of the dash complaining about how the Screen broke VERY easily...are they just haters or is this true...? and how much do spare screens cost?
My opinion:
My Windows never crash - NEVER. I make everyting to crash it - Install unofficial ROMS every week, install many many programs, games, etc, edit registry to find what key for what is, end so on .
Good display
Good Radio
Good Wi-Fi
When you hit the phone to wall or to floor its normal to crash .
First problem is the battery - 2 days battery life with normal usage of wi-fi(20-30 min per day), gaming (15-20 min per day) and talking (20-30 min per day). If you use wi-fi more often, the battery will be uncharged very soon.
My phone is new but some guys here tells that the battery life become dramaticaly short after 8-9 mounths of usage - something like 6-7hours. But when this happen you just buy another battery fo 15 bugs - end of story.
Second problem is audio jack. If you don't have headset for mini USB jack, you must buy adapter for 3.5mm audio jack - someting like 10-15 bugs
Mine never "crashed" either.
The only thing that happened to me was installing some software locked it up and I had to hard reset.
If you like to tinker, and are a geek, and like lots of software, get the Dash.
If you are a pencil pusher, get the Curve.
Whatever you do, DON'T get the Shadow. You have never seen bad battery life
until you get that phone.
I have heard people talk bad about the dash. I have had my dash for about a year and a half. I just replaced the battery because it had gotten to the point where it was useless, but after reading more about battery life of the battery this was as expected. I got a desk charger for 12 and a second battery and now I have two batteries for use and I can do pretty much anything I want. As far as crashing my dash has only had to be hard reset once for a real problem and other than that it was by choice. The one time it was hard reset it was my fault as well. It hung in a reboot loop after installing some flaky software. If you want a phone that just works get the dash and get an extra battery.
galley
i had the curve 8320 and honestly its a smooth running os but it is soooo boring plus sude for the curve it is way lighter han dash but dash is so customizable any winmo phone nut my preference is dash have had mine for ove a year and a half and loving it
Mine used to lock up once in a while when I was on WM5, but it's never crashed (other than some battery related shutdowns before I replaced it) since I upgraded to WM6 and then WM6.1. With 6.1 I haven't had to reboot it once yet.
galley3175 said:
I have heard people talk bad about the dash. I have had my dash for about a year and a half. I just replaced the battery because it had gotten to the point where it was useless, but after reading more about battery life of the battery this was as expected. I got a desk charger for 12 and a second battery and now I have two batteries for use and I can do pretty much anything I want. As far as crashing my dash has only had to be hard reset once for a real problem and other than that it was by choice. The one time it was hard reset it was my fault as well. It hung in a reboot loop after installing some flaky software. If you want a phone that just works get the dash and get an extra battery.
galley
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What is real new battery price?
Where can i read about battery? . Can I do something to use one battery longer, how to make battery life longer?
littleclown said:
What is real new battery price?
Where can i read about battery? . Can I do something to use one battery longer, how to make battery life longer?
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Try puting your battery in the freezer..... of course it wouldn't do you any good in there now would it?
Battery info
This is by far the best article on battery life I have found...that doesn't make it great just a good article:
http://batteryuniversity.com/parttwo-34.htm
As far as Batteries how much:
http://www.cellphoneshop.net
I got two batteries and a desk charger sent to me by fed ex in 24 hours or so for 43 dollars. Desk Charger was 6 dollars shipping was the big item at 17.00, but I didn't have to use fed ex. The two batteries are 12.99. I did this last week and the stuff was sent to me via fed ex. I placed the order it shipped first thing the next morning and i had it about mid day on the third day. It came from Hong Kong.
Galley
Hello,
so I got the bloated battery issue myself, and had to order another battery. I have seen many threads pop up in the last month concerning this issue, on here, androidcentral, and even the sprint forums!
There doesn't seem to be a unified thread, so I would like to try to get one going. Sprint/Samsung probably doesn't know how widespread this issue is becoming. I think its a more serious problem than we think, and isn't relagated to a few random people. Myself and my friend, who both got our phones around the same time, who both run the same build of ICS started exhibiting the following issues:
1. Insane and unpredictable battery life drops. I'm talking 88% while browsing the web, and then instant reboot and phone is down to 10%.
2. Screen flickers as if auto brightness can't make up its mind, instant reboot.
3. LOS, then reboot.
4. Any intensive apps: camera, gps, sometimes even just streaming music, causes the phone to lock up, pressing home does nothing, may even require reboot.
5. Removing battery, and then letting phone sit for 1-2 minutes, then putting it back in an powering up brings battery level back up to stable temporarily.
6. Battery Bloat, and inevitable: permadeath. Can't hold a charge.
This seems to me to be a consistent occurence along with recent builds of ICS.
I would like to get to the bottom of this. I don't plan on keeping this phone much longer (I ordered a Nexus 4, still in order limbo tho), but it could be of help to the community if we know the how's and why's.
Questions:
- Are you experience these symptoms?
- If so, when did they start, give a specific build number?
- Have you experienced battery bloat? (battery seems to be slightly expanding outward, not completely flat)
- Do you keep your phone on the charger overnight? (This may or may not be related, but maybe a recent ICS change disables something that stops the battery from overcharging)
Interesting! My wife had this exact issue on her E4GT unrooted FI27. Eventually, the phone would no longer boot. She took it back to Sprint yesterday. The battery was bad, they tried another battery and the phone still wouldn't boot. She's receiving a new phone today.
She told me when she was at the Sprint store, there was a guy there with an Evo with exactly the same problem. I told her it was just an amazing coincidence and not an Android issue... obviously I was wrong!
I am on FI27 stock rooted with a newer battery than my wife's, the only thing I have noticed is that my charge sometimes drops CONSIDERABLY after I reboot the phone... now this has me worried! Her battery was bloated. We both charge overnight.
Obviously, this is an issue that you can't ignore, because it can fry your phone (as it did my wife's).
Yes!! The insane battery dropped started happening like a month ago. That's all that was happening though. Just random battery drops. I thought it was the ROM at the time. The phone would freeze up, reboot and the battery would be 30%+ lower.
About a week ago I started experiencing the craziness. Phone rebooting, flickering screen, pretty much everything you've stated. And yes I've been using the latest modems. My battery can also spin like a top. For a very long time I might add. Some other dude with a regular Qwerty phone has a battery that can spin, but it only spins for like 3 seconds. His phone is pretty old.
My phone is about a year old and the battery spins for ever. I guess this is a good test to see how bloated your battery is, since I can't really look at it and tell.
I do charge over night since my phone would die over night. I don't think my phone will fry right now since my phone is on the charger and the battery temperature is at 66 Fahrenheit (18 Celsius). Ordered a new battery hoping for the best. And I will be using ROMs that are based on the FF18 with the new battery.
first power button broke, now battery is taking a **** upon itself, exact same issues
Check this out... as I said, after my wife had been having this issue for a couple weeks on her stock E4GT, on Thursday her phone would never boot past the boot screen. She took it into Sprint on Friday and they determined the battery was bad. They tried a new battery, still wouldn't get past the boot screen. They ordered her a new phone 'overnight' which is supposed to arrive Monday. She is going into withdrawal, so for the hell of it I plugged her phone in, booted to stock recovery and did a factory reset... reboot and the phone (apart from the bad battery) works perfectly. My wife asks why they wouldn't have done that at the Sprint store? What a bunch of idiots!
ICS prob
arionfrost said:
Hello,
so I got the bloated battery issue myself, and had to order another battery. I have seen many threads pop up in the last month concerning this issue, on here, androidcentral, and even the sprint forums!
There doesn't seem to be a unified thread, so I would like to try to get one going. Sprint/Samsung probably doesn't know how widespread this issue is becoming. I think its a more serious problem than we think, and isn't relagated to a few random people. Myself and my friend, who both got our phones around the same time, who both run the same build of ICS started exhibiting the following issues:
1. Insane and unpredictable battery life drops. I'm talking 88% while browsing the web, and then instant reboot and phone is down to 10%.
2. Screen flickers as if auto brightness can't make up its mind, instant reboot.
3. LOS, then reboot.
4. Any intensive apps: camera, gps, sometimes even just streaming music, causes the phone to lock up, pressing home does nothing, may even require reboot.
5. Removing battery, and then letting phone sit for 1-2 minutes, then putting it back in an powering up brings battery level back up to stable temporarily.
6. Battery Bloat, and inevitable: permadeath. Can't hold a charge.
This seems to me to be a consistent occurence along with recent builds of ICS.
I would like to get to the bottom of this. I don't plan on keeping this phone much longer (I ordered a Nexus 4, still in order limbo tho), but it could be of help to the community if we know the how's and why's.
Questions:
- Are you experience these symptoms?
- If so, when did they start, give a specific build number?
- Have you experienced battery bloat? (battery seems to be slightly expanding outward, not completely flat)
- Do you keep your phone on the charger overnight? (This may or may not be related, but maybe a recent ICS change disables something that stops the battery from overcharging)
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I have the above listed problems with my SOny Xperia Arc S after I updated it to ICS.. It is kinda frustrating..coz it turns on and off by itself, or sometimes it just froze that will makes me manually take out the battery..But when I haven't updated it to ICS there are no problems like this...
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I have the above listed problems with my SOny Xperia Arc S after I updated it to ICS.. It is kinda frustrating..coz it turns on and off by itself, or sometimes it just froze that will makes me manually take out the battery..But when I haven't updated it to ICS there are no problems like this...
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Do look in what forum you are replying to before replying. This is the E4GT forum. NOT Sony!
This is a specific problem related to E4GT. I think its the characteristics of this problem that make it unique, the instantly dead battery, the battery bloating, and something to do with recent ICS updates. I am hypothesizing that it has to do with battery overcharging that somehow got introduced to recent builds of ICS that is causing this.
I just got my new battery in yesterday, and sure enough, it fixed all of these problems. It's an Anker battery, and, although I am no expert on batteries, its a really nice third party battery, and feels weightier than the stock Samsung battery. Now I'm worried that ICS will destroy this battery as well, so I am being very conservative when it comes to charging.
I was having the same issue with my last E4GT running FI27 STOCK ROOTED.
1) LOS to reboot then low battery from full
2) using apps like spotify, maps and voice search on 3g would also cause it to reboot to low battery
3) screen flickers (like cm10 flicker) and then reboots
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I don't think the issue is related to ics but rather the age of the phone, but i could be wrong.
Has anyone had their battery die after upgrading to ICS when their phone was less than 8 months old?
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Beremat said:
I don't think the issue is related to ics but rather the age of the phone, but i could be wrong.
Has anyone had their battery die after upgrading to ICS when their phone was less than 8 months old?
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Pesonally, I agree... my belief is that this is a battery age issue. Now, I won't say that the battery should age so quickly or that it should start bloating, but no one has had this issue with a newish battery have they (say, newer than 6 months)?
rsngfrce said:
Pesonally, I agree... my belief is that this is a battery age issue. Now, I won't say that the battery should age so quickly or that it should start bloating, but no one has had this issue with a newish battery have they (say, newer than 6 months)?
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I dunno man. I have had an Epic 4G, an HTC Evo, and evne HTC Hero that I kept for quite a while and their batteries never bloated and exhibited these kind of software based issues. Sure batteries degrade over time, but it's almost like the software was glitching out when it was killing my battery and causing strange reboots and lock ups, not to mention instant drain.
new battery bloating within 2 weeks
rsngfrce said:
Pesonally, I agree... my belief is that this is a battery age issue. Now, I won't say that the battery should age so quickly or that it should start bloating, but no one has had this issue with a newish battery have they (say, newer than 6 months)?
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Hi there, first post here, I was just browsing the web for help with this issue and found this thread. My galaxy s2 eg4 also had the bloated battery after ics update, it was shutting off randomly, flickering, etc. I replaced the battery first part of december 2012, and within 2 weeks it had started doing the same thing again, but not as often. Sure enough, brand new, previously flat battery was slightly bloated. It has gradually gotten worse, so I just purchased 2 new anker batteries to see if they fare better. When I changed the battery and took out my one month old battery, it was quite bloated and spun for quite a while.
Hoping it does better with the anker batteries, but only time will tell.
Batteries bloating has nothing to do with ICS or the software. Its a heat issue and weak cell walls inside the OEM batteries. The cell walls barely meet requirements to make the 1800mah cells fit in a 1500mah size housing and they don't hold up well to high temps. as the battery reaches 120°F+ the solid state chemicals used in the cells begin to expand, a normal battery's cell walls can withstand the slight increase in pressure but the thinner walls in these batteries begin to crack and/or separate from the housing and then the chemicals can mix. Once the chemicals begin to mix the reaction causes the air inside the battery to expand and swells the housing out as it has nowhere to escape.
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I have the same problem l. Even with a 3800mah battery. It will start.acting up and if it gets better it will all of sidden go up to 70% or more, and i know it takes a couple of hours to get it to 70% from being dead at 15% or less.
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Hi there, first post here, I was just browsing the web for help with this issue and found this thread. My galaxy s2 eg4 also had the bloated battery after ics update, it was shutting off randomly, flickering, etc. I replaced the battery first part of december 2012, and within 2 weeks it had started doing the same thing again, but not as often. Sure enough, brand new, previously flat battery was slightly bloated. It has gradually gotten worse, so I just purchased 2 new anker batteries to see if they fare better. When I changed the battery and took out my one month old battery, it was quite bloated and spun for quite a while.
Hoping it does better with the anker batteries, but only time will tell.
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I have been using the anker battery for over two weeks and no issues, longer battery life, etc. So far, so good. :fingers-crossed:
Most definitely a battery issue, especially when your phone is a year old or close to it, I don't know what was up with ics but that sure put hurting on the Epic Touch.
I have two Epic's and they are both 14 months old and in Dec they both got new batteries, an Anker and a original Samsung and they are both running like new again. Ones on GB and the other is on JB roms.
They both experienced the bloted battery syndrome and they also experienced ics, for a short period before going back to GB and now JB. Ics was a catalyst for the batteries to fail the way they did, not to mention that charging and discharging a battery for a year or so is going to also take a battery to its limits, especially when you plug it in overnight. At present we have no issues with our Epic's and we are just going to wait it out for the GS4 to get here before we upgrade.
EViL is on the right track even thought he likes to break stuff.
Pp.
sent from a jellybean filled epic touch.
Hi, I bought my wife a used 2014 edition some months ago and it seemed to work great but the battery didn't last very long. Recently I started playing a few games on it and realized that the problem was worse than I thought. It would say it was at say 60% but after 5 minutes playing a game it would go into power saving mode and be at around 14%. So I bought a new battery and it does the exact same thing! When I go into the battery setting it doesn't show anything using much power but something drains the battery as soon as you use it for almost anything.
Has anyone seen this before. If it doesn't tell me what app is draining the battery, how can I fix this? thanks
you are preaching to the choir. this is a big problem with these. the batteries are honestly easy enough to change but it is pretty much impossible to find an actual samsung replacement. they are all cheap knock offs that cant handle the voltages of the tablet which causes its own set of problems. I got one and it does help get more out of it but when you do anything too intense especially with less than 60% the thing will just shut off. total bummer. there are a lot of batteries out there just be careful of what you buy. and if you find a good replacement let us know!
I found a thread that seems to attribute this to faulty battery connection to the motherboard and someone who can weld can fix the problem. Has anyone else had success with this? thanks
nate39 said:
Hi, I bought my wife a used 2014 edition some months ago and it seemed to work great but the battery didn't last very long. Recently I started playing a few games on it and realized that the problem was worse than I thought. It would say it was at say 60% but after 5 minutes playing a game it would go into power saving mode and be at around 14%. So I bought a new battery and it does the exact same thing! When I go into the battery setting it doesn't show anything using much power but something drains the battery as soon as you use it for almost anything.
Has anyone seen this before. If it doesn't tell me what app is draining the battery, how can I fix this? thanks
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As graffix31 said, this is a common issue. If you contact Samsung, they should be able to tell you where you can get a direct factory replacement battery (if they are even available still). Other than that, all you can really get is aftermarket ones that, like graffix31 said, can't handle heavy loads. I can vouch for that myself. Replacing my battery was definately an improvement over the old battery. I still have some issues though, but I've found ways to avoid them. If you are rooted, with any cpu management app, you can shut down 1 of the cores and reduce the maximum output of the others. This prevents mine from overloading the battery. It isn't ideal, but it works.
Hi.
I've been using Mi 6 for 14 months and I recently noticed a huge drop in battery life after updating from MIUI 10 Beta to Stable. Few days ago I changed my ROM to OmniROM because I thought my battery would last long with less Android System battery usage, but in the end it was still the same. My battery used to last a whole day with normal use and occasional game playing, today for example I lost 50% in three hours. On AccuBattery I supposedly have 2400mAh instead of 3350, although the number kept changing for a few days so I'm not really surprised, I don't believe the app is really that accurate.
My question here is if anyone has/had the same problem and what could I try to fix this, except buying a new battery.
Thanks in advance.
nikitagaluh said:
Hi.
I've been using Mi 6 for 14 months and I recently noticed a huge drop in battery life after updating from MIUI 10 Beta to Stable. Few days ago I changed my ROM to OmniROM because I thought my battery would last long with less Android System battery usage, but in the end it was still the same. My battery used to last a whole day with normal use and occasional game playing, today for example I lost 50% in three hours. On AccuBattery I supposedly have 2400mAh instead of 3350, although the number kept changing for a few days so I'm not really surprised, I don't believe the app is really that accurate.
My question here is if anyone has/had the same problem and what could I try to fix this, except buying a new battery.
Thanks in advance.
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I would recommend to completely drain the battery to the point of not being able to turn on even for a few moments, then charge up to 100% for 1-2 times, i had done this to my S5 which had a very crappy battery (it was in use for like 3-4 years with the same battery) and after that it worked like a charm, but, this is a big but, i dont know if this is going to work in this situation.
AWESOME1092387456 said:
I would recommend to completely drain the battery to the point of not being able to turn on even for a few moments, then charge up to 100% for 1-2 times, i had done this to my S5 which had a very crappy battery (it was in use for like 3-4 years with the same battery) and after that it worked like a charm, but, this is a big but, i dont know if this is going to work in this situation.
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I'll give it a try, thank you!
Batteries shouldn't be drained to zero.. Doesn't do them well...
But actually I'm having similar problems lately. It drains 10% or more over night in airplane mode.. In on RR OS..
callmejones said:
Batteries shouldn't be drained to zero.. Doesn't do them well...
But actually I'm having similar problems lately. It drains 10% or more over night in airplane mode.. In on RR OS..
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I switched to Lineage OS and the battery does last longer now, I even removed the AccuBattery app. Just in case I ordered another battery and I might even replace it if the battery use turns out to be the same or even worse than before.
nikitagaluh said:
Hi.
I've been using Mi 6 for 14 months and I recently noticed a huge drop in battery life after updating from MIUI 10 Beta to Stable. Few days ago I changed my ROM to OmniROM because I thought my battery would last long with less Android System battery usage, but in the end it was still the same. My battery used to last a whole day with normal use and occasional game playing, today for example I lost 50% in three hours. On AccuBattery I supposedly have 2400mAh instead of 3350, although the number kept changing for a few days so I'm not really surprised, I don't believe the app is really that accurate.
My question here is if anyone has/had the same problem and what could I try to fix this, except buying a new battery.
Thanks in advance.
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download.mokeedev.com/?device=sagit
Use mokee rom it is very stable and the battery draining is so slow
I have try many rom and this is the best in term of battery drain