Hiyas all,
Just wondering if anyone of you has tried some high-end stereo headsets (non-bluetooth) from audiophile-grade headphone manufacturers such as Etymotic, Shure or Sennheiser, to replace your ordinary-crappy-plasticky headsets given by Dopod, O2, HTC or whatever.
Would be nice as alternetives to A2DP Bluetooth headsets for those looking for compatibility, wants their PDA battery last longer, and feel reluctant to add one more thing to charge daily (the bluetoooth headset).
There are 2 types i found as far as I researched:
1. Shure i2c, i3c, i4c (starting US$79)
http://www.shure.com/PersonalAudio/Products/Headsets/ISeries/us_pa_i4c_headset_content
2. Sennheiser MM50 (US$60)
http://www.sennheiserusa.com/newsite/productdetail.asp?transid=500745
3,4. Anyone to add?
Anyone has recommendation/experience?
Or better, has anyone compared one to another?
3. V-Moda Vibe Duo (US$100)
http://www.v-moda.com/collection/modaphones/vibe duo.aspx
Anyone?
Koss KSC75... Google reviews on em, you won't find a bad review.
Simply the best quality for cheap (AUS$20).
I've heard, yet to verify, that you'd probably have to pick up headsets upwards of $400 to hear a discernable difference in the audio quality. For the price, you can't lose. Try em
I got a pair, the sound quality is well good.
thx monsieur capeli... nice reference
however, i hope you don't get me wrong but what I'm looking for are audiophile-grade headsets with built in mic, not just headphones.
for headphones, yes there are so many products
but headsets, I can say that they are quite rare.
actually, there are plenty i can buy at just a mere US$2 per piece, but they are by no means audiophile-grade...
My bad...misunderstood what you were saying.
You can try looking on Expansys (in whatever country you're in) for the
HTC W100 Wired Remote Control (assuming your using a compatible Dopod/HTC)
It includes a mic, buttons for controlling music and a 3.5mm plug. That way you can plug in your own audiophile grade headphones and still have a mic for hands free.
Another great pair of headphones (IEM-canal phones) on the cheap:
Crossroads MylarOne X3 from www.jaben.com. I've heard rave reviews and they're only $US57.
If want better isolation try them with the Ultimate Ears bi-flange tips, that can be found on idealsound on ebay (free shipping worldwide.)
Hope that helps.
Sorry the webiste for the MylarOne X3 is http://www.jaben.net/shopping.html
I have a set of Shure e2c's (inear), a set of Shure e3c's (inear) and also a set of Grado SR80's (over the head proper headphones)
The shures are the same as the i series ones but wiothout the mic..
All three are stunning headphones (the Grado's I cant reccomend enough for the cost - they are expensive but not stupidly so) however if you are only going to listen to your phone with them you might be dissapointed.. if you can pick them up cheap enough they do indeed sound better than the stock headphones (on my TyTN at least) but the sound quality from the phone isn't the best.
If you are gonna use them on other things too I can highly reccomend the Grado's and both the shure's although I actually prefer the e2c to the e3c's because of the shape of them.. they are more comfortable in my ears. (Sound quality wise both are very good)
(ah didnt read that you wanted headsets specifically.. i use all of these with a downlead that includes a mic as the tytn doesnt take 3.5mil jacks in any case so id always need a downlead)
hmmm.... well it seems wrong recommending any headset to u before asking wad genre u listen to......
cause some music require a headphone to have lots of bass well the others need more detail n a larger soundstage.
diff brands of headset produce diff signatures and r meant for different genres.... so its really best tt you try them... at ur local headphone dealer but in short
pple tt like shures dun usually like UE ( ultimate ear ) and Sennheiser..... the sound signature they produce r just very different....
Thanks all for the positive reply.
Anyway, just to share that I've even tried to mod my original headset by cutting off the old headphones, soldering a new female stereo minijack as replacement, and then connecting my audio technica headphones into the minijack.
However, the cable got pretty much longer and get tangled easily, I have to reroute it around my body parts everytime I use it Not to mention that the new minijack has added considerable weight that creates uncomfort feeling when hanging over my shirt. And even when I've been very careful in soldering and rewiring, I can "feel" a little sound degradation from the new setup.
That's why I'm so keen in looking for an audiophile stereo headset, built from scratch for that very purpose.
And regarding type of music, I dig everything from fusion, jazz, classic, heavy metal, etc. Hence, I do prefer natural sound. Whenever I need bass or treble I can manage in setting it through the equalizer.
I wonder if there's someone with same interest with me....
How about one of these:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Enhanced-Mini...4QQihZ006QQcategoryZ14419QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Allows you to use any standard 3.5" headphones you choose as it has a built-in microphone for voice calls.
How about impedance?
Anyone know what impedance the headphones should be for proper loading?
dont the earphones state their impedance ?
personaly i doubt that the DA converter in these htc phones are
graded audiophile quality though
Rudegar said:
dont the earphones state their impedance ?
personaly i doubt that the DA converter in these htc phones are
graded audiophile quality though
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Actually, many PDAs have excellent SQ: such as the Asus A620 series or the Dell x5xv series; and my hx4700 isnt bad either.
when i say audiophile i mean those superhumans who can
hear goldcables diff and can tell the diff between the last 1000
their stereo speakers cost more then the 2th best one
I think Padawan is asking on impedance rating specified in his PDA-Phone output,since on the other side one can easily find the impedance on his headphone. This is my curiousity also. Is there a DIY way to measure it? I mean, by using ohmmeter/multimeter or something?
Anyway, I also doubt that DA converter in HTC phones are audiophile grade. But yet, if we can avoid further degradation by using crappy headsets, why not? Since, many of us use our PDA phones as music player too right?
Anyway, to still keep the topics, this is the ramp up until now:
1. Shure i2c, i3c, i4c (starting US$79)
http://www.shure.com/PersonalAudio/P...eadset_content
2. Sennheiser MM50 (US$60)
http://www.sennheiserusa.com/newsite...transid=500745
3. V-Moda Vibe Duo (US$100)
http://www.v-moda.com/collection/mod...ibe duo.aspx
Anyone has tried any of these and be so kind to share your experience?
Relisted:
1. Shure i2c, i3c, i4c (now $129)
http://www.shure.com/PersonalAudio/Products/Headsets/ISeries/index.htm
2. Sennheiser MM50 (now $80)
http://www.sennheiserusa.com/newsite/productdetail.asp?transid=500745
3. V-Moda Vibe Duo (US$100)
http://www.v-moda.com/collection/modaphones/vibe duo.aspx
Shure i4c-t
I used the Shure i4c-t for over a year with my Tornado device. Single gold-plated 4-conductor 2.5 mm connector fits perfectly. Shure says the -t series is designed for the Treo, but the 2.5mm 4-conductor connector was fairly standard on HTC devices until the dreaded extUSB came out (dammit).
I am actually in the process of retrofitting the extUSB connector to my i4c-t headset. I'm trying to find the color-coding of the wires in the HTC headset before I cut into my i4c-t wire.
bubbahump said:
I used the Shure i4c-t for over a year with my Tornado device. Single gold-plated 4-conductor 2.5 mm connector fits perfectly. Shure says the -t series is designed for the Treo, but the 2.5mm 4-conductor connector was fairly standard on HTC devices until the dreaded extUSB came out (dammit).
I am actually in the process of retrofitting the extUSB connector to my i4c-t headset. I'm trying to find the color-coding of the wires in the HTC headset before I cut into my i4c-t wire.
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How's the i4c-t sound quality to you on a 1-5 scale? Anyway, I wonder if you really want to mod a pricey $329 headset... :wow:
I agree that the new mini USB connectors is no less than a new headache for us headset owners. Maybe in future it will serve the universal purpose, but as for the transition period now... sux...
Anyway, the 4-pole 2.5-mm jack structure i learned so far are (on my ETEN M600):
(Be sure to check whether it applies to your device too)
= = = =[[[[[
1 2 3 4
1 : Microphone (white)
2 : Right Audio (green)
3 : Left Audio (red)
4 : Ground (yellow)
5 : Mic. Trigger On/Off (blue) -> connect to (4)
I'd give it a 5 if you're comparing it to other single-driver canalphones, and a 4 if you bring in the dual or triple-driver designs. I tried several before settling on the i4's. These have a perfect balance of bass and crystal clear highs and need no eq adjustment (good since our phones don't have it anyway). Tracks with bass play that bass down to the lowest frequencies, but it is not loud and does not overwhelm the music.
A dual-driver design might be able to play louder bass without distorting the highs (as good as they are, bass-heavy music turned up loud will cause the i4 to muddy up the highs). However, I wanted a single-driver design that would fit entirely in my ear and allow me to wear them while I slept. 90% of their use has been on airplanes, blocking out screaming babies while I doze.
I paid about half of the list price you quoted earlier. Still very expensive, but I feel it was entirely worth it given how much I enjoy listening to them and how much I used them. At the time, any other headset (other than the i2c-t or i3c-t, which I tried) would have required a bulky/ugly adapter and would have killed the microphone.
I just soldered on the extUSB connector. Took a lot of guts to cut the old one off, but I'm spoiled by these headphones and had nothing to plug them into. So now I'm back in business until they change the connectors again... http://www.intomobile.com/2007/05/27/picture-mini-vs-micro-usb.html
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After a long search for the perfect BT stereo headset for my 8125, I've found it.
The Plantronics Voyager 855.
Over the past couple of years, I've had the opportunity to try a number of BT stereo options, from Motorola, Sony Ericsson and some lesser known companies like Sonorix and i-Clip, amongst others.
I was never quite happy with any of them though.
I take the subway to work, and every set of Motorola headset I tried would lose it's pairing to the phone whenever I either lost the cell signal, or regained it (which meant re-pairing 4 times a day). This also happend with non-stereo Motorola when working in conjunction with BTToggle.
The i-Clips actually functioned alright although the stereo quality was only so-so. For answering the phone, the sound quality was really poor unless I held that big clip close to my mouth, and cupped it if I was outside (even if it wasn't really windy).
The Sonorix, though cool because it allowed me to use my own headphones with it's jack, would need to be re-paired every 3 days or so. I don't know why. I was wondering if it was my phone, even though I had flashed to a ROM that everyone else enjoys.
The Sony earbuds sounded good, and functioned great (the only set who's audio controls functioned flawlessly to this point). Having the dangly stick and extra wires made me wonder why I'm bothering with bluetooth at all, though. Wearing a pendant with to earbud extensions running out of it wasn't as practical or cool as the promo material made it out to be.
In short, no bluetooth stereo headset quite met my criteria... either functionality wise, or form factor.
Until I tried the Plantronics Voyager last month.
It's design is perfect for my needs. It's a typical in ear BT headset, with a clip on ear hook. What makes it cool is the clip on ear hook is the connection to the second earbud (and the cord is braided to be more durable).
The sound quality is right up there with the best of the bunch.
I've not run into any re-pairing issues.
The slide out boom works flawlessly for answering/hanging up calls and all the controls work as they should (only the Sony matched that previously).
6hrs of stereo seemed a fair assessment for battery life from my tests.
The Plantronics comes with a good selection of ear buds (small, medium and large as well as the foam type that mold to your ear canal shape), as well as a couple of optional ear clips if you don't want the stereo dangler.
To conserve battery, I often just use BTToggle to get mono audio (out of both sides) when I'm listening to podcasts. It's definitely a hit on audio quality, but that's okay when it's just talking heads.
The only place where Plantronics loses marks is it's charging situation. Though they can be charged from a USB cable from a computer, Plantronics opted for a slightly different connector than a typical mini-USB one, even though there's plenty of space for one.
Of course the old Wizard barely manages to keep up if I'm running Core Player to watch a DivX vid and streaming BT stereo. If a call comes in, it's slowdown time. Then again, I'm usually watching the vids on the subway, so that rarely comes into play.
In short, I finally found the perfect BT stereo headset for me, and just wanted to share. They're discreet, multifunctional and just reek of quality (the braided cord made the difference in keeping them).
PS: I wanted to try out the Jabra 8010 but couldn't find them locally. The Jabra headset has call-display, and apparently a vibrate feature, so if anyone's tried them, I'd be curious to hear about their performance.
Cheers.
Any skipping like the Motorola s9 ?
I am looking to buy stereo bluetooth headset for HD2. I want earbuds, not over the head. Sony Ericsson ds980 got my attention, and also cheaper models like Plantronics Pulsar 260 and Sony DRBT100CX, but ds980 is my first pick so far.
Can anyone point me in right direction?
Thanks in advance.
I have a Magic and I am using this: Bluetooth Nokia BH-214.
Back then I was using HBH-DS970, great sound and good bluetooth performance but the plastic mesh sleeve covering the lanyard part going to the receiver "shrinks" after a few months, exposing the actual wire cables in a "pulled-out" state. If the HBH-DS980 has the same mesh sleeves, I wouldn't recommend it for you.
An alternative is HBH-DS205 which I had next. It has more stable bluetooth connection and longer battery life than DS970/DS980 and its older brothers, DS200 and DS220. Though it doesn't come with in-ear set rather with a standard Bass Reflex earphones, but you have the freedom to use any earphones in the market that has 3.5mm jack. Its only drawbacks are, one, the LCD functions only as a battery/pairing-mode indicator and it doesn't lit up, two, it only has one slider control for both volume and skip track function. But for me it was a good trade-off since it's more convenient to use.
Another alternative choice is the one I have now, a Jabra BT3030. It has complete function controls for music and calls, comes with decent 3.5mm in-ears, and has two options for wearing it, either it be by lanyard or by clip-on. Only drawback I can think of is that it has no screen, which is in my opinion better as LCD screens only add up to battery consumption. Another bonus is that it comes with microUSB port and charger, which you may use to charge your phone with and vice versa. Though these chargers have different ampere output and not entirely recommendable to interchanging use, its a good feel having similar chargers amongst your gadgets, especially when situations that you need them most arise.
had a look at motorola S9-HD? excellent sound
also have a pair of altec lansing 903 - also good sound (not as good as the S9) but better comfort
Yeah, surprised to see that the best ad2p headset isn't even in that shopping list
Get the motorola s9-hd, briefly the best in all aspects amongst all.
I've been using Moto S9s and love em. Great while I'm working out and controls are simple and easy to activate.
Yep, the Motorola S9-hd Rock!
You want the best, then you should buy a Sennheiser MM450 Travel. It's kinda expensive but it has the best sound in the market.
Anyone got any idea what the Sony Ericsson MW600 headset is like? I've got an HD2 and been tempted for a while but reluctant to pay £40 before I find out about them and if they work ok with the phone.
How about somethine like this Sony DRBT100CX seem like what you are looking for. Or the Nokie BH-214. Also, Bluetrek Duo and LG HBS-110
Bunglechunk said:
Anyone got any idea what the Sony Ericsson MW600 headset is like? I've got an HD2 and been tempted for a while but reluctant to pay £40 before I find out about them and if they work ok with the phone.
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Hi Guys, is anyone using the JVC HA-W700BT with their HD2. I need to know if it's fully compatible with the HD2 as I know many of you are having compatibility issues with HD2 and Bluetooth Headsets.
Many thanks in advance
I'm pretty unsure as well. I dont think I want the motorola s9 cause I just dont want a pair of headphones... I've been looking at the Jabra BT8010 and the Altec Lansing Backbeat 903. Both are basically double bluetooths that still have the mic in your ear.
The Jabra's second earpiece detaches which is nice when you just want the BT part in your ear.
But I've heard the 903's earphones fit much nicer in your ear and the strap around the back is nice plus mic quality is suppose to be great.
On the other hand there are a couple units out there that are tabs that you wear around your neck that have a headphone slot...those are pretty nice...but I think I have my choice narrowed down to one of those two.
Just a final question has anyone used either of these two with a newer android device. I'm getting a samsung galaxy s and I'm hoping it works well with it.
Did this thing not come with headphones? I don't have any in my box....
Every review on the web shows the same. This phone simply wasn't packaged with some...it's likely that you'll already have some anyways or you'll eventually get a better pair than they would have ever packaged.
You're probably right but I wanted to test out the FM Radio real quick and low and behold...
The no headphones is surprising, but with a retail cost of 450.00, you can't expect much. I would rather pay less and skip the headphones and mini hdmi cable than pay for them and not use them. I like the headphones I already own. Bundled headphones generally suck anyways. At least my iphone headphones suck that is.
i have these
i love these headphones
http://shop.v-moda.com/p-46-vibe-ii-w-mic.aspx
Also if you wana go alittle cheaper then the V-moda Vibe II, the V-moda Faze are extremly good too, thats what i ended up getting, they run about $49.99 and exellent sound quality and build!
I use super cheap OEM blackberry headphones I get off ebay for like $3 a pair. As far as comfort and sound quality go they seem way better than the other super cheap and kinda nice headphones I have
There's better IEM headphones than any of the V-Moda models for less $ or about the same price imo... MEElectronics M9P, Nuforce NE-7M, Maximo iP-HS5, etc. Head-Fi.org is a great resource for all things headphones. I just bought the MEElec M9P last week and I've been trying 'em out today, I got 'em for $22 w/S&H but I think they went back up in price to $35 (the others are around $50).
I think they're a noticeable step up in quality from the other mic-less IEMs I already had, Sennheiser CX300 and JVC HA-FX34 Marshmallows... Those two are fairly common at retail stores so if you've ever owned either of them you have a fairly good point of reference.
After reading a few threads at HF I ended up w/the MEElec because of the relative SQ to price, and the fact that they have one of the best cords of any IEMs under $100... Hardly any microphonics at all, virtually none if worn over the head (microphonics = cord noise when it bounces or rubs against stuff). It's got like two layers or something (one of them is translucent so it's obvious).
Pretty high quality stuff, nice hockey-stick shaped plug, nice metal casings, comes with 5 different sets of tips (regular single flanges in three sizes and dual-flange tips in two colors) and a bunch of other accessories including a nice hard case that's slimmer than most of those types of cases I've seen. Highly recommended, I like them a lot more than my Senn or JVC (and I paid like $50 for the Senns around 5 years ago, $20 for the JVC recently). I've not been able to test the mic yet since my EVO hasn't arrived and I didn't feel like doing it with the iPod touch's sound recorder or something.
DxTcmix said:
Also if you wana go alittle cheaper then the V-moda Vibe II, the V-moda Faze are extremly good too, thats what i ended up getting, they run about $49.99 and exellent sound quality and build!
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Does the V-Moda Faze have call answer functions?
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I went ahead and bought the FAZE and wow, the sound is great and yes it works for answering/hanging up calls as well as playing music.
Anyone know/test normal apple ipod headphones? I have a pair and they're my usual set and I was wondering if any of the integrated controls (mic, volume up/down, push to pause etc.) work or if anyone knew.
Today I went down to mobilecityonline located in Canal street and purchased the Sony Ericsson MW600 bluetooth stereo headset for use with my EVO 4G.
At the moment it is charging [at least 8hrs], but I wanted to know if anyone it using this particular device?
Once I get it up and running, I will let you guys know how compatible it is with the EVO. Hopefully all the functions will work and I don't have to return it.
update 06/08/10
Well with alot of playing around and trying a few different audio apps, I got the MW600 to function the way I wanted, which saved me from returning it.
My main concern was being able to use the controls on the device, and I was only able to do so with an app called bTunes.
I had no luck with the stock Android music player nor with another App called
Audio Player WithEQ Platinum
Although those two did play via the bluetooth unit, I was not able to use none of the control functions.
With bTunes, I was able to play, pause, and use the forward and backward functions.
On a side note, the headphones that came with the MW600 are very short, but they sound very good. I ended up using my Klipsch Image S4i which I was using previously with my 3GS.
Hope this meets you all well.
Cheers !
dragothegreat said:
i love these headphones
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You better, at that price.
rockdrummersrock said:
Anyone know/test normal apple ipod headphones? I have a pair and they're my usual set and I was wondering if any of the integrated controls (mic, volume up/down, push to pause etc.) work or if anyone knew.
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the iphone headset works
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the iphone headset works
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my iPhone headset works but the VOL +/- doesn't work
anyone have any experience with the inner ear apple headphones they cost 69.99$ i ordered a pair with my iPad(figured i could use em with all my gadgets)
The controls on the Ultimate Ears Superfi 5Vi's are able to pause/play music along with voice dial and answer/hang up
Those V-modo's look cool, but honestly for the price they lack key features:
1- IN-line volume control. not a digital one like iphone headsets, but a slider on it, like the OEM mogul shipped with.
2.- for that price, and especially since it is coated in so much metal, it should have an inline radiation deadener- nobody wants radiation from their phone being transmitted right into their eardrums, especially since the 3.5mm port on our evo's acts as the FM antenna --- that is just insulting
At least from my experience with this device....
You are better off with using bluetooth headphones that can do MP3 bluetooth decoding and using Meridian as the music player. The truth is that while the headphone out is decently clean, it has a relatively high output impedance and not much driving capability. You are much better off getting some headphones with imp between 32-60ohms and at least 97db efficiency and not getting something too nice to use direct.
There is also the issue of when this is hooked up with grounding loop noise if you hook up your headphones to the output. Why the engineers who would put together such a media centric device would not think of such simple things is beyond me, but the iPod does it too and it is a pure music player.
If you happen to use a headphone amplifier, then you can use what you want because the audio signal will likely be free of much ground noise and have a really nice spectrum to it (much better than even my line out was on my iPhone....though not better than my modded iPod Touch).
If someone wants to work on USB host audio drivers I would be elated, willing to help as well. I can even make a custom hardware I/O box for the Evo!
I bought the Bose in-ear ones from Best Buy. I'm going to return them though. The sound is not as vibrant and alive as from my stereo BT set (S9-HD)
robstunner said:
my iPhone headset works but the VOL +/- doesn't work
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Is the volume using the iphone headset loud enough for you? I've tried it and it's too low and the people I'm trying to talk with sounds like they are fading in and out.
I'm thinking of returning since I can't even use it as a phone with the wired headset.
I feel the stock headset is really lacking in some areas. I need advice as to what's a good headset. I use a razer Moray which is really clean and nice but really lacks in bass. They are somewhat better than the stock 1. Also i would like a headphone that doesn't leak the sound for everyone to hear outside. The stock sony does a good job at that.
What do you guys use?
I uses a pair of FitEar MH334 running with USB OTG through my Just Audio uHA-120Dsc DACamp.
Eats the stock headset for breakfast, very affordable.
Really? Find It quite good actually, could hold its ground against the sony mh1c And even my se215. Would recommend the audio technica im50/70
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I'm using kef m200 with mic and they're really great powerfull sound
If you want a good bargain, try AKG K321.
I think it's the best deal for an high quality in-ear.
Very good isolation, nice highs, good mids and AWESOME bass.
Sent from my Honami!
I am currently using The Yamaha EPH-30... the Sound is quite good for the Price i got it for (Rs.1300 thats like just 25$)
Denon AH-C301, works with calls and I love them.
Vanarian said:
Denon AH-C301, works with calls and I love them.
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do all the functions of these headphones work with the xperia Z1? or just some of them.... I'm deciding between these and bowers & wilkins C5. Right now I'm using the bose in-ear
a bargain for less than 10usd or less than 600inr. philips she3590, belive me.. u gonna hate this headset,after u blow out ur eardrums.. what about a 10'boss subwoofer+10" jbl woofer+a philips midrange + a sony tweeter combined in a box ..and fitted on either side of ur head... this is the same shi##.
i own 12 headsets.. including sennheiser, sony,jbl wood,sonyericsson,panasonic,nokia,and htc beats edition , well.. all are midranges.. costing less than 5000INR, now u should be thinking that why this guy went for a 600INR philips.. the reason is.. under 5000.. the only competition it get is from JVC HAFX1X Xtreme Xplosives and some of its siblings like 3580,35xx,8xxx etc. but in its price range, nothing on earth matches to its overall sound perfomance( of course she3590 have its siblings in 35xx series,which have mic too, and all are under 1000INR, and all contains same drivers, so they all sound same or bout 98% same.)
so, if u want to see ur friend who own some sony xbh, or sennheiser cx, or beats, or anything which cost him $100 or less cry.. , buy one of these, plug into his ears, and watch him cry..:victory::cyclops:
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do all the functions of these headphones work with the xperia Z1? or just some of them.... I'm deciding between these and bowers & wilkins C5. Right now I'm using the bose in-ear
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I think the only functions working are Play/Stop and Call/Stop Call. Though the design of the button is pretty cool and awkward at the same time. You won't be using it at all for switching songs or change volume without having to hold the earphone which has the button mounted on it. But calling somebody, or making play/Stop on the go is discret and natural, and comfortable.
Everything depends on what you want to do.
Bower & Wilkins and Denon C300 series are nothing comparable. You won't get the same experience. There are very few earphones that compare to the C300 range actually. You're not listening to earphones, you're walking around with a private dimension surrounding you with music (either instruments and singers or a DJ or anything about what you play), and in this dimension lays a subwoofer made to turn your private room into a party room. It doesn't bleed in any way, but it is damn enjoyable.
Durability might also change a lot, since the Denons are very lightweight and well built. I don't see them dying on me anytime soon.
I recommend you to look at the last Senheiser IM50 & IM70 lines too. Though if you want something different, with less bass but even better details clarity and naturality, go for Denon C400 Music Maniac line. You will also like the other line of Senheiser (don't recall the names).
JVC FX1X are cool too, in fact those are the rare earphones that I would try to compare with my Denon C301. Of course they don't match, but the fact that a 15$ pair of phones can compare to a 300$ pair of phones is enough for you to imagine how JVC has hit the sweet spot. You just need to burn them for 150hours to reveal them fully.
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I think the only functions working are Play/Stop and Call/Stop Call. Though the design of the button is pretty cool and awkward at the same time. You won't be using it at all for switching songs or change volume without having to hold the earphone which has the button mounted on it. But calling somebody, or making play/Stop on the go is discret and natural, and comfortable.
Everything depends on what you want to do.
Bower & Wilkins and Denon C300 series are nothing comparable. You won't get the same experience. There are very few earphones that compare to the C300 range actually. You're not listening to earphones, you're walking around with a private dimension surrounding you with music (either instruments and singers or a DJ or anything about what you play), and in this dimension lays a subwoofer made to turn your private room into a party room. It doesn't bleed in any way, but it is damn enjoyable.
Durability might also change a lot, since the Denons are very lightweight and well built. I don't see them dying on me anytime soon.
I recommend you to look at the last Senheiser IM50 & IM70 lines too. Though if you want something different, with less bass but even better details clarity and naturality, go for Denon C400 Music Maniac line. You will also like the other line of Senheiser (don't recall the names).
JVC FX1X are cool too, in fact those are the rare earphones that I would try to compare with my Denon C301. Of course they don't match, but the fact that a 15$ pair of phones can compare to a 300$ pair of phones is enough for you to imagine how JVC has hit the sweet spot. You just need to burn them for 150hours to reveal them fully.
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Dude those suggestions are costly.. Do u think that these are cute for a phone with no dedicated dac amp chip?? Ofcourse its worth when u have a pair of headphone amp made of tubes. Or atleast htc one phone. Or even a sony android walkman. Which have smaster digital amp. I suggested big bang for peanut's cost. I adore jvc x1x, but they are like solar eclipse, cant get one, most of the online stores say out of stock!!!
Also there is a matter of comfort too, big inears make uncomfortable for prolonged use, tiny less weighted, smooth curved ones are better.
I think like this, dont go for high end ones if ur source of audio ( here - the phone) is not that good, also dont go for scifi type 3-4 driver types bulky costly ones, if u intend to use the rough,or in travel, they are really intended for studio qualities and not worthy unless u own chunky flaac files.
The worst thing about carring headphones- cable damages,loss of earbuds, etc.. Unless u have a carry case, but who wil carry a case, if u can put that in pocket, earbuds are for pockets, i think u get the point.
To sum up i opt for decent pair,which i can carry arround,and afford to loose or damage.
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Dude those suggestions are costly.. Do u think that these are cute for a phone with no dedicated dac amp chip?? Ofcourse its worth when u have a pair of headphone amp made of tubes. Or atleast htc one phone. Or even a sony android walkman. Which have smaster digital amp. I suggested big bang for peanut's cost. I adore jvc x1x, but they are like solar eclipse, cant get one, most of the online stores say out of stock!!!
Also there is a matter of comfort too, big inears make uncomfortable for prolonged use, tiny less weighted, smooth curved ones are better.
I think like this, dont go for high end ones if ur source of audio ( here - the phone) is not that good, also dont go for scifi type 3-4 driver types bulky costly ones, if u intend to use the rough,or in travel, they are really intended for studio qualities and not worthy unless u own chunky flaac files.
The worst thing about carring headphones- cable damages,loss of earbuds, etc.. Unless u have a carry case, but who wil carry a case, if u can put that in pocket, earbuds are for pockets, i think u get the point.
To sum up i opt for decent pair,which i can carry arround,and afford to loose or damage.
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Well those are costly but you just need to know where and when to look. the retail price is normally expensive but I got my Denon C301 for like 30$, plus 10-15$ shipping. The phones themselves were not that expensive. And there might not be anything in ear bigger in size than those ones, the drivers need to breathe! 3-4 drivers earphones are generally more compact or a bit longer, but slimmer (which I honestly can't explain, I'm more into headphones blueprints, not earphones).
About our Xperia Z1, it's true that I usually ride it with one or two portable amp but tube amps are useless with earphones, what will really take the win with those ones are full sized headphones of high grade. And at this point it is also all about combination, high grade cables (full silver, silver copper, gold? etc). The only earphones pair that I see getting past its own type might be the Unique Melody Merlin series. And it is as expensive as full size headphones.
Also don't underestimate the Qualcomm DAC, it is really well implemented in our Xperia Z1 and we're talking about a portable source+smartphone here, not a single dedicated portable source. From this point of view, it is definitely one of the best music phones you will get from 2013-2014. Clean and lively sound, no distortions, instrument separation and spacialization are well made too. And the DAC is silent. Sony has made his homework here.
What I mean is : you CAN enjoy quality earphones or headphones from it. May be not at the earphones' full potential but I'd say 80%, the last remaining percent being cherry on the cake. If you go a little further away and plug an amp, you bring maybe 90%. To get even better, you need a real equalizer which our phones are never going to get anytime soon, unless a developper takes time to do a 10-30 parametric bands EQ with sliding gestures, since the bands are not going to fit the screen's size.
And it also depends on the files you're listening to, you're right. If the user uses 120kbps MP3, he can just use Apple earbuds. He gets past the compressed music and tries better encoded files, there quality cans and earphones are going to show how worthy these are.
Anyway, if you plug twin-driver (like mine or Music Maniac) or triple-driver (like Ultimate Ears Triple Fi), you will enjoy them with the Z1. And I'm sure that you will enjoy the Senheiser IM 50 or IM70 too. (Off-topic, but I'm pretty surprised to recommend Senheiser to somebody, considering I almost hate what Senn do with headphones. Some people love the HD-25 for exemple, I hate it the most. Not worst headphones I've ever heard, but dead absent soundstage and weak low/mid bass made it unbearable for me. I just think that the earphones here are well made).
EDIT : HAHA I remember why I didn't recommend Senn.... IM70 and IM50 are AudioTechnica! Stupid me for switching names!
The real problem with multiple drivers is : the more drivers you have, the more power you'll need, so an amp might be required. As for my personal taste and comfort, I bring a bag sized just to contain my wallet, my passport and my driving licence. Pretty small, right? I always have a little pouch in there too where I store my Denons and my two portable amps. Everything fits into my little bag too. The thing is still slim and compact. So the setup is fully portable, considering I'm really often going everywhere.
This is right for the JVC too : those earphones need a proper driving to give everything. Well, if you've never heard headphones or earphones through an amp, you won't care and you will already notice the difference between models. If you're already familiar with amps, I suggest to try to get an Headstage Arrow, a C&C BH or a Digizoid ZO. For the size and price, and performance provided, there might not be anything that compares. The rest might be either bigger, more expensive or will not perform as good.
(I don't know if my post is confusing to read, I tried to answer to showlyshah and the OP too haha, my bad if it looks messed up).
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I think the only functions working are Play/Stop and Call/Stop Call. Though the design of the button is pretty cool and awkward at the same time. You won't be using it at all for switching songs or change volume without having to hold the earphone which has the button mounted on it. But calling somebody, or making play/Stop on the go is discret and natural, and comfortable.
Everything depends on what you want to do.
Bower & Wilkins and Denon C300 series are nothing comparable. You won't get the same experience. There are very few earphones that compare to the C300 range actually. You're not listening to earphones, you're walking around with a private dimension surrounding you with music (either instruments and singers or a DJ or anything about what you play), and in this dimension lays a subwoofer made to turn your private room into a party room. It doesn't bleed in any way, but it is damn enjoyable.
Durability might also change a lot, since the Denons are very lightweight and well built. I don't see them dying on me anytime soon.
I recommend you to look at the last Senheiser IM50 & IM70 lines too. Though if you want something different, with less bass but even better details clarity and naturality, go for Denon C400 Music Maniac line. You will also like the other line of Senheiser (don't recall the names).
JVC FX1X are cool too, in fact those are the rare earphones that I would try to compare with my Denon C301. Of course they don't match, but the fact that a 15$ pair of phones can compare to a 300$ pair of phones is enough for you to imagine how JVC has hit the sweet spot. You just need to burn them for 150hours to reveal them fully.
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@ vanarian. You are right buddy.. Audio clarity demands 85% analog circuits and devices and only the rest is digital. I am an electronics hobbiest for about 15 yrs, and i am an electrical engineer. I have had time with analog amps and circuits a lot. And now in the digital era, i dont see any thing quite pleasant as my old cassette walkman. Now we punch up every thing, but then we lack its natural feel. I love analogs and old electronics.. I have built several amps for myself and others. I always opt for transistors or mosfet than ics( for ic, i choose gainclone ckts), i am much like a purist.
Now i am building a dac based portable audio amp for phones and usb host enabled devices. A dac + amp setup, powerd from usb port, smaller than a pendrive, when i finish, i will post those in hardware hacking thread here on xda.
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@ vanarian. You are right buddy.. Audio clarity demands 85% analog circuits and devices and only the rest is digital. I am an electronics hobbiest for about 15 yrs, and i am an electrical engineer. I have had time with analog amps and circuits a lot. And now in the digital era, i dont see any thing quite pleasant as my old cassette walkman. Now we punch up every thing, but then we lack its natural feel. I love analogs and old electronics.. I have built several amps for myself and others. I always opt for transistors or mosfet than ics( for ic, i choose gainclone ckts), i am much like a purist.
Now i am building a dac based portable audio amp for phones and usb host enabled devices. A dac + amp setup, powerd from usb port, smaller than a pendrive, when i finish, i will post those in hardware hacking thread here on xda.
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I look forward to it, this will definitely be a wonderful setup.
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I look forward to it, this will definitely be a wonderful setup.
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If u have an experience in electronics. I will give u a guide:-
1) buy a usb soundcard, there are several with choice of volume control, audio in/out, 2 to 7.1 channel audio o/p etc. I simply went for a normal one with 2 channel audio in/out with no volume control. And it works with xperia z,and z1, but not with htc one 4.2, but no matter, its just a driver problem, and can be fixed if we can manage to put the geniric usb dac driver into the rom. ( or may be its fixed on latest 4.4.2) infact most of the latest devices support it.
2) open the usb soundcard, and trace down the audio out channel circuit, there will be three wire connection, R,L,G.
3) now find a simple audio amp circuit, or opamp circuit, which can be used as a headphone amp,google search it, head-fi forms and other forums have lot of links and references. The thing is the ckt must be capable to operate in <= 5v and should not draw currents more than 100-200 ma at peak.
4) now connect the audio input to audio o/p of dac chip of usb soundcard. And use the same 5v power source from usb to power the amp ckt. Then connect the o/p of the amp ckt to a 3.5 mm headphone socket.
5) done. Now u have a digital amp that can be plugged directly to ur phone's usb host port, and can drive some beefy headsets.. Costing u less than 5 $. If u can manage to assemble the whole thing into an old casing of something like pendrive or netsetter, it looks like some professional device too..
Nb:- Dont use amp ckts that produce more than 1w, or u will burn ur headset. And dont draw lot of current, probably less than 300 ma from ur phones usb, or u will burn the usb chip of phone.
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showlyshah said:
If u have an experience in electronics. I will give u a guide:-
1) buy a usb soundcard, there are several with choice of volume control, audio in/out, 2 to 7.1 channel audio o/p etc. I simply went for a normal one with 2 channel audio in/out with no volume control. And it works with xperia z,and z1, but not with htc one 4.2, but no matter, its just a driver problem, and can be fixed if we can manage to put the geniric usb dac driver into the rom. ( or may be its fixed on latest 4.4.2) infact most of the latest devices support it.
2) open the usb soundcard, and trace down the audio out channel circuit, there will be three wire connection, R,L,G.
3) now find a simple audio amp circuit, or opamp circuit, which can be used as a headphone amp,google search it, head-fi forms and other forums have lot of links and references. The thing is the ckt must be capable to operate in <= 5v and should not draw currents more than 100-200 ma at peak.
4) now connect the audio input to audio o/p of dac chip of usb soundcard. And use the same 5v power source from usb to power the amp ckt. Then connect the o/p of the amp ckt to a 3.5 mm headphone socket.
5) done. Now u have a digital amp that can be plugged directly to ur phone's usb host port, and can drive some beefy headsets.. Costing u less than 5 $. If u can manage to assemble the whole thing into an old casing of something like pendrive or netsetter, it looks like some professional device too..
Nb:- Dont use amp ckts that produce more than 1w, or u will burn ur headset. And dont draw lot of current, probably less than 300 ma from ur phones usb, or u will burn the usb chip of phone.
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Thank you for the steps! I'll try to do one, I need also to build a quick waves measurement kit. I'm trying to mod a pair of headphones with a whole new design (orthodynamics kind!) and if my assumptions are correct, there will be two consequences for the drivers : the sound will get a HUGE leap in term of quality, but the drivers will also become a lot more hungry in power. I can't tell yet, it is a real mess in my head.
So if by any means the cans become more hungry than these are already, having this will help me test them further.
Choose some low impedence drivers.
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not so low ...I have 12ohm kef m200 and I can say not every device can handle that low impedance (z1 can perfectly) ...best for mobile are ~32ohm which are efficient a lot (eg 120 db)
i am using Soundmagics e10- very low costs - for me enough quality for a smartfone.
It has enough hearable bass. They are loud. They are small fit good and smart. If i loose them, it was not expensive.
It is truth about the audio source what has been said here so i will stay with these.
it is a smartfone not a portable studio so any soundcards (which would make it probably much nicer) are (too) big and probably (too) battery hungry devices.
If i want everything perfect i`m rushing home and listen to music on hifi setups with soundcards subwoofers and all these stuff
instead of having troubles getting my phone in my pocket on a train because of a soundcard connected
Hello, I am very much kind of headphone lover guy.
Recently, I bought Beyerdynamic DT770 Pro 32Ohm (32Ohm version for portable users).
But the sound is not coming to its best. I plugged the same headphone to iPhone and it's working awesome. iPhone quality is same as it work on macbook and PC.
So, I was worried, is my headphone supportable on my Nexus 5 or I just have to invest in buying mp3 player.
I will provide link, where you all cann see the specifications and tell if that is supported on this device or not, because I am not that much of technical guy.
Headphone Link - http://north-america.beyerdynamic.com/shop/dt-770-pro-32-ohm.html
I have rooted my phone and is currently running on ElementX kernel and Chroma ROM.
Hope you guys can help me.
Thank you.
Is it quality that's bad or volume level? Or a bit of both?
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More of a volume. The quality is good.
Try this - https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.n5rvb.nexus5realvolumebooster
Also i always use poweramp with the preset set on rock. Always find it the best sounding
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Install any kernel management app, like kernel adiutor, and in sound menu raise headphone gain.
So I just did what you said. I already have paid version poweramp and installed volume booster, set it to 19 and 95 for headphone and speaker. Set my present to rock, but I was just little curious, are you also facing a little distortion in the sound or just me? Because I think, I can listen the distortion, maybe because these are kind of Audiophile headphones, so they are giving deep detail of every sound.
As far the volume matters, its 2.00AM, so very much silence environment but I can definitely feel the volume is increased.
How much did I set the headphone gain too?
I already installed the volume booster app, should I also gain on this app too?
Try these!!!!!
These are the "loudest" and best in-ear buds you can get!!!! http://amzn.com/B00WI79EK0 They are Zorloo "Z:ero". Forget about booster apps, eq apps, etc... This thing has a inline "DAC" it plugs into the "USB" port and not the 3.5mm jack. Read up on it!!! I have wasted money on many in the ear, over the ear, everything under the sun to get the best sound and these are my latest find. (Thanks to an article about the Nokia 808 and how people are pimping them out). I cant say enough how LOUD!!!!!!!!!! they are.
YOU WONT BE DISAPPOINTED!!!!
I think they are lurking under the radar because its not a "Brand" name like Shure, Whitestone, or any of the "high" end stuff people are used to paying 100's of dollars for. But the technology using "DAC" has been around and if your looking for something to drive your "over the ear" stuff maybe a usb cable micro to mini adapter and then a USB DAC Stick might work for you... I am sure you can also try to "hack" the "Z:ero" by cutting off the "ear buds" and then going to the local "radio shack" and getting a 3.5mm stereo input jack and soldering the four wires to it and you just made yourself a custom low cost "DAC"...
Just a quick review I google...
http://www.soundguys.com/zero-digital-earphones-review-5997/
Try them!!!
Install viper for android. It helps with the sound processing on the N5 immensely.
I was going to say something about the impedance, but my headphones are a higher impedance than that 35ohm, and I'm pleased with the quality and volume. I know you are not looking for just volume, you are looking for volume and quality. Something I found in the past with some of the Android EQ settings (didn't matter which app) some of the settings like bass boost, would actually lower the volume coming to my headset.
A good set of headphones shouldn't have to have any EQ settings changed at all, leaving it on flat should be the best, and for preference, you can always use flat as a reference.
Every headphones is different from others: if you want a boost in volume/quality, you should try an amplifier like FiiO E6 (http://www.amazon.it/FiiO-E6-Amplif...6?ie=UTF8&qid=1439893840&sr=8-6&keywords=fiio )
32 ohm is a bit high for a smartphone, so there is a possibility that Nexus can't handle that well.
I have a pair of 32 ohm dt770 as well as 32ohm mmx300 Beyerdynamic. They both work fine.
They definitely shine with a good headphone amp, but if you're running without one straight to a phone or laptop, definitely get 32 ohm. It's the lowest they make for mobile type uses.