Threaded SMS is great. I've been using the Palm threaded SMS app for months and would never dream of going back to non-threaded SMS. However, the other day I installed PocketCM contact manager and have been playing with it. It includes a threaded SMS feature, and I like it. I'm thinking about abandoning the palm app. However, there's positives and negatives of both.
This is a poll, so if you have experience with them both, please pick which SMS option you prefer. I also have a specific question which I'll ask at the end of this post, after talking about each of the threaded options I've mentioned here.
Palm Threaded SMS app:
Here's one of a few good threads on it.
Positives:
1. Works well and does everything you'd want it to do, including MMS
2. Backing up of your SMS messages is simple. Just backup the PalmMsgV001 file under the windows directory; it contains all messages.
Negatives:
1. Text input methods other than a hardware keyboard cover up what you're writing, so you have to write blind if you use the onscreen keyboard, transcriber, etc.
2. Some people claim problems with multiple messages being sent, but it seems that this is fixable by not closing the app just after sending a message (just minimize it.)
3. On one ROM I had a problem with missing messages sometimes, but this was fixed by always keeping the app running.
PocketCM:
This is the maker's website for this app, and here is a thread with a screenshot of the threaded sms using PocketCM (it's the one 3 over and 2 down with the yellow and blue text bubbles.)
This app does not replace the main SMS app. It works separately and functions mainly as a display for the SMS and allows you to compose new ones, also. The actual messages are stored in the same fashion and place as they are before this app is installed, and the original SMS app is still present and useable.
Positives:
1. It's a free bonus if you love the app for the main contact managing feature, and plan on keeping it around regardless of it's sms uses.
2. It works.
3. On-screen text entry methods do not cover up what you're trying to write.
Negatives:
1. I don't think it does MMS
2. It doesn't seem to play well with the Palm threaded app. I have the palm app installed on my hermes and with PocketCM running, if I compose a message in PocketCM and send it, it'll show up under pocketCM, but the palm app doesn't pick up on it. So Palm doesn't show it. Then when I get a response, PocketCM gets the new message notification and does it's thing, bringing that contact to the top of the contact list and displaying a message, but the palm app intercepts the actual message, so there's nothing displayed in PocketCM and it takes a soft reset to make it realize that there's not a new message waiting for you to read it (after you read it with the palm app.)
My question:
If I abandon the palm app and opt for using PocketCM, how can I back up my messages other than with some program like Jeyo mobile extender? In other words, where are the messages actually stored? It irks me to no end to have to use a whole separate program to back up SMS messages, when it's so easy to do with the palm app. I want to be able to simply manually copy a file to my storage card periodically, as I do with PalmMsgV001.
I use the built in deal and PocketCM. When I want to back up my SMS convos, I just use PIM backup. Actually, I use PIM backup about once a month to make sure I have a working backup of all my info.
maxh said:
Negatives:
2. It doesn't seem to play well with the Palm threaded app. I have the palm app installed on my hermes and with PocketCM running, if I compose a message in PocketCM and send it, it'll show up under pocketCM, but the palm app doesn't pick up on it. So Palm doesn't show it. Then when I get a response, PocketCM gets the new message notification and does it's thing, bringing that contact to the top of the contact list and displaying a message, but the palm app intercepts the actual message, so there's nothing displayed in PocketCM and it takes a soft reset to make it realize that there's not a new message waiting for you to read it (after you read it with the palm app.)
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If you're trying to decide between the two, and you settle on pocketcm, there's no need to keep the palm app installed, so the #2 negative point won't really matter.
w/o MMS !!!!
how can we compare if the MMS doesn't included!!
another sms threader
http://handheld.softpedia.com/get/SMS/SMS-Threader-22509.shtml
Looks promising!
True. I was hoping to keep the palm app installed, though, and have them work well together so that I'd still have all my messages stored in the one PalmMsgV001 file and I'd be able to use either.
Joecd04475 said:
If you're trying to decide between the two, and you settle on pocketcm, there's no need to keep the palm app installed, so the #2 negative point won't really matter.
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I don't think Jeyo Mobile Extender works with the Palm app either, does it? (unless support was added in a more recent version)
The Palm app is the odd one out in that it doesn't use the standard SMS messaging file.
pocket cm is great but with latest relese has isues with the sms so it will hav to be palm for now
I'm using the palm right now. I just wish it looked cool like the iPhone...hah. The PocketCM one looks better, but I don't like the way you have to get to it...
I am shocked with pocket cm choices
Tried all sms app
Palm sms
Pocket cm
O2 sms plus
Txt man
SMS threader
I am sms freak, i have been trying all sort of sms programs.
Palm messaging ,nothing beats palm sms, for pure stability. its very simple and it does do what its suppose to do, and very user friendly. there is a wm6 version.
Pocket cm, i dont know why has this developer made this under developed sms feature in a difficult to use contact manager anyway, it very cool looking contact app, but tell me honestly, how many of u can really scroll to the right contact easily, compared to a dial pad input, hahaha. plus it doesnt even show the sms popup properly, i got fed up of it, it doesnt even have any option to customize.
Txt man, is very simple, but then it doesnt replace ur original sms app.hasnt been able to beat palm sms. the fonts are too big. but its still better then Pocket cm.
SMS threader, this could have given competition to palm version, but it some times gives error, to quit app(only sometimes). it has an email mesg function.
O2 sms plus, If we get the wm6 version things can change dramatically for all the sms app, this has the gr8 feature of scheduling an sms, and the receiving and sending vcard, which is not present in any sms app till now, we dont even have a vcard app for wm6. the wm5 version does install and run, but it doesnt thread,it can however receive vcard and send one too, it conflicts with palm mesg, and wont display ur incoming sms at all. it gives u an option to close the running inbox i.e inbuilt one. but still there is no guarantee that it will work everytime.
I hope some talented genius will extract a wm6 version of o2 smsplus from new xdas and let us test it out.
Result, palm mesg is the best for now
Thanks for reading, hope it help
It's not really fair to compare at this stage. I personally use PocketCM as it works very well for contacts and SMS and it can be customised and skinned quite extensively. However you have to remember that this is STILL a beta application and is improving all of the time through suggestions from users.
I'm currently using PocketCM.
I like Pocketcm for now, but would love palm threader if the virtual keyboard wouldn't cover wut you are typing.
pocketcm is a good program. Just tried it and I love it.
LuXx said:
http://handheld.softpedia.com/get/SMS/SMS-Threader-22509.shtml
Looks promising!
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I used this program for a while, until I came across the Palm SMS Threader. i had to stop using it because the app started to really lag if a long chat log was kept on my phone. Load time got longer and longer and the app would miss letters that I typed about the same time.
I like Pocket CM's interface, but would rather have it disable sms's in outlook. The Palm SMS Threader is awesome, but for some reason messages get stuck in the outbox and keep sending. I had to uninstall it because people were complaining too much... has that happend to anyone?
For me, PocketCM for sure.
I like the contact manager interface (very very cool) and it access sms data from same location, no need to worry abt converting again and again sms backup or lose them if u are not going to use it in the future.
am i on crack for not using pocketcm? it sucks for text messages..palm threader sms beats it in every category..and arent we in a hermes forum? why would u be using a virtual keyboard anyways?? and with pocketcm i cant even send a MMS which I do *alot*...heh
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am i on crack for not using pocketcm? it sucks for text messages..palm threader sms beats it in every category..and arent we in a hermes forum? why would u be using a virtual keyboard anyways?? and with pocketcm i cant even send a MMS which I do *alot*...heh
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The reality is if we could not use both PocketCM and Palm thread app. on the same PPC phone, I would select PocketCM, since it 's contact manager interface. Very convenient when u wanna call someone , need not to use stylus anymore. (so the thread sms function is a bonus)
Hm.. I installed the Palm SMS threader, and it works great, but now I don't get any sound when I get a new text message.. ?
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Hi, i have a simple chat style sms application i am using on my T-Mobile SDA and i would like to port it to T-Mobile DASH. What should be the Form size so that it would fit the DASH screen?
The screen on a Dash is 320x240 pixels large, and after the browser steals viewing space the user gets about 300x220ish or so in usable space. If you need to do specific testing simply PM me and I would be more than willing to help out and give screen shots on how things look. If you wish to work independently you might want to look into the Microsoft emulators which have been made by Microsoft so people can emulate smart phone devices for testing programs and sites for this exact purpose.
thanks for the quick reply I will try to create blank form and PM you ASAP. I have just bought my excalibur online and havent received it yet so i cant test it on an actual unit.
Is this app a 'replacement' for the messaging account in outlook? Or will the messages continue to go to the existing inbox. Also, is MMS supported? I have waited so long for an app as good as the Palm Messaging beta, created specifically for a smartphone.
Orientation Aware Control
Hey oldsap,
I'm a mobile developer by trade and if you're looking for a flexible way to handle resolutions etc to make you're app a little more portable, take a look at the Orientation Aware Control that microsoft's patterns and practices group created:
http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa480471.aspx
It can be downloaded from codeplex. Basically, you create a single form and it uses a resource file to store settings for various resolutions (control layout etc). No more need to make multiple copies of a form for each resolution you want to support. Good luck, hope that helps!
- Brian
curtislanham said:
Is this app a 'replacement' for the messaging account in outlook? Or will the messages continue to go to the existing inbox. Also, is MMS supported? I have waited so long for an app as good as the Palm Messaging beta, created specifically for a smartphone.
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for the time being, ive created this to intercept all incoming sms so that they wont go to the inbox. But i can re-code it so that when a new sms arrives:
1. sms wont go to the existing inbox
2. sms will go to both the application AND inbox
it's not a perfect chat style application but it works well for me.
im still waiting for my DASH to arrive (ordered it from ebay) When i have ported it to DASH, ill post it here
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Hey oldsap,
I'm a mobile developer by trade and if you're looking for a flexible way to handle resolutions etc to make you're app a little more portable, take a look at the Orientation Aware Control that microsoft's patterns and practices group created:
http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa480471.aspx
It can be downloaded from codeplex. Basically, you create a single form and it uses a resource file to store settings for various resolutions (control layout etc). No more need to make multiple copies of a form for each resolution you want to support. Good luck, hope that helps!
- Brian
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Thanks for the tip sir. I'll read about this. Im just a newbie programmer and can only create very very simple applications
I would have to say that a threaded SMS app is not simple!
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I would have to say that a threaded SMS app is not simple!
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i refer to my application as "simple" compared to PALM's threaded sms because it only uses Textbox instead of XML. It doesnt use colored fonts to distinguish sent and received sms. But it does have other features like save chat window, group sending, sms sent counter, sms filtering, etc
Hello all,
I was wondering if there is an application to do this...
When I get sms messages, they are filed as individual massages, ie: not organized...
What I would like it to have them files under the sender.
Does this make sense? Is there a better way to store sms messages?
Not anything that you are asking for.. but you can try the SMS threader, which will make your SMS looks like IM chat screen (i.e. message per person). I think there is a IM SMS currently being develope. Do a search.
Yes there is. PocketCM - what is an iPhone like contact manager for wm - can do that. You can chose a view in the software when you can see all your contacts with messages. And the msgs are being displayed like chat "bubbles".
And i think you can answer the msgs too from the software. Pretty cool, check it out at pocketcm.com
I use Palm Threaded sms for that, I think is the better for that purpose.
And SMS Scheduler is freeware! I wonder why people don't use it more. Is a must for me. (I contacted the author and is aware of the date settings problem, he will make an update to fix it as soon as he got time)
look this: http://rjv-sms-scheduler.softonic.com/pocketpc
I started this thread because since 6.1 one came out and sms is threaded. I have wanted to have mms/sms combined and both be threaded together like what I had with the palm messaging app.
I guess its just personal preference I dunno but I want to have my entire conversations whether they be pics etc to all be together. I have searched for awhile to find a arcsoft that works.
Is anyone else interested in this?
I too would love to have sms/mms all threaded together. It would sorta make messaging a bit more seemless. what version of arcsoft will do this?
personaly i would like to see the results of a poll done on this question...
your preferance:
threaded sms
threaded sms/mms (combined)
non threaded (but combined sms/mms)
non threaded (seperate sms/mms folders)
Yes plz
I think it is so much better to have them together.
Would love to see it it is cheaper in South Africa to send long MMS text than it is to send long text(SMS) messages.
It has been one of my favourite things so far when test the new WM 6.1 ROMS
It seems I finally may have found one that works. I haven't had a lot of time to test it but it appears to send and receive MMS fine. I probably should start another topic. I can't get the voice message part of it to work I'm not sure what app I need to make that work but it looks cool.
Makes no sense having them separate.
I'm getting my ass kicked here at work so its taking me awhile to get things going but so far today I have sent and received at least 10 MMS pics etc and they all have went through fine and are threaded..
i have a big sms to send weekly. like a double and sometimes triple one (300/400 char..)
to 80/100 persons.
On my old iphone 3G it was possible (though i couldnt do group) on my old nokia N95 it was perfect (group ) and now here its impossible , a lot of errors
i can do groupe with google contact but when i send them, (i tried stock sms app, handset, chomp...) i have an error (com.android or com.P1.chomsms...you are currently sending a lot of sms, select or to go on or cancel to stop) and half of the sms dont leave my cellphone
this sux...seriously
help?
thx
totorip said:
i have a big sms to send weekly. like a double and sometimes triple one (300/400 char..)
to 80/100 persons.
On my old iphone 3G it was possible (though i couldnt do group) on my old nokia N95 it was perfect (group ) and now here its impossible , a lot of errors
i can do groupe with google contact but when i send them, (i tried stock sms app, handset, chomp...) i have an error (com.android or com.P1.chomsms...you are currently sending a lot of sms, select or to go on or cancel to stop) and half of the sms dont leave my cellphone
this sux...seriously
help?
thx
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It's right there in front of you! "SMS Groupifier" -- sheesh! (no, sorry, just kidding, no offense... I sympathize whenever functionality you are used to on one platform is reduced when migrating to another... especially one competing to outdo the other. I am sure you have searched AndroLib.com -- but if not, maybe a thin thin chance there is something else there.
i tried groupsms too
same crap
very annoying....cant believe i cant send my sms on this little computer cellphone
any help or idea?
Apparently there is an app called Text Easy also Chomp allows you to send to google groups. Discussed at Android Community
http://androidcommunity.com/forums/f41/can-you-send-a-group-text-message-3509/
hi folks,
sort of difference question but related to SMS .. i use cabbage lite to route sms via my free web texts.. its fine but the interface isnt as nice as the main phones SMS UI.. is there anyway to get the main SMS UI in something like cabbage?
mojavaid36 said:
Apparently there is an app called Text Easy also Chomp allows you to send to google groups. Discussed at Android Community
http://androidcommunity.com/forums/f41/can-you-send-a-group-text-message-3509/
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i tried handsetsms & chomp, both bug with big text group msg
Hello Guys,
I just got a HTC Desire and I really like this cell phone.
But I have a problem with my SMSes.
Before, I got a HTC Diamond and I had allot of text messages on it.
So, I found a sollution to backup my SMSes from my Diamond to my new Desire.
What I did: I downloaded SMS Exporter 0.5 and made a XML file. I opened this XML file with my Desire.
Everything worked, I got my SMSes back.
But some SMSes (from the same person/number) are separeted from eachother. Sometimes I got 3 different conversations, but they all are from the same number.
So, my question is: can I join them togheter and edit my inbox?
Besides that, I got problems if I push the send button, it doesn't response (in the conversation screen). The only thing what works is to set up a new sms in a different windows.
I only have this problem with contacts who are "backupped". So, with new contacts everything works.
I really want a sollution for this
Thanks in advance,
Frank
The Netherlands
it sounds like the backup file is either not compatible or is corrupted.
i'd recommend deleting the sms from your desire and use a different program to backup your smses to your desire
This is very much possible, but the right apps do not exist at the moment.
I (actually my better half too) have successfully transfered my 11600 SMS messages (almost 3mb uncompressed) from several generations of WinMo phones (thanks to PIM Backup!) to my Desire using SMS Exporter v0.5 and SMS Backup & Restore. However, the XML file produced by SMS Exporter is not identical to the ones SMS Backup likes to "eat", so they require considerable editing (search and replace-mania) and some knowledge of what means what in the files.
Now, there are not many programs that can export SMS as .xml for WinMo (at least that I've found), but there are loads that can backup/restore XMLs for Android. Unfortunately none have the precise same XML setup as SMS Exporter so simply importing a SMS Exporter file will likely yield errors and issues.
I wish some code wiz would have a look at this and make a working solution, it should be pretty easy, even simply some kind of script could be run on a computer, to convert a SMS Exporter xml to something readable by one of the several capable Android apps.
Mac
Hi! Use sprite transfer. It's totally free and very efficient. I used it to transfer all PIM data and bookmarks from my HD2 to my Desire. Seems to work fine to transfer from Symbian, Blackberry and WinMo to Android. ;-)
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Thanks for the tip about Sprite Backup, thought it cost money, but things must have changed since I last used it years and years ago. If it works, we're golden (too late for me though)
I'm sorry, it's not Sprite Transfer as I wrote, but Sprite Migrate. It's totally free and available there:
WorldWideWeb.spritesoftware.com/Products/Migrate/Migrate-Your-Data-Now/How-To-Transfer
Replace WorldWideWeb by " www "
May help others...
Vulku said:
I'm sorry, it's not Sprite Transfer as I wrote, but Sprite Migrate. It's totally free and available there:
WorldWideWeb.spritesoftware.com/Products/Migrate/Migrate-Your-Data-Now/How-To-Transfer
Replace WorldWideWeb by " www "
May help others...
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thanks will be getting my desire today and i have been wondering how i will transfer all my info
i have over 17000 sms and about 740 contacts
tori007 said:
thanks will be getting my desire today and i have been wondering how i will transfer all my info
i have over 17000 sms and about 740 contacts
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Be prepared for it to start hiccuping when you try to browse that many messages. I've probably sent and received about 6-7000 with one of my mates over the years (guessing 1,5-2mb worth of text), when I enter that thread from the message app the device needs to think for a few seconds Need something like "hide (not delete) older messages", but I haven't found a setting or app that can do that. Checked out Handcent SMS, it's faster browsing messages and hides older messages, only problem is, when clicking "show older", it only shows sent, not received. Sort of takes the point out of threaded SMS.
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elbatross said:
Hello Guys,
I just got a HTC Desire and I really like this cell phone.
But I have a problem with my SMSes.
Before, I got a HTC Diamond and I had allot of text messages on it.
So, I found a sollution to backup my SMSes from my Diamond to my new Desire.
What I did: I downloaded SMS Exporter 0.5 and made a XML file. I opened this XML file with my Desire.
Everything worked, I got my SMSes back.
But some SMSes (from the same person/number) are separeted from eachother. Sometimes I got 3 different conversations, but they all are from the same number.
So, my question is: can I join them togheter and edit my inbox?
Besides that, I got problems if I push the send button, it doesn't response (in the conversation screen). The only thing what works is to set up a new sms in a different windows.
I only have this problem with contacts who are "backupped". So, with new contacts everything works.
I really want a sollution for this
Thanks in advance,
Frank
The Netherlands
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I used "SMS Migrator" (http://a.baole.org/home/sms-migrator)
Can I just ask why you want to keep all these messages? Surely all of them can't be that important! I get it if its a pretty girl, or a message that has some personal meaning, but surely you can't re read all of them!
Why don't you just create an website from the xml and bookmark the url? You could have a link for each contact then. In fact if someone wants to tell me what each xml category contains and its heading, ill knock u up something searchable in php.
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