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WM6 dropping USB when put in sleep mode

I have upgraded to WM6 using the AT&T official release. WM5 used to maintain my ActiveSync connection when I turned the screen off (by momentarily depressing the power button - sleep mode). Now WM6 drops the USB connection. I performed a hard reset - no change. I reinstalled WM6 - no change.
It appears that for applications, the 'sleep mode' is acting more like a power-down mode (just doesn't reboot when you power up again).
>>>Follow-up - I tested the bluetooth connectivity and it appears to stay up during sleep mode. So it looks like just USB is affected when going to sleep.
>>>Follow-up #2 - Media Player continues to play (and the speaker is active) when in sleep.

This is normal behavior. Have you experienced otherwise in the past?

Probably normal as when its plugged in via usb its powered and doesn't need to go into sleep mode.

Did you guys not even read his original post at all? He had it working with WM5 and now it's not. Which would mean it is NOT normal. Not to mention you can still use sleep mode while having it plugged into a USB port so I don't know why the last poster would say it doesn't need sleep mode. Of course it doesn't need sleep mode. It's being charged. That doesnt mean he wouldnt still want the screen to turn off while it's plugged in. I charge my phone right next to my bed if I had that damn bright screen on while I tried to sleep I'd go crazy. Point being neither of those posts were worth a damn. sheesh.
Edit: For the record mine disconnects activesync when in sleep mode as well. I don't remember if it did so in WM5 or not but I'm pretty sure it did cause I recall being a bit surprised when it disconnected when I hit the power button. Now we just need some real help with real answers.

surrept said:
Point being neither of those posts were worth a damn. sheesh.
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And your post really helped to solve this "problem", didn't it.
I'm sure he just didn't want a program to turn his screen off, as anybody with half a brain could find a freeware cab to do that. How about searching google for screen off pocket pc freeware

Call down surret... calm down. No need to take it so personal.
Just because it works in WM5 does not mean it will act the same in WM6. I was not giving a definite answer about sleep mode but maybe an idea as to why.
When I plug my phone into the wall it still charges fine in sleep mode. When I plug my phone into my computer it charges in sleep mode but the usb does not stay connected. I was suggesting that since sleep mode is to save the battery life that when your connected the battery is not being used and hence not really required. Also in sleep mode in order to save battery it needs to turn off as much as possible. It looks like the USB connection is one of them.
There are other options like a screen toggle as per the post above and there is also a setting that you can use to turn off the backlite when the device is plugged in and not put it into sleep mode. I think thats in the power saver settings somewhere.
I do not know of a registry hack or anything to make it work the way you want but I am letting you know that it seems like thats the way it works on WM6.

Thanks to all who responded. I'm relieved to learn that this is normal for WM6.
Since WM5 allowed me to sleep while charging/syncing and WM6 didn't, I was afraid that my 8525 was developing problems.
I will simply have to change my behavior to accomodate WM6. After all, if all WM6 did was add support for SDHC cards, it would justify the inconvienence.

One thing to note too that I noticed...
Even though its in sleep mode and not connected (even though its plugged in) I notice my phone still wakes up and does a sync every now and then. Might want to check that. Maybe it still sync's ona timed interval but doesn't stay connected.

Knockz said:
One thing to note too that I noticed...
Even though its in sleep mode and not connected (even though its plugged in) I notice my phone still wakes up and does a sync every now and then. Might want to check that. Maybe it still sync's ona timed interval but doesn't stay connected.
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That was one of the annoying things - when put to sleep when it is in the cradle, the 8525 would wake up after a short period, reconnect, and resync.
So even when you put it to sleep it wouldn't stay asleep (if connected to a powered on PC). If the PC is powered off the 8525 stays asleep until you manually wake it up or a event occurs (incomming call, reminder, scheduled backup, etc).

Keep ON wireless in standby mode

Do you know if it's possible avoid turn-off wireless in stand-by???
I'd like to use VoIP with my Artemis (with hand-free and wireless connection), but it's impossible becouse after 1 minute (my pda is set to turn-off after 1 minute) the phone goes in stand-by mode and plugs off the wireless antenna.
Can I set "Always on" to wireless connection???

as yet i failed to accomplish this. all i can do so far is turn off the monitor to save a bit power. not the same as standby mode at all though.

I've got this tweak from somewhere, I'm not sure (maybe wiki page):
"AUTO DISCONNECT WHEN GPRS IDLE
you can edit the registry key ...
HKey_Local_Machine/Comm/ConnMgr/Planner/Settings/CacheTime
Change from 600 to 60
it will disconnect after connection is idle for 60 seconds ...
There's also another key needed to be set. Otherwise, my PDA still has always on 3G data connection.
HKey_Local_Machine/Comm/ConnMgr/Planner/Settings/SuspendResume
Change from ~GPRS! - Always on
to GPRS_bye_if_device_off - switch off after timeout"
It may help if you make the changes THE OTHER WAY ROUND. For you the desired value in 'HKey_Local_Machine/Comm/ConnMgr/Planner/Settings/SuspendResume' is '~GPRS!' And the cache time value should be set to '0' (as infinite), if it doesn't work, set to a high value (i.e. 3600 - it means 1 hour).
I'm not sure it helps but it's worth to give it a try...

i guess he was talking about WLAN connection, not gprs or 3G. however, i might be wrong.

soardiac said:
i guess he was talking about WLAN connection, not gprs or 3G. however, i might be wrong.
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You are right, sorry. I've just misunderstood the problem, paying not enough attention to the first post...

So the only way is disable auto sandby and swith-off screen?
I thought a way to solve this situation could be keeping active OS during VoIP connection, just to avoid standby...

Its not enabled for a very good reason, it consumes so much power your device would last just a few hours before running out of power.

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Its not enabled for a very good reason, it consumes so much power your device would last just a few hours before running out of power.
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that is true. however, they could still give us the option
i think the real "problem" is that WLAN needs the OS running to work. the GSM unit is working differently.

Using S2U is a solution for me
Using S2U2 is the only solution for me.

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Using S2U2 is the only solution for me.
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It seems to be what I want, an application that avoid standby mode but preserve battery (setting lcd off, various device option off...)
I'll try it!
Thanks

Skype
I am not sure if this is still relevant, but in skype i think to have seen an option that says: "disable stand by mode when connected to Wlan" or something like that...
however of course the "batteryproblem" will still be there...
Please post your experiences with S2U2 once made, thanks!

Don't mean to "thread jack" but how can I tell the difference between the screen just being off and the phone being in standby mode?
I'm asking because I'm having a problem with my phone when I turn on Flight mode. Usually I turn on flight mode at night or in a meeting but I'm finding that the battery is still draining (rather quickly too) when I'm in flight mode and the device is off all night. If I'm at 40% batt level at 11:00pm and put the phone in Flight mode, by the morning about 6:30am, the battery is down to like 5%! And there are no programs running at all, screen is off, device is untouched all night. So when I saw this thread, I started to wonder if the phone was in really in standby or if the screen was just off.

Is S2U2 the option to keep the WLAN enabled when in standby mode?
I know i can disable going in to standby but would be nice if it can be done without this.
The power drain is most peoples concern but if i'm at work i have it plugged into the power anyway but would like to use one of the WLAN's here that isn't being monitored

Wifi Setting switching itself off?

Hey,
I've noticed my wifi keeps getting set to "off" seemingly at random. It works fine when it's on, however a few times a day, I'd find that the wifi switched itself off (even while in range of a working wifi signal, say even if left at home on a table all day) and I'd have to reenable it via the communications settings screen.
It's somewhat annoying and chews up my mobile internet when I don't noticed wifi's off.
Anyone else have a fix/noticed this?
Thanks !

It usually goes off when the device enters standby. Have a look into this thread for how to keep it on in standby mode. Beware that this might eat your battery http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=524490

Kork said:
It usually goes off when the device enters standby. Have a look into this thread for how to keep it on in standby mode. Beware that this might eat your battery http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=524490
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Ah I read that but I think you misunderstand what I meant, I know it goes off during standby, however when it comes out of standby, WiFi should automatically renable itself, which it does - sometimes.
I believe I figured out what the problem is, whenever I plug the TP2 into my PC, it uses my PC's net connection(?) and disables WiFi. When I remove the phone form the PC, it doesnt restart Wifi.
Any fix on that?

Tilt2 wifi issue after the phone sleeps

I turn on wifi and it connects fine, I do whatever...I press the power button to put the phone to sleep but I didn't disable the wifi before doing this.
I turn the phone back on, but the phone doesn't connect to the wifi network. It waits for me to do some action that needs wifi. Anyone have this happening? I've had a few occasions when wifi doesn't even attempt to connect as well, but not very often.
I'm running the stock ATT rom for now. This type of operation never happened with my fuze with a stock rom.
I know there is a hack to enable wifi even when the phone sleeps, and I have not tried that yet. A question about that..does the wifi stay connected even when the phone is in sleep mode which would cause the battery to drain faster?
I'm sure I'll be flashing a rom at some point but would like to get past my 30 day window for returns before doing so.
Thanks again..

Wifi turning off itself?!

Hey guys,
need some help with my htc desire. Just bhought it couple of days back. Everything worked good, until today, as wifi turned itself off after 10-15 min on standby and automatically connects to 3G instead. Even if i turn on the wifi, it will say that the wifi is on, but its not actually connected I have to restart the phone for it to connect with wifi again. And the same thing goes over and over again. Has this happened to anyone?
Please help! :S
I have the orignal firmware, not rooted.

Sort of happening to me too, but after the phone is asleep for long periods, like overnight.
For the past few days, I leave it with WiFi on when I go to sleep, I wake up and WiFi was off. I switch it back on and the phone doesn't seem to use wifi, or it does but just hangs.
Only started happening after the last hard reset, was working fine before that.
I do have the sleep after 15mins setting on, but obviously that shouldnt switch off the wifi, just let it sleeps and should reconnect after waking up.
Waiting for a exchange for another phone due to another issue, but will keep an eye on this, might be the Setting Profile app I've installed that's causing the issue.

My wifi switched off by itself after going standby for sometime.
After I wake up the phone, it will reconnect to the wifi. Not sure if there's app to prevent the wifi from going into standby though.

myth1001 said:
My wifi switched off by itself after going standby for sometime.
After I wake up the phone, it will reconnect to the wifi. Not sure if there's app to prevent the wifi from going into standby though.
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I have been using the phone for 6 days now, before this my phone could be on wifi all night, and when turned on in the morning the wifi will still be connected. Its strange this should happen now. I installed juicedefender yesterday and than uninstalled it again after trying it..might this has affected my wifi settings.

That's weird. I did installed Juice Defender and uninstalled it as well. Not sure if that's the cause. will do some search and see what I can find out.

FOUND!
We can actually control the Wifi Sleep policy by going to Settings> Wireless & Networks> Wifi Settings> Menu >Advanced> Wifi sleep policy!
Change it to never and it should work as before.

myth1001 said:
FOUND!
We can actually control the Wifi Sleep policy by going to Settings> Wireless & Networks> Wifi Settings> Menu >Advanced> Wifi sleep policy!
Change it to never and it should work as before.
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Yes, I know about that setting, but once you wake up the phone, it should wake the wifi and it should reconnect. This is not happening, and in some cases it does switch back on and connects, but doesn't get onto the internet. Seems the phone is still trying to use the cellular network.
Leave it on all the time eats up battery, so rather have it on sleep after 15mins

myth1001 said:
FOUND!
We can actually control the Wifi Sleep policy by going to Settings> Wireless & Networks> Wifi Settings> Menu >Advanced> Wifi sleep policy!
Change it to never and it should work as before.
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wow..ur fast..thanks! will try out this..and see until tomorrow if my phone is still shifting from 3g and wifi all the time
edit: yup..this was the reason. So now my wifi is connected 24/7 very happy for this as when it switched off before it started to use my 3G..i dont have unlimited plan so why pay for addional when u can use wifi at home