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Windows Mobile "XDA Live" Edition

I'm liking Windows Mobile "XDA Live"
as the name in honor of all XDA-Dev has done for us.​
I'll be keeping this post updated with progress/news.
Understand that I can not release this Rom without the approval of my source, they need to protect their livelihood. The second I'm given the go ahead, the floodgate with open but until then I simply can't unless I want to burn a good source who put a lot of trust in me.
My primary goal is to get an uncluttered Rom that is useful from the start, think Faria-lite..
If everyone is good and doesn't keep me from getting this done, I will release the scripts that I am using to build & rebuild this rom easily so that each of you can confidently do exactly as I am. I can release the scripts maybe this weekend regardless of the status of the Rom because they are independent of the Rom you are cooking.
Quick FAQ:
Q: Can we get a "Clean" version of the Rom.
A: When released there will be several packages:
"Clean OS" Rom with only HTC-X and Comm Button Toggle Vibrate Fix integrated.
"Hit the Ground Running" Rom with several useful apps embedded (you will be able to disable everything that is embedded) and operator Customizations within easy reach.
Hermes Rom Cookbook, which will include the scripts and tools I am using to do this and instructions on how to apply these to any Hermes Rom.
.nb file only releases for those who want to only swap out the OS ('cause we like our splash screens)
Q: Will WMXL (Windows Mobile XDA Live) fix my corrupted radio bootloader or otherwise bricked Hermes?
A: If the other tools here can't do it then don't bet the farm on WMXL doing it. The Flashing tools are still the same, no magic pill here.
Q: Can you Add XXXX or why not use ZZZZ instead of the App you chose.
A: I have been selective of the apps I am embedding. They may not always be the best at what they do but they are easy to use and small. I will not install 5 different apps with the same function. By having one or two apps you will use embedded you will save plenty of Program Memory to be able to comfortably install the Task Manager, MP3 player or Coffee Temp Monitor of your liking.
Q: Kyphur you are such a Guru, how can I be like you?
A: Remember that my head is in the clouds on this one only because I'm standing on the shoulders' of giants. This project owes it's very existence to many other contributers here and they deserve as much if not more of the cudos than I do. The is a team effort, please support everyone who made this possible. (See my post here). I have been a member her for only 15 months give or take but I have spent more time reading than doing or posting.
Q: If you embed a program into the Rom how can I remove it (to save memory).
A: You can't remove file that are in the Rom. You can remove the Shortcuts to the programs. Again I will repeat that programs in the Rom do not consume any memory. If you don't want the program simply ignore it and it will not harm you.
Q: I have more questions...
A: Read the thread.
Current Status:
I have removed the list ofToday (.tsk) Themes for this Rom. Click here for Images of all the Themes I have collected. I've decided that instead of embedding them all, I will remove all but the default Crossbow Theme and maybe create a custom WMXL (Windows Mobile XDA Live) Theme.
The rest of the collection will be packaged together so everyne can pick and choose their themes. If we figure out how to create a custom Ext_Rom.nd then I will put them there along with Carrier Data & MMS Settings.
I have integrated the following Applications:
Dictionary Editor
HTweakC v2.1
MS Hearts for PPC
PHM Registry Editor ** Will not be replaced by Total Commander...
SMS Backup
StartClean
VJCandelaLite (Flashlight)
I know everyone has their own list of apps they'd like to see but I have chosed these because they are small, simple to use and ADD functionality to the Rom.
I have integrated the following Registry Fixes:
By default only the Date Plugin is enabled (and it is set to a single line).
The Today Screen says "XDA Live" and the about screen shows " - XDA" after the OS Build Number.
Pressing & Holding the Comm Button toggles the between Vibrate & Normal.
PDAViet Memory Leak Fix is Applied.
Disabled the warning for Unsigned Applications (Application Lock)
Misc:
I have added two "Classic RingTones, (OldPhone-US.wma and OldPhone-UK.wav) for those of us who want to get away from the music and chirping Ringers.
I have removed all carrier customizations, no need to soft reset to avoid customization!
Current Known Issues:
The only real issue is that I am bound by a promise to my source to not distribute this Rom until the Carrier releases it or I can get ALL IDENTIFYING INFORMATION removed from it. trust me, I am working on it but there is absolutely no room for errors. Ironically the Rom seems more stable since I've modified it than it was when I received it.
Goals to work on:
Embed TCPMP v0.71RC and Codex Files.
Dropped or moved to low priority:
Voice Command Abandoned... It was proving too troublesome and there are too many reasons (language and dialing rule differences) to not embed it.
Dropped embedding a replacement Calculator, two many personal preferences, they are all lightweight and we can each add our fav later.
As for adjusting how the memory is used, if someone knows how to do that I'm all ears but if it requires shifting things in the image and hex editing it then I think we might hit the NAND Block Issue again.
BTW, this truly is a group effort.
Without pof & team unlocking I never would have even gone looking for the base Rom.
aChef by aklok_hk is doing the heavy lifting.
Sleuth, ShogunMark, Faria ViJay555, Bepe, Maimach have all been instrumental either directly or indirectly in this project.
Des and the SSPL was another step that got me to this point.
Of course there are all of the guys who have been doing this before I bought my first PPC Phone, they blazed the trail I simply walk behind them.
Finally, I can't forget my unnamed source. They took a big change passing this along to me. Without that trust I'd be cooking AKU 3.3 right now.

piopawlu said:
Hmm, but what you need these themes for? I guess it would be cool if there was no unnecessary stuff you can always download later.
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Today themes are small, I would like to include the HTC Standard as well as Carrier Themes for at least the major carriers just as a way to allow us to brand this Rom without having to use any of our storage memory.
Initial Rom will not have any added apps, just clean & stable though I might embed The Hermes Tweaker.

This will be great. I am all for a minimal clean rom. No Addons just crossbow. HTC is fine for me. Just my opinion.
Can't wait.
Thanks

xultar said:
Give it a code name...something cool like L-Cars 8525!!!!
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mother_of_all_Hermes_roms.rar???
I think you should post with a boot screen dedicated to the legal department @ M$.
-mix

Plans to release...
First I will confirm that this IS NOT an AKU 3.3 Rom.
I have successfully removed most of the identifying info that could lead back to my source (I believe).
Now I'm adding a few things back in like the Press & Hold Comm button for Vibrate Toggle Fix, Today Themes for Carriers and my favorite Ringtone (OldPhone.wma).
I am waiting for a response from my source regarding the info I've cleaned out (I want their approval before I share as I don't want to burn my source).
I hope that this will all happen in less than 1 week.

kyphur said:
First I will confirm that this IS NOT an AKU 3.3 Rom.
I have successfully removed most of the identifying info that could lead back to my source (I believe).
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now you got me interested

kyphur said:
How about "XDA-Lives" WMx Rom!!!!
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About 10 minutes in photoshop and a few pictures from google.... a start on a boot screen.
-mix

mixmaven said:
About 10 minutes in photoshop and a few pictures from google.... a start on a boot screen.
-mix
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AHHH! But aren't we getting ahead of ourselves? I see you have WM6 on that pic. What if he's acutally ported Linux to it? Uhhh... wait a second, nevermind.

Nice, I suspect this will be a BIG relase, nice work!

now that people are cooking up some ROMs now, maybe someone can make seperate .cab files for different carriers with all the data settings in it so we can load our internet settings right away after we install cooked ROMs...

A good thing to add to the ExtROM COULD be a feature i noticed on an early iMate rom i used on my hermes. When it was going ahead with the "customisation..." screen it would ask what carrier you are on?! Then IT would apply the appropriate GPRS/MMS settings?!
May be just laziness on my part but would be a COOL feature.

mrvanx said:
A good thing to add to the ExtROM COULD be a feature i noticed on an early iMate rom i used on my hermes. When it was going ahead with the "customisation..." screen it would ask what carrier you are on?! Then IT would apply the appropriate GPRS/MMS settings?!
May be just laziness on my part but would be a COOL feature.
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I'm at work now, but from the dutch Qtek site www.qtek.nl you can download a cab file with all the settings from the dutch telecom providers.
If you can't find it I can upload it when I get home tonight.

Would be good If we could collect all the Operator cabs and maybe put them on the ftp?
Probably better than clogging up a ROM with them!?
(LOL il get to work TRYING to track down the O2 one)

Settings Files
Here's Imate and Telstra .tsk, if still needed. Thanks for your great work!
here's the dopod 838 pro .tsk
Does the new os actually close programs or still leave them open when you tap the x-button? If so, what about adding HTC_X-Button.cab?
People can always turn it off if they don't want it.
I also load the two tools below, I think just about everyone uses psshutxp and dictionary editor allows you to get rid of those annoying words you misspell and your phone remembers.... They are all pretty small, but extremely useful.
-mix
here goes the official o2 germany tsk file and the o2 germany internet-flatrate wap settings plus the o2 germany mms settings.
if you need a quicktool that can select what to install i can whip that up in c real quick
oli, i wouldnt cook the gps driver just yet.. we need to play with it on wm6.0 to see if its ok..

question besides:
is it necessary to implement vc? especially if the us version isn`t able to deal with with commands in other languages!
anyway, sounds awesome!!!

ibanyard said:
Are you installing apps via ExtRom? I'd suggest against having the apps installed as part of the base rom, some of these apps get updated on a fairly regular basis......
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As you can see, my list of imbedded apps is intentionally short:
1-Calc Lite (replaced Calculator Shortcut in Start Menu)
HTweakC v2.1
PHM Registry Editor
SMS Backup
StartClean
Microsoft Voice Command v1.6 (US)
HTweakC might see some updates but that would be easy to install the new version over and only loose would be the benefit of saving storage Rom.
By embedding these into the Rom we save several Megs of Storage RAM.
Okay, I'll also confirm this is WM6
Also, added Telsta.tsk, i-mate Grass.tsk, i-mate Swoosh.tsk.
I will not be adding other apps to this Rom. If someone wants to gather carrier Data Connections Cabfiles I would be happy to embedd them directly into the Rom (these settings seldom change).
I think I will add the 8525 eyboard Fix Cab file (but not install it) into the Rom.
Currently working on an XML error in the section of code that would place Voice Command into the Rom.
The other apps are all considered stable versions.

jammerlappen said:
question besides:
is it necessary to implement vc? especially if the us version isn`t able to deal with with commands in other languages!
anyway, sounds awesome!!!
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Once I have it in good I can easily generate a parallel Rom without it (I am writing scripts to run the tools which build the Rom so skipping sections is trivial.

CCRDude said:
I myself don't need PHM Registry Editor since I'm using Total Commander with its integrated registry editor plugin, which I find easier to navigate the registry. And I don't need yet-another-way-too-simple-calculator and would prefer a scientific one with RPN (I always hit the wrong keys on non-RPN-calculators ), like RayRPN.
But if having his preferences on the device is the price to pay for using this "very special rom"... well, as long as we're able to hide them from the start menu/programs menu, I'll gladly pay it
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You can delete the shortcuts for anthing you don't like.
Personally I use Resco for Registry & File operations but PHM is simply and requires not install so you have Registry Editing out of the box.
I'll look at RayRPN, I just hate the stupid PPC Calc (still same as the old CE Calc). I love the tip calculator and unit conversion functions of 1-calc.
Again once the integration is done, I can easily generate a 100% plain Rom with no carrier tsk files, images or settings. I figue I'll make use of the time while I wait for approval to release....

HerrVorragend said:
WOW - it's realy WM6??
When will you upload it?
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Please, if you read the thread you will see that I am waiting for my source to approve the Rom (to be sure I have removed everything that could trace it back even close to them - got to protect the source).
I am hoping to have it out in days (no more than 1 week).

kyphur said:
Please, if you read the thread you will see that I am waiting for my source to approve the Rom (to be sure I have removed everything that could trace it back even close to them - got to protect the source).
I am hoping to have it out in days (no more than 1 week).
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Hi kyphur,
I think you can consider to put in the rom the ext rom unhide!

New Naked - Pandora Naked v7.0 Beta 2 with Big Storage

Here's my Naked 7.0 Beta 2 ROM with the following:
Windows Mobile 6 Professional CE OS 5.2.1948 Build 18548.0.7.0
Camera 4.0 build 28276
Internet Sharing
10 Button Black Comm Manager
Comm Manager Vibe Toggle
PreConfig launches SetHSDPA & SetAccousticParameters.
Points to note:
PIE writes it's temporary internet files, cookies, and history to the storage card by default.
Button 5 is mapped and ready to use / PTT is disabled
Because of how I decompiled / built this rom, it has good and bad points regarding the registry. In /OEM/OEMApps and /OEM/OEMDrivers are the .rgu files. They contain ALL of the registry setting for the entire rom. This is super sweet to tweak and screw with anything you want - but makes searching a bit more. I like it.
This uses RanDomIze's Big Storage OS.nb/XIP v3.62 and is a mix from Schap's 4.31 build - but heavily stripped down. Should you desire to donate for this, please remember to include these folks as well.
It does not launch extended ROM or storage card installations, nor does it include a radio, IPL/SPL, splash screens, extended rom, or anything else. JUST THE OS.
Memory Details(no MMS):
W/Big Storage
Storage Free: 83.17
Program Free: 33.00
(Nothing installed and after reset/fully rebooted and ActiveSync killed)
I would recommend you install the .NET Framework after flashing, as I did not include 2.0 or 3.5 in the base and some programs you install / use may require it to work. See the next post for links / downloads.
Why? I wanted a super stripped and fast base to add my cabs to with a crapload of storage. I don't have the time to keep tweaking my custom rom configuration, so this will give me the most flexibility and performance.
Download Links:
Big Storage Version
ROM/Installer(RUU) Pandora Naked 7.0 Beta 2 w/ AT&T Stock Black Dialpad 8525 & Arcsoft MMS 4.2.8.1:
RapidShare Link
Phantisy Mirror
ROM/Installer(RUU) Pandora Naked 7.0 Beta 2 w/ AT&T Stock Black Dialpad 8525 NO MMS:
RapidShare Link
Phantisy Mirror
Misc Stuff:
3G Dialpad / .NET CF Framework 2.0 / 3.5 and more
3G Touch Comm Manager & Touch Dialpad (no battery icon fix)
Dialpads and Comm Managers
More Stuff:
Note that I didn't include the .rgu files. Please use the kitchen if you want to use the components / build your own.
Known Issues / Fixes:
None Known
History
7.0 Beta 1: Initial public release
7.0 Beta 2: Fixed MMS Issue / Build non-MMS version
Pandora 7.0 Beta 2 Kitchen w/Arcsoft MMS 4.2.8.1
RapidShare Link
Pandora 7.0 Beta 2 Kitchen w/o MMS
RapidShare Link
Screen Shots:

Comments on build:
I removed a bunch of entries from the initflashfiles.dat, including the help icon from startup, and the games folder (will be build on first game install). The initflashfiles.dat is really nice for customizing the shortcuts in the start menu. Also cleared out anything that will go into /Windows/Startup except critical stuff (ie poutlook.lnk and launcher.lnk, plus any unused entries from the OEM/Schaps config)
There is no compression at all - so lots of room for improvement in that regard.
Frigging amazing amount of program memory available. While working with the initial builds - I hit 33+ a few times. Damn shocking.
I kept the .htm files - even though the help icon is removed.
I also removed all but one ringtone, and fixed the registry that referenced the three default ones - without doing so even though the files are gone, the registry still says they're available to use.
Schaps and RanDomIze did a killer job on their respecitve parts. I'm gonna buy them both a beer - please do the same
I learned that the .hv files in the /SYS/Metadata are rebuilt completely from the .rgu contents in the kitchen.
After adding in the MMS files, it went down to 79 meg free, but available program memory stayed in the high 32's.
Once rom has proven to be stable, I'll strip it for a new Pandora Kitchen base.

Damn you are fast...LOL...Thanks bro

I've been using Naked 6 since it came out and it is the best/fastest out there. Can't wait to try Naked 7!!!!!!

Without a test for reference (Karhu - got a sec ) it feels damn fast.

hey matt ow are yah
mattk_r said:
Without a test for reference (Karhu - got a sec ) it feels damn fast.
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enjoyed your cooking in the hermes forums would you be cooking sometime in the near future in the kaiser forum?

leoiden said:
enjoyed your cooking in the hermes forums would you be cooking sometime in the near future in the kaiser forum?
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I'd love to, but to afford it I'd have to re-up my contract with the big A - and that's something I don't wanna do right now...

Wow, I was just about done building my own version of this same combination...after custimization, have 70MB Store free and 28MB Program free.
And while I dont presume that my rom runs anywhere near as fast as yours does, I agree in your thinking that it screams.

Downloading the kitchen now!

Hey matt,
I love your 'Today' screenshot.
That alone convinced me to download this Bad Boy!

awesome work, i was beginning to wonder if a 0.7.0 build was ever going to grace your kitchen
anyways is it possible that you could extract the entries in this registry
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Color]
since the screenies you posted are the standard wm6 teal color i might as well compare the values that the new kitchen brings to your older 6a kitchen.
for anyone who is somewhat curious they could try adding the attachment to their registry to see if the 6a black theme comes back
. just rename the ext back to reg

knightcapain said:
awesome work, i was beginning to wonder if a 0.7.0 build was ever going to grace your kitchen
anyways is it possible that you could extract the entries in this registry
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Color]
since the screenies you posted are the standard wm6 teal color i might as well compare the values that the new kitchen brings to your older 6a kitchen.
for anyone who is somewhat curious they could try adding the attachment to their registry to see if the 6a black theme comes back
. just rename the ext back to reg
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You certainly can add the color settings to force the color options on first boot - but the problems is once you change your theme it defaults back to the teal anyway.
Now that I've got this setup with the entire registry in one place, I wanted to dig for a the default settings - where the teal color values are kept. That way I can make the default any color we want - and one less thing to change after flashing

looks great!! thanks again for your great work. im running naked 6 now but will be updating to 7 today and will report back!

quick question and this maybe a little retarded. i see that you removed the startup animation dll. does this mean that i cant just place a gif file in the windows directory and enable the startup animation anymore. i have few cabs that i use for the startup animation. just checking.

also could be a dumb question but what's the diff b/w the 7.0 kitchen and the 7.0 3G kitchen?

MMS?
Hi Matt!
I don't see MMS account.. Is it only me?
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I've instaled by my own and it works.

klabton said:
Hi Matt!
I don't see MMS account.. Is it only me?
Edit.
I've instaled by my own and it works.
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You are right seems to be a small bug but else its working great

klabton said:
Hi Matt!
I don't see MMS account.. Is it only me?
Edit.
I've instaled by my own and it works.
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Nice find - I'll put that in the next build!
Regarding the difference between kitchen versions - the 3G has the video dialer and (supposed to) be mapped for TyTn keyboard layout. Both need fixed though.

mattk_r said:
Nice find - I'll put that in the next build!
Regarding the difference between kitchen versions - the 3G has the video dialer and (supposed to) be mapped for TyTn keyboard layout. Both need fixed though.
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Do you happen to have the cab for MMS? or does it need to be in the actual build of the rom? thanks ahead of time!

mattk_r said:
Nice find - I'll put that in the next build!
Regarding the difference between kitchen versions - the 3G has the video dialer and (supposed to) be mapped for TyTn keyboard layout. Both need fixed though.
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I think you can also delete the officeres.dll because you don't provide office with it. I got mms 4 working here. I just added the package from your pandora oem collection and deleted duplicates. Regards.

FCWs Rom

FCWs Rom
After all those late nights sat in front of the laptop reserching trial and error Ive finally come up with my first wm6.1 rom. It features:
Glossy black bars
Notepad
Super bright screen
Advanced configuration
Adobe reader LE
HTC Audio manager (blue/white)
Camera album
Windows live messenger
MIDlet maneger
Network wizzard
PHM reg edit
Pocket Rar
Pocket screen capture
Remote desktop
SyncroTime
Cyberon voice commander
Storage memory free: 61.62MB
Programe memory free: 28.06MB
The only problem ive had is trying to get an OEM package for the .NET framework. i habe included a cab for it along with a few other programes i like to use as optional extras untill i learn how to create working packages. these are:
HTC Action
Touch flow cube
Pocket CM 0.19b
Pandora Nice ass welcome
Pocket power maneger
Any bugs let me know.
Big thanks to all the people whove helped me get this far and to mattk_r for the rom kitchen
Enjoy!!!
http://www.sendspace.com/file/q5fkce

NETCF OEM
Here's an OEM for NETCF 3.5 for any future use mate. Save you using the .cab you used.
http://rapidshare.com/files/102979402/NETCF_3.5_OEM.zip.html
You could do with taking a few screenshots and posting them you know - say 1 of the desktop and then some which cover the programs and settings screens in the start menu. People seem more likely to try a ROM once they can see that.
All the best.

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Here's an OEM for NETCF 3.5 for any future use mate. Save you using the .cab you used.
http://rapidshare.com/files/102979402/NETCF_3.5_OEM.zip.html
You could do with taking a few screenshots and posting them you know - say 1 of the desktop and then some which cover the programs and settings screens in the start menu. People seem more likely to try a ROM once they can see that.
All the best.
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Thanks for the package link. heres some screenshots. the htc home has been added as a cab but you get the idea

On which Build version is it made FCW?
19716 or 19199 or 19202?

lagoskon said:
On which Build version is it made FCW?
19716 or 19199 or 19202?
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The build is 19199.0.7.0

nice!!!!!!!!1
downloaded and installed surprisingly quick too no problems so far

prettierwendead said:
downloaded and installed surprisingly quick too no problems so far
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If you like this then wait till i release v 1.1!!!! im testing now and its gotta be 10 times better. just give me a few days to test it a bit more. Gotta make sure its good

calling for compatibility test

I'm working getting a build together, but am a little out of touch with what's the latest and most popular cab's going around.
If you can, please post or PM me samples of what you'd like a new rom to work with. Idealy they'd be dialpads, comm managers, today screen, etc. I'll do what I can to be sure they work with the base build.
It's currently at 82.74 Storage and 30.18 Program, with just camera 4.0 installed. Testing battery usage and stability...

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I'm working getting a build together, but am a little out of touch with what's the latest and most popular cab's going around.
If you can, please post or PM me samples of what you'd like a new rom to work with. Idealy they'd be dialpads, comm managers, today screen, etc. I'll do what I can to be sure they work with the base build.
It's currently at 82.74 Storage and 30.18 Program, with just camera 4.0 installed. Testing battery usage and stability...
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And a welcome return to the kitchen sir
The file manager dutty (the old dutty) released a while back which is based on GSFinder+ is a great file explorer to use, JJ released the black ROMs for a while with it.
Gimme a sec i'll get the files zipped up.......done
I ALWAYS use it, support for zips and just runs RINGS around the stock file explorer.

Current chefs I like
Are CRCinAU and Abusalza (PDACorner)
I haven't seen any compressed or big storage ROMs that work well with activesync with exchange 2k7.
In my opinion HTC Home is a must as it has the launcher, the weather, the profile settings.
Some people don't like it because of it takes up so much realestate, but I beg to differ because of the features above.
I also would like setaccousticparam.exe to run upon install of a ROM it helps a lot with sound, PDACorner V19 and most of the DVH roms are good like this.
Split MMS, with arcsoft MMS 4.2.81 is also wanted. and of course the 1% battery DLL would be good too.
What I like is storage, stability, and looks, which I am unable to find them combined together! Oh I also like video calling and am a heavy data user.
CRCinAU is coming out with something real special, might worth talking to him. But again, his hasn't got the looks I want, I like nice icons, some sounds while clicking and colours on the task bar, come on it's a 2 year old gadget, let's spice it up a bit! What MS CE OS build are you working with?
As for files, PDACorner has a bunch of cabs that works with most builds these days including CRC's
Further thoughts on naked light roms:
I don't understand why people look for such ROM, as far as I can see your SD Lists are as long as a trip to Bombay! Might as well get them cooked in, the necessities as they are what we all use. I am happy at least with PDACorner with the different things well cooked in, speed and not compromising stability. I am only putting the heads up on the returning chef. Let's face it I am lazy, and who isn't sorting out SD config list compatibilities etc. I like nice icons I like colours on my task bar, I don't like S2U2 at times it conflicts with BT voice commander commands as far as microsoft goes.
Further thoughts again, you guys should stick to one chef, and get them to make things the way you like it and reward the damn chef accordingly. I see people jumping from chef to chef, and yet I see some chefs only make so little from what is considered as a full time job.
These are only my 2c

mattk_r said:
I'm working getting a build together, but am a little out of touch with what's the latest and most popular cab's going around.
If you can, please post or PM me samples of what you'd like a new rom to work with. Idealy they'd be dialpads, comm managers, today screen, etc. I'll do what I can to be sure they work with the base build.
It's currently at 82.74 Storage and 30.18 Program, with just camera 4.0 installed. Testing battery usage and stability...
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I like iContact, but PocketCM is ok too.
I generally install UltimateLaunch myself (via Sashimi auto-install), so I prefer a Rom that doesn't waste space with anything else. With that I use TodayAgenda, and other 3rd party apps for weather, etc.
Don't like Big Storage. Also staying away from compressed ROMs.
Do like big Program Mem.
Lately I've mostly played with ROMs from CRCinAu and PDACorner.
Stability and Speed are the most important. Since I'm not a data user, I tend towards the "Lite" ROMs, since I figure most stuff I can install myself (tho I get the impression some things run faster if cooked in? Haven't unravelled that mystery yet).
For Comm Mgr I am not too picky.. however its nice to have a ROM where either a) the CommMgr has a vibrate button or b) push-and-hold on the Comm button toggles that (yes I can install after, so not a big deal)
For dialer, the bigger the buttons, the better, and easy access to call-history and contacts list (recently there has appeared an infinitely un-useful IMO
screen when you "hide keypad" before making any call.. seems to be more a function of the ROM than the dialer tho...)
Looks are nice.. function is better.
Any task manager is welcome.

matt isn't this for a naked ROM for the kitchen that you use to do where we can install cook our own apps in? If so then theres no need to have HTC home or any other crap loaded as you can cook it yourself.
ANYWAY matt I'm glad to see you back and can't wait to try out the kitchen with new ROM..
here are some cabs..all of these work with the latest 6.1 ROM's

Don't forget Call Firewall. Personally I use Total Commander instead of File Manager, but that's personal taste. I'm not a fan of the S2(fill in the blank), and definitely not a fan of any menus with large fonts.
Would also like to have a theme where the top/bottom bars are glossy black, and just a plain black background (not the diamond background)

Thanks for the feedback and especially the files!
After I'm sure it's good and stable, I'll open the "pandora's box" and get a new kitchen setup for the masses.
Most of my old OEM Packages are outdated, so there's lots of work to do to get new ones built from around the site.

realty clean clean latest build AKU 1.3.3 (no MMS, NETCF,office, HTC Home) compressed with big storage will be very welcome
the minimum files in windows folder the better
regards
edward

edward-riko said:
realty clean clean latest build AKU 1.3.3 (no MMS, NETCF,office, HTC Home) compressed with big storage will be very welcome
the minimum files in windows folder the better
regards
edward
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Agreed..
I think some people think your actually like making a full ROM or something which is not the case. For those who don't know he makes a very clean naked ROM and releases with the kitchen and OEM packages so you can COOK your own apps in and make it the way you want.
So it might save some time and not ask for a bunch of apps cooked in..Provide some cabs and maybe there will be an OEM version of it.

mattk_r said:
...what's the latest and most popular cab's going around...
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Well here go my 2 cents
¤ NETCF35 [Definetly...!]
¤ Samsung Time [Instead of that awfull thing that takes out half of your screen space...]
¤ Network Wizard [The automated one. Dunno the release...]
¤ MS Office 6.1 [Latest version with OneNote and OneNote correction]
¤ PIM Backup V.2.8
¤ Schap's Advanced Config V.2.1.0.0 [That's a must]
¤ Call Calendar [A VERY usefull tool/add-on]
¤ MagiCall or Call Firewall
¤ TCPMP Media Player V.0.81 RC1
¤ Regedit Merlin
¤ Personalizer 2.0 [To change the displayed carrier name]
Please find below the Rapidshare link pointing to a RAR file conaining all the above mentioned applications.
¤ Kevlar-Source to XDA Developers ¤
Hope my opinion serves some purpose
Cheers.

few cabs for you

And don't forget
- Kitchen_sink.cab

zim2dive said:
And don't forget
- Kitchen_sink.cab
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LOL...doesn't sound lite or clean to me

mattk_r said:
Most of my old OEM Packages are outdated, so there's lots of work to do to get new ones built from around the site.
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Most of them might be older builds, but they still work just as fine as a newer builds except for some softwares! i really dont care about OEM packages, just release the dog gone kitchen LOL

A beautiful Diamond theme dialer is at:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=405727

Lord_BlackAdder said:
A beautiful Diamond theme dialer is at:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=405727
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Nice, does it have smart dial in it?

ai6908 said:
Nice, does it have smart dial in it?
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Yes it does. I've using it for a week now and works perfectly.

people here says right things, but few corrections. htc home, snaps tools, and .net3.5 difenetly must be included. as for me no need to include ms office and mms. maybe you need to include dutty task manager, and sort of comm manager which allow to use 10- buttion stile. and personal reqest from me - cab whith dialpad, I'm from ukraine - so english dialpads not for me. and if you provide cab I will translate it by myself.
you doing great things - wish you inspiration, and if you need some photoshop work with rom - my icq in profile, will help whith pleasure.

[KITCHENS+ROMS][WWE][09.21.2009] WM6.5 23064 - 23017 - Sorry NOT FOR P3600i! OFFLINE

Downloads in Posts 2 & 3
Hello Everyone. I'm probably going to regret this, but I'm finally going to post a few ROMs and Kitchens that I've assembled. I say assembled because I have not created anything except for some of the packages. Everything else is from other people and I've just put it together the way I wanted it. I say regret, because I will probably not be able to answer many questions as I really am barely getting this concept myself.
The main Kitchens are a mix of Chanvi/Oggi, and Tomme45i. I've taken the parts that I wanted from each and put them into one. I then added Sys/Xip of 23053, some Mega Packages, Iolite Packages, Jade Packages, some of My Own Packages, and whatever else I could get my hands on.
The First ROM will be a Super Ultra Lite WM6.5 23053. I've tried to strip it down as much as possible and still be able to run. It's as close to Vanilla MS as I could do.
Next ones will vary from 23017 light to M2D to Titanium to 23053 M2D etc... I may even try to create a specific one for SPB Mobile Shell 3 that will have SPB Shell and Weather Cooked in. Of course, it will be the Trial versions of SPBMS3 & Weather, so you will have to own SPBMS3 & Weather and have a valid serial number to use the ROM beyond the trial period. Who knows this might get people to actually purchase them when they see how nice they are.
I'm going to try to add a bunch of Packages and Cabs that people might find useful. Feel free to use them in your own Kitchens, of course!
One nice thing about this Super Lite Rom is that I noticed it connects to WMDC in Windows 7 REALLY Quickly and Easily.
As an added bonus, I'm going to post a video showing how to use the Kitchen to Cook your personal ROM preference. This will update as I get further along.
Watch Cooking and Flashing Video Here
More Coming Soon!!!! Well, as soon as I physically can.
PS: These ROMs are for the Trinity, P3600, D810 (NOT P3600i). PLEASE backup all your data before flashing any ROM from anybody. Also, keep in mind that these ROMs work well for me before I upload them, but I cannot guarantee that they will work on your phone, or that they will not cause harm to your phone. I'm guessing all will be well, but you've been warned...
Thanks to Chanvi/Oggi, Tomme45i, tnyynt, Ervius, and Many Others here.

23053 & 23064
23064 Lite NEW!!!
23.69MB Free Ram
64.18MB Free Storage
Basic MS WM6.5 cHome & Titanium with New Contact App and New Lockscreen. Faster IE8 with working Zoom Control. I may have found a new favorite... This one has some neat new features, and still leaves room for customizing. I can add SPBMS 3.5 or MotoSurf, and it still runs nicely.
Start Menu at Bottom / Fancy Top Taskbar / Plenty of Memory and Storage Avail for customizing
Download Now! Now includes AutoFlash Version!!!
Edit: Wi-Fi NOW WORKING sort of... YMMV Download "23064 AutoFlash + WiFi.exe" Version...
This is simply a Self Extracting and Executing File. If you have 7zip or WinRar, you can still Extract the contents to get to the RUU if you want.
I just added the Kitchen for those who may want to try to get the WiFi working better.
Feel free to use this Kitchen as a starting point for your own ROM by adding your own packages, tweaks, enhancements, etc.
23053 Super Ultra Lite
26.22MB Free Ram
75.12MB Free Storage
Basic MS WM6.5 Vanilla
Start Menu at Bottom / Fancy Top Taskbar / Plenty of Memory and Storage Avail for customizing / ArcSoft MMS 5.2.2.22 / No Games / No Extras / Did I mention Basic?
Download Now!
Feel free to use this Kitchen as a starting point for your own ROM by adding your own packages, tweaks, enhancements, etc. If anybody has any ideas to squeeze this more, or to free up more memory, feel free to let me know and I'll add it to the Kitchen.
23053 Super Ultra Lite w SPBMS3 and SPB Weather
23.10MB Free Ram
52.42MB Free Storage
Basic MS WM6.5 Vanilla w SPBMS3 and SPB Weather 2
Start Menu at Bottom / Fancy Top Taskbar / Plenty of Memory and Storage Avail for customizing / ArcSoft MMS 5.2.2.22 / No Games / No Extras / Did I mention Basic? / SPBMS3 / SPB Weather
Download Now!
Update! SPBMS 3.5 Trial
23053 Super Ultra Lite w SPBMS 3.5 and SPB Weather
21.45MB Free Ram
44.38MB Free Storage
Basic MS WM6.5 Vanilla w SPBMS3 and SPB Weather 2
Same OS and Setup as SPB3 / Start Menu at Bottom / Fancy Top Taskbar / Plenty of Memory and Storage Avail for customizing / ArcSoft MMS 5.2.2.22 / No Games / No Extras / Did I mention Basic? / SPBMS3 / SPB Weather - Same goes here, if you have the key, it's a free upgrade, if not, it's a trial version. This will allow you to see what it is like and you can purchase it if you want.
Download Now!

23017 & 21042 Mega M2D2v2
Check this one out!
Click Here to See this ROM in Action! Best Viewed HD and Full Screen
This is the Latest 3D Mega M2Dv2 Home Screen running on a Trinity. The base Kitchen is from Tomme45i and then it was modified a bit. Mega M2Dv2 packages are from conflipper at this post: Thanks Bud! Kitchen includes both WM6.5 and WM6.1. I cooked a WM6.1, but did not keep it. It does work though.
Now I have to admit, it's sort of like a Blonde; It's Slow, and Short on Memory, BUT, it's Really Nice to Look at, and it is a lot of fun! (Note to Blondes: "Just Kidding! I'm a HUGE fan and a blonde myself.")
Is it usable? Probably not on a daily basis, but start deleting items and see how fast you can get it to run.
The idea behind this one was to see if I could actually get it to work. I know there are bugs, and it's slow as molasas, but it's running. I spent all night trying different packages to see which ones I could get to run in this, swapping out others, etc...
3D Animated Clock Home Screen w Integrated Auto Tracking Weather Notification
Tons of Ringtones and Notification Sounds
YouTube
Google
Album - Be sure to set Favorite Album
The small Weather Notification on the Home Screen changes according to your location automatically. Uses Google Location Service.
Camera is Broken for some reason. Will look at it later, not tonight...
Download: The Kitchen is a Self Extracting File in Three Parts (Due to Server Restrictions). Download all three parts to a directory of your choice, and then Double Click the EXE file to start the Extraction.
Download Updated Version. Camera, Internet Tab, CommManager all working. Now includes Haptic Feedback when Typing or selecting Tabs. Much smaller Kitchen Download.
Download Updated Version 3. Changed Dialer to Diamond Style. Xtra Comm Manager Link Removed From Tools. Task Manager now Working but Moved to Utility. Phone Settings now Save. Added Bing Search to GPS Folder. This ROM is beginning to be a usable ROM. It's slow compared to some, but if you want a bit if eye candy, it works well. Seems to be stable.

thank you so much!

Hi Every body
Hi Supersport
Good work =>> Welcome a new cooker. ,-)
If possible light gain for memory and stockage.
1 optimize *.png for script ...
2 delete files not neccessary.
3 compress exe into ext packtage with upx.
For me =>> 23053 Super Lite.exe is corrupt ... not decompress.
Super Lite and ms3.exe =>>ok
Regard Oggi

oggi1969 said:
Hi Every body
Hi Supersport
Good work =>> Welcome a new cooker. ,-)
If possible light gain for memory and stockage.
1 optimize *.png for script ...
2 delete files not neccessary.
3 compress exe into ext packtage with upx.
For me =>> 23053 Super Lite.exe is corrupt ... not decompress.
Super Lite and ms3.exe =>>ok
Regard Oggi
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Thank you VERY much for your input. I Highly respect your opinion.
I'm re-upping the files now that are corrupt, thank you for the notice.

Oggi, I noticed something strange.
I copied over all the individual files to the Sys and Xip folders and when I go to "About", it shows 23053. But, when I go to "Device Information", it still shows 6.5.23017. Any idea what I've missed? Am I not truly converted over? Is there a file I need to modify or replace?
Thanks again to one of our Master Chefs on XDA.

check OEMVERSION package, or in other package (it relays in the kitchen)
Take a look into the provxml modifying HKLM\Software\OEM\ROMVersion key

New Release
Check out the New Mega M2D2v2 ROM and Kitchen in Post #3.

23053 Super Ultra Lite w SPBMS3 and SPB Weather
How long SPBMS3 and SPB Weather will work? (trial or...?)
Btw, I love it, it is beautiful and very finger friendly... thx

SuperSport said:
Oggi, I noticed something strange.
I copied over all the individual files to the Sys and Xip folders and when I go to "About", it shows 23053. But, when I go to "Device Information", it still shows 6.5.23017. Any idea what I've missed? Am I not truly converted over? Is there a file I need to modify or replace?
Thanks again to one of our Master Chefs on XDA.
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Hi every body
Hi supersport
1) first boot screen htc version in nk.exe if possible patch nk.exe with other kitchen ervius pkgtools 4.2b or other tools =>>not neccessary patch nk.exe
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2) \Kitchen_Trinity_EXT_OEM\OEM\Trinity\COMMON\OEMVERSION\ mxipupdate_zzPIED_100.provxml
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<wap-provisioningdoc>
<characteristic type="Registry">
<characteristic type="HKLM\Software\OEM">
<parm name="ROMVersion" value="23053" datatype="string"/>
</characteristic>
</characteristic>
</wap-provisioningdoc>
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other kitchen supersport =>> mxipupdate_zzPIED_100.provxml
value is =>>> 6.5.23017 ...
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if possible not file =>>provxml =>> empty with 1 file .DSM or with 1file .DSM and 1 file .rgu
rgu=>> type =>>into =>>
REGEDIT4
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\OEM]
"ROMVersion"="6.5.23053 (Ssport)" .............. ,-)
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if possible => OEM\OEM\Trinity\COMMON\OEMVERSION\ 123456789abcde.DSM
Not a .rgu , not a mxipupdate_zzPIED_100.provxml . ....if possible edit default.hv.
Script =>> hv to rgu or hvedit =>>change value .
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\OEM]
"ROMVersion"="xxxx"
default.rgu to default.hv with Script =>> hv to rgu or hvedit .
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for build sys ( version example 21042 or other ) dsm analyser freeware if possible change N° build packtage into sys .
Example if possible sys 21042 =>into sys packtage 21046 , 21046 ect... if possible rename N° build with dsm analyser .
If neccesary =>>NO ...
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Yes
mac_es
check OEMVERSION package, or in other package (it relays in the kitchen)
Take a look into the provxml modifying HKLM\Software\OEM\ROMVersion key
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Regard Oggi
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Thank's mac_es .

gentle gigant said:
23053 Super Ultra Lite w SPBMS3 and SPB Weather
How long SPBMS3 and SPB Weather will work? (trial or...?)
Btw, I love it, it is beautiful and very finger friendly... thx
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They are both the Trial Versions, and I believe they run for 15 Days. If you already own a serial number, or purchase one, you can enter it without having to reinstall.

Thx, may be I buy it, it look very good.

SuperSport said:
Check this one out!
Click Here to See this ROM in Action! Best Viewed HD and Full Screen
This is the Latest 3D Mega M2Dv2 Home Screen running on a Trinity. The base Kitchen is from Tomme45i and then it was modified a bit. Mega M2Dv2 packages are from conflipper at this post: Thanks Bud! Kitchen includes both WM6.5 and WM6.1. I cooked a WM6.1, but did not keep it. It does work though.
Now I have to admit, it's sort of like a Blonde; It's Slow, and Short on Memory, BUT, it's Really Nice to Look at, and it is a lot of fun! (Note to Blondes: "Just Kidding!")
Is it usable? Probably not on a daily basis, but start deleting items and see how fast you can get it to run.
The idea behind this one was to see if I could actually get it to work. I know there are bugs, and it's slow as molasas, but it's running. I spent all night trying different packages to see which ones I could get to run in this, swapping out others, etc...
3D Animated Clock Home Screen w Integrated Auto Tracking Weather Notification
Tons of Ringtones and Notification Sounds
YouTube
Google
Album - Be sure to set Favorite Album
The small Weather Notification on the Home Screen changes according to your location automatically. Uses Google Location Service.
Camera is Broken for some reason. Will look at it later, not tonight...
Download: The Kitchen is a Self Extracting File in Three Parts (Due to Server Restrictions). Download both to a directory of your choice, and then Double Click the EXE file to start the Extraction.
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On this one, in the kitchen, shall i choose EXT XIP and SYS 23017 or 21054?
And where shall it be ruu_signed??? On which folder?
Thanks

Settings missing
Hello
First of all, very nice rom and pretty fast. I've downloaded your nbh file (I don't want to cook
And I cannot find some of settings like owner info, etc
Is there a way to unhide them or do I cook my rom to get these settings ?
I've try to put my hands in the registry but without success they did'nt appear ...
Thanks for answer
Bye

ucla said:
I cannot find some of settings like owner info, etc
Is there a way to unhide them or do I cook my rom to get these settings ?
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Remove the "Redirect" value under the following keys:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\ControlPanel\Owner]
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\ControlPanel\Buttons]
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\ControlPanel\Input]

Video telephony?
Is it possible to enable it ? ... and how.
Thx, nice work

tomme45i said:
Remove the "Redirect" value under the following keys:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\ControlPanel\Owner]
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\ControlPanel\Buttons]
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\ControlPanel\Input]
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To Tomme45i with a big T..... THANKS A LOT my friend !

SuperSport said:
23053 Super Ultra Lite
26.22MB Free Ram
75.12MB Free Storage
Basic MS WM6.5 Vanilla
Start Menu at Bottom / Fancy Top Taskbar / Plenty of Memory and Storage Avail for customizing / ArcSoft MMS 5.2.2.22 / No Games / No Extras / Did I
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VERY good job to start with a clean empty ROM...
But, could you:
1) Leave the start menu at the top ? (Why on Earth not leaving the default settings if your ROM is meant to be a starting point for further personal customization ?)
2) Remove the Fancy Top Taskbar as well as ArcSoft MMS ? (Why adding 2 software that are storage-consuming (even if not much), and perhaps unwanted by end-users ? If your ROM is meant to be as empty as possible, there should really be nothing more than the OS itself - but the OS itself should have all the features available (such as HSDPA icons/feature activated, video talk and so on), of course !)
Thanks in advance.

ALoubert said:
1) Leave the start menu at the top ? (Why on Earth not leaving the default settings if your ROM is meant to be a starting point for further personal customization ?)
2) Remove the Fancy Top Taskbar as well as ArcSoft MMS ? (Why adding 2 software that are storage-consuming (even if not much), and perhaps unwanted by end-users ? If your ROM is meant to be as empty as possible, there should really be nothing more than the OS itself - but the OS itself should have all the features available (such as HSDPA icons/feature activated, video talk and so on), of course !)
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Top Taskbar and start menu in bottom screen is new User Interface up from 23017,... (correct me if i'm wrong). If you want it, please stick with 23017 build ROM.
Sorry for my bad english.
Regards.