Bluetooth headsets range with universal - JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro Accessories

I notice there is alot of disussion over BT headsets, and several threads adressing range/crackling/'static' noise .
However, none of them clearly identifies several BT headsets which won't have problems with using range with Universal - as our pet gadget definetly have it's own issues performing considerably worster then other BT phones / PDA-s with headsets.
So I would kindly ask you all to identify me few models of BT headsets you are using and which can normally communicate with universal in most common situations without crackling/static/disconnections.
I have used old Nokia HDW-3 - and it performed excellent, I could walk all arround the room, turn my head in any direction, stand in between phone and headset (even with universal) and it would sound flawlesly. However, I got the new headset X-sport - very tiny (less then 8g) and fitting me comfortably, but alas, when I charged it and tried to use it - it crackles even if my Uni is on the desk infront of me and I turn my head away.
Please advice on models I could mail order without fear of showing this flaw.

Dalm said:
I notice there is alot of disussion over BT headsets, and several threads adressing range/crackling/'static' noise .
However, none of them clearly identifies several BT headsets which won't have problems with using range with Universal - as our pet gadget definetly have it's own issues performing considerably worster then other BT phones / PDA-s with headsets.
So I would kindly ask you all to identify me few models of BT headsets you are using and which can normally communicate with universal in most common situations without crackling/static/disconnections.
I have used old Nokia HDW-3 - and it performed excellent, I could walk all arround the room, turn my head in any direction, stand in between phone and headset (even with universal) and it would sound flawlesly. However, I got the new headset X-sport - very tiny (less then 8g) and fitting me comfortably, but alas, when I charged it and tried to use it - it crackles even if my Uni is on the desk infront of me and I turn my head away.
Please advice on models I could mail order without fear of showing this flaw.
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I am using Sony ericsson Stereo Bluetooth Headset HBH-DS970. The coverage and sound quality are excellent. It offers full A2DP funtionality with Windows media Player as well as pocketmusic. The hardware controls on this headset include Forward and previous track button (which really work with my universal with Darkforce Rom), volume control and an OLED display which displays the caller ID (number only). Voice dialing works perfectly. The earpiece looke like normal earphone (no buldging contraption on the ear like most bluetooth headsets.

Bottom Line:
Any radio freq. is line of sight. So if you turn your head and the two radios (Receiving & Transmitting) are not in LOS, it means that the signal needs to bounce off something else, or go through something, (in this case probably your Head ) which causes the signal to fade, hence the interference.

Laubscherc said:
Bottom Line:
Any radio freq. is line of sight. So if you turn your head and the two radios (Receiving & Transmitting) are not in LOS, it means that the signal needs to bounce off something else, or go through something, (in this case probably your Head ) which causes the signal to fade, hence the interference.
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bluetooth range is also sometimes ROM specific

I'm quite aware that line of sight provides optimal radio connectivity. But in theory as well as in my experience, good bluetooth connection should be able to cope with such an obstacle as my head providing that distance is about 50 - 70 cm.
However, I guess that most of Universal users are well aware that our devices have inferior performance to most 'regular' mobiles on the market. Is it location of the BT module or ROM - I don't know - it would be great if it's ROM as it would make it relatively fixable. I'm using QTEK latest shipped ROM 1.30.77 WWE together with R.13.00 radio ROM - but willing to change if it helps.
However, by what I red in other threads on this forum, inferior performance is more likely caused by location of BT module in the device.
Thus some headsets which have better BT transmission and reception (more radiated power and better reception) due to their construction should provide us with better BT performance). Thus the 'field test' is only good pointer which headset to buy or not to buy. For me, BT headset which can't communicate from my belt to my ear when I break line of sight by my hand swinging while I walk - is unusable - I'll much rather wear a wire
I tried my old Nokia HDW-3 and it performed great. On the other hand I tried that X-sport tiny one - it was disaster. Now I'm waiting new examplar of good old Nokia as well as Jabra BT800 - I'll report about the field tests

I've tried two options with my QTEC 9000 and using Windows Media. I bought Motoroka S9: really nice concept with the BT unit embedded in the back of the headband, and the sound quality is excellent, and switched between music and calls easily, the track forward (but not backward) control worked, buttons easy to manipulate. Several drawbacks however: it becomes uncomfortable on your ears after an hour or so due to the the design and the hard plastic used (may depend on the shape of your head) and the phone mic only works through one earpiece not in stereo (this is stated in the documentation, it was not a problem with my setup). The fatal flaw however was the BT range. It worked fine when I hold the phone behind my head, inches away from the headset BT unit, but this was impractical for extended periods of time When I put the phone in my jacket pocket or shoulder bag, the continual breakup of the signal made it unuseable. The phone signal performed better but for music this has very limited success and certainly doesn't work as a mobile device, which is sort of the point.
I then bought a Sony Ericsson HBH DS200. The range problem is resolved, music streams fine with my device in my pocket, shoulder bag or briefcase. I can walk around a room and listen to music and make calls no problem, although the music signal drops out when blocked by my body and the distance is about 2m or more. The swithching back to music after taking or making a call is a bit flaky, sometimes i need to reset the devise again to reestablish the connection, but sometimes it works OK. No caller ID on the headset, no volume control, no track back/forward, so it's a bit basic, but after the previous experience, I'm just happy it works. The supplied earbuds are good, and you can unplug them and use anything else you want with a 3.5 jack.
Hope this helps.

Jabra BT800 Jabra BT250V Plantronics A510
The Jabra BT800 (or 810, whatever it was with the LCD) would not get very loud with my Universal. It also wasn't very secure. The LCD would have been cool though...
The Jabra BT250v was very secure, could get plenty loud (most times), but had crappy reception, and worse reception when/if an SD card was inserted. When I say crappy reception, i mean bad. At arms length the headset started having static. As far as I could tell it was only I who heard it, but when I started hearing static, the person on the other side couldn't really hear me.
Plantronics A510 is the bomb!! (in a good way). I have only had it for a few days, but it is super lightweight, gets plaenty loud enough, and I can walk almost 30 feet form the Universal and keep a connection. AND thats while I have an SD card in! It's less than $50 on amazon and is their #1 selling product! It has 1700+ reviews on the site, which I found impressive.

AllanonMage said:
The Jabra BT800 (or 810, whatever it was with the LCD) would not get very loud with my Universal. It also wasn't very secure. The LCD would have been cool though...
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I can confirm the issues with the volume for noisy conditions. In that case I have to manually raise the volume on the headset.
In my silent office the volume's just fine, but yes, it could be higher by default.
I never experienced problems with the range or any disturbances.
With the Universal on my desk I can even wander around on my balcony, which means being about 4 meters away and having no direct line of sight.
With a direct line of sight static gets noticable at about 8 meters, which is living room couch to kitchen sink
I got the BT800 from a good friend who felt uncomfortable wearing it and he told me, that he experienced range problems if the phone was in his left pocket and HS on his right ear. He was using a, mmh, i believe a wizard at that time and the behaviour didn't change after switching to a btv 500 or 250.
This brought me to the theory that range problems in case of small distances are closely related to the belly size of the user.

EvilJogga said:
This brought me to the theory that range problems in case of small distances are closely related to the belly size of the user.
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PRICELESS!!!!

Related

BT Headset recommendations...

I have the BT800 and so far my experience with it is pretty negative.
Other than the fact that it just doesn't sit will on my ear, all the people that I have phone conversations with tell me that my voice keeps cutting off every couple of seconds. They have a hard time understanding what I'm saying.
Anybody else have this behaviour? Which BT headset do you guys recommend?
I am also looking for recommendations for a new BT headset, but let me also contribute with what I had (lost it now).
I had the Bluespoon AX. It was by far the most comfortable thing I have ever put in my ear. It is so small and light and comfortable, that you almost forget it is in there, and at the end of the day, you find it in your ear by accident sometimes.
That said, when I lost it I did not shed a tear. Using it with Universal was quite painful. The sound would crackle if the AX and the Universal were on different sides of my body. Not a distance issue, but somehow an interference from my body in between.
The AX is useless in any environment there is noise and/or wind. I suppose they could not use a directional mic because the mic is so far away from your mouth (practically *in* your ear). It worked fine when I was sitting in a quiet place though, but then...
With the Universal, only the handsfree profile is available. While this worked fine for outgoing calls (can make voice dial calls and all), for some reason on incoming calls, when the AX is active, Universal would not ring. The only call indicator is on the AX and if you don't happen to be wearing it at the time, you will miss the call.
I have been reading up on other models. The AX2 apparently has better reception, but I am not sure about noise and the BT software problems.
The digital model has noise cancelling, but it is way too expensive to buy it on faith alone.
Motorola H500
atekant said:
I am also looking for recommendations for a new BT headset......
Using it with Universal was quite painful. The sound would crackle if the AX and the Universal were on different sides of my body. Not a distance issue, but somehow an interference from my body in between.
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Same problem with my Motorola H500... anyone any ideas how to avoid this apart from buying another model
I have HBH 662 (Sony Erricson). Its very tiny, formerly it did not fit easily in my ear, but now I used to it, though I do not like to have it on all day long. The sound quality is too low/not loud enough though I set to the highest volume already. The battery life is not good, it barely survives my every day calls, I'm not a super call person, just average.
Things that really annoying:
- The Caller ID display is too small to read and it only shows the first half of the caller's number then scroll the remaining digits.
IT DOES NOT show the caller's name. Have been patiently enough to wait for this to be fixed by MS/imate/other vendor whatsoever. If anybody has a workaround, PLS.. PLS... PLS... share....
- The ringer is very low and intended to tell you there is a call if you have it on your ear. Does not have a vibrate function. If the Universal is in silent mode, most likely I cannot tell when there is an incoming call.
I have HBH 662 (Sony Erricson). Its very tiny, formerly it did not fit easily in my ear, but now I used to it, though I do not like to have it on all day long. The sound quality is too low/not loud enough though I set to the highest volume already. The battery life is not good, it barely survives my every day calls, I'm not a super call person, just average.
Things that really annoying:
- The Caller ID display is too small to read and it only shows the first half of the caller's number then scroll the remaining digits.
IT DOES NOT show the caller's name. Have been patiently enough to wait for this to be fixed by MS/imate/other vendor whatsoever. If anybody has a workaround, PLS.. PLS... PLS... share....
- The ringer is very low and intended to tell you there is a call if you have it on your ear. Does not have a vibrate function. If the Universal is in silent mode, most likely I cannot tell when there is an incoming call.
Bt Headsets
I am using the Bluestreak G2 headset which seems to work O.K. and Has About 8 hours of use. Background noise is acceptable but it doesn't seem to do noise cancellation.
Have noticed that if WIFI is active with BT the headset drops out a little. Seems O.K. If Wifi is off & BT is on. Not ideal if you want to use Skype with BT.
Have tried the following with my Exec:
- Tekkeon ET3000 (with display like the BT800 but better), great battery life, good volume, okay quality sound, okay comfort, no problem with call transfers from the Exec
- SE HBH-608, fantastic battery life, very comfortable, good quality sound, very comfortable, okay volume (seems limted by the Exec)
- Jabra BT800, okay battery life, okay comfort, good sound quality, okay volume, seems a bit slow transferring calls between the headset and the Exec
Have you tried putting the names/numbers also on the SIM Card?! I read somewhere that headset profile is using the SIM Card's phonebook...
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- The Caller ID display is too small to read and it only shows the first half of the caller's number then scroll the remaining digits.
IT DOES NOT show the caller's name. Have been patiently enough to wait for this to be fixed by MS/imate/other vendor whatsoever. If anybody has a workaround, PLS.. PLS... PLS... share....
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No, it does not work either, even though the contact name is saved in the SIM card. Have been searching for workaround/solution but have not found any good answer yet.
globalsat
I have the Globalsat gps338 ,and it works very well ,use with gpstuner ,and teletype gps software which is slow to update on the Mda pro but the bluetooth gps pair well with the program and with 9 satellites showing indoor .Any Sirf III chipset will be ok.The only thing that does not work in the universal is the gpsinfo program that comes with the gps338.
Anyone with the gps338 ? works well with mapapolis too.
gagis said:
I have the BT800 and so far my experience with it is pretty negative.
Other than the fact that it just doesn't sit will on my ear, all the people that I have phone conversations with tell me that my voice keeps cutting off every couple of seconds. They have a hard time understanding what I'm saying.
Anybody else have this behaviour? Which BT headset do you guys recommend?
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You mean the Jabra?
Update the Firmware - there's a patch available on Jabra.com - I did thsi recently and it's a big improvement. Even my wife can hear me properly now.
(not sure if that's a good thing or not to be honest.....)
Re: Motorola H500
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atekant said:
I am also looking for recommendations for a new BT headset......
Using it with Universal was quite painful. The sound would crackle if the AX and the Universal were on different sides of my body. Not a distance issue, but somehow an interference from my body in between.
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Same problem with my Motorola H500... anyone any ideas how to avoid this apart from buying another model
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what, like carrying the phone on the same side of your body as the headset??
(Like it says to do in the instructions... )
Thx Riceburner!
figures! I've been checking the Jabra site for an update repeatedly but of course as luck will have it, as soon as I stopped looking...there it is.
I will update my BT800 tonight and see what happens. Tell me, did you have the same problems? Voice kept cutting off? All around bad performance from this headset?
thx.
motorola H700, great audio, great look, light and good batteries and......................same mini USB charger
Well...no improvements.
I updated the firmware on my Jabra BT800 and although I noticed an improvement in the time it takes to transfer the call to the headset, I still have the same problem with my voice cutting off.
I tested it repeatedly by making more than one phone call and the result was always the same. While I'm speaking, the person on the other end says that my voice keeps cutting off. Therefore beginning or end of words are totally cut off. Very frustrating to have a conversation when the person on the other end keeps saying "what?".
If nobody else is having this problem with the BT800 and the Universal, then I guess I got stuck with a faulty headset?
i have the hbh 662 sony. not impressed with it to be honest. unless i am less than 1/2 metre from it, the quality of the line deteriorates alarmingly. I was hoping to be able to stick it on the kitchen table and then walk around having a phone call. I can't do this.
Also had ideas for having the universal in my pocket, and using the headset almost as a standalone phone. This doesn't work that well either. tried the headset with a orange c500 , and it was so much better.
also upgraded to the latest radio update (1.04.02). this didnt do anything for the quality of the line either.
is it the universal or the sh1te ms bluetooth stack? how does the jabra bt 800 compare?
(i have the orange m5000 with a qtek rom)
Nextlink Bluespoon AX2
Hi there,
using Bluespoon AX2 with my universal(MDA pro) with NO compromises.
Have a cabrio and even driving the car sound quality is good.
You can pair EIGHT devices on this headset simoultanesly and supports Bluetoth1.2
Good stuff for 60€
...and by the way...it is SMALL and easy to put on as you can put it IN your ear not around
Plantronics
Hi
I have Plantronics and I'm happy about this 8 grams headset.
Ciao[/b]
hi everybody.I want to buy a headset for my mda pro with qtek rom(radio 1.13).
I'd like to spent about 50 euros.Any suggest?
nobody can help me?

My Review of the Nokia HS-12W A2DP BT Headset

It's pretty good,
My first concern was that the sound quality was going to be rubbish, like when you listen to music with a mono BT headset, something I never did because aswell as being mono it also cut all of the clarity from the music ! fortunatly I can report the music makes it through in hi quality sound
My second concern was that the audio player was not going to work properly fortunatly although not perfect it's working quite well !! most notably the track listing is not showing in the screen, the biggest down side is that it stutters a bit from time to time, not so much that you want to throw it aginst a wall, but enough to be mildly irritating (seems to be linked to a bit rate issue) . also rewind and FF do not work with the universal, but next/previous track does, as does pause and auto pause on phone ring. I am a bit dissapointed that nokia did not include any kind of equalizer settings I personally would like some more bass.
The phone side is quite impressive I like the ability to quickly redial the last number or voice dial however due to the same limitations as the audio player it is currently not displaying peoples names only their number !! otherwise works quite well.
The FM RDS radio is a nice addition, it works well considering the aerial is the strap around your neck
my biggest overall gripe (ie wont be fixed by a firmware upgrade) is the shape of the earpieces, for a company that have been making headsets for this long these are awfull, it's like wedging big uncomfortable lugs in your ears, the real jasjar earpieces are way more comfy (and have better bass response)
So far only tested with media player as reports would indicate that for now A2DP only works with media player
Re: My Review of the Nokis HS-12W A2DP BT Headset
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I am a bit dissapointed that nokia did not include any kind of equalizer settings I personally would like some more bass.
So far only tested with media player as reports would indicate that for now A2DP only works with media player
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Once the Pocket Music and Pocket Player people get on top of it, you can have remote control with their programs, as both offer equaliser/preamp.
Both are working on it.
Cool I look forward to it !!!
I have got to the bottom of my stuttering !! it is nothing more than signal strength, but I dont see why it is happening !! its hard to explain but the signal is not as robust as when you are just using it for phone calls. it claims 10 Meters and its true that in an open area with devices able to see each other both phone call and music will just about manage 10M however if you put an obstacle in the way (like a door) , where as the phone would continue to work the music player will not !! infact for 100% reliable music you are looking at 1 meter (open air) , and half that again if your phone is buried deep in your pocket.
check my review here:
http://www.mobileplanet.com/forumthread.asp?code=121010&thread=2
Guys whats your range like, i get no more than a meter away from my phone and the sound drops out, also have a hiss in the background that is really annoying at low volumes any thoughts ???
I did mention the whole 1 meter thing in my second post !!! I can't hear any hiss ( none loud enough to degrade the music anyway !!) tested with my Exec at full volume and media player also at full volume but the headset at minimum volume, ( thus giving the headset the best signal to noise ratio to play with )
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It's pretty good,
My first concern was that the sound quality was going to be rubbish, like when you listen to music with a mono BT headset, something I never did because aswell as being mono it also cut all of the clarity from the music ! fortunatly I can report the music makes it through in hi quality sound
My second concern was that the audio player was not going to work properly fortunatly although not perfect it's working quite well !! most notably the track listing is not showing in the screen, the biggest down side is that it stutters a bit from time to time, not so much that you want to throw it aginst a wall, but enough to be mildly irritating (seems to be linked to a bit rate issue) . also rewind and FF do not work with the universal, but next/previous track does, as does pause and auto pause on phone ring. I am a bit dissapointed that nokia did not include any kind of equalizer settings I personally would like some more bass.
The phone side is quite impressive I like the ability to quickly redial the last number or voice dial however due to the same limitations as the audio player it is currently not displaying peoples names only their number !! otherwise works quite well.
The FM RDS radio is a nice addition, it works well considering the aerial is the strap around your neck
my biggest overall gripe (ie wont be fixed by a firmware upgrade) is the shape of the earpieces, for a company that have been making headsets for this long these are awfull, it's like wedging big uncomfortable lugs in your ears, the real jasjar earpieces are way more comfy (and have better bass response)
So far only tested with media player as reports would indicate that for now A2DP only works with media player
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Please tell me one thing: I've seen the unwired.net review state that the headset can connect simultaneously to a headset profile and A2DP profile, but only if coming from the same device, meaning that you cannot have A2DP coming from your PDA and Headset coming from your phone. Is this true? The guy said it was a preproduction model and firmware can be changed, so could you please tell me if this is in your model too?
Yes, this is true. It can only connect with one device at the same time.
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Yes, this is true. It can only connect with one device at the same time.
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That means this device is crippled, as it is very common for one to have music on one device and use another as a phone...
Do you know of any other product that offers the same opportunities in a similar form factor desides this one? I've found this one from Sony Ericsson http://www.sonyericsson.com/spg.jsp...der&php=php1_10394&zone=pp&lm=pp4_1&pid=10394 but it does not have radio.
I'm looking for something very close with this Nokia headset. Only one thing left, that I think very important. I want to be able to unplug the earphones from the unit. This is important, so that when we get to the airplane, we can unplug it and still use the same earphones connected directly to the Uni without the BT on.
Secondly, it will enable the unit to be plugged into Car Audio AUX input.
I have saw a couple of headsets that have this feature, from GlobalSat, and from itech. But both do not have caller ID screen.
http://www.usglobalsat.com/item.asp?itemid=98
In short, I want something like this Nokia, but detachable earphones like the Globalsat or itech.
I'll probably be getting this as well very soon. Just one thing, has anyone tried it with wizard and if so, what was it like?
Anyone know where to get one in the US? All links found so far are sellers in the UK.
im sure expansys US are selling it !!
Since my review I have tried it with a nokia phone and it performs better, the issue with signal strength from 50CM or less through you body has been improved. The main problem might be the positioning of the BT chip in the UNI, this may never be fully resolved !!! unless someone can hack the UNI firmware to tell the BT chip to broadcast with more power than it should.
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im sure expansys US are selling it !!
Since my review I have tried it with a nokia phone and it performs better, the issue with signal strength from 50CM or less through you body has been improved. The main problem might be the positioning of the BT chip in the UNI, this may never be fully resolved !!! unless someone can hack the UNI firmware to tell the BT chip to broadcast with more power than it should.
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Thanks, i will look at their site.
I bought the Nokia a few weeks ago but havent really tested until today. After reflashing the rom on my BA and installing the A2DP cab it works very well. Range is good with line of sight and the controls work ok. Only thing is an occasonal sound dropout of under a second, which has already been mentioned. Not enough to be a problem so far. Sound could use a bit more bass but that can be solved with a player that has an eq. Overall im happy with the Nokia.
I've had this headset for a week and am very pleased with it. Before this one I had the bluetake i-phono mini 450rx and they weren't half as good. This headset connects quikly, plays music with good sound, the radio is good with the programming of the radio stations literally being a minutes work. And most importantly, I can have a decent conversation with someone without problems. I experience stuttering ebery once in a while. But as commented above the range isn't great, but it's good enough to live with. The only downside at the moment is that I have to use windows media player that needs the playlist to be set up every time and the remote control doesn't work after a while of listening to music or after using other apps. I hope that this is a software issue. Before I had my mda I always had nokia phones because they were the best developed in their music functions. This headset strikes me as being the same good technology combined with A2DP. So in the whole I am very happy with this headset. I don't mind the earphones, I think they're comfy (far better than the original mda pro headset which gave bad sound and wasn't stable or comfy), everybody their own preferences. If I had to go for an alternative to this headset, I would go for the sony ericsson HBH DS970, but I didn't have the patience to wait for it and it doesn't have a radio built in. The only downside to choosing the universal was that it doesn't have a radio (something I've had in my nokia's for a while). Now my universal it complete and I am one proud universal owner!
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you can use the pocketmusic.You have to buy it but it works fine with the HS-12W. All the AVRCP commands works.
The HS-12W its really great. The only downside its that the universal dont use all of his functions. No ID caller, no play list in display, no message alert.
I belive that there is a software problem. I hope someone finds the solution.
But dont getr me wrong: the HS-12W is great.
I wouldnt say the HS-12W was great at all
my review:-
*sounds quality is good, but you can't unplug and plug in your own headphones.
*completely unergonomic design, Nokia should take a lesson from Sony on ergonomic remote designs, each button should 'feel' different. Each time I want to do something on the nOkia I have to actually look at it.
* it's pretty ugly, anyway no where near as nice as the HBH-DS970 (or whatver it's called ) the sony ericson one.
but as far as the basic connection, streaming that all works very well.
all just my humble opinion so take with pinch of salt
Here is a link to a user review of the sony ericsson headset http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?p=7463154#post7463154
I personally prefer the Nokia as it has a radio and the construction is solid. Also no problems resuming music after a call.
Everybody his own opinion, it all depends on what you want from a headset.
In any case I'm happy with this headset but agree that the headset has more possibilities than the universal uses, maybe in time there will be an update or something. But untill that time it works fine.
About pocket music, I'm not sure it works so great. I downloaded the trial version and tested it with some music, but the remote control didn't respond. Maybe I should try it again. I want to be sure the software is worth it for me before I buy it.

Bluetooth Stereo: Jabra BT620s vs Motorola HT820 vs others?

I'm thinking of getting a Bluetooth stereo headset, mainly for running. Any recommendations?
I am using a Motorola HT820 with pleasure.
It is very comfortable and has a good sound.
I sometimes do have a high frequency interferense, but that's not bothering me.
More BT headsets have this issue, as you can read here: link
But you say you need it for running.
Keep in mind that the Motorola (and others) are worn horizontally on your ears.
I don't know if they keep in place when running.
I can imagine they start to lower by every step.
Never had a problem with my Motorolla HT820, plus it only cost $75. I am pretty sure Jabra's are more expensive.
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But you say you need it for running.
Keep in mind that the Motorola (and others) are worn horizontally on your ears.
I don't know if they keep in place when running.
I can imagine they start to lower by every step.
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Yes, it does stay on when you are running. It has ear hooks to sit comfortably on your ear. Pictures here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=46786
Does you Motorola HT820 not produce some high pitch noise? That's what I've gathered from my research on the Internet.
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Does you Motorola HT820 not produce some high pitch noise? That's what I've gathered from my research on the Internet.
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I've never encountered this high pitched sound. So far, no complaints on mine.
Hi there.
I did encounter the high-pitch noise you mention, so much that I had to return the Motorola, which was otherwise an *awesome* product on all respects.
But I'm not so sure the problem necessarily comes from the headset... I wouldn't be surprised if it were the signal from the Universal that causes this high-frequency noise. Unfortunately, I didn't keep it long enough to try reverting back to radio ROM version 1.09 (as I use v1.11) or to try it with other bluetooth stereo sources.
They indeed are fairly heavy, though, and I'm not sure if they'd remain comfortably on the ears if used when jogging.
Besides, as they have a closed design, it is potentially dangerous to wear them in urban areas, for instance.
My HT820s don't have a high pitch noise either. I paid full US retail for mine, $129.99 @ Radioshack because they were the only ones in town that had them in stock and I do not trust Ebay with Motorola products. Half of them are knock offs :lol:
I really like my HT820s, they sound pretty good, comfy for a 2-hour period or so, and battery life is superb.
I bought O2 exec while ago and been using it daily. such a wonderful device, it answered to every demands that my business required. Love to have a wireless headset to listen to music so I just bought blueant X5 bluetooth headset. One word, WOW, sound is so clear and it does have a good bass response. Compare this with Moto HT820, I think it does have better quality. Picked it up at 155 AUD at landmark Computer shop ( RRP is 199 AUD).
Advantage
1. Good bass response
2. Accessories bundle in one package
( including audio streamer device which I find the most advantageous compare to others products )
3. Long lasting batteries ( I was playing music non-stop for 11 hours and there is still some left in batteries that I think it can go over 12 hours without any problem )
4. Quite good user manual ( even my girlfriend can follow its instruction to setup )
I didn't have problem with high pitch noise when it is near my computer or other mobile phone.
155 AUD is also the cheapest price I can find. you need to do a bit of bargain cuz they ask for 165 Aud.
Cheers
I have a Jabra BT620s and it's working great. The sound is awsome (phone and MP3) and A2DP is no problem at all.
Batterylife is very good (+/- 12 hrs on one charge)
Buttons on the headset for phone and mediaplayer.
Sound is very good (no weird noise or high pitched things )
And had good reception, I can carry my 9000 in my pocket, without hickups or lags.
Just one weird thing though, if you use the headset, and pickup an incomming call with the button on the phone... the sound goes through the normal internal speaker on the 9000 and NOT the headset :S But if you use the headset button, no problems
edit:
The price € 99,-- (at www.pdashop.nl)
another edit:
You can charge the headset via USB! And it can work as a headset on a computer via the USB cable.

HS-12W:My preferred BT-Stereo Headset has no more warranty.

because in order to get it, I had to cut the original earbuds off...
How did I get to do this? (either read the story or jump to the end.... )
I had first tried out the Sony Ericsson HBH-DS970 and found out that it was not enough compatible with the HTC Universal (e.g.: after a call it would not continue to tranmit the music stream)
I then tried the HS-12W. All important features are supported, just ID-Tags are not transmitted nore is the name of the caller (but the number is).
On top of it it has a RDS-FM radio built-in...and looks good too...I decided I wanted to keep it.
Only problem: I could hardly understand anything....the original earbuds had a shape/size that just sat so strangely in my ear that the front was not exposed to the inner ear but rather covered so that the sound level was just too low.
Since I am one of these guys who do not give up easily when they are convinced of an idea, I was looking for a solution to the problem.
I remembered an enhancement item for the original ipod earbuds: I bought a couple of Griffin Ear Jams. I cut them in a shape to fit the Nokia buds and glued them to the rubberborder of the ear buds. Not bad at all. It was loud and had much more bass than before.
It did not maybe look supergreat with these white add ons, and frankly, the more I was listening, I found the sound to be lacking treble and somewhat sounded like from under a pillow. My personal belief is that the original earbuds are lacking treble in order to reduce the transmission of some white noise caused by the BT connection...and with the Ear Jams in place that enhanced the bass the pillow sound was perfect. It was really not bad at all, but as I said, with the time I noticed it more and more...
Before buying the Nokia, I had used Sennheiser CX-300 headphones when listening to music. An excellent value for money, it rivals easily headsets of double the price.
Now, all of a sudden. with the Nokia, I had no use for the Sennheiser anymore.... It was just laying there, on the board, getting dusty.....
should I never ever be using it anymore? Such a good pair of headphones...if only the Nokia had better earbuds...
Do you guess the rest?
Yes, i did it: I cut the original earbuds from the Nokia, freed the Sennheisers from it's cables...and transplanted them onto the Nokia HS-12W....
Yes, it worked. And it sounds just soooo good.
where did you cut it? just near to the earbuds or at the connection to the neck? (the other end of the cable)?
My problem is with the Universal + HS12W combo is that its SOOOOOO stuttering :evil: . If its on me, the Uni is in my hand, it can stutter... it can always stutter... I ask: why?? Maybe it's not because of the reception quality because at home I can move to the other room and it doesn't loose the connection just the stuttering factor rises... Is it the bandwidth or lacking CPU?
I'm starting to think about throwing it to the wall...
other con: radio sensitivity is very BAD.
I cut them somewhere in beteen the earbud and the microphone so i did not lose the speaking function. (sennheiser is only headphone).
i agree with the suttering issue. i tend to believe that it is more the pda side..bad antenna construction..but at the end who cares if it does not work...i must say the way i am using the combo i can live with the shortcomings. i also feel the stuttering increases with the transferred bitrate.
as far as the fm reception is concerned: i am not unhappy with the quality, obviously it is n ot noise free most of the time, but i get my main stations in a reasonable manner, i find. (and then most of the time i am listening to internet radio streams..i am on a 5GB plan...
cheers,
Andy.
AndyME said:
I cut them somewhere in beteen the earbud and the microphone so i did not lose the speaking function. (sennheiser is only headphone).
i agree with the suttering issue. i tend to believe that it is more the pda side..bad antenna construction..but at the end who cares if it does not work...i must say the way i am using the combo i can live with the shortcomings. i also feel the stuttering increases with the transferred bitrate.
as far as the fm reception is concerned: i am not unhappy with the quality, obviously it is n ot noise free most of the time, but i get my main stations in a reasonable manner, i find. (and then most of the time i am listening to internet radio streams..i am on a 5GB plan...
cheers,
Andy.
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I can agree with the bad radio construction on the uni side.. This was mentioned in an other topic too I think . It's good you have 5GB plan.. we have only 200MB for a reasonable price.
How do you control the bitrate between the devices? Does the mentioned registry setting (hklm\sw\ms\bluetooth\a2db\setting) working? I've started to play with it, but originally, this key hasn't existed.
i was thinking about the lifetime of this device, because of the battery (not replaceable)by user, and the fixed headphones... looking ath the price of that headset i don't want to throw it away after just one year..
Hi kchris,
sorry for late reply, I did not get a notification.
re. bitrate control I cannot comment. I just meant to notice that with higher bitrate e.g. different quality of radio streams, the connection is more sensitive since the buffer holds less seconds of sounds.
I only have a problem if i use the universal in the rear pocket of my pants. the body is a real obstacle for bluetooth waves, it seems. not very elegant, but it works: if you hang the display over your shoulder so it hangs down on your back, there is no stuttering if the htc is in the rear pocket....(at least in my case).
There is a screw at the back of the device...no I have not opened it yet...lol...but I would guess one can have access to the battery easily, the question is only where to get a new one from... :?
(Between you and me: gadget freek that I am, I would be surprised if I still have it in one year....but who knows...I really like it...)
Exchanging against the Sennheisers for me was a great solution, the sound has improved so much, I did not expect it, I must say.
I have to admit: I love to adapt things to my needs....
There are headsets where you can use the headphones of your choice, but I think in this case the mic must be in the device itself, so it will be quite far away from your mouth..or maybe it could have a mic on a cable that you have to clip somewhere high on the shirt..I don't know how good this is supposed to work or how convenient it can be...

Bluetooth Headsets/Headphones - Who has 'em? Mind doing a test?

So I've got a pair (if you can call it a pair) of Motorola Motorokr S9-HD Headphones.
I can connect them to the phone just fine, but when I cover the bottom portion of the phone with my hand the signal drops out completely and I was wondering if anyone else experiences this or if it's just me.
So surrounding the bottom portion of the phone (with the Home, Menu, Search and Back buttons) with my hand and the signal drops out. Headphones on, phone in front of me.
Same thing happens if I push the phone up against my chest/stomach, no signal. Sometimes to the point that it disconnects entirely.
Normally I would be like "no big deal, I just won't do that." But the phone being in either my front or back pocket causes the same effect, making them kind of useless.
So, end result, is it my headphones, my phone, or both? Can you test the headset you have and see how it works out for you?
I've attempted this on stock ROM with Root, Fresh 5.3, and DC 3.2.3 with the same results each time.
I tihnk the BT and WIFI ant's are on the bottom
teh CDMA is on top -- if i cover the top, i can go from 4 bars to 0 barz
if i cover the bottom the wifi drops a lot
i think the BT ant is pretty weak .. couldn't go more than 10 ft from a laptop doing audio streaming
i'll try the BT later on when i get home unless someone else gets to it first
strung said:
I tihnk the BT and WIFI ant's are on the bottom
teh CDMA is on top -- if i cover the top, i can go from 4 bars to 0 barz
if i cover the bottom the wifi drops a lot
i think the BT ant is pretty weak .. couldn't go more than 10 ft from a laptop doing audio streaming
i'll try the BT later on when i get home unless someone else gets to it first
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Well if the BT antenna isn't on the bottom, then why is it when I put my hand over the bottom the signal drops?
I want to see if anyone else can replicate this issue..
I have the same headset. I tried everything you did and it works for me. I occasionally get a breakup of audio, but it is not related, however it is the headset.
Brutal-Force said:
I have the same headset. I tried everything you did and it works for me. I occasionally get a breakup of audio, but it is not related, however it is the headset.
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Damn, that sucks. I hardly used the damn thing. Thanks for checking it out, I would have assumed it was the phone.
Sirchuk said:
Well if the BT antenna isn't on the bottom, then why is it when I put my hand over the bottom the signal drops?
I want to see if anyone else can replicate this issue..
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i'm saying the tooth antenna IS (probably) on the bottom hence why you cover it up it dont work as good. sorry my grammer sucks
I would swap it for another one. While generally I find the headset to be a great improvement over past Bluetooth Headsets, I am still not impressed that after 15 years that bluetooth has been around that it has yet to impress me as a wireless medium.
This headset is still only class 2 and Bluetooth 2.0. Where are all of the Class 1 and Bluetooth 4.0 devices?
I have tried all the Plantronic, Jawbone and Numerous Motorola devices and have been left wanting. I will probably be returning this headset as well. Although it has good sound quality, the earbuds (event he smallest ones) are too big for my ears and they do not seat down inside like a quality pair of tips. The phone breaks up especially while on the phone, but for listening to music, it is in general quite a good device.
The biggest problem with going wired headsets is that people have quit making a good wired stereo heatset with mic.
well, I have had 20 or more BT headsets, and, the only one I have EVER had that played music without breakup is the Jawbone Icon..
Sure the sound sucks, its mono and tinny, but I never lose signal with pandora, slacker, or sd card music with this headset..
motorola s9HD was one of the worst ones I had for losing signal from my phones..agree that its a shame that no one is able to make a HQ STEREO BT lightweight headset that doesnt drop signal yet..
the backbeats are damn good for music, world better than my s9s. ive got the 903 but the 906 are supposedly even better
I have the same issue with the motorolas, not as bad as you but I do get the breakup if i carry the phone in front of me. I have the Shure 530 headphones which kick ass so I got a Sony BT Transmitter, I think it is the BT15 or maybe the BT30, works perfect for me, I clip it on the front of my shirt plug in the Shures and presto bluetooth. The receiver even has a built in mic, works about as good as the Motorolas.
http://www.google.com/products/catalog?hl=en&q=sony+bt15&rlz=&um=1&ie=UTF-8&cid=10714892124428811058&ei=YH43TJrnAdWfnwf_ob2ABA&sa=X&oi=product_catalog_result&ct=result&resnum=3&ved=0CC0Q8wIwAg#
I can't for the life of me remember which one I have but be advised one of them has a mini usb charger the other requires a specific cradle, i go the one that has the mini usb, didn't want to carry around a specific charger for this.

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