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Kingmax Digital Creates Global Sensation with World's First 4GB & SD 2.0 Compliant microSDHC Memory Card

I want one

That's great....
...now we just have to get the Artemis to work properly with memory cards in general!!!

Longhair said:
Kingmax Digital Creates Global Sensation with World's First 4GB & SD 2.0 Compliant microSDHC Memory Card
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As far as i can see the artemis is not compatible with SDHC cards, this may be possible with a patch or rom upgrade - so guys dont rush out and buy one it most probably will not work.

meschle said:
As far as i can see the artemis is not compatible with SDHC cards, this may be possible with a patch or rom upgrade - so guys dont rush out and buy one it most probably will not work.
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damn it. I'm super interested in one of these. fingers crossed

think its more hardware support that you need for SDHC, not entirly sure of this though

I read on another site that SDHC is basically FAT32 rather than FAT16.
If this is the case does that mean it could or couldn't be handled in software?

Does SDHC work after WM6 update?

Hi guys,
I need to get a bigger microsd card, but i would very much like to buy (and use) the new sandisk 4gb micro SDHC. I read in another thread that it might work after WM6 upgrade...
i've also read this press release stating that new drivers are available also for the omap850...
Can someone confirm wether or not a 4gb micro SDHC works after the WM6 upgrade?
thanks!

no, wont work. there is different sd-reader HW. You are asking questions like if i can play DVDs on my CDplayer after firmware upgrade. NO IT WONT.

phsnake said:
no, wont work. there is different sd-reader HW. You are asking questions like if i can play DVDs on my CDplayer after firmware upgrade. NO IT WONT.
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I don't think you've read the pages i linked to. The first is a thread here on xda-dev. where someone tells us that the upgrade to WM6 brought sdhc to the trinity... so that would tell us it is not a hardware thing.
the second link tells us about a softwarestack to bring sdhc to (among others) Omap850 ... so that's why i would like to know if someone that has actual hands on experience with the combination WM6 & sdhc cards could tell us if it works, instead of someone just bloating without looking.

geezer78 said:
so that would tell us it is not a hardware thing.
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Regarding Trinity: The Software upgrade also brought GPS to Trinity. So GPS is only a software thing??
I guess Trinity has already SDHC compatible HW chip inside, just the SDHC drivers were missing.

2esackbauer
Well, and why do you think Artemis has no SDHC compatible chip inside? Are you an insider? Recall please,
HTC has not ever declared the fact that Trinity has got SDHC compatible chip inside, either. Moreover, Trinity can not work yet with SDHC cards running officially issued ROMs installed.

as far as i understand, they are speaking about drivers for CPU beccause as i know OMAP, Marvele.... are CPU's. So it means that those drivers will be able to communicate with CPUs mentioned in that article and SDHC hw. Still we are on the same point, if U have cd player it wont read DVDs. Other thing is if Trinity has SDHC hw. but i dont believe so. It will be unreasonable expensive for htc to built it. You can argue that Ericcsson T10 and T18 were the same except for active flip and vibrations, but the reasson then, was in amount t10 and t18 sold(or expected) and price of changing or making another line. I could believe it in case that htc already presented Arte lookalike with SDHC supp. but in this case i simply dont. BTW as i remember, Trinity was presented in betas with GPS, and when it was launched it was widely known that it has GPS chip+antena, but they launch it without drivers because there were some troubles with comm between drivers and chip and OS, and it will be too expensive to delay launch of trinity even if it was w/o GPS
esackbauer: in this case was GPS only SW prob. (btw i like beer too)
nemo8: do you think that if you can enable SDHC only by new drivers, here will be numbers of those drivers in beta versions for downld?With 10-50%functionality? For ex. at least using those drvrs u would be able to read directory tree? i believe that yes.
HTC has not ever declared the fact that Trinity has got SDHC compatible chip inside, either. - i dont have trinity but can U give me link where u found out that it has SDHC hw? DOes it have SDHC supp on cooked ROMS?

From wikipedia:
A new SD format, SDHC (Secure Digital High Capacity), allows capacities in excess of 2GB (4GB to 32GB)[10]. SDHC uses the FAT32 file system which supports the higher capacity instead of FAT16[11]. It uses the same form factor as SD, but the SD 2.0 standard in SDHC uses a different memory addressing method (sector addressing vs byte addressing[12]). SDHC cards only work in SDHC compatible devices, but standard SD cards work in both SD and SDHC devices. The SDHC trademark is licensed to ensure compatibility.[13]
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All changes are in logical access. According to this, driver change could allow to use SDHC card in devices.

DOes it have SDHC supp on cooked ROMS?[/QUOTE]
Yes, it does have SDHC support on WM6 ROMs cooked by two talented ROM-creators, whoose nick-names are mun and lvsw. I have seen it with my own eyes(it worked successfully with 4G miniSDHC). And therefore I hope p3300 also would be able to support this card format running WM6 OS. The new driver might have been included into officially issued WM6 ROM. We just need someone to check that.

nemo8 said:
DOes it have SDHC supp on cooked ROMS?
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Yes, it does have SDHC support on WM6 ROMs cooked by two talented ROM-creators, whoose nick-names are mun and lvsw. I have seen it with my own eyes(it worked successfully with 4G miniSDHC). And therefore I hope p3300 also would be able to support this card format running WM6 OS. The new driver might have been included into officially issued WM6 ROM. We just need someone to check that.[/QUOTE]
Marvellous! In that case I would have to try it out on my XDA Orbit then. Just waiting for the 4GB SDHC to arrive. FIngers crossed.

OK then i appologise, it will be perfect to have sdhc supp on artemis (if u check size of W-Euro map for tomtom - some 850mb) it will be marvelous. I never heard of making sd devices working with sdhc, but if you've seen trinity working with SDHC i simply believu You. btw i think trinit was released before arte(month or two) so there is a chance to have same sd hw. Sorry again, that i didnt believe it.

mavericke said:
Marvellous! In that case I would have to try it out on my XDA Orbit then. Just waiting for the 4GB SDHC to arrive. FIngers crossed.
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Excellent! I am Really looking forward to your experiences!

mavericke said:
Just waiting for the 4GB SDHC to arrive. FIngers crossed.
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Any Luck Yet?

alright gutys got wm6 running. went into my local o2 store and tried one of the sandisk 4gb. DOES NOT WORK!! the only dam phone they work with without any modding is the n95!!!

coz83_2000 said:
alright gutys got wm6 running. went into my local o2 store and tried one of the sandisk 4gb. DOES NOT WORK!! the only dam phone they work with without any modding is the n95!!!
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Maybe we need some (cooked) drivers? i believe that was necessery for the p3600 as well??
thanks for giving it a try though!

Has anyone tried the official HTC ROM and tried using the 4GB MicroSDHC card?

i ve got the XDA orbit with the HTC WM6 ROM installed and the 4 gig SDHC CARD DOESNT WORK
;(

That friggin sucks!

Just find this driver : SDIO Hx version 1.1
Compatible omap850 on wm5 and wm6

That driver does what exactly? Has it been tested?

jontymisra said:
That driver does what exactly? Has it been tested?
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"BSQUARE announced the availability of SDIO Hx version 1.1, the newest release of its ultra high-performance software stack for Windows Mobile and Windows® CE devices. Version 1.1 features support for next-generation high-capacity memory cards. SDIO Hx version 1.1 is the only software stack with both Windows Mobile and Windows CE support for the new Secure Digital High Capacity (SDHC) standard defining high-performance memory cards from above 2 GB to 32 GB."
more information here
Thx for info geezer78

MicroSD / MicroSDHC [2/?]

Dear All,
I am trying to unravel the many MicroSD and MicroSDHC questions/answers that are being posted.
To put it into simple terms I have bought a 4GB MicroSDHC card for storage. I can understand that this will not work with the standard MicroSD hardware but is it possible now or could it be possible in the near future to D/L a patch/driver and uploaded/install to make the card work or does this involve a physical hardware change.
Secondly, are there 4GB or even higher MicroSD cards available on the market 2 GB are just not enough.
Thanks in advance.
Regards,
jsthomson.
My techincal brick is an:02 XDA Orbit,WM5, GPS [CoPilot 'Live'].

To put it into simple terms I have bought a 4GB MicroSDHC card for storage.
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Secondly, are there 4GB or even higher MicroSD cards available on the market
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...at any rate, the answer to your questions are both yes

schemer said:
...at any rate, the answer to your questions are both yes
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MicroSD, not MicroSDHC, so the answer is no

So which one is it...YES or NO
Regards,
Steve Thomson

There are 4 GB and higher MicroSDHC but not MicroSD. MicroSDHC is a new hardware specs and software patch/firmware will not enable compatibility.

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my friends i buy a microSDHC 4Gb...
and works with my Trinity, not 100% but it's works

What do you mean "not 100%"?

anyone got a link to the 4gig MicroSDHC I hear that it works fine ont htc titan aka mogul I wanna buy it

4GB MicroSD

Does 4GB MicroSD card work on the S621?

No... for more info, this question has been well covered in this forum, try out the search feature -- it works well.
edmondt said:
Does 4GB MicroSD card work on the S621?
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edmondt said:
Does 4GB MicroSD card work on the S621?
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It cannot support a 4GB MicroSD card because all 4GB+ are SDHC. The S620/S621 can only read up to 2GB. A phone like the HTC Touch is able to support 4GB+ SDHC memory.

But there are others who says that it works on their device running WM6.... Can anyone confirm that?

What 'others'...? Can you confirm that with a link to a particular post?
edmondt said:
But there are others who says that it works on their device running WM6.... Can anyone confirm that?
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chaznet said:
What 'others'...? Can you confirm that with a link to a particular post?
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Okay, I am not sure which source you are referring to BUT there was one thread where somebody found a key in the registry that was named "SDHC" which started a speculation that the Dash could of supported SDHC cards. However, it has been confirmed that SDHC in that registry meant "Secure Digital Host Controller" which is used for the STANDARD MICROSD reader.
http://www.jamerican.net/?p=9
Trust Me! If the Dash supported SDHC MicroSD cards, there would definitely be a HUGE THREAD about it.

Hello, I have a french s620 upgraded with french ROM WM6. And now with WM6 the S620 accept microSDHC.
My Sandisk microSDHC 4 GB works fine. It works fine too in my Kaiser
I m waiting for my 6 GB and test in the s620 when I receive the card.
Sorry for my bad english ...

Hmmm... same hardware here, same OS, just tried it -- my device doesn't see it. Just one of life's many mysteries I guess
roswell78 said:
Hello, I have a french s620 upgraded with french ROM WM6. And now with WM6 the S620 accept microSDHC.
My Sandisk microSDHC 4 GB works fine. It works fine too in my Kaiser
I m waiting for my 6 GB and test in the s620 when I receive the card.
Sorry for my bad english ...
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It does work...For some models I guess:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=333753

SDHC on HTC 620
Well I can confirm that the 6GB SDHC card from Sandisk works brilliantly. No problems. You just have to be sure you have Windows Mobile 6.0 installed on your phone and you are good to go!

4gb works fine!
My s620 runs a 4gb SDHC frim Sandisk. it works perfect! I´ve installed WM6 on my s620. Merry Christmas!

Looks like Chaz got pwned
J/P... but looks like it may very well work

will the 6gb and 8gb micro sdhc cards work as well?

An 8GB micro SDHC card works as well !

Will artemis support 16 GB Microsd....

I have one question, not on original rom but on the Micro SDHC supproted any cooked ROM will support 16 GB or NOT?
Tell me if anybody knows,
If yes i want to buy it......
I know 8 GB is supported in Artemis SDHC supported ROMs,
I own 4 GB now...

It supports SDHC or not, you can always partition your SD.
Regards,
Carty..

but i have micro sd card slot not a sd card slot

Carty said:
It supports SDHC or not, you can always partition your MICROSD.
Regards,
Carty..
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I hope you understand it now

If your device supports SD2.0 (SDHC) then it will take any MicroSDHC size up to 32GB. Hope that helps

incredulous said:
If your device supports SD2.0 (SDHC) then it will take any MicroSDHC size up to 32GB. Hope that helps
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That's the que I m asking that in the factory made original ROM this Artemis dont support more than 2gb, but after an upgrade by a little software or any sdhc supported ROM it's supporting upto 8 gb. So, as Htc says its not SD2.0 compatible.
So after that also(after upgrading) will it support 16 GB.
That's my que.

Does microSDHC faster in real word ?
Such as record VDO, Take a picture, activesync...

I thought I answered your question. Any device that takes a SDHC card WILL take anything up to 32GB MicroSDHC.

you said you have 4gb card, it is SDHC, so you can put the 16gb card, you can also put a 32gb if you can find one.

Thanks man
so my artemis will support 32 GB
fantastic

where did you found the 16gb card?
I made a search and not found to buy one.

idk if it helps any1, but i have 16GB kingston in my artemis, rom is touch vanilla 4.0.2
it reads it well, i use it for music and all that, but sometimes it freakingly losing it, totally =( i have to soft-reset my device to death, like dozens of times to get my sd back. that's A problem, and idk what to do w/ it. trying to find a solution.
in a meanwhile setting up touch full with cube 4.0.2.

chiqo said:
where did you found the 16gb card?
I made a search and not found to buy one.
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try it you see and order in --> http://shop.ebay.com/?_from=R40&_tr...&_nkw=16+GB+Microsd&_sacat=See-All-Categories if not wrong price less than $ 39.59 Free shipping