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Black Dymond or LVSW Cingular Edition

I've been using Black (and currently 3.01) but am looking at moving on. Who can give me advise on the pros and cons between Dymond and the LVSW?

If you're concerned about stability, I'd go with vp3G's version of the LVSW ROM. It's the one I keep going back to, and it has the Cingular customization already done. It's excellent work. In my testing I've found Dymond to be fairly unstable.

That is probably my biggest concern, and the reason I left the factory ROM. I'm kind of leaning the LVSW way but want to make sure I'm not passing up something good with Black Dymond. I"m starting to get tired repeatedly setting up my device with all my programs after I move to a new ROM.

mcvosi said:
If you're concerned about stability, I'd go with vp3G's version of the LVSW ROM. It's the one I keep going back to, and it has the Cingular customization already done. It's excellent work. In my testing I've found Dymond to be fairly unstable.
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please state what testing u did to justify your claims the dymond is unstable.

Good question Jasjamming. I have to say I am impressed with the number of user using your ROM, and the quality of the threads relating to your work. Can you gave me some advice, please, on what I would gain using your Black Dymond? Thanks...

drewriddle said:
Good question Jasjamming. I have to say I am impressed with the number of user using your ROM, and the quality of the threads relating to your work. Can you gave me some advice, please, on what I would gain using your Black Dymond? Thanks...
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speed, stability and the latest RTM Rom (not a MS dogfood rom) available. please see the threads over at 4wm for your self.
Black Dymond has been beta, RC1 and RC2 tested by a user group. Any issues experienced will be isolated based on 3rd party applications. Try it and see for yourself.
If someone posts negative feedback by all means please state what went wrong etc over at 4wm so notes can be taken.

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...clip...In my testing I've found Dymond to be fairly unstable.
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I am also interested to hear what kind of 'testing' you did.
Dymond is Actually Rock-Solid.

A quick point about "dogfood" since its been spun up with a somewhat bad connotation here.
M$ employees run the latest and greatest software from the development groups. They call it "eating their own dogfood". Its a term of endearment on the M$ campus. Every major M$ developer/presenter I spoke with at MEDC this year was running "dogfood" on their device. Generally, "dogfood" is a few point releases in advance of what gets sent to the masses.
Good or bad, buggy or not. You folks decide.
I'm happy to run "dogfood" on my TyTN. Nobody else has it. Case in point: check the Kaiser thread.

mcvosi said:
If you're concerned about stability, I'd go with vp3G's version of the LVSW ROM. It's the one I keep going back to, and it has the Cingular customization already done. It's excellent work. In my testing I've found Dymond to be fairly unstable.
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Could not agree more! vp3G's LVSW Re-Cooked version is the "Best Rom by far" very fast and very stable...

Black Dymond is the best Rom.....

I am using black 3.5 since yesterday and so far it has treated me well. I don't see any stability issues.
I have installed some spb programs like weather and some games and the ROM rocks.
I have been on black 2.5 before and that was stable as well. However dymond is noticeably much faster.
I have not tried any other ROMS besides these 2 so I cannot say which one I would favor over the other. I like black and sticking with for now.

I recently flashed the vp3G ROM after using Black 2.5 for about a month. Black 2.5 treated me very well, however I am happier with the vp3G (LSVW derivative). It is much faster and more polished than the Black 2.5 I was using(because it is newer, I suppose). I have been very excted about the 3.xx versions of Black but have yet to try them until I read through all the threads to see if it is a fit for me (3.0/3.1 didn't seem to be the right move). For now, vp3G/LSVW is an excellent ROM for me.
I'm running SPB Diary, MS VC 1.6, VOIP, IM+, SKTools, DinarSoft HandySwitcher, MOBITV, SettingSavior .94, and a bunch of other stuff. No problems AT ALL to report. Program Memory stays solid, device never freezes, and battery lasts the longest.
Hope this helps...

Black Dymond with C-Start : experiencing sync problem
Using Balck Dymond for 12h. Looks quite stable, not to mention the style. Thanks JJ
All functions work well (haven't tested 3G - China not deploying it yet ).
Most impressive is the performance of WiFi (compared to Black 3.01 and WM Hermes QS Edition) - power settings shoul be on "Best Performance", otherwise do not connects even putting the device next to BS
Found some conflict betwen C-Start and embodied input - haven't explored the issue yet.
Issue with synchronization: When the ROM was "virging" no problem synchronizing. Suspect installing C-Start, after the system runs for some time, there is some software conflict. Have followed all ActiveSync 4.5 troubleshooting advice, but looks like the issue is in the device. Next few days will try to install different Chinese characters software - hope it will work!
-- The same issue had with Black 3.1 + C-Start; the difference is that with Black 3.01 was able to etsablish connection between the PPC and the PC, was able to "browse" the PPC but no sync; with Dymond no connection at all
Hope will figure out some way arround with the Chinese characters

Sleuth255 said:
Good or bad, buggy or not. You folks decide.
I'm happy to run "dogfood" on my TyTN. Nobody else has it.
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Heh... I think some folks are wishing this "dogfood" came from Menu Foods rather than M$.
Not to mention anyone who's been in IT for any length of time knows a "shipping" version doesn't necessarily equate to a "good" version (can we all say Windows ME?). C'mon, I know y'all didn't just fall off the turnip truck.

I think vp3g rom is by far the best. I ve been playing with this rom since it 1st came out and i must say its Very stable, very BIG storage, very responsive, and the tie in of the cingular settings with this rom adds close to a perfect rom! My only gripe with lsvw rom base is "esmertec java" Opera mini sucks with it! But otherwise a great rom!

jasjamming said:
please state what testing u did to justify your claims the dymond is unstable.
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I already posted it on your site.
Out of the box, within 30 mins of use, your ROM was freezing up on me several times. I use no 3rd party applications, aside from Pimp My Black (which may have been the problem). I did not see the quirkiness in other ROMs that I saw in Dymond. I've reviewed many ROMs, including your original Black 2.x and 3.x series, and did not have the same polished experience I see in LVSW's base. I think your 2.5 ROM was the best to date in terms of reliability.

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Could not agree more! vp3G's LVSW Re-Cooked version is the "Best Rom by far" very fast and very stable...
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It's given me no hassles at all, aside from the WLAN problem when using WPA2 pre-shared key, which seems to be a problem in a few recent ROMs (Faria's being the exception here). It has the Cingular customization already done, and includes what I need and not what I don't need. I also like the inclusion of a working X-button. No additional CABs to install.

mcvosi said:
I already posted it on your site.
Out of the box, within 30 mins of use, your ROM was freezing up on me several times. I use no 3rd party applications, aside from Pimp My Black (which may have been the problem). I did not see the quirkiness in other ROMs that I saw in Dymond. I've reviewed many ROMs, including your original Black 2.x and 3.x series, and did not have the same polished experience I see in LVSW's base. I think your 2.5 ROM was the best to date in terms of reliability.
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Well then,
Maybe you should have choose the word "Tried" rather saying something like 'in my "Testing" I found it to unstable.'
You tried it, you didn't actually do any 'testing.'
I was involved in the 'beta' and RC1, and still using it loaded full of apps, and there is NO instability at all.

cant say much about the others but...
I am running Dymond and no stability issues what s ever were detected unless:
You add on HTC X (doesn't matter what version - both Sucks) use alternatives like handyswitcher or others.
This is the ROM I had the longest uptime before SR!
I am running Pushmail (more than 200 email per day) with sms activity fairly high as well as phone calls that could probably fry my ... and still stability is not an issue.
only issue i am wondering about these days is what Radio Version is the best to work with...

I have actually found the same issues with every WM6 rom I have tried to date. I have loaded all of Kyphurs, a couple of LVSW's and Black 2.01 onwards.
I think everyone here knows that actual problems stem from third party apps and/or personal set up and the roms get blamed for the problems.
I also think we all know that a lot of people fall into the two main camps and will argue their rom is better than the other one.
I am on Dymond and havn't had a soft reset for the two days its been on my device - which for a cooked rom I reckon is pretty damn good - but I reckon from what I have read LVSW's latest is probably ok too...
You pays your money and you takes your choice --- oh except you dont pay any money - ITS FREE!

Do all WM6 ROM's drop available storage memory?

I'm asking because, I've used a couple and they all seem to drop after a while of use, requiring you to soft reset eventually. Didn't notice this problem in WM5. My wifes MDA has 25Megs of available program memory at any given moment, and she never resets her device or uses hybernate or clears cache mem unless I do it (and yes, she uses quite a few programs daily). My device starts out at 25Megs and then slowly drops down to about 20, then after a couple more days, down to about 17Megs (that's the lowest I've gotten before I reset). And when it drops this low, I use Clear Tem to clean the cache and other temp folders. And I use Hybernate and I still can't get the memory back up to 20Megs. So is this just WM6 or could it be the ROM I'm using?
I'm currently running Meschle's O2 Premium ROM (which is great BTW). This ROM is much better on memory than some previous ROMs I've used but it does drop down like I mentioned above. Didn't bother me until the other day when I was trying to get some pics of some friends for my picture caller ID. The camera would not open because memory was too low. I had to soft reset. It was quite embarrasing. May have just been a fluke but just wondering. Anyone else notice this?
BTW I do not have the TF Cube installed and only the default contacts manager.
Other programs installed besides what's in the O2 Premium ROM:
Opera Mobile
iSilo (document reader)
Oxford Spanish Dictionary
Conjegator prog
TomTom Nav 6
Used HTC Home page editor to change appearance and icons on home page but I removed the program after changes made

Hmm, haven't noticed this fenomenon.. gues i never had same rom for more that 3 days..

kakainis said:
Hmm, haven't noticed this fenomenon.. gues i never had same rom for more that 3 days..
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I'm thinking it has something to do with HTC Home. I know what you mean about being a ROM junkie. However, I'm trying to find one and perfect it. Currently, Meshle's ROM is the closest I've come.

shawndh said:
I'm thinking it has something to do with HTC Home. I know what you mean about being a ROM junkie. However, I'm trying to find one and perfect it. Currently, Meshle's ROM is the closest I've come.
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I have faced this in most of the ROM's I have flashed...be it B&B or Meschle's or Fracoons or even NikMel's....
I think its something inherrent in WM6....I can say that as I used it in NikMel's and that does'nt have HTC Home and the same problem was there too...
It is typically this issue that makes be jump from one ROM to another - but they all end up the same - no matter how fast you make it by removing items or cleaning the ROM....guess you have to live with it...

devdarshan said:
I have faced this in most of the ROM's I have flashed...be it B&B or Meschle's or Fracoons or even NikMel's....
I think its something inherrent in WM6....I can say that as I used it in NikMel's and that does'nt have HTC Home and the same problem was there too...
It is typically this issue that makes be jump from one ROM to another - but they all end up the same - no matter how fast you make it by removing items or cleaning the ROM....guess you have to live with it...
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OK. I know I'm not alone then.

Not, You aren't alone.
I have tried with all ROM posted here and have the same problem. I have made an own ROM based on original WWE and the same thing.
On WM5 this don't happens. It's not the HTC Home plugin, as my own rom is a clean ROM without anyting, and the memory goes down with the pass of the days. My friend with another Artemis P3300 have the same problems.
At the end, soft reset.

natxocc said:
Not, You aren't alone.
I have tried with all ROM posted here and have the same problem. I have made an own ROM based on original WWE and the same thing.
On WM5 this don't happens. It's not the HTC Home plugin, as my own rom is a clean ROM without anyting, and the memory goes down with the pass of the days. My friend with another Artemis P3300 have the same problems.
At the end, soft reset.
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Same here!
A daily soft reset restores the initial amount of "program memory". I think it's a WM6 issue too (memory leak somewhere?).
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On WM5 this did happen
Hi,
natxocc said:
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On WM5 this don't happens. It's not the HTC Home plugin, as my own rom is a clean ROM without anyting, and the memory goes down with the pass of the days. My friend with another Artemis P3300 have the same problems.
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On WM5 this did happen for some people (including me) and after months, this issue was finally solved.
http://www.europe.htc.com/support/faq.html?id=545&device=htcp3300
I have just upgraded my ROM to WM6 vanilla 2 hours ago and I am a bit worry about this as I do not want to experience the issue in WM6 again. For now, it has not happened.
Is this thread related to this WM5 issue ?
If this is related, is this possible to have the WM5 fix ported to WM6 ?
Cheers

dxs1 said:
Hi,
On WM5 this did happen for some people (including me) and after months, this issue was finally solved.
http://www.europe.htc.com/support/faq.html?id=545&device=htcp3300
I have just upgraded my ROM to WM6 vanilla 2 hours ago and I am a bit worry about this as I do not want to experience the issue in WM6 again. For now, it has not happened.
Is this thread related to this WM5 issue ?
If this is related, is this possible to have the WM5 fix ported to WM6 ?
Cheers
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I have been using Meschle's Vanilla for last one week - no issues so far - even the leak is there but not that extensive...I start of with 26.75MB upon softreset and after d aday of using most of the apps incl. calls, tomtom, activesync - I have never really gone down below 20MB - but I do make it a point to use the Oxios closeApp and Hibernate as often as I can...
I reset once in maybe 3-4 days that too if I feel there is a drag...battery life is superb...no complaints whatsoever...
Have no reason to switch ROM's anymore untill I see something that really fancies me...or a RADIO/OS or build upgrade...

"SCC" (Superstorage Crash Club)

If you experiment Unexpected Freeze in splash screen, and only a hard reset (sometime not) will fix the problem, and you are using a SuperStorage ROM:
Welcome to the: "SCC" (Superstorage Crash Club)
For more information: here, or here, or here, or you can post your personal experience.
At the moment, the club have 3 member... Those who want to join as?

I ended up making myself a Big Storage ROM instead of SS. Havent had any major problems out of the Big Storage yet either.

I have problems too.. SuperStorage ROMs are not stable at all.. too many problems with those..
The thing is.. if you want a lot of storage space, go buy Kaiser..

Shamanix said:
I have problems too.. SuperStorage ROMs are not stable at all.. too many problems with those..
The thing is.. if you want a lot of storage space, go buy Kaiser..
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Or a Micro SD card would work fine for *most* people
But agreed... kaizer is the way to go if you need more ROM Storage

I tried SuperStorage, andit was great. After a few days though, some of my program icons changed to blank icons and stopped working. A soft reset later, and the phone freezes at startup. This happened with a cooked and a Pandora ROM. Tired a non-SuperStorage Pandora ROM and it's Extended ROM was unstable - it kept losing everything I saved in it for no reason. Installed vp3g's WM6 ROM, then another Pandora and my Extended ROM has been stable since.
While I applaud the expert who managed to come up with SuperStorage, I think it's just that one step too far for our phones at the moment. Shame.

I tried one Superstorage and it was very unstable. But the chefs cooking them deserve credit for trying to develope...they will keep fine tuning them.

I have been using t-lite for a long time. no crashes, no problems. didn't freeze even once. but there are some memory leak problems.

ok, let's join the group also. in such a manner i don't feel alone.

happen to my buddys phone too.. SUCKS!

Ive used a handful of big storage and super storage ROMs (around 5) and have only experienced memory leaks, no crashes. But the leaks are enough to keep me away

edhaas's super d-lite
Do a search for Super d-lite. Not only is it a super-storage rom, it is the most stable rom of any type that I know about.
It seems from some of the posts I have read that the superstorage roms that are going bad are based on the new 3.62. T-lite, as burkay posted is solid and based on T-mobile's 3.60, and Super D-lite is a hybrid between that and the one before (3.54?).
Perhaps you guys are barking up the wrong tree.

larsuck said:
Do a search for Super d-lite. Not only is it a super-storage rom, it is the most stable rom of any type that I know about.
It seems from some of the posts I have read that the superstorage roms that are going bad are based on the new 3.62. T-lite, as burkay posted is solid and based on T-mobile's 3.60, and Super D-lite is a hybrid between that and the one before (3.54?).
Perhaps you guys are barking up the wrong tree.
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Tried also edhaas super d-lite and it had as well the same freezing issues as all
other superstorage roms I tried before. This is obviously not a kind
of issue in the ROMs themselves, but maybe a problem of several
devices floating around having flash memory cell problems (or
something like that). As you know I have created an own superstorage
rom and have same problems with freezing after some time of using
whilst many other people use exactly THIS rom for weeks now and
say it is awesome stable and have no problems at all. Myself ended up
in creating a big storage rom and use it stable since install. I though
use the extended rom space (unlocked) but with muuuuuuch care and
I feel not very comfortable with install programs in the extended rom
area.
With mtty.exe I discovered some bad blocks and maybe this is the key.
They can be recovered and show good now, but I am not sure if they
stay green now. There's some hints around how to recover. I posted
in one of the Shamanix threads (task 2a and so on). Maybe one could
point to the post and all affected people could run the test and post the
results.
Olioaglio
BTW: Great idea with the club, diezoo !! Maybe with the help of some others
the cause of the problem will be digged.

i've been running edhaas' super d'lite for a month now with zero issues.

venelar said:
i've been running edhaas' super d'lite for a month now with zero issues.
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As I said before... I am pretty sure edhaas' and also my own
superstorage rom is absolutely OK out of the box.
IMO the issues are the devices on which they are flashed.
Olioaglio

stuck in splash screen with pandora naked 6 version, but didnt stuck with pandora naked 5 nonbigstorage version..

Fastest most stable rom?

Hi guys, I'll be using a Hermes for a few months until my contract comes up for renewal but having had an iphone and an HTC Advantage for the last year or so I've been a bit spoilt in the memory/mhz department and now using the Hermes is like pulling teeth.
I didn't play with the standard rom long enough to know if I liked it, just dived straight in here, trying out some XDA-dev Roms. I've now tried manilla2D V8 and starbase's touchflo2d and although they look fantastic they seem painfully slow and riddled with bugs. This is not an attack on the authors of those roms, as I said they look fantastic and are hugely functional. I just need one ALOT quicker and without the bugs.
Any recommendations?

regarding your question
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Hi guys, I'll be using a Hermes for a few months until my contract comes up for renewal but having had an iphone and an HTC Advantage for the last year or so I've been a bit spoilt in the memory/mhz department and now using the Hermes is like pulling teeth.
I didn't play with the standard rom long enough to know if I liked it, just dived straight in here, trying out some XDA-dev Roms. I've now tried manilla2D V8 and starbase's touchflo2d and although they look fantastic they seem painfully slow and riddled with bugs. This is not an attack on the authors of those roms, as I said they look fantastic and are hugely functional. I just need one ALOT quicker and without the bugs.
Any recommendations?
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Their are limitations as you are aware with the hermes so any rom running hermes rom running touchflo2d will leave you with at or around 20megs of ram. all of the chefs have put out great roms so my suggestion would be to try ones with tf2d cooked in. performance and bugs are non existent in most of them or easily fixable. Good luck.

If you want a fast ROM, don't flash one with manilla or touchflow. They will bog you down. Try one of the lite ROMs out there from Joshkosh or Abusalza's PDA ROMs.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=417233
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=437029
I am using Joshkosh's halloween V10 and it is quick.

Thanks guys, now trying pdacornerpro v25 and so far so good.

Dont forget to try Schap's 4.40 Beta!

U must try all of DVH's!!!
(here we go again)

DannyBoy said:
Thanks guys, now trying pdacornerpro v25 and so far so good.
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good choice bro.... congratz..

Best rom...
I was using crc's rom's clean design lots of usablity but i constantly had sync problems so tried Dvha79_ddt Rom's and they are all very good i am using V22 5.2.20748 Black basic NoBS and its is excelent.

I'm also using DVH v22 NoBS for months now (usually I flash around every other week) and it seems to be very fast and stable. If you're content with WM standard today screen (no fancy home plugins) I'd suggest go w/ it to conserve resources.

I tend to find most roms strt to get buggy the more 3rd party apps installed. It seems to need experimentation to get it just right but every ROM is different and will, eventually, go down if you're adventurous and keep putting more and more 3rd party apps on.
Cheers...

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I was using crc's rom's clean design lots of usablity but i constantly had sync problems so tried Dvha79_ddt Rom's and they are all very good i am using V22 5.2.20748 Black basic NoBS and its is excelent.
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I'm also using this rom but I have a problem: when I press the side Power Button to turn off the device ( in stand by), any other press of another hardware button opens up the device, and this didn't happened previously (in wm6 rom). For example, even though the device is turned off by short pressing the power button, if I accidentally press the IE button, or the camera button, the device wakes up and opens these apps. What's the solution, any registry tweak to do?

Settings>Key Lock

so, what's the verdict?
I'm new to Hermes (still using Excalibur most of the time). With so many roms and so many suggestions, have you narrowed down to THE fastest and most stable rom yet, Dannyboy? thanks!

Well after trying 3 or 4 different roms before I started this thread and a couple after it I finally settled on PDAViet DVH_V27. It was without doubt the fastest and most bug free but did lack any frills at all. I added HTC home and my usual list of cab files without any problems or slow down.
However..... as usual after a few weeks I now find myself itching for something new so I'm now on here searching for a new one to try

How much free RAM left
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... I finally settled on PDAViet DVH_V27. It was without doubt the fastest and most bug free but did lack any frills at all. I added HTC home and my usual list of cab files without any problems or slow down.
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Thank you for the info! Do you know how much free memory you usually have? I am thinking about running TomTom navigation software, but wonder if I will have enough RAM to do that. Thanks, again!

Faria 32 - winner
This ROM wins (hands down for me). I have tried at least 6 ROMs recently and really wanted one of the manilla 2D roms to be good enough to stay the distance. I just didn't find them stable enough. PhamQuang attemp is oh so close.
I finally got round to flashing Faria32 - No frills looks wise - but a great clean ROM that hasn't yet thrown up anything significant. For now I'm sticking with this.
Still waiting for the next best touchflow batch.

Fastest Rom!!!
TNT 5.2.19199 build 19199.1.0.0
SK tools 211 score!!!!!

here we go again, each one of us uses our hermes differently, there is no such a thing as 'the fastest', 'the best' bla bla bla rom.
You need to try each one and load the software you want and see if it is fast. For me I have found that ROM.

I agree with Zocster. Everyone's different and everyone uses their device differently. I personally (for everyday use at least, I love testing other ROMS) have settled on CRC's latest stable ROMS.
I use a mac w/ missing sync and haven't had any sync problems. I also have an xp box I use as a tech machine and though I don't really depend on it for syncing, I've tried it a few times and not had any problems.
Anyways, other than benching them all in the exact same conditions, it's pretty much impossible to pin down which is THE fastest, which is THE most stable.
The cooks and testers already dedicate countless hours/days attempting this with just one ROM and even that is often too time consuming and sometimes overwhelming. I don't think any of us really has the time to even try a task so daunting, besides, HW and network conditions vary so greatly that who knows how useful it would even be.
As mentioned, general rules apply, the less frills, the lite/naked/NON-BS ROMS are generally the fastest and most stable. As far as your personal preferences go, you've just gotta rely on other people's recommendations and your own experience testing and trying until you find one that works for you.
There have been plenty of good recommendations already, and as I said, I find CRC's latest stable ROMS to do the job for me, but I am always looking and trying new ones that look good.
So, if you really can't find one that works for you, either take up kareem4nba up on his offer and ask him to build one for you, or do some reading, research, download a kitchen, and start cooking.
But, as I said, generally fast and stable are more synonymous with the lite, naked, and non-BS, 'function before form,' "clean" ROMS.
But I digress and agree with zocster, there is no such thing as "the best," "the fastest," or "the most stable" ROM, there are so many uncontrollable variables and is judged based on so many subjective factors that there aren't and really can't be any "true" answer to this question for the ages.
This all doesn't even factor in the fact that there are constantly new ROMs, new cooks, new programs, new advances, the scene is always changing. So, even if you could pin down the "best ROM right now, but who knows what'll happen tomorrow or next week.
All in all, it's an impossible question to answer. All you can do is to use the process of elimination based on other people's opinions and your own experience. Sorry. Good luck. Happy flashing!

I actually don't mind seeing one of the threads pop up every now again...
Anyway it's all been said though I would add that Speed and Stability are not always mutual inclusive.
I find:
KareemNBA's and JoshKoss's to be the fastest.
PDACornerv25/ DVH Good Speed/Stability
Crc's Most Stable

[Q] I am new to flashing ROM, but my phone isn't.

I am new to flashing new ROM, but my phone is not. I have a friend who has flashed the ROM a few times on my phone. The phone operates but there is functionality that I would like to see that maybe a new ROM would be better for me. Right now I don't know that I could tell you what ROM I have. I would also like to know if my phone has HardSPL. I guess to start, I would like to know how to figure out what ROM I have so that I can ask more questions and get some better help.

Take off the battery cover. Holding the volume-down button, use the stylus to push (the release) the soft reset button. Keep holding the volume down until the 3-color screen shows up. This is called the bootloader. If your phone is already HardSPL'ed, the second line of text on the 3-color screen should have the word "Olinex" at the end of it.
If your phone has had custom ROMs flashed before, it will still be HardSPL'ed, unless your friend purposely re-locked the SPL. In other words, the SPL remains unlocked unless you specifically lock it again.
To get out of the bootloader, just hit the soft reset button again.

Ok, so it does have HardSPL. Where do I find what ROM I am running. The rest of the lines read:
RHOD300 32M SS-BC
SPL-0.85.OliNex
MicroP(LED) 0x0A
MicroP(KEY) 0x04
TURBO HW/Turbo SW
TP MFG DATA
509,521 796,836
803,215 210,213
215,840 Calibrated

haus en heimer said:
Where do I find what ROM I am running.
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When you actually powerup the phone, there should be 4 rows of red letters/number at the bottom left corner of the screen. Sometimes, the chef will put the name (or part of the name) of the ROM in the last row, but not always.
Also, you can look at the ROM version under Start>Settings>System>Device Information>Software Information. Again, I'm not sure if the name of custom ROMs is always displayed here.

What kind of functions are you looking for in a ROM?

ROM version - WWE 28.Aug.2010
Basically this ROM is what I am looking for but there are too many issues with it. I use my phone primarily for business so I usually do not need a lot of the frill features. I want to be able to have full functionality of the following items (no glitches): email, text messaging, call recording, contacts, internet sharing, and wifi router (for tethering to my laptop).
Right now I have the following issues: I will send a text, but the recipients do not get it (it is not the carrier). This does not happen all the time. sometimes my phone tells me that the message did not send, and I can try again. Sometimes it just never gets sent. When I get off a phone call there is a screen that pops up that says would you like to save this contact. when I click either "create new contact" or "add to existing", nothings happens. There are times also that the phone is just very slow...usually doing something simple like trying to open a browser page or text message. I usually have to reboot my phone every other day to fix this. When this is happening there is no programs running in my task manager. My final complaint is that the internet browser is VERY slow. My girlfriend has an iphone 3G with the same service that I have sitting right next to me and her internet is easily 5x faster than mine. Mine is almost unbearable.
I do not think I have any issues with email. My phone recorder works just fine.

What country, carrier?
I've never had that issue adding a caller as a contact, so I'm not familiar with that. And the only time I've had a problem with a text going through is when the reception is poor.
A custom ROM can possibly get you much better speed and stability over the stock ROM. But its not clear to me whether you are on stock or a custom ROM.
What browser are you using?

USA, ATT
I am running some version of energy rom, not stock. I just do not know which version.
I use opera browser.

Is there a splash screen that says Energy when you power up the phone? Every recent Energy ROM has had this (for as long as I've been using them, since May 2010).
Also, for Energy ROM, it usually says Energy in the bottom line of red letter/numbers in the lower left corner of the screen when you startup the phone.

It does, but it goes pretty quickly it is hard to get all the numbers. Energy is on that splash screen.

Windows Mobile is laggy by nature; and there is also a known, frequent memory leak problem with WM which slows down the phone until you power off/on the phone. WM is an old platform, and its no wonder that Microsoft is completely re-vamping the OS from the ground up, for Windows Phone 7. Periodically restarting the phone, or using CleanRAM (just use the XDA search function to find it) can help alleviate the memory leak issue somewhat. Its tough to say from your description whether the lag you are experiencing is typical WM behavior, or something else is going on.
I use Opera 9.7 as well for my browser. The actual download speed seems comparable to my wife's iPhone 3GS in unscientific testing. But the rendering speed when you scroll or zoom is much worse in Opera than on the iPhone. If that is what you are experiencing, there is not much that can be done. You can try Opera 10, which some people like better than 9.7. But it doesn't have a scalable zoom (only 2 zoom levels).
I used various builds of Energy for a long time, but I never had the issue with the caller contact, or texts. Overall, many users been pleased with the speed/stability of the Energy ROM. NRG does a good job on his ROMs, considering its Windows Mobile. You can try to flash other ROMs, which are a little more "lightweight" or better at managing the memory. But the improvements might not be quite what you are looking for. Its possible you have a bad flash, and re-flashing may fix your bugs. But I don't think you are going to see a huge improvement otherwise.
On the other hand, you have little to lose in flashing a new ROM (and it actually pretty fun, once you learn the basic steps). NRG is constantly tweaking his ROMs to squeeze a little more performance out of WM. Or you can try other more lightweight ROMs. People seem to like Jacko's and Valkyrie for cleaner ROMs. I'm trying out Simplicity right now, myself.
Overclocking the phone's CPU is another option for squeezing a bit more performance out of it. Look on the Themes and Apps subforum for the overclocking tools.

I'm going to take a shot in the dark and guess that the last time you flashed the ROM was around the end of August or beginning of September, right? More than likely, you're using an August 28th version of the Energy ROM. Don't worry, I'm not psychic. There was a bug in that version only that prevented saving to contacts after a call. It has never surfaced again since then.
You could simply flash a newer version of the ROM from the thread or try a different ROM altogether as redpoint suggests. Head over to the Energy ROM thread and pick a new one. Since you've already got the Hard SPL done, grab the task29 tool and stock ROM, and you're in business.
Install the stock ROM, then run task29, then flash the new ROM. All done. Make sure to back up your files before doing anything as this will erase all of your data.

How do I re-flash or install a new ROM, now knowing what you know about my phone? I am a noob, if you did not know that already!

haus en heimer said:
How do I re-flash or install a new ROM, now knowing what you know about my phone? I am a noob, if you did not know that already!
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Look one post up. I just told you. You need to first install the stock ROM. It's a simple exe file that runs from your PC.
After that, run the task29 program. It's two files. Leave the .nbh file alone. All you have to do is run the CustomRUU.exe file and follow the prompts. This will erase every bit of data on the device. When the progress bar gets to 100%, hold the volume down button to return to the bootloader screen.
You then need to run the Rhodium_SoftwareUpgrade.exe that is included with the ROM you want to flash. The download is normally two files just like the task29. Leave the .nbh file alone again.
If you have any questions about these programs direct them to the appropriate thread for that topic. It's time to jump in. You have a lot of reading to do. No more holding your hand here, so to speak.

redpoint73 said:
Windows Mobile is laggy by nature; and there is also a known, frequent memory leak problem with WM which slows down the phone until you power off/on the phone. WM is an old platform, and its no wonder that Microsoft is completely re-vamping the OS from the ground up, for Windows Phone 7. Periodically restarting the phone, or using CleanRAM (just use the XDA search function to find it) can help alleviate the memory leak issue somewhat. Its tough to say from your description whether the lag you are experiencing is typical WM behavior, or something else is going on.
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Definitely not true.

Jackos said:
Definitely not true.
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If that is not true, what causes my problem? Which ROM do you prefer, that does not act like that?

Jackos said:
Definitely not true.
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You know more than I, so I differ to you, of course.
But care to elaborate? My understanding is that WM has a big memory leak issue out of the box. I know its something you've addressed on your ROMs. But the issue is there to start.

haus en heimer said:
If that is not true, what causes my problem? Which ROM do you prefer, that does not act like that?
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Well, Jacko is going to recommend to you his own ROMs, of course!

redpoint73 said:
Well, Jacko is going to recommend to you his own ROMs, of course!
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Looks like you don't know me at all. I recommend simplicity (used to recommend LBFAR too, but it's discontinued).
Yeah, you understand that WM has a memory leakage out of the box. That's what the famous chef said. Nothing more wrong then that. Did you ever tried a clean WM rom? Without any additional soft by other developers. It doesn't leak memory at all! I used to work on my old ASUS A639 for weeks without softreset.
The problem is that a lot of "skilled" chefs have no idea how to care about memory leaks and they claim it to be a issue they cannot fix. Bull****. I'll never agree with this.
A issue that I addressed in my roms? Nope, it's something I'm preventing from happening.

Jackos said:
Looks like you don't know me at all. I recommend simplicity (used to recommend LBFAR too, but it's discontinued).
Yeah, you understand that WM has a memory leakage out of the box. That's what the famous chef said. Nothing more wrong then that. Did you ever tried a clean WM rom? Without any additional soft by other developers. It doesn't leak memory at all! I used to work on my old ASUS A639 for weeks without softreset.
The problem is that a lot of "skilled" chefs have no idea how to care about memory leaks and they claim it to be a issue they cannot fix. Bull****. I'll never agree with this.
A issue that I addressed in my roms? Nope, it's something I'm preventing from happening.
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I have to agree with Jackos here. I've been playing with my own personal ROM for months now and I've never ever had memory leak issues. It's related to some of the "tweaks" that other chef put into their ROMs. Jackos ROM, in my opinion, is one of a few that don't "leak" memory all over the place. I normally use Energy ROM because it is flashy, however it does use more memory than any other one right out of the box.
Memory leaks are a product of the chef, not the build.