Hi all
From some research i've been doing i think i need to create a ROM image but i'll tell you my problem and let you recomend me a solution.
Basically i need to setup 30 PDA's (XDA Argon's running WM5.0) These PDA's will be running a program called service director and also have TOMTOM installed. What i need to be able to do is be able to create an "image" that i can just copy to each PDA to speed up deployment. It would also be useful should there be any problems in the field with the PDA's that they could just be hard reset back to their modified state after deployment. E.g with Service Director and TomTom installed. I have found out that if i create a folder on a memory card with a directory name of 2577 and put my .cabs in there that they will automatically be installed on insertion of the card. This could also be beneficial to me, but i don't think that it would be robust enough, especially if they drop the device and put their memory card back in after its popped out.
So what do you think my best options would be?
Thanks for any help in advance and if you need any info, just let me know.
Thanks
Andy
kingpin83 said:
Hi all
From some research i've been doing i think i need to create a ROM image but i'll tell you my problem and let you recomend me a solution.
Basically i need to setup 30 PDA's (XDA Argon's running WM5.0) These PDA's will be running a program called service director and also have TOMTOM installed. What i need to be able to do is be able to create an "image" that i can just copy to each PDA to speed up deployment. It would also be useful should there be any problems in the field with the PDA's that they could just be hard reset back to their modified state after deployment. E.g with Service Director and TomTom installed. I have found out that if i create a folder on a memory card with a directory name of 2577 and put my .cabs in there that they will automatically be installed on insertion of the card. This could also be beneficial to me, but i don't think that it would be robust enough, especially if they drop the device and put their memory card back in after its popped out.
So what do you think my best options would be?
Thanks for any help in advance and if you need any info, just let me know.
Thanks
Andy
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do the 2577 option but create an autorun program that installs the cab files and then deletes the 2577 folder, thus it wont re-install when the cab is re-inserted
That's ok, but then the engineer would then have to send the card back to us so that we could set it up again. E.g the card would only allow them to set the software back up once and then they would have to send the PDA back to us for us to reconfigure it should it go wrong again. We can't really afford to do this as they need the PDA to find their next job/update jobs etc and can't really afford to have it sent back to us everytime it goes wrong.
well there is currently no way flashing custom ROM's to the xda argon (HTC Panda?) and wont be until one or more devs get thier hands on one so burining it into the rom isnt an option. the only thing I can think of is to have it ask if you want to install the software when it is inserted rather than doing it automatically.
I didnt think it wouldve been available yet. Oh well, looks like i'll have to make it do it via the memory card for the moment. Like all brilliant companies mine just told me, here's what we want, now go and make it happen! Haha!
I take it the card will need to have some kind of .inf file on it to ask you whether you want to install it or not. I would try it, but my company havent even given me the PDA to play with yet.
All i have is an SPV M500(My own old phone) and knowing my luck, they won't work the same with the software we're using.
In that case, why dont you have the autorun RENAME the folder instead of delete it. Your users should then be able to rename it back in case of need (they should be able to do that!), and do the insert sd card thing.
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That's ok, but then the engineer would then have to send the card back to us so that we could set it up again. E.g the card would only allow them to set the software back up once and then they would have to send the PDA back to us for us to reconfigure it should it go wrong again. We can't really afford to do this as they need the PDA to find their next job/update jobs etc and can't really afford to have it sent back to us everytime it goes wrong.
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Why not on original installation have it delete the file from the folder and also have in the same folder a IE web shortcut to the original file on a Company server that would allow them to download the file again into the same folder, assuming they would have an internet connection and the file is not too large to download and you can direct the download to that particular folder?
They could then take out the card and re-insert it to automatically install the program again.
Maybe a poopoo idea, but I guess worth a thought?
Good luck
C
the autorun folder is the same for all devices with wm5/6 so thats fine and you would haev to write a progra to do it, not an inf.
if you cant do it yourself im sure someone else on the forum wouldnt mind for a modest donation (myself included)
kingpin83 said:
Basically i need to setup 30 PDA's.
What i need to be able to do is be able to create an "image" that i can just copy to each PDA to speed up deployment.
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A software called SPB Clone was specifically designed to meet this need:
http://www.spbsoftwarehouse.com/products/clone/?en
Regards
Related
Is anyone using the ROM version 4.01.12 on a T-Mobile XDA I in USA?
How has it worked out?
I want to cook a ROM from Stefan's great kitchen, using this ROM. The last one I cooked used ROM 4.01.16 (Official T-Mobilee version) but this ROM is really buggy.
define "buggy", cuase I want to cook a rom, and am not sure if I want 4.01.16 or not. Thanks.
1. With the phone turned on but PDA powered off, the PDA powers itself on every few minutes.
2. SD cards occasionally shows no files using Total Commander. When I pop the SD card into my PC's card reader, files are there?
There are a few other bugs that I can't put my finger on at the moment. If I could solve #1, the rest wouldn't bother me.
I should say that the ROM kitchens are great.
the PDA powers itself on every few minutes.
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I have the same problem and it really pisses me off. My battery is always dead because it just randomly turns on. I set my XDA to turn off after 1 minute of inactivity....this helped a little.
I'm also looking to see if 4.01.12 works on T-Mobile in the USA. I really want 4.01.12 for the wmodem application. I asked Stefan, I'll let you know what he says(unless he posts here first).
Only one thing I liked: The ROM made my XDA super fast. When I view web pages with lots of graphics, it moves smoothly now. I'm not exactly sure why this is, but it's deffinately faster.
The 4.01.12 should work without any problem in the US.
Just don´t touch the radio Stack.
Easiest is cooking your own rom.
Best way is cooking without any Autoconfig, because it includes only Conifig for european providers...
Stefan
Thanks for your help, I'll download it now and test it out.
I can verify that the 4.01.12 works great on T-Mobile USA!
I'm typing this from my cell phones connection. I finally got wmodem to work after 2 weeks. Thanks for all your help Stefan.
Thanks Iron & Stefan.
I'm going to cook myself a ROM using 4.01.12 in Stefan's great kitchen.
Iron, has this ROM fixed the random turn on problem?
Have you noticed any drawbacks or problems?
Joe
So far I havn't noticed any random turn ons or any problems. Seems to be a good rom! 8)
I can't load this ROM. Everytime I try to flash using the exe file I cooked, I get the following error message:
ERROR 011: EXECUTE REMOTE COMMUNICATION PROGRAM ERROR
Cannot execute the remote communicatin program. Please make sure the the USB/Serial cable is properly connected.
Any idea how to work around this so I can load this ROM?
I got the same error. It must be a problem with 4.01.16 or something. You need to flash it to a SD card. Ask me if you need help flashing.
Iron
Can I just copy the flashed exe file to an SD card, then use
bootloader on my XDA to execute the ROM file?
No, you can't. Just use XDAtools to make the required bootable SD. No, it doesn't matter what size, as long as it's 32mb+, and I feel as though I should tell you that you will loose all data off the card when you use the tools to put the image on. There is a certain format, and a header string, and bootloader compatability, and yada, yada, yada... XDATools OSImage takes care of all that.
I just hosed my MDA I with a 4.1.16 ROM by installing KSE truefax into the image. Had to use SD method to reload the same ROM recooked without KSE, and it works beautifuly!!!!! This [email protected] vibrate is the only thing really pissing me off right now, but I haven't found any known probs, except broken pins/burnt motors. We'll see when I take it apart to strip/paing the case.....Sorry, getting off thread subj.
Good Luck!
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Iron
Can I just copy the flashed exe file to an SD card, then use
bootloader on my XDA to execute the ROM file?
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I think your asking this so you don't need to download it again. As he already said the answer is no, but you do not need to download it again.
Download OS Image tool as he said, and there will be an English Folder. Extract the .exe that you downloaded and there will also be an English folder. Copy the .NK(I think its .NK) file from the ROM English folder to the OS Image tool English folder. Right click on the file and click Burn to SD card, and you will be set to go.
Before swapping my XDAIIi with my new EXEC I made a back-up on my SD CARD. BUT THE EXEC CANOT RESTORE FROM THIS LOCATION!!!..... Is there anyway of recovering my data????? thank you anyone out there with more knowledge and expertise who could help.........
Find another device running the same ROM version as your old device and restore your data to that device. The extraxt what you need and active sync. The transfer all data to the new device.
Thanks.....It was exactly what I thought. But I have tried this on 4 different machines.....and they all crashed or froze and it just didnt happen........
Is there any other possible way!? :?
When you say you made a backup on your SD card, I'm guessing you mean a backup of the entire XDAIIi system (including all your files, all program files and all ROM files).
If so, you can't restore a backup from an XDAIIi onto an XDA Exec. They're two completely different machines and the backup will be incompatible.
Like badgerboybadger says, you need to extract from your backup only those files that contain your personal data: your documents, templates, ringtones and so on. Leave behind anything connected with the device or installed programs. Then you can copy your personal data onto your Exec and it will work. If you want to transfer installed programs from the IIi to the Exec then you'll need to reinstall them on the Exec...
....silicon,
Yes Indeed, I did make a full system backup!
and you are talking about something i was not aware it is possible to do???
lets see......
you say......"you need to extract from your backup only those files that contain your personal data: your documents, templates, ringtones and so on. Leave behind anything connected with the device or installed programs. Then you can copy your personal data onto your Exec and it will work"......
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How can I even access the inside of the CompactFlashBackUpNew backup file ......???
Is that what you are suggesting ...if I understand you right???
Thanks.... :idea:
Wangu77 said:
How can I even access the inside of the CompactFlashBackUpNew backup file ......???
Is that what you are suggesting ...if I understand you right???
Thanks.... :idea:
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Yeah - I guess that was what I was suggesting, but I've got no idea how to do this! Sorry.
I wasn't sure which way you'd have done your back up or whether it's possible to extract particular files. I suppose it must be, but I've never done it.
If you still have your XDAIIi then can you copy specific files off it?
Alternatively, do you still have a synchronised documents folder on the PC to which you used to connect it? That should have most of the documents that you'll want to keep.
If not I don't know what to suggest.
Providing your old PDA is still available, you really need a backup program that you can run on both PDAs. For example, something like Sunnysoft's Backup Manager - even a time-limited trial edition may be sufficient. Select and back up the required files/data to SD-card on the old PDA, then move the card to the new PDA. Install the backup program there and recover the files/data with that.
Just be careful of the different program versions, try not to copy system files across, and be prepared to do it a couple of times (or more) until you get it right.
ok, i have read through the forums for a while and have not seen this posted anywhere.
I had the t-mobile dash rom on my phone for about 2 months and really wanted more memory.
the stock rom had about 9,000kb of memory when the phone would operate.
after i did what im going to explain it had about 18,000kb of memory.
this goes for anyone that may not want to install the HTC rom on their phone.
go to windows\startup\
create a folder named backup.
now move files: help, voice command, hotspot into the backup folder (i cant remember the exact names but you will see them)
that should do it.
i like the HTC ROM so far it is working fine for me.
i do have to test it more than 2 days though to actually make judgement.
another great thing about it is that so far i have reboot close to ten times to test the reboot cycle caused by the memory card and there is no reboot, atleast so far.
Just remove the file extension under startup for my5msgcenter to stop my faves from loading and disable voice command through the voice command application. I also deleted the homescreen registry setting for myfaves (to use my own homescreen). On boot I have 22,000kb+ free. DO NOT DELETE THE WIFIINIT FILE EXTENSION OR WIFI WILL NOT WORK. Afterwards startup should have only two files wifiinit.lnk and my5msgcenter. (no file extension). To re-enable my faves just add the .lnk extension back.
works great for me...
Great tip!
Very very usefull for who have T-mobile or T-mobile ROM.
rydr1 said:
ok, i have read through the forums for a while and have not seen this posted anywhere.
I had the t-mobile dash rom on my phone for about 2 months and really wanted more memory.
the stock rom had about 9,000kb of memory when the phone would operate.
after i did what im going to explain it had about 18,000kb of memory.
this goes for anyone that may not want to install the HTC rom on their phone.
go to windows\startup\
create a folder named backup.
now move files: help, voice command, hotspot into the backup folder (i cant remember the exact names but you will see them)
that should do it.
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This doesn't seem to work on WinMo 6 (I'm assuming you have 5). Suggestions?
I am with T-Mobile WM6 ROM, and this tip works just fine for me.
T-mobile ROMs are slowest, but this tip give speed.
You also can use http://www.oxios.com/memory/
This tool optimize memory and make windows faster.
Like every other win restarting time to time is not a bad idea .
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This doesn't seem to work on WinMo 6 (I'm assuming you have 5). Suggestions?
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im using wm6.
i belive i forgot to mention to use active sync to create the folders and move the files.
total commander may be able to do it through the phone.
Unfortunately, whether I move the files on the phone or using AS, it doesn't free up any memory for me. I'm very short on memory because I'm using Good Messaging to synch my work email (works like RIM). Can't NOT use Good, and it's a memory hog AND must run from onboard memory instead of SD card, so I never have any mem.
Oh well.
The subject here is the RAM memory - more RAM is more speed for your HTC .
Oxios works fine!
Lotie, try Oxio... worked fine with my S621
BR
I use the Hibernate option in the free SmartToolkit, great.
When I sync my dash up to my computer, I can not find the Windows folder. Can anyone help me get to this please?
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When I sync my dash up to my computer, I can not find the Windows folder. Can anyone help me get to this please?
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check this
I have tried to find some things on how to, tutorials and so on but i cant find anything that has given me success, some of my must have apps are installed from the computer, and id want to see if i can just make them into a cab instead and just have them on the memory card for comfort and when flashing on the go from sd it is annoying not being able to have the "must have" app.
any help would be deeply appreciated and i would be most grateful.
if this is done in ten sec to a minute i added one of the desktop installers if some one would be so very kind to help me
http://www.e-sword.net/pocketpc/files/ppc2005setup301.exe
Thank you very much.
ps: another noob question, the program named ppc2005setup301 it runs in vga, and since most rom are qvga if i understand it right the program buttons are shrinked? it is usable but you got to be exakt with the stylys to hit them, kinda hard on the bus or subway if anyone could help me with that one id kiss ya!
Peace and a lot of love to you all!
Can you not just extract the cab using win rar?
Easiest way is to run the installer with your phone disconnected. Then go into the microsoft active sync folder in program files and you should be able to find the cab in a folder in there. I've done this several times to set up a back up folder on my sd card (just in case)
I’m having problems getting programs onto my htc wing. I’ve got a 4gig sd card in it and not many things on the card. For some reason it wont install some programs unless I can get the cab and drag that directly onto the phone. Anyone know why this may be? And also is there a way to extract the cab from a program with out having to go through the windows installation process?
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I’m having problems getting programs onto my htc wing. I’ve got a 4gig sd card in it and not many things on the card. For some reason it wont install some programs unless I can get the cab and drag that directly onto the phone. Anyone know why this may be? And also is there a way to extract the cab from a program with out having to go through the windows installation process?
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I don't know of any reason why you can't run some cabs from the SD card...maybe check in the Wing section of the forums to see if there's some device-specific factors at play..?
As for getting the cab out of a PC-based install, sometimes if you look in the install data folders, you'll find the cab buried there somewhere and can just take it out yourself. However, I don't know if there's a way to do it when the PC install is nothing but an .exe file
problem with install
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I don't know of any reason why you can't run some cabs from the SD card...maybe check in the Wing section of the forums to see if there's some device-specific factors at play..?
As for getting the cab out of a PC-based install, sometimes if you look in the install data folders, you'll find the cab buried there somewhere and can just take it out yourself. However, I don't know if there's a way to do it when the PC install is nothing but an .exe file
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Thanks i'll look into that