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Vanishing emailaccounts after install Jasjar update

Hello,
I update my MDA pro to the new imate ROM but my emailaccount keep vanishing after a softreset has anyone any clue?
Thanx

same here
but on my device it was like this also before the upgrade?
which device dou you have, and which rom you had before upgrading to the jasjar rom?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=161019#161019

dont soft reset using a stilys. Use a program to allow flush the file bufferssss

yeah, thanks but.
i know that and honestly i still have to try it. BUT:
I just want to know WHY this happens, and WHY other users with the same ROM as mine is DONT have this problem.
And, if i incidentally do a Softreset or maybe take out the battery, i lose my account again! thats not a solution for me.
Anyways thanks for your hint . apreciate that.
can you confirm my thought about the battery? or maybe its REALLY losing the accounts just after a Stylus reset?

It hapened to me time ago.. Some programs, like outlook, dont flush their databases buffers each moment. So, if you create a new account, or delete some mails or sms (this actions modify the database files managed by outlook) and then you reset your pda using the stylus, many buffer may be not empty so you loose that information. When you reset your pda using a program (it uses a API funcion that allow the buffers to be flushed to their files) all the information is saved in disk and you wouldnt hava to loose anything.....

thnx
thats was a clear explanation, thank you.
Any ideas why this happens only on some devices, even if they have the same rom?

I ve repeated the test right now. I have sent a email to my account in gmail(this account is configured in my jasjar). I ve connected using UMTS an and i ve downloaded the mail. then a i ve soft reset using stylus. When the device has booted i have launched pocket outlook and the mail wasnt there. I ve downloaded the mail again and a i ve done soft reset using a program (handy meny). When the system has booted the mail was there. Conclusion: I supose Outlook use the api fuction "CeWriteRecordProps" to update or insert a new record in the outlook database and probably Windows Mobile 2005 uses a buffer policy to reduce the access to these databases. so, if windows hasnt written this records fisically to disk then you can lose some information if you reset using stylus. When you use a program to reset, windows informs to the device drivers that "sleep" is in progress and they have to save the unsaved information so the disk driver has a chance so save all.
I hope Microsoft change this policy soon.....

so you...
...think this happens on all HTC Universals?

I think it happens in all Windows Mobile 2005 devices....

ok, i´ll let you know in the next days...
...then i´ll receive some more universals. and also one of a freind of mine, who told me that he hasn´t got this problem. i don´t know if its true, but we will see...

I don't know.I ve repeteated this test with my jasjar and my himalaya(with magneto) with same results

i can confirm...
...your description to 100% !
with a "soft"-softreset everything is fine.
and i´ve found out why other devices semmed to do NOT have the problem. Those users setted up their account, and had serveral (100+) mails ond their pop-server. Poutlook took a few minutes tu download headers and part of the messages. in this time the "buffer" was "written back" to the mail-db.
So: I think that for now, all the WM5, or at least all UNIVERSALS got this problem. Some user just don´t realize it.
Now that we (well,i) now that it is not a problem of just my device, FOR NOW i think i can live with this solution. btw, i use Pocket Plus 3 as task manager and Softresetter.
thnx dherrero.

Thanx DHerrero
After your tip I used spb pocketplus 3.0 and the softreset works wonderfully!
Thanx for the workaround hope they'll fix it soon because pocketplus makes the system very slow.[/list]

strange....
With Pocketplus my system runs fast as always, no problems at all.

Pocketplus
Probably due too a combination of software then.
I'll work it out if you say its not due too SPB Pocketplus
Thanx

you re wellcome. There are many programs to soft-reset the device "softly" and thye dont brake the system.... For example Hany Menu and much more.. :lol:

Problems with Windows Live Mail

I've been having problems with getting Windows Live Mail to sync all the time (yes, I have selected "sync when items arrive", but next time you look it has changed back to manual!).
I`ve been looking around in the registry and I think I've found where it's stored, could someone who's email is syncing correctly tell me what registry value they have at -
HKLM/Services/Windows Live/Sync/SyncType

coercri said:
I've been having problems with getting Windows Live Mail to sync all the time (yes, I have selected "sync when items arrive", but next time you look it has changed back to manual!).
I`ve been looking around in the registry and I think I've found where it's stored, could someone who's email is syncing correctly tell me what registry value they have at -
HKLM/Services/Windows Live/Sync/SyncType
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Additional to that, does Windows Live have to be running all the time to sync as items arrive?
Thanks
Rob

I`ve wondered that too, I have tried both ways, but neither seem to work.

I'm having the same problem.

Just in case you are wondering, if you click on "As items arrive," and click on "done" and they you head back to it, it will NOT stick to it. That is normal, it does not stick to it.

Synctype = 1
Thanks for posting this question. I too have just started playing around with Windows Mobile Live.
I seem to think that 'as items arrive' does not stick. Also I have had success with WM Live getting messages when it was not running on my PPC so I am guessing it does NOT have to be running which is outstanding. Also I see that it will force a data connection instantiously upon a soft reset of the PPC.
All this tells me that WM Live is dug in deep into the ROM! Now the issue I seem to have with it.
I am betting that WM Live breaks the data connection invisibily. Here is why... It seems to work OK for a bit of time. Then even through the data connection shows connected NO applications on my PPC can access the internet. They all try but no data is ever returned. A soft reset and all is normal. I notice this about once a day and usually overnight.
Now I can't totally blame WM Live for this... I can blame my carrier, the internet in general, sun spots, etc... It is just so many variables to keep a working data connection going.
I changed HTCustom to keep my connection always on, so I'll see if that helps. Well this seemed to help. I did not have WM Live running and sent messages at different times to my WM Live email and got them all suprisingly.... I did not get the attachements pushed but I believe some others have posted that as an issue...

I've given up on it, it just seems to flakey to me.

coercri said:
I've given up on it, it just seems to flakey to me.
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It worked in black 2.0, but not in any of the latest roms (black 2.5, 3.0, LVSW, etc)
Anyone know what might have changed?

Huge SMTP problem with WM 6.1

Unfortunately I narrowed this down to the WM 6.1 upgrade. I can no longer send emails.
+ T-Mobile Dash (aka Excalibur aka HTC s620)
+ RUU_Excalibur_WM61_Kavana_080408_WWE installed
(generally working wonderfully!)
+ 2 different Pop3/SMTP email accounts (my own domains, hosted by godaddy)
+ EMail settings set-up on the dash (not using My Tmobile as a gateway)
(SMTP uses authentication, no ssl and port-80)
Emails were working just fine for 2 years under WM5, 6. After I installed 6.1 ... receiving worked fine, and still does.
Sending emails would work for a few hours, then I would get a vague error message (error - something is wrong - check the settings or that the network is working)
For a few days I was able to sometimes get it to work if I toggled SSL for outgoing. But no more.
The only way I can get emails to send is to delete the email settings, and re-set it up again as new. Then after a few hours it fails again.
After hours and hours of playing and on the phone with tech support - we've determines that the settings are (and always have been) correct and that there are no network or hosting problems. And the phone is brand new.
The email sending worked fine until the 6.1 upgrade.
Any suggestions, insights, help, therapy, anything???
Thanks!
Please someone help out - I'm going nuts.

You should change your password because if you have been using unsecured smtp for 2 years it's likely someone has already stolen it. Turn on SSL and keep it on ;-)
Not sure why it would fail after a few hours though.

reconfigure your connection settings

D-ville Solja said:
reconfigure your connection settings
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Not to sound too sarcastic - but can you be a little more vague? ; ) "tweak the settings" ... hmm. OK.
After hours and hours of troubleshooting (and I'm no newbie) with the mobile provider, hosting company etc ... I think we've reset, reconfigured just about everything.
The only thing that works - temporarily - is if I delete the entire email account from the phone, and the create a new (identical) one. It will work for a few send/receive sessions, then the same sending problem will occur ... never to recover until I repeat that process.
If anyone has any specific experience with this problem (or specific suggestions) - I'd really be grateful !

lemme get everything straight first, your saying you upgraded to 6.1 correct? and now your email account wont let u send emails correct? well is your EDGE working? can u still get on the internet with no problem?

D-ville Solja said:
lemme get everything straight first, your saying you upgraded to 6.1 correct? and now your email account wont let u send emails correct? well is your EDGE working? can u still get on the internet with no problem?
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yes yes yes yes yes
After 11 hours of testing and troubleshooting over the past 2 weeks - we've definitely covered the basics.
In case you were wondering
+ the phone is turned on
+ I am pressing the buttons on the device as opposed to trying to use tele-kinetic ability (which can be inconsistent)
+ My eyes are opened and are in working order
+ I made sure I was in no tunnels, caves, canyons or steel-concrete enclosed bomb shelters
+ I verified that my network provider (T-Mobile) did not go out of business, or suddenly remove all their cell towers
+ I verified that most my 2,000 email contacts (potential recipients) have not been abducted by aliens who also deleted their email accounts.
Also
+ This is happening with 2 different email accounts.
+ The Pop3 and smtp servers are indeed working - since
a. I am able to put the settings in my PC, and another phone device (a older sprint phone that allows me to setup pop/smtp) - send/recieve emails work fine
+ Emails were working fine before I upgraded to WM 6.1
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+ EMails worked ok for the first 2-3 days then the trouble started.
+ I can only get emails to send now when I delete the account, and create a new one (with identical settings). This lasts for a few hours before it fails to send.
+ I've been on the phone troubleshooting with tmobile and my hosting company for hours on end - trying all sorts of funky settings and tests ...
They hosting company seems to have determined that the smtp request is never getting to them; tmobile verified in great detail that the network is working.
Their idea was something along the lines of "the email client part of upgrade of WM 6.1 seems to be deleting a security certificate" or something .
I dunno about that - but it is clear that something is going on with the email client. The network, and email hosting is just fine, as are the settings.
Hope some of this helps - and that someone has some ideas I can try.
Oh - and just to pre-empt some suggestions:
1. No I won't change to linux, a mac or an iphone - but thanks for the suggestion.
2. I have checked out that I have not transported into an alternate reality, where everything is pretty much the same as in this reality - except my emails don't work.
3. Yes, I am using a Dash/HTC s670 - the battery is charged, and I have powered down, taken the battery and sim card out, hopped on one foot and made sure I have no other software running (even on all my pc's) before I powered it back on.
4. Yes, I can make phone calls and do everything else
5. yes, I have an internet connection - and the proper one (GPRS - but have also tried this via the wifi connection.
6. No I am not talking on the phone or browsing the internet during the ill-fated email sending.
7. I am pretty sure there is no conspiracy between t-mobile and my hosting company to block me from sending emails - only from this phone.
8. There are no unusual limitations or special issues with my hosting company about sending these emails.
9. I've tried sending to myself, others, multiples etc ... no difference.
10. It happens with more than one email address/domain.
Thanks for all the help! Sincerely. Thanks. I really need to solve this.

not sure if this helps, but i too cannot send via smtp, but one thing i found out is the email account ( as i found out) i setup (which was my ISP's ..Cox Communications) blocks smtp transmissions sent via proxy (which is what you go through via edge or gprs,...not sure about wi-fi though).

pudgedaddy said:
not sure if this helps, but i too cannot send via smtp, but one thing i found out is the email account ( as i found out) i setup (which was my ISP's ..Cox Communications) blocks smtp transmissions sent via proxy (which is what you go through via edge or gprs,...not sure about wi-fi though).
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I had tmobile level-3 tech support (aka as their obi-wans) conferenced in with my hosting company (godaddy) - and tmobile specifically asked about the proxy issues. Nope. Nice suggestion
PLEASE note everyone - MY issue is not merely "I can't get my emails to send" ... as if I am trying to figure out the proper settings or trying to get email sending to work for the first time
Emails USED to send until I upgraded to WM 6.1 ... for 2 years
If my settings were wrong, if there were some incompatibility between the network and my smtp server then my emails would NEVER have sent.
As it is ... they send sometimes (when I set up the email client with a new account).

wow im not sure about that one then, sorry

D-ville Solja said:
wow im not sure about that one then, sorry
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A lot of the senior members here (including yourself) seem to know what they are talking about and are quite helpful - despite many others answering without bothering to read the question. So thanks
I honestly and at a brick wall here. The only thing that seems to make sense is some sort of concept that involves my smtp settings being corrupted (upon saving or sending) ...
And I mean corrupted - since they work consistently for a few hours and then stop.
Other than that, I haven't a clue - neither do tmobile nor my hosting (and for once I feel sorry for them - since the time they put in trying to troubleshoot far exceeds any profit they might make from me).

i dont know if this will work or not but its a suggestion since I also own a domain with Godaddy. Sometimes even my SMTP fails though I am using WM6 and not WM6.1 so this is what i have done.
Goto www.mobisync.com and setup ur account with them. They support upto 5 accounts. Then configure ur settings according to the site.
There are 2 advantages for this. 1 is that you get push email in real time and when u send email its using mobisync servers and not the godaddy SMTP.
Also it totally free.
i am using this with no problems till now. I suggest you try it and its very easy to setup mobisync on ur cell phone...will probably take 30sec or less.
Hope this helps...cheers mate..!!

Hi - thanks for chiming in ...
actually I am not looking for "alternatives" - I am looking to solve the problem with the email client. If I need to send emails I can indeed send from my PC, or even webmail from my phone or just about anywhere else.
Sure, I can use some sort of network based email, IMAP or Microsoft exchange or whatever.
RIght now I want to solve the issue at hand. It's sort of like my trying to get about microsoft word on my PC working again, and getting suggests to type my letters in a text editor or other client. I *know* other ways exists - but this way is the one I prefer and it should be working. Clearly there is a problem and I'd like to solve it.
If no one else is experiencing this issue (in this forum), then I'll have to consider something specific with my setup/network etc .. but then again 6.1 has not been out long enough to make that assumption yet.
I appreciate the ideas and help - keep them coming - eventually we'll hit upon something.
atit.sh said:
i dont know if this will work or not but its a suggestion since I also own a domain with Godaddy. Sometimes even my SMTP fails though I am using WM6 and not WM6.1 so this is what i have done.
Goto www.mobisync.com and setup ur account with them. They support upto 5 accounts. Then configure ur settings according to the site.
There are 2 advantages for this. 1 is that you get push email in real time and when u send email its using mobisync servers and not the godaddy SMTP.
Also it totally free.
i am using this with no problems till now. I suggest you try it and its very easy to setup mobisync on ur cell phone...will probably take 30sec or less.
Hope this helps...cheers mate..!!
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Since you can initially send, your setting must be at least basically correct. It sounds more like the SMTP session is not being closed correctly, since deleting and recreating (which would be effectively a close) works. I would guess WM6.1 thinks the connection is still active but the server has closed it. You really need a trace of the SMTP session.
As a work around/test you need is another completely different SMTP server you can authenticate with. I suggest your home ISP. They should have one you can authenticate with for use when travelling. Try it with that. If it works there is a compatibility issue between the Godaddy SMTP server and WM6.1 so you will need a trace for us to figure out what is going on. If it doesn't work there as well, well we still need that trace.

Darn, your suggested sounded promising - and I did indeed spend about 2 hours chasing it. I tried smtp from my cable op - who is my broadband isp ... no luck - same problem. Then I got on the phone with t-mobile, using their smtp settings. Same issue.
We're all stumped.
Not sure how to do a trace of the smtp session from my device.
Again - this worked for 2 years (until WM 6.1) - at which point sending worked for a few hours then not. The only way it works again is if I create a new account with the same settings.
jamssx said:
Since you can initially send, your setting must be at least basically correct. It sounds more like the SMTP session is not being closed correctly, since deleting and recreating (which would be effectively a close) works. I would guess WM6.1 thinks the connection is still active but the server has closed it. You really need a trace of the SMTP session.
As a work around/test you need is another completely different SMTP server you can authenticate with. I suggest your home ISP. They should have one you can authenticate with for use when travelling. Try it with that. If it works there is a compatibility issue between the Godaddy SMTP server and WM6.1 so you will need a trace for us to figure out what is going on. If it doesn't work there as well, well we still need that trace.
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It's OFFICIAL- WM 6.1 is the problem !
Damn. Damn.
OK - after yet ANOTHER 4 hour marathon session with Tmobile tier 3 support - in trying everything ... SMTP email still does not send reliably
(again - starting with WM 6.1, emails simple do not send - no timeout no port errors, bounceback, security issues). The only way it sends is if I create a NEW account with the identical settings. Then it will work for several hours 2-4 ... then emails go back to not-sending.
Finally after a total of over 30 hours of testing in the last 8 days (yeah, I've got a full time job too, and had been traveling!) ... I had to go to a tmobile store and side by side test with a WM 6.0 dash. Same everything - settings etc. 6.0 works. 6.1 not.
And where would I officially report this?
Even more of a tragedy since I absolutely loved everything else in 6.1
PLEASE PLEASE (whoever does these things) - please post a fix or rom update!
Please!
Thanks

cornell2 said:
And where would I officially report this?
PLEASE PLEASE (whoever does these things) - please post a fix or rom update!
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I would recommend waiting for an official release from T-Mobile or HTC before filing any bug reports.
"Hi, I downloaded a hacked beta rom from some website and it doesn't work right" doesn't usually get them moving fast.

Well, I sort of meant reporting this to whomever ported. I honestly don't know the logistics here of what ROM I have or how it came about. the point of confusion (on this point) is that the announcement and link for the 6.1 release actually appeared on a T-Mobile affiliated blog or site (forget which) - giving the perhaps mistaken impression that this was some sort of official release for the Dash - only that T-mobile was not yet supporting it. I definitely claim ignorance here.
My comment about reporting the bug - was more about letting the person/team who "ported" WM 6.1 to the Dash know about this issue. I am sure they would want to know (especially if this issue was specific to the port). Just because I posted a thread on this issue does not mean that the right people know about it yet - which is why I mentioned it.
Thanks

smtp problem with wm 6.1
is there a solution to this problem yet? I have the same problem since upgrading to 6.1. I've noticed that it appears to be related to smtp authentication. It seems to work ok on an earthlink account i have, which does not require smtp authentication.

No solution yet. Problem still persists (though intermittent). Seems to be related to 6.1 not resetting or saving a security certificate or something. But I am no expert. All I know is I can no longer rely on my Dash for SMTP email since upgrading to 6.1

i'm having the exact same issue
i have my phone setup for imap with gmail and i can receive perfectly fine, but it wont send
i delete the account and recreated it and it worked but after a few hours stop sending again
any fix?

Gmail & ActiveSync Problems

Hello, I have a little question, Do you also have problemes using activesync and gmail ?
for me it work 1 time and then nothing more ...

mrassol said:
Hello, I have a little question, Do you also have problemes using activesync and gmail ?
for me it work 1 time and then nothing more ...
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Yes I have push gmail by using acrivesync and it worked for me about the last 3 weeks but today it says:
A network or server error is currently preventing your device from synchronizing with your exchange server. If this condition persists, please contact your system administrator.
Support code: 0x85010005
Last synchronized: Today 06:44am

I have almost the same problem ... before I change my phone, it worked fin on my iphone, and on my diamond for test, but now, nothing since 3 days ...

After a few tests, If I uncheck mail the synchro works fine, it should be a problem on google side ... ****

It was working earlier this morning....phew...I thought it was just me having the issue.
Hopefully Gmail will fix the issue.

I deleted my sync and re-established. no longer getting error.
try it out....see if that works for you.

I did it almost 10 times, got 2 or 3 mails, and then nothing else ...

it is fine now, i was getting no email updates previously, but now works fine

I don't, currently, sync my mail. But I do have other problems syncing with Gmail, for contacts and appointments.
1) It never actually synchronizes the first time I press sync (i have mine set to manual) I have to press it a second time for the data to actually sync.
2) Even if I make NO changes to any contact it always has a list of 20+ contacts it is updating (what is it updating??)
3) I stopped using HTC Favorites tab because all contacts in this list get screwed up everytime I sync with google, mainly loosing their photos and rearrangin how I have names displayed (reverts only these few back to standard last name first)
4) DO NOT, I repeat DO NOT use Tmo My Faves if you plan on using google sync. If you do every time you sync through google Tmo will go through and change your my faves contacts back to how they feel they should be displayed, including getting rid of custom ringtones for that contact and their photo. And you will get a txt message for every change tmo did.
5) Evey couple of weeks it tells me a change on the server requires every contact, and or appointment, to be erased and re-synced! Terrifying the first time it happens, not knowing if you are gonna loose anything.
These are almost too much trouble to keep using google sync... and yet I persist with it, hoping these stupid bugs will be worked out.
I have since dropped my faves, since I have the good customer unlimited plan. And have stopped using the HTC favorites tab. Even so, I still get problems with some of the contacts that used to be favorites.

WIll try again to use push ...

It seems like Google is still working some stuff out. I had the same issue and another as well.
Apparently the HTC favorites thing stores some data in proprietary places in your contacts and so that causes problems.
Also, for me unticking "Tasks" for syncing has solved the problem before.

Gmail Emails are not instant, I switched to Live because of this!

gmail help???

Hi All, new here...I have a HTC TP2 with Winmo 6.5 installed. Here's my situation, a couple days ago I used to received emails from my gmail account, now all of a sudden I can just send and not recieved any emails from gmail. My yahoo and hotmail accounts are running fine. Anyone have any ideas why my gmail is not receiving??? I spoke to one of the TMobile reps and it seems all they can do is HARD RESET the device. Any help? thanks in advance

I use Seven for my push e-mail, google, yahoo, exchange all work flawlessly. Have you made any changes to your device around the time it stopped working?

no i haven't changed anything on my phone which is kinda weird, I really don't want to hard reset the phone since restoring things is taking a toll on me. I would like for it to be a last resort but on the other hand I might just end up doing it since Im flirting with the idea of flashing to one of the custom roms here in xda. any ideas?

just my two cents... yesterday I discovered that all of a sudden my Gmail account had disappeared from the account selector (leaving only Outlook), I could still see the emails but couldn't reach account settings or nothing
Somehow it returned, but with most settings in blank.. imap and smtp server, SSL options, all were in blank.. no idea why or how this happened, but filled all blanks up again and now Gmail's working fine...

Trouble w/ Gmail after WinMo 6.5 Sprint upgrade
Just upgraded my Sprint TP2 to WinMo 6.5 today. Why this update took so long to come to Sprint customers is beyond me, but overall, I'm pretty pleased with the update, save one problem that has made me "strategically relocate" my phone with sudden velocity...twice.
I've been trying to set up Gmail since this evening, with zero success. I had my Gmail account set up on the device before the upgrade/update, but now...
I've tried every known method to enter the settings, but whenever the device tries to connect to the Google servers, it tells me I need to check my user name & password, even though I've entered both correctly.
I've even logged into my Gmail account on my laptop, changed the password just to make sure I've entered the correct one, & the device still kicks back to the user name/password screen saying the settings are wrong...I KNOW THAT THEY'RE NOT!!!
I've seen several posts from users experiencing trouble with Gmail on 6.5, but these have all seemed to stem from Wi-Fi vs. other types of connections.
I've also installed Google Sync & my Gmail has DL'd to my device, but I prefer to get my e-mail through the normal account setup.
Sorry so lengthy & thanks in advance for any advice anyone may be able to provide.

not sure if it is googles problem or our phones but i spoke to a couple of people with iphones and gmail accounts and it seems that they arent having any problems receiving their gmails. Did windows take a dump sometime this week?

TexasDiesel said:
I've tried every known method to enter the settings, but whenever the device tries to connect to the Google servers, it tells me I need to check my user name & password, even though I've entered both correctly.
I've even logged into my Gmail account on my laptop, changed the password just to make sure I've entered the correct one, & the device still kicks back to the user name/password screen saying the settings are wrong...I KNOW THAT THEY'RE NOT!!!
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Not sure if this will help, but... when username is requested, you have to type the complete idem, i.e., [email protected]er ... some time ago I had same problem as yours and solved it after realizing that I was including my username alone, without the @myserviceprovider.com part

sirgal said:
Not sure if this will help, but... when username is requested, you have to type the complete idem, i.e., [email protected]er ... some time ago I had same problem as yours and solved it after realizing that I was including my username alone, without the @myserviceprovider.com part
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Thanx, sirgal. Actually, I had tried both ways - one with just the username and one with my entire e-mail address, both to no avail.
However, I say "had tried" because, lo & behold, today just as I'm about to contact HTC tech support to see if 6.5 was causing Gmail probs, I decided to try creating the account ONE MORE TIME. Murphy's Law prevailed and, for reasons unbeknownst to me...IT WORKED.
I did everything the exact same way as I tried yesterday, but this time success. I'm taking a strictly "don't ask, don't tell" approach as to why it worked today.
Thanks again for the suggestion!

I'm having a similar problem hopefully someone can help with. I've setup my gmail account and had it working fine until without any cause I can determine, the accout disappears except for still showing up on the TouchFlo e-mail "tab." When this first happened, I started from scratch and setup "Gmail2" which also worked for a while. The reason I had to name it Gmail2 is that when I tried to use Gmail as I had originally done it tells me that this name is already in use. It just did this to me again and sure enough, I had to name the account Gmail3 this time around. I don't understand why they are "disappearing" nor why the name is still in use and the previous 2 versions still show up on the TouchFlo e-mail tab and nowhere else.
Odd question, or at least I think it is as this is the closest thread to the actual problem I'm having that I've found here or the HTC forums. Thank you in advance for any assistance.

partsmanNV said:
I'm having a similar problem hopefully someone can help with. I've setup my gmail account and had it working fine until without any cause I can determine, the accout disappears except for still showing up on the TouchFlo e-mail "tab." When this first happened, I started from scratch and setup "Gmail2" which also worked for a while. The reason I had to name it Gmail2 is that when I tried to use Gmail as I had originally done it tells me that this name is already in use. It just did this to me again and sure enough, I had to name the account Gmail3 this time around. I don't understand why they are "disappearing" nor why the name is still in use and the previous 2 versions still show up on the TouchFlo e-mail tab and nowhere else.
Odd question, or at least I think it is as this is the closest thread to the actual problem I'm having that I've found here or the HTC forums. Thank you in advance for any assistance.
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I have the exact same happened to me multiple times in the past. The only solution I found is to restore from a previous backup. Fortunately I backup at least once per week so it wasn't too disastrous but still annoying.

Unfortunately, I haven't ever done a backup (honestly never thought of it for a phone) so that isn't going to help. What I'm hoping for is if someone else has seen this and how to delete the ghost accounts. Thank you wearefree for the help.