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GSM Frequeny

I have a Orange SIM card which I got in Israel, I am now in Canada and that SIM works fine on my friends Nokia 6600, but when I try to use it with my XDA IIs I can't find any networks or anything. I am guessing its the GSM frequecy although the phone supports all of them. Does anyone have any idea what I need to do to get the SIM to work here? Does anyone know how to manually select a GSM frequency?
XDA IIs
ROM Version: 1.40.00 WWE
Radio Version: 1.15.00
Protocol Version: 1337.45

Hello psytech,
I believe you're roaming. Sometimes, you really cannot just plug your sim card then voila its working. If you are roaming, most of the time you really have to manually select the network.
anyway, i'm currently using windows mobile 2005, and no longer using windows mobile 2003 SE. i hope i could still help you or atleast you can see the pattern on how to do it.
here what you do:
1. click on the signal strength icon (the icon located on the upper right most portion of your screen just beside the speaker icon)
2. a dialogue box will appear with a clickable 'settings' button (located on lower left part of the dialogue box.), click the 'settings'
3. you will then see 3 tabs on the bottom part of the screen, 'phone', 'services', 'network'. click on 'network'.
4. you should find something like 'find network' button there, then just but before you click on it, choose 'manual' for network selection.
the rest is self explanatory, i hope i was able to help you. cheers!

You say your orange sim works fine on your friends nokia but does not work in your IIs.
Is it possible that your IIS device is sim locked as in will only work on the O2 network in the country you got it from.
If so unlock it via wiki (link in sig)

not it
I forgot to mention that the SIM worked fine in Isreal, my original SIM is orange (I do have an account with) I just can't get support cause I didn't buy the phone from them (capitalists).
About the network search. Thats what I've been doing for the last couple of days but I can not find ANY networks at all. which is what leads me to believe that its a GSM frequency problem.

What happens if you put your friends sim in your phone
GSM in Canada is generally 1900 http://www.gsmworld.com/roaming/gsminfo/cou_ca.shtml

doesn't work either
My friend's SIM doesn't work on my phone either. If canada is 1900, how can I make sure that my phone is currently using 1900. (I know it supports it, but how do I actually see that its actually scanning with it?)

What happens if you go to Settings->Phone->Network and then change Network Selection to Manual.
You should then get a list of networks. This will list all networks even if you cannot connect to them.
[edit] This has already be suggested earlier in the thread
If you do get some networks then the only reason that I can think of that you are not connecting is that under Prefered Networks you have a network selected that your carrier does not have a roaming agreement with.
Check your provider's website to see who they have agreements with.

no networks
My provider (Orange) has agreements with Rodgers, but my problem is that I am not listing ANY networks, I tried manual and even added the Rodgers network to my favorite networks, but when I try to search for networks I can't find any, I just get a blank window. This is very odd to me and I've never heard of anyone with that problem.
Like I've mentioned before, I updated my windows to TuMa 1.4 and my radio to 1.1.15. If there's anything else I need to do or anything I may not have done when I updated my network please tell me.
btw when I installed that TuMa windows I change my ID thingy to Tmobile.

Problem solved
Attenttion everyone:
It has come to my attention that there is a problem in the Band Selection CAB when it comes to certian cellular providers.
The problem so far appears on a Cellular One network that only supports 850Mhz. When the North American Option is choosen in the Band tab, the phone can not find a network to register on. I'm not quite sure why this happens yet, but there is a solution to fix.
http://relaysgoldens.com/sx66/ext_roms/BandSelect-fix.CAB
By installing this CAB, it provides a fourth option on the band tab, "Reset Value to Zero".
By selecting this option, the phone will be reset to it's default state, and will work normally.
I've trapped this as a bug in the 1.40.124 extrom and will be working to figure this out.
Note: the band selection setting is persistant, and will not be reset even if you downgrade the ROMs on the phone. If you are experiencing this problem, the ONLY way to reset the value is to use the CAB above.
-Chris
P.S. I've also updated the 1.40.124 RAR file on the website to include the updated bandselect CAB.
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I found that at http://pdaphonehome.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=53121 and it worked.

How to Turn OFF 3G & only have Edge?

Whenever I travel abroad and turn off my connection, my battery lasts for 48 hours without any problems vs 8 in the UK.
I use push e-mail, so I really do not need the 3G speed, they just drop in fine.
I googled all over the web I've not been able to find a auto turn off program yet?
I am on ROM Black Magic
Thx

I use Bandswitch on both my 8525s..
do a search and you will find the file.
Gary

Hi,
"Schaps 12 buttons with 3G band switch button" Works fine for most ppls.
Before you can install it you should study his thread a little bit, you may need too kill a certain registry string berfore.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=310650
pronor

this wil do the trick
Even better, you can do this without third party tools.
Just go to your phone options.
Select the tab "band" and switch the network type from "auto" to "gsm".
Did this help you?
-P-

pimvis said:
Even better, you can do this without third party tools.
Just go to your phone options.
Select the tab "band" and switch the network type from "auto" to "gsm".
Did this help you?
-P-
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make sure you kill your data connection before hitting ok to make the change..

That's exactly what I do. Start-Settings-Phone-Band-GSM.

what do you gain with just edge vs 3g?

PostDeals said:
what do you gain with just edge vs 3g?
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My reason ist to save battery consumption

edge vs 3G
The main reasone i upgraded from the 8125 to the 8525 is so that while my phone was getting push updates from my exchange server callers would goto my voicemail without any warning. This is a problem with Edge voice or data not both...

OK, Scnapps does work w/ BlackMagic Roms
So I'll use the manual switch, it sounds fine
Thanks for the help, this 3G has been a total waste of time for me.
the only issue, I think all my GSM types have 3G:
GSM (900+1800) +UMTS2100
OR
GSM (1900+850)+ UMTS (1900+850)
OR
gsm (900+1800) +UMTS850
OR
GSM gsm (900+1800) +UMTS850+2100
Nothing without UMTS?

3G on 8525 running DOPOD official

Is there any trick to make 3G work on the dopod official rom on the AT&T network? I'm in southern california and can not get my phone to connect at 3G at all, even in the center of an area that's covered in dark blue (indicating 3g service availability) on AT&T's 3g coverage map page. I've tried forcing the band to UMTS and I just get no service. Is there some registry tweak or hack I need to do to make it work? I'm on the AT&T $19.95 unlimited media max plan. I get EDGE pretty much everywhere I go but no 3G. HELP

I was running the official Dopod release on my 8525 and UMTS/HSDPA was working fine for me, just as it has with all the other unofficial WM6 releases.

Did it ever work before? or are you just going off Cingulars Coverage Maps?

Try checking you connection settings
http://www.wireless.att.com/support/deviceConfig.do?content=KB71396.html

New phone
To be honest I just got this phone last week and I really havent had a chance to fully try it out, I'm coming from an 8125. I am pretty much going based on coverage maps which AT&T say they cover almost all of southern orange county. I work all over orange county and have yet to see any 3g service? As long as there is nothing special to change or configure on the phone I geuss maybe I'm just not in the right service area. Is there any other troubleshooting I can try? Some sort of debug mode? I did reset and reconfigure all my connection settings per the above reply, same issue.
Thanks

Did you look in the Wiki? Try this....
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_Registry
Enable/Disable GSM/UMTS Band Selection
Cingular kindly disables anything useful about the network on the 8525. To enable the Band Selection Tab on your Phone settings page, set the following:
[\HKLM\Software\OEM\PhoneSetting\]
"ShowUMTSBandPage"=dword:00000001
Get your phone to display an H when HSDPA is being used
HKLM\SOFTWARE\OEM\RIL and set EnableHSDPAIcon to 1

Calls possible with HSDPA Data Transfer?

Hi all
I experienced some problems since I upgraded to WM 6 (official Tytn Europe Version)
If there is a active Datatransfer in HSDPA Mode, i cannot make or receive a phone call. I already tried several Radio Versions (1.43/1.48/1.50), but no success. When I disable HSDPA, it works fine.
Does anybody has same issues with HSDPA?
Thanks
Marc

Vodafone issue
Hi - are you using a vodafone network? I know that there are issues on the network that are preventing some operators from supporting voice and data at teh same time over HSDPA....
The operators I know about are planning network upgrades or patches to solve the issues (which are not just limited to Windows Mobile devices apparently)

I can make calls -> versions below I don't think this is just a phone issue though. I think some operators can't do it.

I have the same problem as you have.
It is because of the infrastructure of my provider KPN that I have this problem. When I disable HSDPA then all works fine. So no I only use HSDPA when I want to browse on the Internet.
****ty but now I know why.........

Hi all
Thanks for the confirmation.
I also disabled HSDPA for now.
Now I will the push the guys in the network department to fix this issue......
Just got the answer from the tech guys. Operators with Ericsson UMTS/HSDPA Network Equipment are affected by this. The Operator has to rollout a software update to fix this issue.
Cheers
Marc

I am on AT&T and have never been able to do data and voice at hte same time.

I'm on At-T in Nyc and my HSDPA works just fine calls while on data and vice versa

I'm in South Florida and I'm constantly using Internet Sharing in HDSPA mode while talking on my Jawbone... (takes "jawbone of an ass" to a whole new level, ehehehe!)

Dr Puttingham said:
I'm in South Florida and I'm constantly using Internet Sharing in HDSPA mode while talking on my Jawbone... (takes "jawbone of an ass" to a whole new level, ehehehe!)
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OK, now THAT is the funniest thing I've read here! Thanks for the laugh!
I saw the jawbone at the ATT/Cingy store and wondered if I should splurge on it since I already have an H500 and an H700 from Motorola. My problem is I ride bike a lot and the wind noise makes it impossible to have a conversation with an H500. It is possible but a little difficult to talk while riding using the H700. I was wondering if you had any experience with the Jawbone under similar conditions?
Regards,
George
OOPs - That was meant to be PM, sorry folks!

The Hermes is able to do both. Phone calls and data (HSDPA\GPRS\EDGE) at the same time. Your data speed does take a hit due to bandwith.
However if you cannot is because is 99.999% the network NOT the phone. I had a Hermes long before the network here in Canada supported HSDPA. So I could only do one at the time. At the beginning of this year they finally updated it and I have been doing both at the same time with wild abandon no problem.
Check with your provider.

@gmgonzal - the Jawbone will probably be the best you can find for your enviroment. I only use it in my Toyota when driving. People can't tell that I'm on a cell phone. I had a NxZen which I liked for a while but this is better, IMO.
@agovinoveritas - indded, that's the biggest reason I upgraded to the 8525... no more missed calls when I'm using the internet (or receiving an email at the same time..)

It's the network. All operators that use Ericsson 3G equipment suffer from a bug in the Ericsson kit that prevents simultaneous data/voice. All Nokia equipment works fine. T-Mobile in the NL use Nokia and have no issues. KPN and Vodafone NL use Ericsson and have this issue. KPN are currently upgrading their Ericsson equipment to correct this issue (ETA end 2007). I do not know about Vodafone NL. It is safe to assume that in other countries these providers use the same kit so you should be fine with TMO, regardless of where you are.

Does this issue include that my telephoneconversation can be disconnected?
I had this problem with the WWE WM5 HTC rom using the Vodafone NL network. Now I have uograded to the Dopod WM6 ANZ version it's all fine...

Google Maps Mobile 2.0 - My Location

http://www.google.com/gmm/mylocation.html?hl=en
Cell tower based location - poor man's GPS
Has anyone managed to get the new "My Location" feature working on their Excalibur? I have an S621 running Rogers' WM6 on Rogers network, and it doesn't work. At the bottom of the Help/About screen, it says "myl: N/A"
Anyone had success with any other OS builds and/or networks? It's supposed to support "most Windows Mobile devices". Is it the device that's not compatible, or is the network not sending cell tower info?

Works On T-Mobile's Network Perfect
MountainDrew said:
http://www.google.com/gmm/mylocation.html?hl=en
Cell tower based location - poor man's GPS
Has anyone managed to get the new "My Location" feature working on their Excalibur? I have an S621 running Rogers' WM6 on Rogers network, and it doesn't work. At the bottom of the Help/About screen, it says "myl: N/A"
Anyone had success with any other OS builds and/or networks? It's supposed to support "most Windows Mobile devices". Is it the device that's not compatible, or is the network not sending cell tower info?
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Works Like a charm, on T-Mobile's network, it gives me my location to a "T", and got the blinking light too, poor man's GPS........!(lol)

work with dopod c720w roger wm6 rom
work very well on my dopod C720w. i use roger wm6 rom with singtel in singapore.

it works well if you've previously used it with a gps at your location. As soon as you move you'll find the accuracy goes way off.

doesn't seem to work in Ottawa Ont on the rogers network. I made a couple of calls to make sure there was a recent connect to a tower...no luck.

Worse than not working
Not only did the My location feature not work for me on my Dash running the T-mobile WM6 ROM but it crashed my Dash. I had to hard reset, and it took a few tries to get the phone to hard reset successfully.

Works fine for me on T-Mobile in the states -- thought I read initially that the current release for just for the U.S.A. ...?

Works very well in Kitchener on Rogers/Fido network. My actual location was within the blue circle.
Good way to find out where the towers are too.

I've never used GPS on my excalibur, and it works perfectly fine for me.

chaznet said:
Works fine for me on T-Mobile in the states -- thought I read initially that the current release for just for the U.S.A. ...?
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I test in Singtel mobile in Singapore and AIS in Bangkok Thailand. Both works OK.

It worked perfect for me...maybe a little too perfect. It said that it could find me within 1700 meters of my actual location, and it did.

Did not work
I have a US tmo unlocked and setup for US att network. I get "error: connecterror [183]". Nothing on google seems to tell me what this is. I can go send/receive calls, go online and receive mms (following att setup per this sites board), but it always gives this error at load. Take sim out, same error, as if the software sees no connection settings when sim inserted. Ideas?

WTF I keep getting location currently unavailable. Whether it be in NYC, Connecticut or Rochester, NY. (T-Mobile Dash)

um the problem might be that you do not have a data plan or what not... or maybe you are not near a cell tower I am guessing... trying moving around or maybe try it next time you go to the mall or shopping (somewhere further from your house).

Me too
I just tried it on my Dash running AT&T's EDGE (US). I got a location that was supposed to be accurate to 2.1 Kilometers. It was closer to a kilometer. Not quite GPS accurate, but hopefully it should be nice next time I'm trying to help a friend navigate around Philly or some other big city I don't know my way around.

SurrealNetworks App Unlock
Hey guys all you need for google map "My location" to work on your T-Mobile dash you must app unlock your device with an application called SurrealNetworks App Unlock
This is the link where you can download the application.
http://www.mobile.surrealnetworks.com/AppUnlockReg.htm
Once you install this program my location should work perfectly, because this is what I did and it been working great on my Dash...

JAmerican said:
WTF I keep getting location currently unavailable. Whether it be in NYC, Connecticut or Rochester, NY. (T-Mobile Dash)
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I had the same issue when I was on WiFi and was connected to my wireless router. Then when I turned it off and went for a drive it worked.

I honestly think this is useless unless your in a brand new city. I disabled this feature because it wasn't helpful in telling me were I was exactly. I'd rather take the 15 seconds and type the intersection in rather than the 25 seconds of looking around to see where I am according to the map.
Usually its more than 1700 meters for me. At one time it was in the wrong town.

Using a Rogers S621 w/Rogers WM6 ROM and My Location won't work.

amazing, it works !
Roger User Here - Works Perfectly Including MyLocation but it's inaccurate. it's very close to where i am but still not right - i guess you don't get everything you want lol